Newbie question: Valentina 2.5.8 & Rev 2.8.1 on OS X: where's the windows vcomponents?

[M Young]

Hi Bart, Martin, and others on the List,

Bart, you make some excellent observations, but the big picture issue  
is that new Valentina developers/users keep showing up on the List  
with similar documentation related complaints. At some point, the  
Valentina documentation needs to be recognized as a *major* problem  
that needs to be fixed, no matter how the message is delivered. :)

Best Regards,

Michael

On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Mr. Bart Pietercil wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> could it be possible that I am confusing you being vocal with being  
> plain rude and agressif.
>
> Can you imaging that most of us that are helping out on the list are  
> non-native english (writers and) speakers.
> Maybe it is just a cultural thing but if this response to someone  
> that is trying to help you get started is your normal way of  
> behaving on a list that you just subscribed to I fear that most of  
> us will hesitate to respond.
>
> Thank you for reflecting on this
>
> Regards,
>
> Bart Pietercil
>
>
>
> On 20-feb-08, at 20:46, Russell Martin wrote:
>
>> --- Ruslan Zasukhin <sunshine at public.kherson.ua> wrote:
>>
>>> Its nice to see that only starting to work with Valentina for Rev,
>>> You already thinking about deployment step :-)
>>
>> The thing that got me thinking about deployment already was page 6 of
>> the "Valentina 2 for Revolution Reference" pdf that I downloaded and
>> was attempting to read. It points out where to look for VComponents  
>> and
>> how to copy them upon deployment. All I was doing was trying to read
>> and follow that based on the advice of one of the pages I landed on  
>> in
>> trying to navigate your confusing wiki.
>>
>>> Short answer is:
>>>
>>>  * you need Windows and V4REV_WIN install there to get
>>>      windows DLLs.
>>>
>>> We do this on few reasons. One of them is Valentina is not small to
>>> pack all
>>> into single package. Second, e.
>> g. Is that from Windows you in any
>>> case will
>>> not be able produce MAC working app with V4REV.
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure what you're saying there. Are you saying that it is
>> impossible to producing working crossplatform applications with
>> Valentina and Revolution unless you have both Valentina and  
>> Revolution
>> licenses on each of the platforms you want to deploy on? And, that  
>> the
>> free license you've given me will only allow me to deploy on one
>> platform? If your intention in handing out free licenses was to
>> increase sales, you won't win me as a customer by giving me something
>> that I can't use crossplatform.
>>
>>> -------
>>>> Also, when & where will I need the serial number that I was sent?
>>>
>>> It looks you did not read this simple tutorials:
>>
>> You're right. I never got there by following the advice in the email
>> that I was sent. I'm sorry to tell you this but, your wiki suffers  
>> from
>> a lack of focus, sprawl, and circular linkage. I got lost in the maze
>> and ended up at a page that said to download some pdfs (one about the
>> kernel and the other reference mentioned above.)
>>
>> Again, I know you're trying to increase sales with this promotion and
>> you're probably sick of questions from noobs like me. However,  
>> right at
>> the moment, I'm thinking more about how to remove Valentina from my
>> system than how to continue to learn about it. Sincerely, I hate to
>> tell you this, but, your website with its lack of focus, circular
>> linkage, and poorly written documentation make learning about your
>> product begin to feel more trouble than it is worth. Maybe you should
>> consider getting a talented technical writer to clean things up a  
>> bit.
>> I'm sure your sales would increase if getting started with your  
>> product
>> wasn't so daunting.
>>
>> Oh, and when you do a give away promotion, especially when you're
>> giving away the previous version of the product, give away something
>> that is truly useful. Had I received something that I could deploy
>> cross platform, I might have actually used it, grown to love it and
>> then purchased the upgrade. As it stands now, I will probably just
>> slink off and think 'what a bunch of tight fisted jerks who don't  
>> know
>> how to teach people how to use their product.' And if anyone ever  
>> asks
>> me about Valentina I'll have to say, 'I tried to use it once. They  
>> had
>> a free promo but they were only giving out licenses good on one
>> platform. That and their hard to navigate website and crappy
>> documentation kept me from ever finding out if it was worth the  
>> trouble.'
>>
>>
>>     
>> ____________________________________________________________________________________
>> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
>> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
>> _______________________________________________
>> Valentina mailing list
>> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
>> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina