Getting out...

[Mr. Bart Pietercil]

On 12-feb-08, at 15:42, Jeff Justice wrote:

> Ruslan, this is exactly the kind of stuff that has driven me away.   
> We went through this IN DETAIL, step by step.  I'm not just some  
> idiot that can't launch a service via Terminal.  Once again you have  
> missed the point and ignored the circumstances behind all this.
>
> So I will detail it out AGAIN here.  The problem first came about  
> because we needed to change licenses on VServer WITHOUT restarting  
> the server.  Our server is remote to our development machine.  The  
> only way to do this was to stop the server with VStudio, which  
> DIDN'T WORK.  That problem was eventually fixed in VStudio but by  
> this point, we had resorted to stopping VServer with Activity Viewer.
>

care to share the version numbers on os en valentina.
Because your setup resembles closely to our setup and this rebooting  
through clicking is what we always do (in the rare event the server  
crashed that is)
We are working from OSX Server Tiger in a remote datacenter. The  
server is controlled through ARD. If the server crashes we relaunch it  
through Library/VServer_Embedded/
In this directory is the VServer_Embedded.app. We double click,  
VServer reboots ....Of course your license needs to be OK


hth,


Bart


> The first time we tried to "conveniently" restart the process by  
> double-clicking on the so-called "application" that the VServer  
> would launch, but become unresponsive a few seconds later.  Quitting  
> the unresponsive process and subsequently trying to launch it via  
> the Terminal would yield the same result, unresponsive VServer.  The  
> ONLY solution at that point was to reboot the machine.
>
> So what started the whole "application bundle" thing was:
>
> 1. You said that it was the "wrong" way to launch the server.
> 2. By double-click launching, it broke the server causing it to have  
> to be rebooted.
> 3. My belief was that a double-clickable app, to be Mac compatible,  
> should launch the VServer, right or wrong shouldn't be an issue.
>
> I just tried it again, and have CONFIRMED the results.  VServer will  
> become unresponsive if started after a double-click on the app, and  
> nothing will make it run except a reboot.
>
> So, in case you've missed my points:
>
> 1. I have a legitimate need to start and stop the server without  
> rebooting.
> 2. A double-clickable app on a Mac should launch the VServer, right  
> or wrong, period.  If you don't want people to launch VServer that  
> way, don't bundle it in an app.  It's "wrong" use of an app bundle,  
> to use your word.
> 3. Double-clicking the VServer app hoses our server.
>
> Jeff J.
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 1:57 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:
>
>> On 12/2/08 12:00 AM, "Jeff Justice" <listaccount at starionline.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>>> Thank you to Ruslan and all others who have helped me try and make  
>>> it
>>> work along the way.
>>
>> What I do not like when __DEVELOPERS___ say that something simple  
>> not works,
>> and make big noise on this.
>>
>> For example, yesterday on private chat you have claim that
>>
>>   * WHY vserve_office made as .app
>>       what means it should be double clickable.
>>       I have explain why -- to be all in one.
>>
>>   * You say that double click DO NOT starts vserver.
>>       I have told you that in the past I self have check this
>>       and it did work, as far as I remember.
>>
>>   Jeff says that vserver do not starts on double click.
>>
>> Okay. Lets check.
>>
>> 1) Open Activity monitor.
>>   in the search field type two letters  "vs"
>>   if vserver running now -- force it quite.
>>
>> 2) open folder /Library/VServer_Office.
>>   trash here vserver_office.log file  -- to see it it will be created
>>
>> Now do double click on Vserver_Office.app
>>
>>   Bingo -> in the Activity monitor we see that vserver_office is  
>> runing.
>>   And yes, vserver.log file was created correctly.
>>
>> Okay, lets check if vstudio can connect to it:
>>   Start vstudio, and we see Bonjour icons of vserver. All works fine.
>>   Please see attached picture.
>>
>> Where problems ???
>> What not works ???
>>
>> And I have told that just there is no need to start vserver in SUCH  
>> way.
>> But AND THIS WAY really works.
>>
>>
>> P.S. IMHO, If somebody cannot drive F17 fighter,
>>   this not means that F17 is bad :-)
>>
>> P.S. And I was able second time force quite vserver, and run it  
>> again and
>> again via double click...
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ruslan Zasukhin
>> VP Engineering and New Technology
>> Paradigma Software, Inc
>>
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>>
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