Ruslan, Vserver still running on G4 OSX Server 10.2.1 RealBasic 4.5.2 OSX on iBook running OSX 10.2.1 "Single Table" example In the IDE I get error 9 In a compiled app just doing Open and then the Query works perfectly.. Error 666 is still a pita ;?) I'll try a with a Windows machine tonight... now back to work before I get shot Fred