[V4RB] Macho VComponents folder is 22mb???

[Dave Addey]

Hi Ruslan,

My application requires 10.4 anyway.  Personally, I would be very happy if
you could produce a version of the V4RB 2.4.1 Mach-O VComponents which don't
support 10.3, and which use the Mac OS version of ICU on 10.4.

However, I am sure that there will be other people who will still need the
10.3 support!

Is there any chance that you could provide *both* options, before 10.5 is
available?  If the Universal Binary version of V4RB is going to be four
times as big, and I see how it could be, then this will be even more
important for me!

All the best, 

Dave.

> From: Ruslan Zasukhin <sunshine at public.kherson.ua>
> Reply-To: Valentina Developers <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:49:26 +0300
> To: "valentina at lists.macserve.net" <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
> Conversation: [V4RB] Macho VComponents folder is 22mb???
> Subject: Re: [V4RB] Macho VComponents folder is 22mb???
> 
> On 8/24/06 6:25 PM, "Dave Wooldridge" <ebutterfly at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Also you can remove VSDK dll if you do not need use Convert_1_2() method.
> It is another 1MB.
> 
> Soon it is expected to get REALbasic and plugins to be universal.
> 
> 
> --------------
> Guys, be prepared to see size jump in about 4 (four) !!! Times.
> 
>     2 times because GCC produce 2 times bigger code than CodeWarrior did.
>     2 times more because UNIVERSAL i.e. PPC + x86 code will present.
>     
>     also I hate that Apple use ZIP for installers, while free Inno Setup
>     on Windows use more cool compression. On Windows we get archives
>     in 4.5MB, while on MAC best size is about 8.5Mb.
> 
> VComponents folder for Universal build is about 60MB,
> Compressed it is about 17 MB.
> 
> 
> ---------------
> Main overhead comes from ICU.
> 
> We already have discuss in this list, that Shaun have found way drop away
> ICU from VComponents folder and use ICU from OS X itself. But this step
> require drop of 10.3 support.
> 
> We have agree on this list, that we will wait 10.5 release, to drop 10.3.
> IF people here will agree do this step now, we will be self only happy.
> 
> 
> -----------------
> Shaun, was able get VComponents Universal built by GCC about 20MB as I
> remember. In compressed size about 4-5MB it seems. Quite acceptable.
> 
> 
> 
>> Okay, that only removes 1.4 mb, but I'll take it.  :-)
>> 
>> Thanks, Ivan!
>> 
>> --Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thursday, August 24, 2006, 10:11:16 AM, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just upgraded from V4RB 1 to V4RB 2, and beyond wading through the many
>>>> changes I'll need to make to my code to convert my RB project to V4RB 2, I
>>>> just noticed that the VComponents folder that is required to be placed
>>>> inside my Macho application bundle is a whopping 22mb!
>>> 
>>>> Adding that additional 22mb folder more than doubles the size of my Macho
>>>> app!  Which would also double my web site's download bandwidth usage when
>>>> my
>>>> app is released.
>>> 
>>>> If I'm only using Valentina ADK, are all of the files in that Macho
>>>> VComponents folder needed, or can some of them be safely removed (such as
>>>> server components)?
>>> 
>>> You can remove VClient if you don't use VServer.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
> 
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