Can we ask you to find time start active Valentina 5.0

Wed Mar 28 04:52:20 CDT 2012

Yeah ok.  You've made it sound so simple to pitch in.
N the timin is right.

Been stuck inside for the past 4 weeks working on me project.
Promised me lady that I'd get out a da house for a few days.

So I'll be available on Monday if that's not too late.
Or sooner if I can't get any sleep n needs me something to do.

I can replace the 4.9 serve and the ADKs with v5.0 and test me project
against it.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:55:24 +0300
From: Ruslan Zasukhin <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
To: "valentina at lists.macserve.net" <valentina at lists.macserve.net>,
	Stan Busk <maxprog at mac.com>
Subject: [HELP] Can we ask you to find time start active Valentina 5.0
	beta	testing?
Message-ID: <CB98908C.FD0A3%ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Hi Valentina Developers!

Today we planning to make one more big b20 build of MAC and Windows
products.

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PLEASE help us do testing of 5.0 betas. We are close to release.

PLEASE do not wait for other peoples do that and do not wait for release.
You all use different tools, different OS, different styles.

Its really time to start update your projects to Valentina 5.0 tools.
PLEASE reserve time in your life for this step in nearest 3-5 days.

When b20 will be ready, I will drop one more letter here and on beta list.

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You know it is very easy install Valentina ADK and Valentina Server -- just
double click. It is easy enough also remove it -- just remove plugin and
vcomponents folder and return back older 4.9

Or may be use some virtual machine in Paralles or VirtualBox to not break
your existed environment.

First attempt -- just install and try compile then run and fast check if all
right. This should take 5-10 minutes only.

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ESPECAILLY we ask to play with 5.0 developers which was yet before 4.9
version. I remember Stan Busk have avoid switch to 4.9, but Stan, please try
now ... We need together make sure that 5.0 will works for you. Okay?

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* We should use beta list for future talks about beta builds.

* You can read in our BLOG articles related to 5.0
         <http://www.valentina-db.com/blog/?tag=5-0>

* We have made separate WIKI where we have add description of 5.0 features
        <http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki5/>

* You can see in the mantis RoadMap for each our project to see fixed bugs
and implemented features ...
       <http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/roadmap_page.php>

===================================================
* Very major feature of 5.0 will be located in Valentina Studio

  * SQLite and Postgre admin plugins.

  * Very Powerful new Diagram/Model editor for all 3 DBs.
     Reverse and Forward engineering of model.
     It will allow save hours and days if you develop or improve db schema.
     It can self create needed ObjectPtr/FK fields, and even MM table...
     You need to see that ...

      We can do things which cannot do Navicat and WorkBench.
      In particular we can mix on same diagram existed db objects and
      designed objects...

  * SQL DIFF -- year of development in this area by at least one of our
    developer. In fact this piece of code tightly integrated into Diagrams
    also. 

  * Valentina REPORT now can use SQLite and Postgre as datasources.

===================================================
** Valentina Kernel major feature is rollback journal with automatic recover
to latest fixed state on the next db.open

    * also we have add ENUM TYPE and Sequences like in postgre and Oracle.
    * We have improve recursive commands to support RDB linkes, SP, ..
    * We finishing now new Triggers

===================================================
* Valentina SERVER -- is DB + REPORTs Server.

   * FIRST TIME Vserver via its VReport.dll can talk to other VServer or
PostgreSQL and mySQL to get from them data to build records.
     YES, mySQL already works as datasource for reports.

   * TEAM now can work together over diagrams. Exists locks and warning
dialogs in Vstudio about possible conflicts.

===================================================
* VCLIENT

    ** re-written work with sockets to avoid any hangs on network troubles.

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Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:00:29 +0200
From: Beatrix Willius <bwillius at gmx.de>
To: Valentina Developers <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: Re: [HELP] Can we ask you to find time start active Valentina
	5.0	beta testing?
Message-ID: <767CBAFE-2B50-402C-8C8E-83A5A318EF31 at gmx.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

If there were an easier way to change between versions of Valentina this
would really help with testing! As it is I need to make a dot release in the
next days and then I can test.

On 28.03.2012, at 08:55, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> Today we planning to make one more big b20 build of MAC and Windows 
> products.
> 
> ===================================================
> PLEASE help us do testing of 5.0 betas. We are close to release.
> 
> PLEASE do not wait for other peoples do that and do not wait for release.
> You all use different tools, different OS, different styles.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:45:26 +0300
From: Ruslan Zasukhin <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
To: "valentina at lists.macserve.net" <valentina at lists.macserve.net>,
	"valentina-beta at lists.macserve.net"
	<valentina-beta at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: Re: [HELP] Can we ask you to find time start active Valentina
	5.0	beta testing?
Message-ID: <CB989C46.FD0B6%ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
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On 3/28/12 10:00 AM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

> If there were an easier way to change between versions of Valentina 
> this would really help with testing! As it is I need to make a dot 
> release in the next days and then I can test.

Lets think about simple ways.

A) Valentina Studio is just .app   so no problems here. Right?
  you can have right on desktop
  Vstudio_4.9  and Vstudio_5.0_b20

B) V4RB  or another ADK

   You CAN make on desktop FOLDER
        V4RB_49/V4RB.rbx
        V4RB_50/V4RB.rbx

 before install 5.0 beta, go to  /usr/local/lib/vcomponents  and just
renamed folder to
            /usr/local/lib/vcomponents_49

  then install 5.0 and you will get newer
        /usr/local/lib/vcomponents

 you can even COPY it and name
        /usr/local/lib/vcomponents_50b20

C) also I drop in Finder to left side folders
        RB/plugins
       /usr/local/lib

so I can in one click jump to this folder.

D) Now it is easy enough switch ...

TO 5.0 steps are: ---------------------------------

    1) COPY  V4RB_50/V4RB.rbx  INTO folder RB/plugins

    2) TRASH current /usr/local/lib/vcomponents
    3) COPY /usr/local/lib/vcomponents_5.0_b20  into
      just  vcomponents

      *** START realbasic

TO 4.9  steps are: ---------------------------------

    1) COPY  V4RB_49/V4RB.rbx  INTO folder RB/plugins

    2) TRASH current /usr/local/lib/vcomponents
    3) COPY /usr/local/lib/vcomponents_49  into
      just  vcomponents

      *** START realbasic

E)  YOU can even make TWO small scripts with 3 lines:

to_5

    cp /V4RB_50/V4RB.rbx /Applications/REALbasic xx/plugins

    rm -R /usr/local/lib/vcomponents
    cp /usr/local/lib/vcomponents_50 /usr/local/lib/vcomponents

Now you can just double click this script or run it from terminal

EASY ?

--
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:21:55 +0300
From: Ruslan Zasukhin <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
To: "valentina at lists.macserve.net" <valentina at lists.macserve.net>,
	"valentina-beta at lists.macserve.net"
	<valentina-beta at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: BLOG note with small video about links on new diagrams
Message-ID: <CB98A4D3.FD0BA%ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

You can read it here

    http://www.valentina-db.com/blog/?p=935

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Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]

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