[V4RB] Valentina Logo and Copyright info

[Robert Brenstein]

>  > we are not allowed to resell Valentina if we have no use for it
>>  anymore -- see item 7 of limitations
>
>Fair enough, this is common practice in software, and I can see why this
>should be in the agreement.
>

What? A common practice? Being able to resell is a norm. See for 
example CodeWarrior license. It has a list of stipulations that must 
be met but these are obvious. No problem reselling, though.

>  > a client that gets a custom application (as opposed to a program
>>  distributed to many) is required to purchase his/her own Valentina
>>  license -- see item 7 under limitations
>
>This is also true for others, like 4th Diemension that I used for years. It
>is not nice, but not that strange in this world too.
>

But what does the client do with that license exept paying money? It 
is one thing when they get the source code and continue development 
and different when they get a one-man-shareware app, a close box.

>  > we are not allowed to distribute programs developed in environments
>>  which do not produce compiled applications -- see item 1 in
>>  Commercial License
>
>Can see why, you wouldn't want your serial numbers and stuff open into the
>big bad world. Seems fair to me.

Again, you are misinterpreting this. This is not about having serial 
numbers in public. I can protect the serial numbers but my programs 
still don't meet the "compiled" criterion.

>There are always two sides of the coin: one side tells me that I want
>freedom and no hassle agreements. Valentina should not be so dominating in
>what they want us to do in our own creations, because it is our money spent,
>and our expensive time that is used.
>
>On the other hand, I do want these guys to earn some money too, because when
>I spend hundreds of hours building software on top of their database engine,
>I do not want them to be out of business within a year or so. Valentina
>needs us, but we sure need them too, and having this great support from
>Ruslan and others is worth some money.
>
>So we need each other, and that is what should be on Paradigma's mind when
>they rewrite the license agreement. It is not only you, but a team of you
>and the developers using your products. Help us, and we will help you.

A good license agreement is surely to help the developers. Some of 
the items I listed, make be legally unable to sell my products. My 
selling my stuff is the best way for Valentina to prosper (talking 
generically of course :)

Robert