Getting out... -> docs

[Ruslan Zasukhin]

On 13/2/08 12:16 AM, "Jeff Justice" <listaccount at starionline.com> wrote:

> Once again, this isn't even what I'm talking about.  It is about
> convenience and doing things right.  Did you all read my previous
> message?


Okay, 

1) I accept your words that Valentina Studio should not crash like e-mailer.
   Nobody never have told you else. Right?


2) I still do not accept your claims about IF it looks like double clickable
-- it should work. Although it really works. And fact you see "No Response"
in the Activity manager do not means that SERVER do not works. It still
works perfectly, accepting socket connections.


3) Claim that I cannot use VSERVER 6 months sounds just odd.
Jeff, many people around ARE ABLE to use it. Valentina Server perfectly
works if not double click it, but follow instead docs.
    And you will get everything working in 2 minutes of installation,
    or in 10 seconds run in the terminal.

4) Okay, I have download RSS, run installer and what ???
    * no readme, 
    * Activity monitor show it is not started
    * no ask to restart computer
    * no docs
    * no folder shown with server or docs
    
    NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and you tell me this is top of quality for SERVER installation ?
    may be I am stupid of course....
    or my brain is not tuned in the RSS way?  :-)


5) after review of few pages of RSS I still cannot find any link to its
admin.  This is Best ?

6) Since I cannot find admin yet, I have not test this START/STOP feature,
which you soo like. But so far I am asking question self:

    * what if SERVER is on remote computer in other city, this
        ADMIN feature also will work? Or it become useless?
        
    * is it vital for end-users, which should even do not see and not hear
        background SERVER?  Answer is no.

    * is it really more comfortable to our terminal way?
        answer is no.

    * is it faster in developer job than terminal? Answer is no.

    * does it show live log -- the paradise during development.
        Answer is no.

    * does for end-users important if vserver_office looks like double-click
        app or they do not care because this is deep system area location?

    * and what prefer Valentina developer? To have all in single "file"
        or like many files which dummy end-user can break more easy?
        We think better all in one.

7) you have point you need in house development, okay.
    so this will not be real life deployment of app which will be stressed
by stupid end end users. And if your db is going to be tiny - around 1000
records and few tables, RSS really may work for you.

8) But such people as Thorsten know, and he is modest to not given you one
example :-)   his app around mySQL did some query about 5 minutes, and
around Valentina it was 5-30 seconds, now in 3.5 it is about 0.1 sec as I
remember.

    Compare, 
        mySQL       5 min = 300 seconds
        Valentina   0.1 - 1 sec

And this was not huge table...just somehow complex form of SQL.
What if table has millions records?

So my point is: 
    you really should use right tools for your tasks.

In any case: 
    of course I am not happy that we was not able satisfy you,
    and we will try deeply analyze what was wrong for you and improve that.

Thank you for feedback, Jeff. Please continue to bomb us :-)
I am not joking, I love such feedback most of all. It warms up.

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]