Trap Valentina license time limit - where is the documentationhypelinks

[Barry G. Sumpter]

I have to agree with Jeff.

I've attempted to make some contributions as noted on my web site.

I'd be happy to do my share when assigned.

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Just had a flash.
Could we start our own wiki on the real Wikipedia regarding Documentation?
Again, happy to do my share if it encourages others to participate.

Thanks,
	Barry G. Sumpter

-----Original Message-----
From: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net
[mailto:valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Justice
Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2007 6:10 AM
To: Valentina Developers
Subject: Re: Trap Valentina license time limit - where is the
documentationhypelinks

I have to agree with you to a degree.  Having spent a fair amount of  
time poring through the "documentation", and the wiki, I find it hard  
to follow.

I think there is another factor here that has been missed.  Yes,  
things may be acceptable to you "Valentina Old Timers" out there, but  
I am a Valentina newbie.

Newbies need good documentation.  We need hand-holding some times.   
More newbies = more instances of Valentina out there in the world.   
If the product has such a steep learning curve that newbies don't  
want to touch it or take the time to figure it out by trial and error  
in the absence of good documentation, then old-timers are the only  
market Paradigma will ever reach.  Maybe that's what they want, I  
don't know.

Moving on to the documentation that is already in place; I have  
absolutely nothing against people who don't speak English as their   
primary language.  I find that in both the documentation and the  
wiki, I have to re-read the text two, three, or more times to fully  
understand what the writer is getting at.  While it is true that the  
information is more or less there, it takes more time to do this.

I personally think I have a pretty good command of the english  
language, and would be willing to spend some time to straighten up  
the grammar and spelling of the documentation and wiki, if someone at  
Paradigma expresses an interest in me doing so.

Jeff J.


On Jul 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Barry G. Sumpter wrote:

> I feel I've wasted countless hours on this product research.
> I execute my due diligence by researching issues before asking  
> questions.
> The documentation is convoluted and very hard to follow.
> I feel the responses I receive and read from this mail list are  
> vague and
> hard to follow and reference topic not found in the documentation  
> and worded
> like the question is ridiculously obvious.
> I feel the wiki search engine doesn't return valid hits for the  
> keywords I
> use.
> I feel the mail list search doesn't return valid hits for the  
> keywords I
> use.
>
> I feel the issues listed above have crippled my positive constructive
> progress.
>
> Again, where is the documentation hyperlinks regarding this exception:
> ERR_INTERNAL_DEMO_TIMEOUT
>
> Again, where is the documentation hyperlinks regarding license time  
> out
> issues
>
> Again, where is the documentation hyperlinks regarding  
> kernel_errors.xml
>
> Where is the documentation hyperlinks regarding serial numbers from  
> v1.1 NOT
> working in v3.1
>
>
> I'm looking for any positive constructive reference at all, from  
> anyone.
>
> I'd like to read other users responses on how they are researching  
> this
> product, finding and applying code examples from the documentation,  
> and
> participating in these threads, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net
> [mailto:valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Kirill  
> Pekarov
> Sent: Saturday, 7 July 2007 2:41 AM
> To: Valentina Developers
> Subject: Re[2]: Trap Valentina license time limit
>
> Hi, Barry.
>
> You wrote 06.07.2007, 19:25:39:
>
>> Can anyone, anyone at all, reply with a hyperlink to any  
>> documentation
> that
>> describes this exception: ERR_INTERNAL_DEMO_TIMEOUT
>
> As I told:  ERR_INTERNAL_DEMO_TIMEOUT described in the
> kernel_errors.xml:
>
> <SQLSTATE name="99520">
>     <DESCRIPTION>ERR_INTERNAL_DEMO_TIMEOUT</DESCRIPTION>
>     <MESSAGE>Demo-version time limit reached</MESSAGE>
> </SQLSTATE>
>
> Error code: 99520 (Note: this is in HEX)
> Description: Demo-version time limit reached
>
> How work with exceptions you can find in the
> example Common/Error_Handling.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>
> Kirill Pekarov
> Software Engineer Associate
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
> http://www.valentina-db.com
>
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