Is there an install set for vServer 5? If there is, where can I download it?

Tue Mar 13 01:02:01 CDT 2012

Valentina 5 products will be available for download within the next 30 days.
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Is there an install set for vServer 5?  
If there is, where can I download it?

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Today's Topics:

   1. Is there an install set for vServer 5?  Or is it v4.9.1?
      (Barry G. Sumpter)
   2. Re: Is there an install set for vServer 5?  Or is it v4.9.1?
      (Ruslan Zasukhin)

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:21:52 +1100
From: "Barry G. Sumpter" <barrysum at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Is there an install set for vServer 5?  Or is it v4.9.1?
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Is there an install set for vServer 5?  
If there is, where can I download it?

Or is it v4.9.1?

Will my unlimited license for v4 work with v5?

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   1. Re: Db's segment size (Ivan Smahin)
   2. Re: Db's segment size (Ivan Smahin)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:11:10 +0200
From: Ivan Smahin <ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com>
To: Valentina Developers <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: Re: Db's segment size
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On Mar 11, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Beatrix Willius wrote:

> Hi Ivan,
> 
> some questions:
> 
> - what is the default size of the segment file?

32KB

> - are there other drawbacks when using a bigger segment size?

Assume your data is about 1MB only, but you choose 10MB as db's segment size
- so you will get approximately 20MB ( first segment for service internal
data + second segment for user data) for each volume (in case of 4 dedicated
volumes it will be 80MB, in case of a single volume it will be 20MB ...) and
all of these just for storing your 10MB data.

Another point is - assume your data is slightly bigger then a single segment
size. Even if it is 1 byte bigger, the next segment will be allocated (10MB)
to store that additional 1 byte.

> - what happens if you hit the max number of segments?

You should get an error, but this area is very complex, complicated, with
lot of optimizations. You'd better stay away from this situation. And
finally you'll get no options besides migration data to the new db with
dumps.

> - why do I need to manage this manually?
> 

Default segment size lets you have a db up to 64GB. It is hard to say how
much is it - obviously it depends on db nature. But in average, it seems to
be a good compromise between a "db chunk size" (32KB is not so much to spare
even to keep that additional single byte) and "growing capabilities".

But if you plan to keep some genome data or lot of pictures, documents and
so on, then, probably 64GB limit is too low - so you should choose bigger
segment size.

> On 11.03.2012, at 11:21, Ivan Smahin wrote:
> 
>> There is a short note about choosing appropriate db's segment size.
>> 
>> http://www.valentina-db.com/blog/?p=852
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards
> 
> Trixi Willius
> 
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Ivan Smahin
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:13:54 +0200
From: Ivan Smahin <ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com>
To: Valentina Developers <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: Re: Db's segment size
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On Mar 11, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote:

> 
> On Mar 11, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Beatrix Willius wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ivan,
>> 
>> some questions:
>> 
>> - what is the default size of the segment file?
> 
> 32KB
> 
>> - are there other drawbacks when using a bigger segment size?
> 
> Assume your data is about 1MB only, but you choose 10MB as db's 
> segment
size - so you will get approximately 20MB ( first segment for service
internal data + second segment for user data) for each volume (in case of 4
dedicated volumes it will be 80MB, in case of a single volume it will be
20MB ...) and all of these just for storing your 10MB data.

Mistyping - your 1 MB data.

> 
> Another point is - assume your data is slightly bigger then a single
segment size. Even if it is 1 byte bigger, the next segment will be
allocated (10MB) to store that additional 1 byte.
> 
> 
> 
>> - what happens if you hit the max number of segments?
> 
> You should get an error, but this area is very complex, complicated, 
> with
lot of optimizations. You'd better stay away from this situation. And
finally you'll get no options besides migration data to the new db with
dumps.
> 
>> - why do I need to manage this manually?
>> 
> 
> Default segment size lets you have a db up to 64GB. It is hard to say 
> how
much is it - obviously it depends on db nature. But in average, it seems to
be a good compromise between a "db chunk size" (32KB is not so much to spare
even to keep that additional single byte) and "growing capabilities".
> 
> But if you plan to keep some genome data or lot of pictures, documents 
> and
so on, then, probably 64GB limit is too low - so you should choose bigger
segment size.
> 
> 
>> On 11.03.2012, at 11:21, Ivan Smahin wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a short note about choosing appropriate db's segment size.
>>> 
>>> http://www.valentina-db.com/blog/?p=852
>> 
>> Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards
>> 
>> Trixi Willius
>> 
>> http://www.mothsoftware.com
>> Mail Archiver X: The email archiving solution for professionals
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Valentina mailing list
>> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
>> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Ivan Smahin
> Senior Software Engineer
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
> http://www.valentina-db.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Ivan Smahin
Senior Software Engineer
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:41:26 +0200
From: Ruslan Zasukhin <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
To: "valentina at lists.macserve.net" <valentina at lists.macserve.net>
Subject: Re: Is there an install set for vServer 5?  Or is it v4.9.1?
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On 3/12/12 12:21 AM, "Barry G. Sumpter" <barrysum at bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Hi Barry,

> Is there an install set for vServer 5?
> If there is, where can I download it?
> 
> Or is it v4.9.1?

Do not mix Vserver/5 and Vserver v5

Vserver/5 -- means connections, free

Vserver v5, Vserver v5, Vserver v7  -- means version of product.

> Will my unlimited license for v4 work with v5?

yes

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Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

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