Mark comments about wiki

[william humphrey]

Ruslan

It is always amazing how responsive you are to customer complaints.  Thank
you very much.

Bill


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 10/6/13 10:17 PM, "Mark Schonewille" <m.schonewille at economy-x-talk.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> > As I wrote earlier, when install software, I expect to find all
> > essential information in the application folder and not on the website.
>
> > Surely, you can continue to argue that all information is somewhere on
> > the internet, but I really don't know where to start looking on the
> > Valentina website. Even worse: I was seriously doubting that I was
> > looking at the correct website.
>
> > Therefore, I recommend to include a PDF with the software that is
> > installed on the user's computer. The user reads the PDF, say 25 pages,
> > and will know everything s/he needs to start using the software and to
> > find more information in other places.
>
> Okay, I see your points, but Mark,
>
>     * Did you even install mySQL or postgreSQL ?
>     * Did you ever install PHP?
>
> Where they keep docs?  They keep docs on site, Online.
> Installer have ReadMe. Nothing more.
>
> And nobody complains on this.
>
>
> 25 page PDFs or 3 page PDF do not matters.
> It will not be bale explain all.
>
> For example INI file, which William thinks is important for beginners, but
> it is not important, because it can work with default settings.
>
> So I think, single URL to Valentina WIKI must be more than enough ...
> But what I agree, we need on site add more direct links into Valentina Wiki
> parts.
>   Vserver page           ->  vserver docs
>   Livecode page         -> LiveCode docs in Valentina Wiki
>
>
> > For example, you could write a
> > section about how to find our way in the WIKI, which really isn't
> > obvious to me.
>
>
> > Apparently, there are sections for each product, but
> > sometimes you need to look in a different section. WIKIs are a bad way
> > to provide new users with documentation and I would prefer a simple PDF.
>
> But if you look around, software industry very actively use online docs.
> MySQL, SQLite, postgreSQL, PHP, ....
> Right?
>
> Problem is that we do not have easy way convert WIKI to PDF.
>
> And it is absolute hell try to copy paste WIKI and yet PDF sources.
> Will be more mess only
>
> Wiki allows to add-fix information in minutes. Just online.
> So we choose WIKI.
>
>
> > So, the point is not that the information is not there. The point is
> > that I find it difficult for me to find the information I need. I'll
> > have a closer look at your reply later tonight. I'm sure your answers
> > will be useful.
>
> Yes, this is problem, and I hope you see, that last few days we very
> actively discuss this ... Thank you very much.
>
>     PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP! :-)
>     PRESS US,
>     KICK US
>
> Even if I argue, In this answers I explain PATH ... And
> Sometimes I see where are problems on that path,
>
> New videos is our first reaction to simplify things for new-comers.
> One accurate video in 8-10 minutes, takes one day of job for me.
>
> But I hope this will be very useful :-)
>
> I already have integrate 3 videos into Valentina WIKI sections.
> Into section videos, and also into sections of
>
> VSERVER
> Vstudio
> Xojo
>
>
> And I am going spend yet weak at least,
> improving things for BEGINERS.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
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