Getting out... -> docs

[Thorsten Hohage]

Hi Jeff,

sorry, but I must comment on it. I really try to be quite on it but I  
can't hesitate ...


On 2008-02-12, at 20:12, Jeff Justice wrote:

> I would also like to point out that we've been down this road before.
Yes and on many other topics, too.


>  Search through the list archives.
Oh, I did exactly what you suggested here. I found several mails and  
threads initiated with one of your mails. But comparing the "feelings  
of pain" you're now trying to express here, I found much fewer mails,  
then expected. Of course there might be mails behind the scene, chats  
with Ruslan and other Paradigma stuff I didn't know about.

IMHO most if not all of your mails are angry, aggressive, nerved or  
stressed out - this might be due to the fact, that I'm not a native  
speaker. There is no email "Please help me, I've an issue here..."  
there is always "what the heck is this...why does it not work?".


>  You'll see that I have mentioned documentation several times along  
> with other people.
And in many cases, I can't simply understand why. You asked for  
documentation about licence files, VDN, ... all the things that well  
documented and could be easily found in the wiki, of course not  
"easily" as getting a big steak served at the table. And IMHO a  
DEVELOPER must be able to do such a search and must be clearly able to  
find such informations.

If you expect it in another way, more like an enduser, then you  
perhaps should ask yourself what kind of application you're looking for.


Furthermore in several cases you got responses from this list or had  
been directed to the appropriate point in the documentation. But do  
you really care this answers?


Oh and talking about documentation, the first result in the wiki  
search for "start Vserver" should have answered all your question  
about VServer and start in Terminal, do you read it, before getting  
upset?



> There was even talk from Paradigma of improving it, several people  
> volunteered their help, and yet here we are having the same  
> discussion.
And? Do you write any white paper for any new RB-Developer having  
licence issues after you've mastered it?  I must admit I promised  
Ruslan 2 or 3 articles months ago and my day business is still eating  
them - sad but true. And I'm afraid it's the same for any other  
developer claiming better docs here and working for long time with  
Valentina. E.g.(!) Beatrix, where is your contribution?


> And people wonder why I'm frustrated with Valentina.
Perhaps in YOUR specific situation are completely frustrated and even  
be able to find a better solution, or better believe you found a  
better solution. I think a lot of us gets the "Valentina Blues" from  
time to time, but prefer to improve it, then to look for alternatives.  
And some already mentioned that there might be no real alternative for  
them.

Is there not a company out there, that publicly announced to write  
their own database after they believed to be disappointed by Valentina  
and now while they still try to write it are happily using Valentina  
again?

So in a global view, yes, I'm still wondering.


>  If you want specifics, why not just have a look at RealSQLServer's  
> docs.  That's the kind of straightforward easy to read documentation  
> I'm talking about.

Oh, some threads here:

	"Installing REALSQLserver" - sounds not as easy as one might believe

	"REAL SQL Server: uninstall" - uninstall seems not really to be easy  
or even mac like

	
oh and I really like a posting from Mr. Palardy from 2007-06-13 in the  
"Re: RB - is it usable" - thread. Read it very carefully, before you  
go on the way you're currently choosing.

I stop here, even though I found so many more threads about  
"REALSQLserver" , but this is the Valentina list, not the  
REALSQLSERVER-List.


I really wish you success and satisfaction with your new db and really  
try to be quite on this topic anymore.


regards

Thorsten Hohage
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objectmanufactur.com - Hamburg,Germany