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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good idea, actually I had another issue with not fully loaded externals some time ago. In this case the Valentina_Init() is called in a late subhandler in preopenstack after other subhandlers, like reading a xml file, where also an external is needed. So the chance is very small, but nevertheless it’s worth to give it a try.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks also Robert and Beatrix for jumping in. I will check that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Right now I have to wait, if the exercised current customer wants to help me debugging again, or I have to wait for the next case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tiemo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Mike Bonner<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013 18:02<br><b>An:</b> Valentina Developers<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: Crash with V4REV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Where do you call the init? openstack? preopenstack? opencard? While it is most likely NOT the issue, there is a slight chance that on some machines the loading of the externals is not quite complete when the call hits. (Again, not likely, but possible.. Should throw an error in this case but you never know) THis is only a real possibility if you are calling the init from preopenstack. What you might do is move the init code to a separate handler and do a<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>send "handlername" to this stack in 1 tick so that there is more time for any pre-loading requirements to complete. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also, just out of curiosity, if you place the init inside a try /catch construct, are you then able to get an error out? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB <<a href="mailto:toolbook@kestner.de" target="_blank">toolbook@kestner.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Robert,<br><br>yes thats what "my feeling" also tells me, a conflict with something<br>external beeinng there or not being there as expected. But I have never got<br>any specific windows requirements (on file level) from Valentina, where I<br>could look for.<br>Valentina_Init() is the very first Valentina statement. I didn't tried to<br>disable it, without init nothing else does make sense - or does it?<br>Which other Valentina calls could be fired before init?<br><br>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tiemo<br><br>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>> Von: <a href="mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net">valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:valentina-">valentina-</a><br>> <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.macserve.net">bounces@lists.macserve.net</a>] Im Auftrag von Robert Brenstein<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Januar 2013 15:22<br>> An: Valentina Developers<br>> Betreff: Re: AW: Crash with V4REV<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><br>> On 10.01.2013 at 13:41 Uhr +0100 Tiemo Hollmann TB apparently wrote:<br>> >Hi Robert,<br>> ><br>> >thats what I tried already, but it seems to crash right before anything<br>> >else, while initializing Valentina, so no crashlog is created.<br>> ><br>> >Thank you<br>> >Tiemo<br>><br>> Okay, so you verified that the LiveCode starts fine and the program<br>crashes<br>> when doing the first call to Valentina. Is Valentina init the first call<br>to<br>> Valentina? Have you tried disabling the init and see whether it continues<br>> past that to give valentina not inited error at the next call? Since it<br>> works for some, it sounds like it could be a conflict with something else<br>> on the affected systems, but no experience with XP here. There are some<br>> Valentina calls that can be done before init. You could try to insert one<br>> and see whether your program goes past it.<br>><br>> Robert<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Valentina mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Valentina@lists.macserve.net">Valentina@lists.macserve.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina" target="_blank">http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Valentina mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Valentina@lists.macserve.net">Valentina@lists.macserve.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina" target="_blank">http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>