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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi William,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>thank you for your
testing offer. Because it runs fine on 90% of the machines, the chance is very
small that the error comes up on your machine, but in case I’ll like to come
back to your offer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have read about Trevors
framework. It must be a great work, but I don’t understand why it is an
alternative for a (valentina) database, because it is not a database, it is a
framework, or am I incorrect?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On windows the
application data dir would be an appropriate place for a db, which is
read/write, but is it it in my case?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tiemo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font
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valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net
[mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Im
</span></b></span></font><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Auftrag von </span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>william
humphrey<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Montag, 14. Dezember
2009 18:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> Valentina Developers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: VDataBase_IsOpen(
gDBRef ) fails</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tierno<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I would be happy to do some testing of your program on Mac OS X snow
leopard if you think it might help. I have always used Valentina in the
development environment but I want to release it using framework<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/2009/10/new-manual-converting-an-existing-application-to-use-the-framework/">http://www.bluemangolearning.com/revolution/2009/10/new-manual-converting-an-existing-application-to-use-the-framework/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Because with framework you can set-up a "check for updates"
button on your application which otherwise is very hard to do. I also love how
frameworks makes both the windows and the mac compiled version ready for use
there all the time. What I don't like about framework is that there are not
enough valentina/rurrev developers using it<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I keep my database here:
/Library/VServer_Office/databases/my_database.vdb. on mac os but I have no idea
where to keep it on windows but since I will always recommend that my customers
buy vstudio and vServer so that they can have a better handle on their database
(that is my plan anyway) then the database will need to be where vServer
expects it and I haven't gotten around to doing any windows testing. I'm
tempted just to tell my customers to buy macs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB <<a
href="mailto:toolbook@kestner.de">toolbook@kestner.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
am using V4REV_3 and I have two support issues, without a solution. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1.
Right when launching my app, before opening the database I am doing a test with</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB> </span><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>VDataBase_IsOpen( gDBRef ) if it is already open, if
not I am opening it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>On
99% of the installations this runs smooth, but some customers get a function
error at this statement on Mac and Win. The curious thing on this is, that it
only happens since my latest update release. And it happens reproducible at
this some customers every time they launch my app. When installing an older
version of my app, it runs without this problem. But since the beginning of
this app I have nothing changed on this function or statement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So
there are two questions: 1. What could be the difference in the environment of
the machines, where it runs and not, what could have an effect on this
statement? 2. What could have changed in my App from one version to the next
that this error appears, but only on a few machines? My only idea is, that
perhaps the valentina drivers or my program isn’t fully or correctly
loaded. But is so, why and what could I change? Does anybody has experienced
anything similar and has any hint or direction for my researches?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2.
With the first version of my App I got on some Mac machines an index error. So
I added a VDataBase_SQLExecute( gDBRef, "REINDEX DATABASE" ) after
having opened the database and the problem was gone.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Because
my database has no write or update actions on it (it is only read by my App),
the database file resides in a subfolder of my program dir, what was no problem
concerning any user rights for write action. Now I got unsure, what actually is
happening with the reindex database. Is this a write performance on the
database file or does the reindex only happens in the memory? If it is a write
performance on the file I think it should not resides in the prog dir, but 1. I
can’t change the whole design of my App at all customers out there and 2.
If this could get a problem, why is it running at all (most) customers? 3.
Could problem #1 has anything to do with this, though the reindex happens a
dozens statement later as the test of being open and no error is thrown on this
statement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
appreciate any hints or opinions, sometimes I don’t see the wood for the
trees.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank
you</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tiemo</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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