Getting out... -> docs

[Jeff Justice]

Once again, this isn't even what I'm talking about.  It is about  
convenience and doing things right.  Did you all read my previous  
message?

So, to put it in Thorsten's terms.

"Please help me, I've an issue here....I cannot get VServer Office to  
launch correctly when double-clicking the application.  It starts,  
then the process becomes unresponsive after 10 seconds or so.  After  
that happens, VServer Office cannot be started with any method without  
rebooting the server machine."

Since I've already been down this road with Ruslan, his answer was,  
and will probably be again "that's not the right way to launch VServer  
Office".

To which I say "then why is it even double-clickable?"  Response: "To  
bundle all the pieces together".

Back to square one, no answer as to why it doesn't work for us, why he  
using an app bundle, and we haven't even gotten around to  
troubleshooting the actual problem yet!  The conversations alway seem  
to start out with "why are you doing it that way and why would you  
want to do that?"  My Mail program doesn't crash just because I click  
on certain things in the wrong order, why should VStudio?  And the  
cycle goes around yet again.

This has been my experience with just about every problem I've  
encountered with Valentina, it just goes around and around with no  
other answer than "that's just the way it is, deal with it".

I submitted several things to Mantis about Valentina Studio, but I  
always got the distinct impression that my concerns about interface  
issues and crashing were trivial, because I was told I could always  
"get around them" through code. Back to the convenience thing again.

For me it's a simple equation.  6 months of messing with Valentina and  
no database created.  1 week with RB and I'm almost half way through  
the project.  What does that say about documentation, setup,  
licensing, etc.?  There's something wrong there.

Jeff J.


On Feb 12, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> But again, if you, Jeff, even compare
>
>    StartupItem/REALServer/REALServer
>    StartupItem/VServer_Office/VServer_Office
>
> You will see they are identical.
>
> And, surprise, you can run REAL Server from terminal, in the same  
> way as
> Valentina Server, only difference, RSS will not show you the live  
> log file
> in the terminal.