Newbie

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 22.10.2006 13:01, "Kim Kohen" <kim at webguide.com.au> wrote:

Hi Kim,

>> I have created the project myself, I downloaded the finished
>> project also and it fails every time I try to launch it in the
>> following method :
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> I'm pretty sure the only bug I found was in file 6 and it related to
> an incorrectly named editfield (or maybe database field - I can't
> recall which). Have you tried running the Valentina version of the
> tutorial file? I suspect your problem is simply a typo somewhere in
> your code.

Yes, or usually people forget do Valentina.Init() in the App.Open event


>> Is there any other source of documentation to start from scratch?
>> Everything seems very complicated to start.
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> I've always found (and still find!) Valentina to be 'quirky' to use.
> Especially when you come from the fairly standard RBDB way of doing
> things. Personally I think the very best interface to any database
> from RB is the PgSQL4RB classes for PostgeSQL. The problem there is
> supporting PostgreSQL:)

You mean that PgSQL4RB classes are better of RBDB API?
Or of Valentina API?

Please note, we do not prohibit in any way discussion on this list of any
other dbs. Or where other dbs are better of Valentina. Please DO THIS.

Such discussions can give all to use benefits because if somebody will point
really useful feature, we always will be happy add it to Valentina.
 
> I'm starting to see some of the benefits of using vCursors etc but
> sometimes it's a huge frustration as well and the temptation to
> revert to RBDB ways is almost overwhelming.

With time you will see that Valentina API is the best.
Be sure.

At last of end Valentina API currently give you about 800 public methods.
Where you will find similar power?
    MySQL client have only 20 :-)
    SqlLite client also about 20-30
    Postgre client about 30-40

> Of course Ruslan will disagree:) but I think the documentation for a
> non-standard API should be better.

No, our docs are not best. We know this. They are minimal to cover at least
existence of some features. And docs now take hundreds of pages total.

Again and again:

    you see that some feature is descried not good?
    * DROP a message here.
    * or even just add this into Mantis into section DOCS.


>> Sorry if this seems totally stupid, but I am trying to learn.
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> The example file I'm working on is not 'polished' and I've started
> working on a real project so I don't know when I'll get back to
> cleaning it up. If you'd like it though, I'd be happy to send it to
> you 'as is' to play with.  Keep in mind I've only been using
> Valentina for about 4 weeks and I still consider myself a novice in RB.

:-) experience show that never.

Many time new developers have promise that they will make cool tutorial, but
when they self become used to Valentina then no time always to finish it.


Btw, I still think using of RB listboxes is danger.
Our main examples show this btw.


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

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