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[Jeff Justice]

Yes, "I challenge you" means show me that it can be done because I  
cannot make it work.

I am quite experienced on Macs.  However, the point is that when you  
right click on something, and nothing happens, that tends to make a  
user believe that the command does not work.  In addition, what has  
been left out of the instructions is that you must now right click on  
the database column to add the new user.

This has nothing to do with my abilities on the Mac, it has to do with  
providing complete information.  If I WERE a new user, how would I  
know to do this?  No instructions, no menu, no straight answer from  
the list.  Must find all this on my own.  You make too many  
assumptions about users.  I deal with this every single day from  
user's of my software and I strive to not leave out details such as  
this.

I asked a colleague of mine to sit down with VStudio and change the  
default password.  It took him 15 minutes and several questions to me  
to figure it out.  He is a 20 year programming veteran.  Not only  
that, without any information, he deleted the sa user.  Because  
nothing happened the first time, he disconnected and tried to re- 
connect thinking something was wrong.  Had to re-install VServer for  
him to get the Master DB back.

So it's not just me.

Jeff J.


On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:13 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> On 13/2/08 9:02 AM, "Jeff Justice" <listaccount at starionline.com>  
> wrote:
>
>
>>>> "Using only VStudio, I challenge you to show me step by step how to
>>>> change VServer's default username and password ("sa" and "sa") to
>>>> anything else without crashing VStudio."
>>
>> Did not get an answer.
>
> Above is a question? Even now I do not fell it as question. OR I  
> have not
> catch something? I do not see  "?"
>
> May be really because I am not native english.
>
> "I challenge you" -- this is question? Or ask?
>
>
> ------------
>> Second of all, you leave out any and all detail about how to actually
>> DO this.  From my experimentation, I find that you must RIGHT CLICK  
>> on
>> the user, select "Delete".  Nobody has said this.
>
> Are you really newbie to computers ???
>
> You don't know that modern applications have contextual menus for most
> objects?
>
> RULE (for any modern app):
>    Right click on any object MUST show you menu with all actions
>    which can do this object.
>
> Why somebody should tell you this? :-)
>
>
>> When I delete the user sa.  Nothing happens.  User sa is still the
>> column.  Apparently column does not refresh.  Right click again on
>> user sa.  Say delete again.  This time error of invalid user.
>>
>> Wow.  That's intuitive.  NOT.
>
> Agree, bug. Should be added into Mantis.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
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