From tf at ttqv.com  Mon Nov  1 03:18:55 2010
From: tf at ttqv.com (Thomas Flemming)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:18:55 +0200
Subject: Vnet 2 Databases with 4.7?
In-Reply-To: <C8F3713B.DF421%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C8F3713B.DF421%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <4CCE77EF.70001@ttqv.com>

Hi Ruslan,

I checked it closer now, and it seems, that my old vdbs are even v.1, because 
I'm using vcom.dll version  v.1.11.0.0 to read them.

So I can just add this v1 vcom to my project, and it will not interfere with 
the vnet v4.7, which is also part of my project?

Regards,
Tom



Am 31.10.2010 18:17, schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin:
> On 10/30/10 3:07 PM, "Thomas Flemming"<tf at ttqv.com>  wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
>> Sorry, I only tried VStudio 4.5 and this says "Cant open database" without
>> further explanation...
>
> * Do you have .vdb ?
>
> * Do you have 4 files for DB or single?
>      if few you can try copy only vdb and open it
>
> * even better idea may be ... Try download Vstudio 2.0
> And open your db using it.
>
> Vstudio will not conflict to you existed 4.x instalation ...
> If it will be then just rename temporary
>      /Program Fiels/Paradigma/ vcomponents  folder
>
> And try start vstudio 2.0 again.
>
>
>
> ** point is:  that v2 format should be understand by 3.x and 4.x ..
>
> Only 1.x format cannot be understood from 4.0 or 4.5
> But 3.x and 4.0 yet should be able work with 1.x
>
> But you say you have 2.0
>
>
>
>> Did you change this recently, is it working now with the recent version?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Am 30.10.2010 13:51, schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin:
>>> On 10/29/10 2:03 PM, "Thomas Flemming"<tf at ttqv.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I need to open and read from Valentina 2.0 Databases.
>>>> There are many of them at our customers and they are big, 500mb-1Gb in size
>>>> containing mainly blobs (bitmaps, map-data)
>>>>
>>>> I dont need do write into the dbs, just read.
>>>>
>>>> What options do I have with VNet 4.7?
>>>>
>>>> - can I install vnet 2.0 additionally on the same computer?
>>>> - can vnet 4.7 just read from these dbs?
>>>> - can vnet 4.7 convert these dbs into the current format?
>>>
>>> And 4.7 cannot open your db ?
>>>
>>> It should be able I think .
>>>
>

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov  1 04:20:49 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:20:49 +0300
Subject: [VSQL] SELECT ... FOR XML  -- produce result ready for use by Flash?
Message-ID: <C8F46121.DF46C%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

Evan Ritchie (Sat, 30 Oct 2010, 03:28PM):
This next question and, hopefully, your answer will most likely save me
hours of re-work....

Using VizionDB I output a query to xml, it looks like this:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<records>
<record>
<field>May 1989</field>
<field>Dennis Chambers</field>
<field>PDFs:md114.pdf</field>
<field>112</field>
</record>
<record>
<field>September 1994</field>
<field>Dennis Chambers</field>
<field>PDFs:md178.pdf</field>
<field>132</field>
</record>
<record>
<field>January 2000</field>
<field>Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.</field>
<field>PDFs:md242.pdf</field>
<field>188</field>
</record>
<record>
<field>December 2002</field>
<field>DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL PERAZZO</field>
<field>PDFs:md277.pdf</field>
<field>180</field>
</record>
</records>

Using Director I caused it to look like this for the purpose of using it in
a Flash list display:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<content>
<item>
<title>May 1989 </title>
<description>Dennis Chambers</description>
<thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md114.jpg</thumbnailPath>
<data>md114.pdf,May 1989,Dennis Chambers,112</data>
</item>
<item>
<title>September 1994 </title>
<description>Dennis Chambers</description>
<thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md178.jpg</thumbnailPath>
<data>md178.pdf,September 1994,Dennis Chambers,132</data>
</item>
<item>
<title>January 2000 </title>
<description>Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.</description>
<thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md242.jpg</thumbnailPath>
<data>md242.pdf,January 2000,Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.,188</data>
</item>
<item>
<title>December 2002 </title>
<description>DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL PERAZZO</description>
<thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md277.jpg</thumbnailPath>
<data>md277.pdf,December 2002,DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL
PERAZZO,180</data>
</item>
</content>

To increase the speed of the query I would like it to go as direct as
possible from the query to output. Any input from you with respect to your
knowledge of this would be outstanding.

I am going to assume a modification of the original database is in order/
changing field names etc. Let me know if I am on the right track with this
thought.

Best,
Evan


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov  1 04:23:02 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:23:02 +0300
Subject: Vnet 2 Databases with 4.7?
In-Reply-To: <4CCE77EF.70001@ttqv.com>
Message-ID: <C8F461A6.DF46F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/1/10 11:18 AM, "Thomas Flemming" <tf at ttqv.com> wrote:

Hi Thomas,

> I checked it closer now, and it seems, that my old vdbs are even v.1, because
> I'm using vcom.dll version  v.1.11.0.0 to read them.
> 
> So I can just add this v1 vcom to my project, and it will not interfere with
> the vnet v4.7, which is also part of my project?

I think yes you can ...

Up to 4.0 or 4.3 (I do not remember exactly), we did have v1 engine inside
of each  ADK > v2

But that v1 engine was used only for Convert_1_2() method.




-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov  1 04:57:53 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:57:53 +0300
Subject: [VSQL] SELECT ... FOR XML  -- produce result ready for use by
	Flash?
In-Reply-To: <C8F46121.DF46C%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <C8F469D1.DF475%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/1/10 12:20 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
wrote:

Hi Evan,

Have you see this page?

http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:vcomponents:vsql:
reference:select:for_xml#join_examples


It seems to me, Valentina do almost same you want for Flash.
    You only need replace <Table name> to <item>

Yes, may be it can be a good idea add more options to ... FOR XML in
Valentina  to be able produce XML in even more flexible way ...

Please add feature request into our Support -> Mantis bug tracker


> Evan Ritchie (Sat, 30 Oct 2010, 03:28PM):
> This next question and, hopefully, your answer will most likely save me
> hours of re-work....

 
> Using VizionDB I output a query to xml, it looks like this:
> 
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <records>
> <record>
> <field>May 1989</field>
> <field>Dennis Chambers</field>
> <field>PDFs:md114.pdf</field>
> <field>112</field>
> </record>
> <record>
> <field>September 1994</field>
> <field>Dennis Chambers</field>
> <field>PDFs:md178.pdf</field>
> <field>132</field>
> </record>
> <record>
> <field>January 2000</field>
> <field>Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.</field>
> <field>PDFs:md242.pdf</field>
> <field>188</field>
> </record>
> <record>
> <field>December 2002</field>
> <field>DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL PERAZZO</field>
> <field>PDFs:md277.pdf</field>
> <field>180</field>
> </record>
> </records>
> 
> Using Director I caused it to look like this for the purpose of using it in
> a Flash list display:
> 
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <content>
> <item>
> <title>May 1989 </title>
> <description>Dennis Chambers</description>
> <thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md114.jpg</thumbnailPath>
> <data>md114.pdf,May 1989,Dennis Chambers,112</data>
> </item>
> <item>
> <title>September 1994 </title>
> <description>Dennis Chambers</description>
> <thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md178.jpg</thumbnailPath>
> <data>md178.pdf,September 1994,Dennis Chambers,132</data>
> </item>
> <item>
> <title>January 2000 </title>
> <description>Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.</description>
> <thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md242.jpg</thumbnailPath>
> <data>md242.pdf,January 2000,Dennis Chambers & Tony Royster Jr.,188</data>
> </item>
> <item>
> <title>December 2002 </title>
> <description>DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL PERAZZO</description>
> <thumbnailPath>Thumbs/md277.jpg</thumbnailPath>
> <data>md277.pdf,December 2002,DENNIS CHAMBERS, RAUL REKOW, KARL
> PERAZZO,180</data>
> </item>
> </content>
> 
> To increase the speed of the query I would like it to go as direct as
> possible from the query to output. Any input from you with respect to your
> knowledge of this would be outstanding.
> 
> I am going to assume a modification of the original database is in order/
> changing field names etc. Let me know if I am on the right track with this
> thought.

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From tf at ttqv.com  Tue Nov  2 13:03:05 2010
From: tf at ttqv.com (Thomas Flemming)
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 20:03:05 +0200
Subject: Vnet 2 Databases with 4.7?
In-Reply-To: <C8F461A6.DF46F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C8F461A6.DF46F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <4CD05259.6040408@ttqv.com>

Hi,


>> I checked it closer now, and it seems, that my old vdbs are even v.1, because
>> I'm using vcom.dll version  v.1.11.0.0 to read them.
>>
>> So I can just add this v1 vcom to my project, and it will not interfere with
>> the vnet v4.7, which is also part of my project?
>
> I think yes you can ...

Yes, I'm done now with this and it works.

Tom


>
> Up to 4.0 or 4.3 (I do not remember exactly), we did have v1 engine inside
> of each  ADK>  v2
>
> But that v1 engine was used only for Convert_1_2() method.
>
>
>
>

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**
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From bwillius at gmx.de  Sat Nov  6 06:02:05 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:02:05 +0100
Subject: Status of Mantis bug 5125
Message-ID: <88B58D96-5845-4CE6-8B6A-37DC48B23998@gmx.de>

Hi gang,

I know I'm annoying, but I would like to know the status of bug 5125. It makes testing of Valentina with RB Cocoa pretty awkward. And Cocoa needs more testing. For instance, I just got a nice crash playing around. But I need to be able to open databases properly before I try to reproduce and report this.

Thread 0 Crashed:  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9034fef6 __kill + 10
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x9034fee8 kill$UNIX2003 + 32
2   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x903e262d raise + 26
3   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x903f86e4 abort + 93
4   libstdc++.6.dylib             	0x97e2ffda __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler() + 433
5   libstdc++.6.dylib             	0x97e2e17a __cxxabiv1::__terminate(void (*)()) + 10
6   libstdc++.6.dylib             	0x97e2e1ba __cxxabiv1::__unexpected(void (*)()) + 0
7   libstdc++.6.dylib             	0x97e2e1ca __cxxabiv1::__unexpected(void (*)()) + 16
8   libstdc++.6.dylib             	0x97e2dc59 __cxa_call_unexpected + 67
9   libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11bc0193 fbl::File_Embedded_OnFile::get_Exists() const + 143
10  libvshared_fat_release.dylib  	0x0c48bad4 fbl::File::Create() + 206
11  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11bbc2d8 fbl::LogicalFile_Imp::Create() + 28
12  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11c9a917 fbl::PageFile::Create() + 33
13  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11f60a40 fbl::Index_Imp::Create() + 74
14  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11f79960 fbl::BuildIndex(fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Field>, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Index>, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::BitSet>) + 1020
15  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11c882d5 fbl::FldStorage::Reindex() + 177
16  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11c5a3f2 fbl::Field_Imp::Reindex() + 20
17  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11caa892 fbl::Table::Reindex() + 96
18  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11e3a2a2 fbl::Database_imp::Reindex() + 124
19  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11f4e627 fbl::vsql::SqlParser::ProceedCommand(fbl::vsql::SqlEnvironment&) + 241
20  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11f4fbbf fbl::vsql::SqlParser::SqlQuery_(fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::vsql::QueryResult>, fbl::vsql::I_SqlDatabaseEx*, fbl::String const&, fbl::vsql::ECursorLocation, fbl::vsql::ELockType, fbl::vsql::ECursorDirection, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::ArrayOfSmartPtrs<fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Value> > >) + 617
21  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11f501da fbl::vsql::SqlParser::SqlQuery(fbl::vsql::I_SqlDatabaseEx*, fbl::String const&, fbl::vsql::ECursorLocation, fbl::vsql::ELockType, fbl::vsql::ECursorDirection, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::ArrayOfSmartPtrs<fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Value> > >) + 168
22  libvkernel_fat_release.dylib  	0x11e317fc fbl::vsql::SqlDatabase::SqlQuery(fbl::String const&, fbl::vsql::ECursorLocation, fbl::vsql::ELockType, fbl::vsql::ECursorDirection, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::ArrayOfSmartPtrs<fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Value> > >) + 130
23  V4RB.rbx_0.dylib              	0x0c3fdf6b Database_SqlExecute(fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::vsql::I_SqlDatabase>, REALstringStruct*, fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::ArrayOfSmartPtrs<fbl::smart_ptr<fbl::I_Value> > >) + 169
24  V4RB.rbx_0.dylib              	0x0c3fe0be Database_SqlExecute_1(REALobjectStruct*, REALstringStruct*) + 188
25  My Application.debug          	0x002700fe VDatabase.SqlExecute%i4%o<VDatabase>s + 80

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
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From andrew at andrewdempsey.com  Sun Nov  7 06:03:05 2010
From: andrew at andrewdempsey.com (Andrew Dempsey)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:03:05 +0200
Subject: VIEW in realbasic object model
Message-ID: <49AD89FC-B643-4679-A39C-1C7F768557B3@andrewdempsey.com>

Can anyone help me on how I create/access a VIEW in the RealStudio object model?  

I had hoped I could create it using an SQL expression, such as for example

call DB.SQLExecute("CREATE VIEW myCheckedItems AS SELECT * FROM checkedItems WHERE ptrUserAccount = 1")

and then access it using the object model.  But I am not sure what to access it as.  I tried DB.Table("myCheckedItems") but that returned nil, and I am not sure what will work. As well as how to create the view in the first place using the object model, not the sql model.

Any help would be appreciated!

Andrew
------------------------------------------------
Andrew Dempsey
andrew at andrewdempsey.com




From ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com  Sun Nov  7 06:23:06 2010
From: ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com (Ivan Smahin)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:23:06 +0200
Subject: VIEW in realbasic object model
In-Reply-To: <49AD89FC-B643-4679-A39C-1C7F768557B3@andrewdempsey.com>
References: <49AD89FC-B643-4679-A39C-1C7F768557B3@andrewdempsey.com>
Message-ID: <15810038542.20101107142306@paradigmasoft.com>

Hello Andrew,

Sunday, November 7, 2010, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:

> Can anyone help me on how I create/access a VIEW in the RealStudio object model?

> I had hoped I could create it using an SQL expression, such as for example

> call DB.SQLExecute("CREATE VIEW myCheckedItems AS SELECT * FROM
> checkedItems WHERE ptrUserAccount = 1")

Yes, correct.

> and then access it using the object model.  But I am not sure what
> to access it as.  I tried DB.Table("myCheckedItems") but that
> returned nil, and I am not sure what will work. As well as how to
> create the view in the first place using the object model, not the sql model.

Currently there is no way to get access to views via API.

But  internally  there are not sort of tables but sort of stored queries
instead.  So you can not do much with it even having ability to get some
object reference.
In other words there are kind of objects from sql-world.

May I ask you to describe why do you need it in this way?


-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Smahin 
Senior Software Engineer
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
http://www.valentina-db.com


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov  7 08:22:46 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:22:46 +0200
Subject: Problem opening database in Cocoa    was:  Re: Missing Response
In-Reply-To: <734B22B0-BB2E-4651-BD03-D02511F7D0EC@steve-albin.com>
Message-ID: <C8FC82D6.DF8EC%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/7/10 3:18 PM, "Steve Albin" <steve at steve-albin.com> wrote:

Hi Steve,
 
> I did report this to Mantis as you requested but there has been no action.  I
> understand that a fix will need to fit in with the release schedule and I'm
> fine with that, but it would be useful to me if I knew that someone reviewed
> and confirmed the bug that I see.  If it is possible that the bug is not in
> Valentina, I can pursue this with REAL.  But at this time, I don't know
> anything.
> 
> <http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/view.php?id=5125>
> 
> Do you automatically get notice of these reports?  Or should I have notified
> you separately that I reported it?

Yes we have see bug reports.
Busy for now on other tasks.

Lets hope next week we will be able check this.

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From bwillius at gmx.de  Sun Nov  7 08:36:14 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:36:14 +0100
Subject: Problem opening database in Cocoa    was:  Re: Missing Response
In-Reply-To: <C8FC82D6.DF8EC%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C8FC82D6.DF8EC%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <31E1864F-2A92-461E-9629-FA58CE4E5606@gmx.de>

Very good. Thanks for the feedback.

Am 07.11.2010 um 15:22 schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin:

> Yes we have see bug reports.
> Busy for now on other tasks.
> 
> Lets hope next week we will be able check this.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
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http://www.beatrixwillius.de
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From andrew at andrewdempsey.com  Sun Nov  7 08:38:20 2010
From: andrew at andrewdempsey.com (Andrew Dempsey)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:38:20 +0200
Subject: VIEW in realbasic object model
In-Reply-To: <15810038542.20101107142306@paradigmasoft.com>
References: <49AD89FC-B643-4679-A39C-1C7F768557B3@andrewdempsey.com>
	<15810038542.20101107142306@paradigmasoft.com>
Message-ID: <A87E49B7-CC34-45A8-8266-99A07344BA84@andrewdempsey.com>

Thanks Ivan for your fast response.

I was curious to see whether I could modify a previous app I had put together that used the API approach, to be able to take custom SQL statements from the user and implement them... without having to redo much of my existing code.

The functional equivalent of an SQL View seems to be a VCursor, and the VCursor is nice to work with in the API.  So I will do some re-writing of my code and see where it goes.

------------------------------------------------
Andrew Dempsey
andrew at andrewdempsey.com



On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote:

> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Sunday, November 7, 2010, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone help me on how I create/access a VIEW in the RealStudio object model?
> 
>> I had hoped I could create it using an SQL expression, such as for example
> 
>> call DB.SQLExecute("CREATE VIEW myCheckedItems AS SELECT * FROM
>> checkedItems WHERE ptrUserAccount = 1")
> 
> Yes, correct.
> 
>> and then access it using the object model.  But I am not sure what
>> to access it as.  I tried DB.Table("myCheckedItems") but that
>> returned nil, and I am not sure what will work. As well as how to
>> create the view in the first place using the object model, not the sql model.
> 
> Currently there is no way to get access to views via API.
> 
> But  internally  there are not sort of tables but sort of stored queries
> instead.  So you can not do much with it even having ability to get some
> object reference.
> In other words there are kind of objects from sql-world.
> 
> May I ask you to describe why do you need it in this way?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Ivan Smahin 
> Senior Software Engineer
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
> http://www.valentina-db.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
> 


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov  7 11:59:04 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:59:04 +0200
Subject: VIEW in realbasic object model
In-Reply-To: <A87E49B7-CC34-45A8-8266-99A07344BA84@andrewdempsey.com>
Message-ID: <C8FCB588.DF911%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/7/10 4:38 PM, "Andrew Dempsey" <andrew at andrewdempsey.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Well, about 10 years ago I was sure that Valentina will not have views,
because I did plan to have inheritance, as much more powerful feature.

Later we decide, since we are Object-Relational DBMS, then we need support
all common RDBMS features plus something more.


> Thanks Ivan for your fast response.
> 
> I was curious to see whether I could modify a previous app I had put together
> that used the API approach, to be able to take custom SQL statements from the
> user and implement them... without having to redo much of my existing code.
> 
> The functional equivalent of an SQL View seems to be a VCursor, and the
> VCursor is nice to work with in the API.  So I will do some re-writing of my
> code and see where it goes.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> Andrew Dempsey
> andrew at andrewdempsey.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> Sunday, November 7, 2010, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>>> Can anyone help me on how I create/access a VIEW in the RealStudio object
>>> model?
>> 
>>> I had hoped I could create it using an SQL expression, such as for example
>> 
>>> call DB.SQLExecute("CREATE VIEW myCheckedItems AS SELECT * FROM
>>> checkedItems WHERE ptrUserAccount = 1")
>> 
>> Yes, correct.
>> 
>>> and then access it using the object model.  But I am not sure what
>>> to access it as.  I tried DB.Table("myCheckedItems") but that
>>> returned nil, and I am not sure what will work. As well as how to
>>> create the view in the first place using the object model, not the sql
>>> model.
>> 
>> Currently there is no way to get access to views via API.
>> 
>> But  internally  there are not sort of tables but sort of stored queries
>> instead.  So you can not do much with it even having ability to get some
>> object reference.
>> In other words there are kind of objects from sql-world.
>> 
>> May I ask you to describe why do you need it in this way?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Ivan Smahin 
>> Senior Software Engineer
>> Paradigma Software, Inc
>> Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
>> http://www.valentina-db.com


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From andrew at andrewdempsey.com  Sun Nov  7 12:30:11 2010
From: andrew at andrewdempsey.com (Andrew Dempsey)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:30:11 +0200
Subject: VIEW in realbasic object model
In-Reply-To: <C8FCB588.DF911%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C8FCB588.DF911%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <2D654334-EBE9-42BD-A96A-211C4051F8E0@andrewdempsey.com>

Interesting!
------------------------------------------------
Andrew Dempsey
andrew at andrewdempsey.com



On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> On 11/7/10 4:38 PM, "Andrew Dempsey" <andrew at andrewdempsey.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Well, about 10 years ago I was sure that Valentina will not have views,
> because I did plan to have inheritance, as much more powerful feature.
> 
> Later we decide, since we are Object-Relational DBMS, then we need support
> all common RDBMS features plus something more.
> 
> 
>> Thanks Ivan for your fast response.
>> 
>> I was curious to see whether I could modify a previous app I had put together
>> that used the API approach, to be able to take custom SQL statements from the
>> user and implement them... without having to redo much of my existing code.
>> 
>> The functional equivalent of an SQL View seems to be a VCursor, and the
>> VCursor is nice to work with in the API.  So I will do some re-writing of my
>> code and see where it goes.
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Dempsey
>> andrew at andrewdempsey.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>> 
>>> Sunday, November 7, 2010, 2:03:05 PM, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Can anyone help me on how I create/access a VIEW in the RealStudio object
>>>> model?
>>> 
>>>> I had hoped I could create it using an SQL expression, such as for example
>>> 
>>>> call DB.SQLExecute("CREATE VIEW myCheckedItems AS SELECT * FROM
>>>> checkedItems WHERE ptrUserAccount = 1")
>>> 
>>> Yes, correct.
>>> 
>>>> and then access it using the object model.  But I am not sure what
>>>> to access it as.  I tried DB.Table("myCheckedItems") but that
>>>> returned nil, and I am not sure what will work. As well as how to
>>>> create the view in the first place using the object model, not the sql
>>>> model.
>>> 
>>> Currently there is no way to get access to views via API.
>>> 
>>> But  internally  there are not sort of tables but sort of stored queries
>>> instead.  So you can not do much with it even having ability to get some
>>> object reference.
>>> In other words there are kind of objects from sql-world.
>>> 
>>> May I ask you to describe why do you need it in this way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ivan Smahin 
>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>> Paradigma Software, Inc
>>> Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
>>> http://www.valentina-db.com
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
> 


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov  7 23:39:49 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 07:39:49 +0200
Subject: New comment from Evan Ritchie
In-Reply-To: <e99f23072e614794c5aa81e41a752f70@www.valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <C8FD59C5.DF95E%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/8/10 2:57 AM, "Valentina Ticket" <info at valentina-db.com> wrote:

Hi Evan,

Once again, please subscribe to Valentina list, and ask such general
questions on list.

I think you asking about UPDATE WHERE command ?

http://valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:vcomponents:vsql:refe
rence:reference 

> In an entire Column/ Field I need to find and replace these file names:<br />
> <br />
> From:<br />
> <br />
> PDFs:md1.pdf<br />
> PDFs:md2.pdf<br />
> PDFs;md3.pdf<br />
> ...<br />
> <br />
> <br />
> <br />
> md1.pdf<br />
> md2.pdf<br />
> md3.pdf<br />
> ...<br />
> <br />
> Since I could not find this capability inside of Valentina ProI have exported
> this Column/ Field as tab delimited text. I performed this function of finding
> and replacing names within Director and would like to re-import this change
> into the existing Column/ Field, in the present database, in the same location
> as the previous names. Is there a technique for this within Valentina?
> -- 
> A new comment has been added by Evan Ritchie on Paradigma Software - Valentina
> Database. 
> 
>  To view this comment, click here:
> http://www.valentina-db.com/index.php?option=com_billets&controller=ticket&tas
> k=view&id=165 
> 
>  You may be required to login to your account.
> 
> -- 
>  Paradigma Software - Valentina Database
>  http://www.valentina-db.com/
> 

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com  Fri Nov 12 05:08:42 2010
From: ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com (Ivan Smahin)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:08:42 +0200
Subject: [INFO] vPHP and binded values
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1289563783.7132.valentina@lists.macserve.net>

Hello Danny,

  Just for info...

  PHP
  ------

  There are new features in the current build:

  Currently you may pass as binded values following things:
        ? NULLs
        ? Bools, longs, doubles, strings
        ? Arrays (we will concat all elements in a single string value)
        ? IS_OBJECT which must be php_vbinary_value - no idea how to get such object in PHP
        
  Examples:

  // Load binary content and write it as a Picture and as a BLOB to the db.
  $filename = "WallPaperHD - 146.jpg";
  $handle = fopen($filename, "rb");
  $filecontents = fread($handle, filesize($filename));
  fclose($handle);

  // Array of lines. - can be used to make a binded value representing text of file
  // But better do the same as above (for binary file)
  $fileAsArray = file('test.txt');


  // Creating array with binding values
  $binds_array = array( 25, 2020, "Smith Jones Binded", $filecontents, $fileAsArray , NULL);

  valentina_query("INSERT INTO ".test_table." (age, salary, name, test1, test2, v) VALUES(:1, :2, :3, :4, :5, :6)", $binds_array) or
        die( "insert statement crashed!");


  PDO
  ------

  How to pass nulls as binded value.

  Example:

  $name = "Frost";
  $sql = "INSERT INTO Person (Name, Age ) VALUES (?, ?)";
  $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
  $sth->bindValue(1 , $name, PDO::PARAM_STR);
  $sth->bindValue(2 , NULL,  PDO::PARAM_NULL);
  $sth->execute();

  Actually it concats the string to be:
  INSERT INTO Person (Name, Age ) VALUES ('Frost', NULL)
  And pass it to the engine.



-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Smahin 
Senior Software Engineer
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
http://www.valentina-db.com



From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Sat Nov 13 06:29:02 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 08:29:02 -0400
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
Message-ID: <AANLkTimKrq8OyrfbVw6Adqy1jjKHUUA94_AVr8pmROVx@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Can someone help me by replying with RunRev/LiveCode example code for
switching two Valentina databases. I imagine it would access vServer, tell
it to close running database properly and then open the other oner, perhaps
with a file dialogue that you can choose from.

Thanks for helping. I wish that there was a repository of RunRev/LiveCode
example code somewhere.

Bill
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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sat Nov 20 01:59:07 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:59:07 +0200
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimKrq8OyrfbVw6Adqy1jjKHUUA94_AVr8pmROVx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90D4C6B.E0407%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/13/10 2:29 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

Hi William,

> Can someone help me by replying with RunRev/LiveCode example code for
> switching two Valentina databases. I imagine it would access vServer, tell it
> to close running database properly and then open the other oner, perhaps with
> a file dialogue that you can choose from.

Not  sure I have catch question.

In Valentina you can open few dbs at the same time

    db1 = 
    db2 = 


Then use them

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From email at sigwx.de  Sat Nov 20 08:14:25 2010
From: email at sigwx.de (Andreas Mellin)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:14:25 +0100
Subject: V-Studio 4.5 is corrupting a Database when creating Tables
Message-ID: <4CE7D7C1.5070105@sigwx.de>

  Dear all,

I've just killed a database, after creating a new table named "?sel 
Dr?sel", using Valentina Studio 4.5 build 23.04.2010, 22:19:25. It is 
not possible to open, or delete the table. Any ideas?

Andreas

From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Sat Nov 20 08:34:29 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:34:29 -0400
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
In-Reply-To: <C90D4C6B.E0407%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTimKrq8OyrfbVw6Adqy1jjKHUUA94_AVr8pmROVx@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90D4C6B.E0407%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4kh3tPEKhDRMN-vEKxKdOgjYWQ3BV3-Q0QVX3@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Ruslan but I to be more clear.

Using RunRev/LiveCode application I have a vServer database which populates
the cards with design specific data. I don't want to have another database
open with different data and tables. I want to be able to close the specific
database that is open and open another one that has the same schema but
different data.

For example:

FruitDatabase
Table Citrus
data: apple, orange, grapefruit

FruitDatabasetwo
Table Citrus
data: apple, lime, melon

I want to while inside the RunRev/LiveCode application close the
FruitDatabase that I am accessing and open the FruitDatabasetwo and access
that instead.

Thanks,

Bill

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/13/10 2:29 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> > Can someone help me by replying with RunRev/LiveCode example code for
> > switching two Valentina databases. I imagine it would access vServer,
> tell it
> > to close running database properly and then open the other oner, perhaps
> with
> > a file dialogue that you can choose from.
>
> Not  sure I have catch question.
>
> In Valentina you can open few dbs at the same time
>
>    db1 =
>    db2 =
>
>
> Then use them
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>



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From thohage at genericobjects.de  Sat Nov 20 09:28:29 2010
From: thohage at genericobjects.de (Thorsten Hohage)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:28:29 +0100
Subject: V-Studio 4.5 is corrupting a Database when creating Tables
In-Reply-To: <4CE7D7C1.5070105@sigwx.de>
References: <4CE7D7C1.5070105@sigwx.de>
Message-ID: <B4CD7333-6CE1-46F2-ACC4-50954C14C0CB@genericobjects.de>

Hi,

On 2010-11-20, at 15:14, Andreas Mellin wrote:

> I've just killed a database, after creating a new table named "?sel Dr?sel", using Valentina Studio 4.5 build 23.04.2010, 22:19:25. It is not possible to open, or delete the table. Any ideas?


it is a "known issue" that it is very hard, if not impossible to use Umlauts in any "object" (table, view, field, ...) names. It should be with many, many preliminaries possible to use in code, but it is for sure not possible to be used with VStudio.


Perhaps you shold add a note to this bug issue

	<http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/view.php?id=4804>


regards,

Thorsten Hohage
-- 

Valentina Technology Evangelist
generic objects  GmbH - Leiter Solution Center Nord


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sat Nov 20 11:33:13 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:33:13 +0200
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4kh3tPEKhDRMN-vEKxKdOgjYWQ3BV3-Q0QVX3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90DD2F9.E042E%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/20/10 4:34 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

Hi William,

> Thank you Ruslan but I to be more clear.
> 
> Using RunRev/LiveCode application I have a vServer database which populates
> the cards with design specific data. I don't want to have another database
> open with different data and tables. I want to be able to close the specific
> database that is open and open another one that has the same schema but
> different data.
> 
> For example:
> 
> FruitDatabase
> Table Citrus
> data: apple, orange, grapefruit
> 
> FruitDatabasetwo
> Table Citrus
> data: apple, lime, melon
> 
> I want to while inside the RunRev/LiveCode application close the FruitDatabase
> that I am accessing and open the FruitDatabasetwo and access that instead.

Okay, so what problems?

You have 
    VDatabase_Close( dbRef )

Then
    dbRef = VDatabase_Open( " FruitDatabaseTwo" )


And do the same 


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Sat Nov 20 12:38:49 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:38:49 -0400
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
In-Reply-To: <C90DD2F9.E042E%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTik4kh3tPEKhDRMN-vEKxKdOgjYWQ3BV3-Q0QVX3@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90DD2F9.E042E%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4e526Js+jXA9qVswfGSNQEvjjtqbUQxCPp2DC@mail.gmail.com>

No problem. I'll build it. What I was wishing for is code libraries for
common functions like that in RunRev/Livecode. It is something that I can
ask on the LiveCode list but not here.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/20/10 4:34 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> > Thank you Ruslan but I to be more clear.
> >
> > Using RunRev/LiveCode application I have a vServer database which
> populates
> > the cards with design specific data. I don't want to have another
> database
> > open with different data and tables. I want to be able to close the
> specific
> > database that is open and open another one that has the same schema but
> > different data.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > FruitDatabase
> > Table Citrus
> > data: apple, orange, grapefruit
> >
> > FruitDatabasetwo
> > Table Citrus
> > data: apple, lime, melon
> >
> > I want to while inside the RunRev/LiveCode application close the
> FruitDatabase
> > that I am accessing and open the FruitDatabasetwo and access that
> instead.
>
> Okay, so what problems?
>
> You have
>    VDatabase_Close( dbRef )
>
> Then
>    dbRef = VDatabase_Open( " FruitDatabaseTwo" )
>
>
> And do the same
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>



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From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sat Nov 20 15:57:45 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:57:45 -0600
Subject: Delete Record - Valentina / RunRev
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPcodxNQEWcwXOtUtoRH0ZyaXbyO-86FzB7LV6@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to delete a record and am getting the following "Wrong ref for
tblRef' in my log.  What is this telling me as the same table works as a
select a few lines down in the log.

Here is my delete statement:

*put* Vtable_DeleteRecord(fDatabase,"Delete FROM Favorites where KeywordF =
'" & tLine & "'")

*get* vDatabase_Flush(fDatabase)

My log....
VTable_DeleteRecord...
 PARAM: tblRef = "53415400"
ERROR: Wrong ref for "tblRef"

return None

VDatabase_Flush...
 PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
return

VDatabase_SqlSelect...
 PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
 PARAM: inStrQuery = "SELECT Termf FROM Favorites where KeywordF = 'test2j'
Order by TermF"
return res = 53415512
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From email at sigwx.de  Sat Nov 20 16:36:27 2010
From: email at sigwx.de (Andreas Mellin)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:36:27 +0100
Subject: V-Studio 4.5 is corrupting a Database when creating Tables
In-Reply-To: <B4CD7333-6CE1-46F2-ACC4-50954C14C0CB@genericobjects.de>
References: <4CE7D7C1.5070105@sigwx.de>
	<B4CD7333-6CE1-46F2-ACC4-50954C14C0CB@genericobjects.de>
Message-ID: <4CE84D6B.4090300@sigwx.de>

  Moin Moin,

Am 20.11.2010 16:28, schrieb Thorsten Hohage:
> Hi,
>
> On 2010-11-20, at 15:14, Andreas Mellin wrote:
>
>> I've just killed a database, after creating a new table named "?sel Dr?sel", using Valentina Studio 4.5 build 23.04.2010, 22:19:25. It is not possible to open, or delete the table. Any ideas?
>
> it is a "known issue" that it is very hard, if not impossible to use Umlauts in any "object" (table, view, field, ...) names. It should be with many, many preliminaries possible to use in code, but it is for sure not possible to be used with VStudio.
>
>
> Perhaps you shold add a note to this bug issue
>
> 	<http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/view.php?id=4804>
>
Thanks, for reply. Good to know, because it is my first approach to 
Valentina.

Andreas




From bwillius at gmx.de  Sun Nov 21 01:04:20 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:04:20 +0100
Subject: Upgrade offer
Message-ID: <0A7039B4-E93E-4F90-87F9-07F3F4132169@gmx.de>

Hi Valentina guys,

yesterday I got this odd mail from Valentina pr (kilometers long image just with a Valentina logo and a blue background) with an upgrade offer. My own "subscription" hasn't expired. But will I get a reminder for my poor old brain so that I won't forget this?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 02:31:04 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:31:04 +0200
Subject: Mac OS RunRev/LiveCode vOffice switching between two databases
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik4e526Js+jXA9qVswfGSNQEvjjtqbUQxCPp2DC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90EA568.E04B3%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/20/10 8:38 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

> No problem. I'll build it. What I was wishing for is code libraries for common
> functions like that in RunRev/Livecode. It is something that I can ask on the
> LiveCode list but not here.

I do not think that should be such functions at all William,

This is not common basic needs for each db-oriented code.

Such task should be implemented on your own

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 02:33:30 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:33:30 +0200
Subject: Delete Record - Valentina / RunRev
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPcodxNQEWcwXOtUtoRH0ZyaXbyO-86FzB7LV6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90EA5FA.E04B4%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/20/10 11:57 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Warren,

You write not correct here.

If you want to use SQL command
            " Delete FROM Favorites where KeywordF = xxx "

Then you should use
        VDatabase_SqlExecute( dbRef, commandStr )





> I am trying to delete a record and am getting the following "Wrong ref for
> tblRef' in my log.? What is this telling me as the same table works as a
> select a few lines down in the log.
> ?
> Here is my delete statement:
> ?
> put Vtable_DeleteRecord(fDatabase,"Delete FROM Favorites where KeywordF = '" &
> tLine & "'")
> get vDatabase_Flush(fDatabase)
> 
> My log....
> 
> VTable_DeleteRecord...
> ?PARAM: tblRef = "53415400"
> ERROR: Wrong ref for "tblRef"
> return None

Right, because

Vtable_DeleteRecord()  requires as first parameter
    not dbRef but tblRef.


 
> VDatabase_Flush...
> ?PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
> return
> 
> VDatabase_SqlSelect...
> ?PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
> ?PARAM: inStrQuery = "SELECT Termf FROM Favorites where KeywordF = 'test2j'
> Order by TermF"
> return res = 53415512

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 03:46:08 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:46:08 +0200
Subject: Upgrade offer
In-Reply-To: <0A7039B4-E93E-4F90-87F9-07F3F4132169@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <C90EB700.E04C1%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/21/10 9:04 AM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

Hi Beatrix,

> yesterday I got this odd mail from Valentina pr (kilometers long image just
> with a Valentina logo and a blue background) with an upgrade offer. My own
> "subscription" hasn't expired. But will I get a reminder for my poor old brain
> so that I won't forget this?

And Later

> And will I be sent a mail before my subscription expires? At least in Real
> Studio I'm reminded every time I start the app.

And this reminder starts to work  e.g. 30 days before it expire ...
I see


Well, I think we can easy add this feature to Vstudio.
And into ADKs also ... not as dialog but as first lines into V4RB debug log
..

And even if this debug log is OFF, but ADK see that expire soon,
It can self still produce LOG file with notification.

Yes this is possible.
Thank you for idea.


Also, we did some system in online store, which will send reminder letters,
but it was not finished it seems to me.



-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From jda at his.com  Sun Nov 21 06:34:57 2010
From: jda at his.com (jda)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 07:34:57 -0500
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
Message-ID: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>

Ruslan, I've had messages bounce from this list and so was sending emails to your own email address. But now I'm not getting emails from that address, either. Did you receive the one I sent yesterday about the database that suddenly became enormous?

Jon

From bwillius at gmx.de  Sun Nov 21 09:18:46 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:18:46 +0100
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
References: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
Message-ID: <AD004C8D-FE88-4EA8-8792-650D785EA182@gmx.de>

This list has been down at least 2 times. And at the moment it seems pretty quiet.

On 21.11.2010, at 13:34, jda wrote:

> Ruslan, I've had messages bounce from this list and so was sending emails to your own email address. But now I'm not getting emails from that address, either. Did you receive the one I sent yesterday about the database that suddenly became enormous?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 09:34:14 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:34:14 -0600
Subject: Delete Record - Valentina / RunRev
In-Reply-To: <C90EA5FA.E04B4%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTimPcodxNQEWcwXOtUtoRH0ZyaXbyO-86FzB7LV6@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90EA5FA.E04B4%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGSo3GQh8ycW_Wurp64mRhBi4a=2pga6fNeWf6@mail.gmail.com>

Ruslan,

Thanks....stupid mistake on my part.  Your example provided works as
expected.

Thanks for your help!
Warren

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/20/10 11:57 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Warren,
>
> You write not correct here.
>
> If you want to use SQL command
>            " Delete FROM Favorites where KeywordF = xxx "
>
> Then you should use
>        VDatabase_SqlExecute( dbRef, commandStr )
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am trying to delete a record and am getting the following "Wrong ref
> for
> > tblRef' in my log.  What is this telling me as the same table works as a
> > select a few lines down in the log.
> >
> > Here is my delete statement:
> >
> > put Vtable_DeleteRecord(fDatabase,"Delete FROM Favorites where KeywordF =
> '" &
> > tLine & "'")
> > get vDatabase_Flush(fDatabase)
> >
> > My log....
> >
> > VTable_DeleteRecord...
> >  PARAM: tblRef = "53415400"
> > ERROR: Wrong ref for "tblRef"
> > return None
>
> Right, because
>
> Vtable_DeleteRecord()  requires as first parameter
>    not dbRef but tblRef.
>
>
>
> > VDatabase_Flush...
> >  PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
> > return
> >
> > VDatabase_SqlSelect...
> >  PARAM: dbRef = "53415400"
> >  PARAM: inStrQuery = "SELECT Termf FROM Favorites where KeywordF =
> 'test2j'
> > Order by TermF"
> > return res = 53415512
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>
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From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 09:51:25 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:51:25 -0600
Subject: Create Unique Index On Multiple Fields
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6Rwf-q_G5AHtqnUtbWoZsC93szfjWknV9eA8j@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to create a unique index on two fields (both fields together
have to be unique).  How do I do this in Valentina Studio.  I see how to
make each field unique...just not sure how to combine them.

Thanks,
Warren
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From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 11:37:56 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:37:56 -0600
Subject: Create Unique Index
Message-ID: <AANLkTinc48Rs_VPVvue5=xWrLvRTAUxW3ppXOWZxbdDT@mail.gmail.com>

I have a table called table1 and want to create a unique index (called
index1) with the fields - field1 and field2.  What is the snytax?

I am trying:

CREATE [UNIQUE] INDEX index1 ON table1 (field1,field2)

I get the error:

11:24:19 AM Kernel error: 0x71000. line 1:15: expecting "database", found
'UNIQUE'

Thanks,
Warren
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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 11:49:04 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:49:04 +0200
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
Message-ID: <C90F2830.E04EA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/21/10 2:34 PM, "jda" <jda at his.com> wrote:

> Ruslan, I've had messages bounce from this list and so was sending emails to
> your own email address. But now I'm not getting emails from that address,
> either. Did you receive the one I sent yesterday about the database that
> suddenly became enormous?

Hi Jon,

Yes, today Ivan should did work with your db
I don't know yet results.

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 11:52:06 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:52:06 +0200
Subject: Create Unique Index On Multiple Fields
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6Rwf-q_G5AHtqnUtbWoZsC93szfjWknV9eA8j@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90F28E6.E04EE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/21/10 5:51 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am trying to create a unique index on two fields (both fields together have
> to be unique).? How do I do this in Valentina Studio.? I see how to make each
> field unique...just not sure how to combine them.

Hi Waren,

You can solve this task in Valentina using very powerful concept
    Table Methods

Also known as calculated field in FileMaker.


In WIKI exists description of all this ideas.

In short, you create method in the same way as a field in table.
Then you define some Expression on that 2 fields.
Then mark METHOD field to be indexed and unique.


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Sun Nov 21 12:00:08 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:00:08 +0200
Subject: Create Unique Index
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinc48Rs_VPVvue5=xWrLvRTAUxW3ppXOWZxbdDT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C90F2AC8.E04F0%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/21/10 7:37 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a table called table1 and want to create a unique index (called index1)
> with the fields - field1 and field2.? What is the snytax?
> ?
> I am trying:
> ?
> CREATE [UNIQUE] INDEX?index1 ON table1 (field1,field2)
> ?
> I get the error:
> ?
> 11:24:19 AM Kernel error: 0x71000. line 1:15: expecting "database", found
> 'UNIQUE'

Valentina not supports such syntax directly.

Btw, what field types ?


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 12:07:08 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:07:08 -0600
Subject: Create Unique Index On Multiple Fields
In-Reply-To: <C90F28E6.E04EE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTik6Rwf-q_G5AHtqnUtbWoZsC93szfjWknV9eA8j@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90F28E6.E04EE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=qco+35-YEFXOPijsicB8WRoA4tJXzxBucfkWO@mail.gmail.com>

Ruslan,

Thanks....I will give this a try.  Thanks again for your help!

Warren

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

>  On 11/21/10 5:51 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to create a unique index on two fields (both fields together
> have
> > to be unique).  How do I do this in Valentina Studio.  I see how to make
> each
> > field unique...just not sure how to combine them.
>
> Hi Waren,
>
> You can solve this task in Valentina using very powerful concept
>    Table Methods
>
> Also known as calculated field in FileMaker.
>
>
> In WIKI exists description of all this ideas.
>
> In short, you create method in the same way as a field in table.
> Then you define some Expression on that 2 fields.
> Then mark METHOD field to be indexed and unique.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>
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From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 12:29:05 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:29:05 -0600
Subject: Create Unique Index On Multiple Fields
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=qco+35-YEFXOPijsicB8WRoA4tJXzxBucfkWO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6Rwf-q_G5AHtqnUtbWoZsC93szfjWknV9eA8j@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90F28E6.E04EE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<AANLkTi=qco+35-YEFXOPijsicB8WRoA4tJXzxBucfkWO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOubgyjBvk8zM2FO29Ozu3qKfxFY4j4RaYkSzx@mail.gmail.com>

Ruslan,

I am on the 'create field or method' box.  I selected VarChar with a unique
flag.  I assume I click the Method radio button.  In the text box, what is
the syntax to combine two fields?

Warren

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Warren Kuhl <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ruslan,
>
> Thanks....I will give this a try.  Thanks again for your help!
>
> Warren
>
>   On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
> ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:
>
>>  On 11/21/10 5:51 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I am trying to create a unique index on two fields (both fields together
>> have
>> > to be unique).  How do I do this in Valentina Studio.  I see how to make
>> each
>> > field unique...just not sure how to combine them.
>>
>> Hi Waren,
>>
>> You can solve this task in Valentina using very powerful concept
>>    Table Methods
>>
>> Also known as calculated field in FileMaker.
>>
>>
>> In WIKI exists description of all this ideas.
>>
>> In short, you create method in the same way as a field in table.
>> Then you define some Expression on that 2 fields.
>> Then mark METHOD field to be indexed and unique.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ruslan Zasukhin
>> VP Engineering and New Technology
>> Paradigma Software, Inc
>>
>> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>>
>> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Valentina mailing list
>> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
>> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>>
>
>
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From warrenkuhl at gmail.com  Sun Nov 21 18:39:59 2010
From: warrenkuhl at gmail.com (Warren Kuhl)
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:39:59 -0600
Subject: Create Unique Index On Multiple Fields
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinOubgyjBvk8zM2FO29Ozu3qKfxFY4j4RaYkSzx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6Rwf-q_G5AHtqnUtbWoZsC93szfjWknV9eA8j@mail.gmail.com>
	<C90F28E6.E04EE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<AANLkTi=qco+35-YEFXOPijsicB8WRoA4tJXzxBucfkWO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinOubgyjBvk8zM2FO29Ozu3qKfxFY4j4RaYkSzx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimya108vg4yxdgwTeuROXJRiPhX1Ri8vm48M4bT@mail.gmail.com>

I actually figured it out...just concat both of the fields in the method.
Everything is working great now.

Warren

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Warren Kuhl <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ruslan,
>
> I am on the 'create field or method' box.  I selected VarChar with a unique
> flag.  I assume I click the Method radio button.  In the text box, what is
> the syntax to combine two fields?
>
> Warren
>
>   On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Warren Kuhl <warrenkuhl at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ruslan,
>>
>> Thanks....I will give this a try.  Thanks again for your help!
>>
>> Warren
>>
>>   On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
>> ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  On 11/21/10 5:51 PM, "Warren Kuhl" <warrenkuhl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I am trying to create a unique index on two fields (both fields
>>> together have
>>> > to be unique).  How do I do this in Valentina Studio.  I see how to
>>> make each
>>> > field unique...just not sure how to combine them.
>>>
>>> Hi Waren,
>>>
>>> You can solve this task in Valentina using very powerful concept
>>>    Table Methods
>>>
>>> Also known as calculated field in FileMaker.
>>>
>>>
>>> In WIKI exists description of all this ideas.
>>>
>>> In short, you create method in the same way as a field in table.
>>> Then you define some Expression on that 2 fields.
>>> Then mark METHOD field to be indexed and unique.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Ruslan Zasukhin
>>> VP Engineering and New Technology
>>> Paradigma Software, Inc
>>>
>>> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
>>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>>>
>>> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Valentina mailing list
>>> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
>>> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>>>
>>
>>
>
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From rjb at robelko.com  Mon Nov 22 04:03:15 2010
From: rjb at robelko.com (Robert Brenstein)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:03:15 +0100
Subject: Upgrade offer
In-Reply-To: <C90EB700.E04C1%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C90EB700.E04C1%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <p06240804c90fefea15da@[192.168.1.94]>

On 21.11.2010 at 11:46 Uhr +0200 Ruslan Zasukhin apparently wrote:
>Well, I think we can easy add this feature to Vstudio.
>And into ADKs also ... not as dialog but as first lines into V4RB debug log
>..
>
>And even if this debug log is OFF, but ADK see that expire soon,
>It can self still produce LOG file with notification.
>
>Yes this is possible.
>Thank you for idea.
>
>
>Also, we did some system in online store, which will send reminder letters,
>but it was not finished it seems to me.


I think the most important reminders would be exactly emails from the 
online store.

Robert

From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 22 05:03:09 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:03:09 +0100
Subject: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
Message-ID: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>

Hello,

I just migrated on my Windows 7 machine with Revolution / LiveCode from
Valentina 3.5.2 to 4.7.

Running the IDE, nothing unusual.

Running the standalone works just normal, but always after approx 10 min I
get an error and I have to quit my app:

Database could not be read. SELECT .

Err 365832 File "UNKNOWN" - is read only

-          I didn't changed anything in my app, it worked just this way in
3.5.2 and only changed the Valentina files

-          My db file has "read only" as a file attribute

-          My App reads only my db file, no updates, no new records

-          The error always comes up after about 10 min, as after a
demo-period

-          What does Valentina wants to say with file "UNKNOWN"?

 

Any ideas, what has broken in 4.7? What to check?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 22 05:03:36 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:03:36 +0200
Subject: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>
Message-ID: <C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/22/10 1:03 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

Hi Tiemo,

> I just migrated on my Windows 7 machine with Revolution / LiveCode from
> Valentina 3.5.2 to 4.7.
> Running the IDE, nothing unusual.
> Running the standalone works just normal, but always after approx 10 min I get
> an error and I have to quit my app:
> Database could not be read. SELECT ?
> Err 365832 File ?UNKNOWN? ? is read only
> -         I didn?t changed anything in my app, it worked just this way in
> 3.5.2 and only changed the Valentina files
> 
> -         My db file has ?read only? as a file attribute
> 
> -         My App reads only my db file, no updates, no new records
> 
> -         The error always comes up after about 10 min, as after a demo-period
> 
> -         What does Valentina wants to say with file ?UNKNOWN??
> 
>  
> Any ideas, what has broken in 4.7? What to check?

Well, 

10 min timeout means that it works in DEMO mode.
Your serial was not accepted.

Is it expired ?




-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 22 05:18:20 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:18:20 +0100
Subject: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>
	<C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <008001cb8a36$fb7420f0$f25c62d0$@de>

Hello Ruslan,

I got new license numbers on 21.07.2010 (just to migrate to 4.7), so they
shouldn't be expired.

And do you think a Demo-Mode could produce this error? As far as I have
experienced it in the past, it produces an error with "Demo mode" text.


> >
> > Any ideas, what has broken in 4.7? What to check?
> 
> Well,
> 
> 10 min timeout means that it works in DEMO mode.
> Your serial was not accepted.
> 
> Is it expired ?
> 


From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 22 07:40:20 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:40:20 +0100
Subject: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <008001cb8a36$fb7420f0$f25c62d0$@de>
References: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>	<C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<008001cb8a36$fb7420f0$f25c62d0$@de>
Message-ID: <00a601cb8a4a$d36d26b0$7a477410$@de>

Are there any other build in conditions, when Valentina could run in
Demo-Mode with a valid license?
Thanks
Tiemo


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-
> bounces at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 12:18
> An: 'Valentina Developers'
> Betreff: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
> 
> Hello Ruslan,
> 
> I got new license numbers on 21.07.2010 (just to migrate to 4.7), so
> they
> shouldn't be expired.
> 
> And do you think a Demo-Mode could produce this error? As far as I have
> experienced it in the past, it produces an error with "Demo mode" text.
> 
> 
> > >
> > > Any ideas, what has broken in 4.7? What to check?
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > 10 min timeout means that it works in DEMO mode.
> > Your serial was not accepted.
> >
> > Is it expired ?
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina


From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Mon Nov 22 08:56:34 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:56:34 -0400
Subject: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <00a601cb8a4a$d36d26b0$7a477410$@de>
References: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>
	<C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<008001cb8a36$fb7420f0$f25c62d0$@de>
	<00a601cb8a4a$d36d26b0$7a477410$@de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaKUx51YXov6unaAoW4BWn_GZmMBC8LqNBmnuP@mail.gmail.com>

I just tried install with newest version of LiveCode and newest version of
Valentina plug in. Got these errors so I manually copied the plug-in to the
two folders where it had trouble copying (no reason that I could see for the
problem as there was no plug-in there).  Then I tried my software and
Valentina will not init!

So clearly there is someplace where the plugin needs to be and it is not
there.

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals/Database Drivers
Copy plugin: /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/dbvalentina4
Successful!
Can't copy plugin /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/v4rev.bundle to
folder: /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals
Externals list updated successfully.
Database Drivers list updated successfully.
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/PowerPC-32
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/x86-32
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals/Database Drivers
Copy plugin: /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/dbvalentina4
Successful!
Can't copy plugin /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/v4rev.bundle to
folder: /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals
Externals list updated successfully.
Database Drivers list updated successfully.
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Windows
Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Windows/x86-32
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From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 22 10:38:30 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:38:30 +0100
Subject: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaKUx51YXov6unaAoW4BWn_GZmMBC8LqNBmnuP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007501cb8a34$dd98eb30$98cac190$@de>	<C9101AA8.E0539%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>	<008001cb8a36$fb7420f0$f25c62d0$@de>	<00a601cb8a4a$d36d26b0$7a477410$@de>
	<AANLkTinaKUx51YXov6unaAoW4BWn_GZmMBC8LqNBmnuP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>

Hi William,

on Mac I made the experience that it is always a good choice to empty the
target folder before running the install.rev. Then it usually never made
trouble.

 

But my problem occurred only on Win where I manually copied all externals
and related Win files to my standalone builder (the places where the 3.5.2
files were before). On Mac my new license code works without trouble with
4.7 over the 10 min limit.

 

Tiemo

 

Von: valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net
[mailto:valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag
von william humphrey
Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 15:57
An: Valentina Developers
Betreff: Re: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App

 

I just tried install with newest version of LiveCode and newest version of
Valentina plug in. Got these errors so I manually copied the plug-in to the
two folders where it had trouble copying (no reason that I could see for the
problem as there was no plug-in there).  Then I tried my software and
Valentina will not init!

 

So clearly there is someplace where the plugin needs to be and it is not
there.

 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals/Database Drivers 

Copy plugin: /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/dbvalentina4
Successful! 

Can't copy plugin /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/v4rev.bundle to
folder: /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Externals 

Externals list updated successfully. 

Database Drivers list updated successfully. 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/PowerPC-32 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/x86-32 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS X/Universal 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals/Database Drivers 

Copy plugin: /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/dbvalentina4
Successful! 

Can't copy plugin /Users/McFadden/Paradigma Software/V4REV_4/v4rev.bundle to
folder: /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Mac OS
X/Universal/Externals 

Externals list updated successfully. 

Database Drivers list updated successfully. 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Windows 

Created /Users/McFadden/Documents/My LiveCode/Runtime/Windows/x86-32 

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 22 12:40:19 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:40:19 +0200
Subject: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>
Message-ID: <C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/22/10 6:38 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

> Hi William,
> on Mac I made the experience that it is always a good choice to empty the
> target folder before running the install.rev. Then it usually never made
> trouble.
>  
> But my problem occurred only on Win where I manually copied all externals and
> related Win files to my standalone builder (the places where the 3.5.2 files
> were before). On Mac my new license code works without trouble with 4.7 over
> the 10 min limit.

Hi Thiemo,

On windows Valentina dlls are in the folder

    /Program Files / Paradigma Software/ vcomponents_win_vc

Try trash this folder and reinstall.



-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Mon Nov 22 12:51:25 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 14:51:25 -0400
Subject: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>
	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=DFMU+j9nE6ynk1LaX_6cmfXuo4ZB29qn5teXa@mail.gmail.com>

It was a fresh install of RunRev and the target folder was empty but I'll
try it again.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/10 6:38 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi William,
> > on Mac I made the experience that it is always a good choice to empty the
> > target folder before running the install.rev. Then it usually never made
> > trouble.
> >
> > But my problem occurred only on Win where I manually copied all externals
> and
> > related Win files to my standalone builder (the places where the 3.5.2
> files
> > were before). On Mac my new license code works without trouble with 4.7
> over
> > the 10 min limit.
>
> Hi Thiemo,
>
> On windows Valentina dlls are in the folder
>
>    /Program Files / Paradigma Software/ vcomponents_win_vc
>
> Try trash this folder and reinstall.
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>



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From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 03:37:04 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:37:04 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>
	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>

Hi Ruslan,

I tried to make a fresh new install of 4.7, but I am just a bit puzzeled.
I downloaded the current 4.7 version from here:
http://www.valentina-db.com/en/downloads/valentina-for-runtime-revolution
I executed the v4rev_4_win.exe (as administrator)
I get the three folders:
C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\Bonjour
C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\V4REV_4
C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\vcomponents_win_vc
BUT the V4REV_4 Folder is empty beside of the two unins000 files.
Where are the two valentina DLLs and the installer.rev?
What am I missing?

On the other hand I did have had theses two DLLs of version 4.7 before, I
have checked in my broken installation the file details (where I get the
bug)

Thanks for helping
Tiemo (without "h" :))


> 
> Hi Thiemo,
> 
> On windows Valentina dlls are in the folder
> 
>     /Program Files / Paradigma Software/ vcomponents_win_vc
> 
> Try trash this folder and reinstall.
> 
> 


From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 05:55:02 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:55:02 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>
Message-ID: <000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>

Ok, found it.
The files were not on C:\ but in my user Documents folder (could be added to
Valentina Wiki install instructions - would help a lot of searching)

Now I copied all new 4.7 files from V4REV_4 and vcomponents_win_vc folder
into my standalone, but the result remains the same - error after 10 min.
Are there any other restrictions, what could cause the demo mode?

Thanks for any ideas
Tiemo


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-
> bounces at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 10:37
> An: 'Valentina Developers'
> Betreff: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
> 
> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> I tried to make a fresh new install of 4.7, but I am just a bit
> puzzeled.
> I downloaded the current 4.7 version from here:
> http://www.valentina-db.com/en/downloads/valentina-for-runtime-
> revolution
> I executed the v4rev_4_win.exe (as administrator)
> I get the three folders:
> C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\Bonjour
> C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\V4REV_4
> C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\vcomponents_win_vc
> BUT the V4REV_4 Folder is empty beside of the two unins000 files.
> Where are the two valentina DLLs and the installer.rev?
> What am I missing?
> 
> On the other hand I did have had theses two DLLs of version 4.7 before,
> I
> have checked in my broken installation the file details (where I get
> the
> bug)
> 
> Thanks for helping
> Tiemo (without "h" :))
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi Thiemo,
> >
> > On windows Valentina dlls are in the folder
> >
> >     /Program Files / Paradigma Software/ vcomponents_win_vc
> >
> > Try trash this folder and reinstall.
> >
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina


From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 07:48:35 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:48:35 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>	<000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>
	<000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>
Message-ID: <001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>

If there are no more ideas, I have to roll back to Valentina 3.5.1. and dump
Valentina 4.7
I have worked over the last weeks on my new release, have tested and tested
and by good but only by accident found this weird 10 min bug just some
minutes before delivery with the fixed master Cd in my hands.
After 2 days of doing nothing else as caring about the not running Valentina
I am now over my deadline of my new release and have to deliver.
Sorry, but this is the second weird and heavy time consuming Valentina bug.
Perhaps it is my fault, but if yes Valentina installation is too
sophisticated for me.
Need for speed? No, need for reliable software!
Tiemo

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net
> [mailto:valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net] Im
> Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 12:55
> An: 'Valentina Developers'
> Betreff: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
> 
> Ok, found it.
> The files were not on C:\ but in my user Documents folder (could be
> added to
> Valentina Wiki install instructions - would help a lot of searching)
> 
> Now I copied all new 4.7 files from V4REV_4 and vcomponents_win_vc
> folder
> into my standalone, but the result remains the same - error after 10
> min.
> Are there any other restrictions, what could cause the demo mode?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> Tiemo


From thohage at genericobjects.de  Tue Nov 23 08:02:34 2010
From: thohage at genericobjects.de (Thorsten Hohage)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:02:34 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>	<000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>
	<000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>
	<001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
Message-ID: <0E17E935-CC29-431F-B7F8-96D452493927@genericobjects.de>

Hi Tiemo,

On 2010-11-23, at 14:48, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

> If there are no more ideas, I have to roll back to Valentina 3.5.1. and dump
> Valentina 4.7

did you try the couple of default kicking-the-box things for a windows machine?

* what is about anti-virus and other security software ... try to really switch them off and see what happens (I had to solve just yesterday a nasty thing with newest Panda on a Windows 7 machine)

* what is about all this "fancy" (sorry, I'm a native mac guy) new security things done by windows

* what is with the used drive, is it on CD / DVD ... could it be falling in a sleep mode and so not accessible Valentina expects to be


* are there anything strange to be seen in window console / task manager just around this ten minutes


* did you run in on a german machine? try it on a english one?  ... btw. what about the paths anything with Umlauts or other chars could be misinterpreted by a non-native-german software? (had once a case where the german path was destroyed by some M$ routines and not inside a software)


* try to play with date settings! I spend weeks finding a bug with sybase due to an issue with german date settings ......


* perhaps you should check / send the initial Valentina call with the serials to Ruslan(?) to see if there is anything right .... did you have ANY working app using the new serials? ... 

------------
@Ruslan: Can't we try to generate a new serial to see if this will work?!?!?!
------------


Just to get it the right way, the old version of your app is working fine on Windows 7, but the new one not???



Of course you can give me a call (as far as I think you're in Germany, too) but I'm not sure if I can give any more help except four eyes are seeing more then two.



Freundlicher Gruss,

Thorsten Hohage
-- 

Valentina Technology Evangelist
generic objects  GmbH - Leiter Solution Center Nord

Tel: +49 172 2920328

----------------------------------------------------
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San.-Dr.-Geiger-Str. 15, 74206 Bad Wimpfen, Germany

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Registergericht Stuttgart HRB 108337 UST-IdNr: DE172324689

Tel: +49 7063  950-134   Fax: +49 7063 950-136
http://www.genericobjects.de


From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 08:45:41 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:45:41 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <0E17E935-CC29-431F-B7F8-96D452493927@genericobjects.de>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>	<000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>	<000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>	<001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
	<0E17E935-CC29-431F-B7F8-96D452493927@genericobjects.de>
Message-ID: <001601cb8b1d$1e967380$5bc35a80$@de>

Hallo Thorsten,
thanks for jumping into this and thinking outside the box - sometimes you
really get narrow sided in these situations.
Now I will spend another day, checking your valuable thoughts.
Below some quick answers

> 
> * what is about anti-virus and other security software ... try to
> really switch them off and see what happens (I had to solve just
> yesterday a nasty thing with newest Panda on a Windows 7 machine)

Will check

> 
> * what is about all this "fancy" (sorry, I'm a native mac guy) new
> security things done by windows

Will check, but got the same on my XP machine

> 
> * what is with the used drive, is it on CD / DVD ... could it be
> falling in a sleep mode and so not accessible Valentina expects to be

It's on C:

> 
> 
> * are there anything strange to be seen in window console / task
> manager just around this ten minutes

noop

> 
> 
> * did you run in on a german machine? try it on a english one?  ...
> btw. what about the paths anything with Umlauts or other chars could be
> misinterpreted by a non-native-german software? (had once a case where
> the german path was destroyed by some M$ routines and not inside a
> software)

No Umlauts in the paths
Don't have an english machine by hand ;)

> 
> 
> * try to play with date settings! I spend weeks finding a bug with
> sybase due to an issue with german date settings ......

If I turn my clock back after 9 min it probably will go on working for
another 9 min :) (joke)

> 
> 
> * perhaps you should check / send the initial Valentina call with the
> serials to Ruslan(?) to see if there is anything right .... did you
> have ANY working app using the new serials? ...

Not on win. I don't have another App with Valentina, perhaps I should make a
small test app...

> 
> ------------
> @Ruslan: Can't we try to generate a new serial to see if this will
> work?!?!?!
> ------------

Would be worth a try ;)

> 
> 
> Just to get it the right way, the old version of your app is working
> fine on Windows 7, but the new one not???

Yes with Valentina 3.5.1 it works fine on Win 7 and with 4.7 it also works
fine for 9min 59secs

> 
> 
> 
> Of course you can give me a call (as far as I think you're in Germany,
> too) but I'm not sure if I can give any more help except four eyes are
> seeing more then two.

Thanks for your offer - and yes I am living in good old Germany - but first
I will try some more testing. We are running out of stock of our CDs and I
should have send my master to the pressing plant (is this the correct
English expression?) days ago, but I will spend another day, knowing I am
not alone ;)

> 
> 
> 
> Freundlicher Gruss,
> 
> Thorsten Hohage
> --
> 
> Valentina Technology Evangelist
> generic objects  GmbH - Leiter Solution Center Nord
> 
> Tel: +49 172 2920328
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
> generic objects  GmbH
> San.-Dr.-Geiger-Str. 15, 74206 Bad Wimpfen, Germany
> 
> Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Jochen Peters
> Registergericht Stuttgart HRB 108337 UST-IdNr: DE172324689
> 
> Tel: +49 7063  950-134   Fax: +49 7063 950-136
> http://www.genericobjects.de
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina


From ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com  Tue Nov 23 09:48:30 2010
From: ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com (Ivan Smahin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:48:30 +0200
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
References: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
Message-ID: <1922741715.20101123174830@paradigmasoft.com>

Hello jda,

Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:34:57 PM, you wrote:

Well, really strange things...
Open  that  db  with  vStudio  (as  before) and now I see some records
(~100).  And more compact now do nothing because all database segments
are in use.

BTW,  69338 segments on the volume and 271 segments
are allocated for segment-map!

Now I see - the BLOB occupies ~140Mb.
After cloning this BLOB occupies ~20Mb.


So my assumption is different now.
Somehow  BLOB  may loss some BLOB-segments. For example - putting some
data  to  the  BLOB and forget to "commit" it with either AddRecord or
UpdateRecord,  but move to another recID instead. Of course, there are some guards
in   our   code  which  should prevent such orphan segments but anyway
you should avoid such situation:

tbl.SetBlank()
fldBlob.WriteData( pData )
... no AddRecord()
tbl.NextRecord

or

tbl.FirstRecord
fldBlob.WriteData( pData )
... no UpdateRecord()
tbl.NextRecord

Could you describe more detailed how blob data comes to the database?

BTW - what valentina version was used?


-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Smahin 
Senior Software Engineer
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
http://www.valentina-db.com


From jda at his.com  Tue Nov 23 10:00:43 2010
From: jda at his.com (jda)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:00:43 -0500
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <1922741715.20101123174830@paradigmasoft.com>
References: <1E4C3B31-4F31-4E1A-9DFF-2E7C99A6EE08@his.com>
	<1922741715.20101123174830@paradigmasoft.com>
Message-ID: <p06002007c91194c1f429@[137.187.208.140]>

>Hello jda,
>
>Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:34:57 PM, you wrote:
>
>Well, really strange things...
>Open  that  db  with  vStudio  (as  before) and now I see some records
>(~100).  And more compact now do nothing because all database segments
>are in use.
>
>BTW,  69338 segments on the volume and 271 segments
>are allocated for segment-map!
>
>Now I see - the BLOB occupies ~140Mb.
>After cloning this BLOB occupies ~20Mb.
>
>
>So my assumption is different now.
>Somehow  BLOB  may loss some BLOB-segments. For example - putting some
>data  to  the  BLOB and forget to "commit" it with either AddRecord or
>UpdateRecord,  but move to another recID instead. Of course, there 
>are some guards
>in   our   code  which  should prevent such orphan segments but anyway
>you should avoid such situation:
>
>tbl.SetBlank()
>fldBlob.WriteData( pData )
>.... no AddRecord()
>tbl.NextRecord
>
>or
>
>tbl.FirstRecord
>fldBlob.WriteData( pData )
>.... no UpdateRecord()
>tbl.NextRecord
>
>Could you describe more detailed how blob data comes to the database?

Sure. All writing to this file goes through this REALBasic method:

   myCursor = prefsDB.SqlSelect("SELECT " + fieldName + " from prefs 
where propertyName='" + propertyName + "'", 
EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, EVLockType.kReadWrite)
   if myCursor <> nil and myCursor.recordCount = 1 then
    
     if fieldName <> "blobField" then
       if VarType(propertyValue) = 8 then
         myCursor.Field(fieldName).setString(propertyValue.StringValue)
       else
         myCursor.Field(fieldName).setString(propertyValue)
       end if
     else
       if VarType(propertyValue) = 8 and propertyValue.StringValue = 
"" then //it's an empty string. Delete the blob, don't insert an 
empty string!
         myCursor.BlobField(fieldName).DeleteData
       else
         myCursor.BlobField(fieldName).WriteRawData(propertyValue)
       end if
     end if
    
     myCursor.updateRecord
     prefsDB.flush




>
>BTW - what valentina version was used?
>

Since this was submitted by a user I can't be sure what version he 
was using. I'm currently using 4.7.

Jon

From rjb at robelko.com  Tue Nov 23 10:24:33 2010
From: rjb at robelko.com (Robert Brenstein)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:24:33 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
References: <00cf01cb8a63$b8c16ab0$2a444010$@de>
	<C91085B3.E05BA%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
	<000301cb8af2$01e16ae0$05a440a0$@de>	<000f01cb8b05$487d4e20$d977ea60$@de>
	<001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
Message-ID: <p06240809c9119aeea82e@[192.168.1.94]>

On 23.11.2010 at 14:48 Uhr +0100 Tiemo Hollmann TB apparently wrote:
>If there are no more ideas, I have to roll back to Valentina 3.5.1. and dump
>Valentina 4.7
>I have worked over the last weeks on my new release, have tested and tested
>and by good but only by accident found this weird 10 min bug just some
>minutes before delivery with the fixed master Cd in my hands.
>After 2 days of doing nothing else as caring about the not running Valentina
>I am now over my deadline of my new release and have to deliver.
>Sorry, but this is the second weird and heavy time consuming Valentina bug.
>Perhaps it is my fault, but if yes Valentina installation is too
>sophisticated for me.
>Need for speed? No, need for reliable software!
>Tiemo
>

We can only have sympathy for you...
Presumably, you double-checked for a silly things like a typo in 
serial number or the serial number in the wrong position in the init 
call.

Robert

From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Tue Nov 23 11:16:54 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:16:54 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <001601cb8b1d$1e967380$5bc35a80$@de>
Message-ID: <C911C3A6.E068A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/23/10 4:45 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

> Hallo Thorsten,
> thanks for jumping into this and thinking outside the box - sometimes you
> really get narrow sided in these situations.
> Now I will spend another day, checking your valuable thoughts.
> Below some quick answers

Hi Tiemo,

Once again 10 min timeout can means only

A) wrong (typo) serial you use
B) expired serial.


Please send me your serials OFF FLIST.
I will check them.




-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Tue Nov 23 11:18:20 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:18:20 +0200
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <p06002007c91194c1f429@[137.187.208.140]>
Message-ID: <C911C3FC.E068B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/23/10 6:00 PM, "jda" <jda at his.com> wrote:

>> BTW - what valentina version was used?
>> 
> 
> Since this was submitted by a user I can't be sure what version he
> was using. I'm currently using 4.7.

Why not ask that user?

Your app can display Valentina engine version?


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Tue Nov 23 11:18:20 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:18:20 +0200
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <p06002007c91194c1f429@[137.187.208.140]>
Message-ID: <C911C3FC.E068B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/23/10 6:00 PM, "jda" <jda at his.com> wrote:

>> BTW - what valentina version was used?
>> 
> 
> Since this was submitted by a user I can't be sure what version he
> was using. I'm currently using 4.7.

Why not ask that user?

Your app can display Valentina engine version?


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Tue Nov 23 11:23:40 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:23:40 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
Message-ID: <C911C53C.E068F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/23/10 3:48 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

>> Ok, found it.
>> The files were not on C:\ but in my user Documents folder (could be
>> added to
>> Valentina Wiki install instructions - would help a lot of searching)

Right here

http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:products:adk:v4re
v:manual:installation

With pictures all this is described and pointed "My Documents" folder for
win.



-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 11:55:16 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:55:16 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <C911C3A6.E068A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <001601cb8b1d$1e967380$5bc35a80$@de>
	<C911C3A6.E068A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <002901cb8b37$9ce61e60$d6b25b20$@de>

Hi Ruslan,

it is so awkward, it WAS a typo in my new Win serial (I have copied it over
the old one, leaving one char...)
I am so sorry I misspointed on you - kudos to you!
Thanks for the sympathy and thinking outside the box Thorsten and Robert :)
Now I can kick out my new version tomorrow :)
Need for speed? Always!
Thank you
Tiemo


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-
> bounces at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 18:17
> An: valentina at lists.macserve.net
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
> 
> On 11/23/10 4:45 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo Thorsten,
> > thanks for jumping into this and thinking outside the box - sometimes
> you
> > really get narrow sided in these situations.
> > Now I will spend another day, checking your valuable thoughts.
> > Below some quick answers
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> Once again 10 min timeout can means only
> 
> A) wrong (typo) serial you use
> B) expired serial.
> 
> 
> Please send me your serials OFF FLIST.
> I will check them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina


From jda at his.com  Tue Nov 23 11:53:14 2010
From: jda at his.com (jda)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:53:14 -0500
Subject: Are you receiving my emails?
In-Reply-To: <C911C3FC.E068B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C911C3FC.E068B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <p06002014c911afa98846@[137.187.208.140]>

>
>Why not ask that user?
>
>Your app can display Valentina engine version?
>

Because the large increase in file size may have happened long ago 
with an older version of Valentina but wasn't noticed until just now.

Jon

From toolbook at kestner.de  Tue Nov 23 11:59:43 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:59:43 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <C911C53C.E068F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <001501cb8b15$24dabc40$6e9034c0$@de>
	<C911C53C.E068F%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <002b01cb8b38$3a40dd30$aec29790$@de>

Sometimes you don't see the wood for the trees...
Thanks Ruslan!

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net
> [mailto:valentina-bounces+toolbook=kestner.de at lists.macserve.net] Im
> Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 18:24
> An: valentina at lists.macserve.net
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
> 
> On 11/23/10 3:48 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
> 
> >> Ok, found it.
> >> The files were not on C:\ but in my user Documents folder (could be
> >> added to
> >> Valentina Wiki install instructions - would help a lot of searching)
> 
> Right here
> 
> http://www.valentina-
> db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:products:adk:v4re
> v:manual:installation
> 
> With pictures all this is described and pointed "My Documents" folder
> for
> win.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Tue Nov 23 13:26:43 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:26:43 +0200
Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Valentina 4.7 has broken existing Rev App
In-Reply-To: <002901cb8b37$9ce61e60$d6b25b20$@de>
Message-ID: <C911E213.E06BE%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/23/10 7:55 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> it is so awkward, it WAS a typo in my new Win serial (I have copied it over
> the old one, leaving one char...)
> I am so sorry I misspointed on you - kudos to you!
> Thanks for the sympathy and thinking outside the box Thorsten and Robert :)
> Now I can kick out my new version tomorrow :)
> Need for speed? Always!
> Thank you

Hi Tiemo,

Excellent :)

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From jda at his.com  Wed Nov 24 08:06:33 2010
From: jda at his.com (jda)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:06:33 -0500
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
Message-ID: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>


Hi Rualan, I can't log into Mantis anymore, so I'll post this bug here.

VStudio let's you select any file to open, but unless there is a .vdb 
extension I refuses to open it, even if it's a valid Valentina 
database. My databases have a different extension, so this is a real 
nuisance. You already have an example db that I sent you and Ivan 
recently you can see this with -- try to open it with VStudio. Or I 
can send you a new one.

This is with a copy of VStudio I downloaded today, BTW.

Jon

From bwillius at gmx.de  Wed Nov 24 09:59:38 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:59:38 +0100
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>
References: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>
Message-ID: <9A8F1183-F254-42D6-980D-8B9F263A3D4C@gmx.de>

Hi jda,

this is an issue, which has been known for a long time (May this year). But right now I can't find a Mantis report. 

On 24.11.2010, at 15:06, jda wrote:

> Hi Rualan, I can't log into Mantis anymore, so I'll post this bug here.
> 
> VStudio let's you select any file to open, but unless there is a .vdb extension I refuses to open it, even if it's a valid Valentina database. My databases have a different extension, so this is a real nuisance. You already have an example db that I sent you and Ivan recently you can see this with -- try to open it with VStudio. Or I can send you a new one.
> 
> This is with a copy of VStudio I downloaded today, BTW.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From warren at warrensweb.us  Wed Nov 24 10:46:03 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:46:03 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
Message-ID: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>

Hello,

I am unable to get V4REV working in Linux Mint. The Linux version
doesn't benefit from the comprehensive rev installer that allows for
foolproof installation in Mac and Windows and the docs are incomplete. I
have created what seems like a plausible directory structure based on my
experience with the other platforms, but Valentina_Init() returns an
error. 

I have created a directory "~/my_livecode" which contains the "Plugins"
and "Externals" directories. (Plugins placed here are found by Livecode,
so that part is correct.) I have placed the V4REV.so at top level inside
the Externals directory along with a file "Externals.txt" which contains
the entry "Valentina4,V4REV.so". Inside the Externals directory is a
directory called "Database Drivers" which holds "dbvalentina2.so" and a
file "Database Drivers.txt" with an entry "Valentina,dbvalentina2.so".
"vcomponents" is installed in /usr/local/lib (using proper install
script).

I have tried the explicit linking to these files in the stack property
inspector as per the "readme" but this was not a solution. About this; I
see this step is deprecated since Rev 2.7. Is this currently necessary
for getting V4REV to work in Linux? In any event, I have been unable to
get it working :( 

Where have I gone wrong?

Regards,

Warren 




From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Wed Nov 24 13:49:49 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:49:49 +0200
Subject: business models of software // How do you programmatically create
	an empty database?
In-Reply-To: <A669EE4569E444F99D13218B461FD303@GATEWAY>
Message-ID: <C91338FD.E08B2%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/24/10 8:22 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" <lfredricks at proactive-intl.com> wrote:

>> <rant> Can I please have my old relational database model
>> back? Can I please have Visual Foxpro? Or 4D? Or ANYTHING
>> ELSE but this unwieldy, blood sucking, "the more money you
>> make the more you have to give us" kind of database model we
>> call SQL? We've been sold out, lads! SOLD OUT!!! </rant>
> 
> Business models are usually the product of competitors colliding against
> each other until, like stones on a beach, they start to resemble each other.
> Some are truly baffling.

:-) just  for info ... Lets image we take coffee and have a talk :-)


I'd like to express an idea that have come to my mind few weeks ago
about what was wrong in idea of open source software and free software.


* at first let me note, that on THIS list live developers, which have spend
money for LiveCode IDE at least.  May be for MAC OS X also ...
This is good.


* Exactly on this list some very smart guy have express point few years ago:
    it was a WRONG IDEA to start game with Free Software
    in the way as it is now BECAUSE:
 
     Software Industry self decide to be kamikaze and do free gifts to
     any other industries (cars, food, ships, planes, ... ).


Really, can you -- ship your project for free as GPL, open its sources,
then go to a car shop and ask for a free car? Nope?  Strange?    :-)


*** Let me remind, that guy which have invent idea of open source
software/license  and later Free Software  have express idea like this:

    in science all new ideas become open.
    Everybody can reuse them.

    So in the software we should do the same.
        e.g. somebody have write new cool algorithm,
        everybody should be able use it.

Okay, almost right ... But IMO almost...


=======================
I think fundamental mistake was that should be added words:
    Only other __software__ company can reuse that sources,
    products, algorithms.

    But a plant, a food factory, a car shop should still pay for software.

    In other words, if a Ship Plant want to use Postgre -- it should pay
    to developers of Postgre.

    Anyway Postgre team is paid. But in other channels.
    Right?  Then why to play this games with hidden payments?
  
    Also it is clear that TEAM is paid now much less comparing
    to possible sales of Postgre. Somebody have stolen their profit.
    who?  Other industries guys. Other industries.
   
   Step by step was killed idea of big profit if you sale many copies.
   Never mind how popular is Postgre or SqlLite or Valentina.
   Developers tend to get middle-level salary.
   
 
=======================
Think about this guys. And not be in rush to say that I am stupid or not
understanding something :-)    Believe me I do ... And I see dynamic ...

I was very against of Free Software ideas yet in 90ths.
I have told that Software Industry on this way will expect:

A) reduce total amount of profit

B) therefore popularity of "software developer" profession will go down.
This means that less and talents will come to software industry. They will
go to other industries.

C) Open Source segment will grow and eat Commercial step by step ...
But ... Result will be painful for all ...  for software developers, for
software users.


=======================
When and if commercial software will die a lots ... The world will see that
open source is not so good ... Because e.g. not enough __control__ ...

And open source projects will start transformation into commercial.
This already happens. E.g. branches of Postgre, ACE and other projects.
 

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From email at sigwx.de  Wed Nov 24 14:54:45 2010
From: email at sigwx.de (Andreas Mellin)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:54:45 +0100
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <9A8F1183-F254-42D6-980D-8B9F263A3D4C@gmx.de>
References: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>
	<9A8F1183-F254-42D6-980D-8B9F263A3D4C@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4CED7B95.1020202@sigwx.de>

  Yes, for me it was also the first stone when I tried accessing a 
Valentina DB the first Time. On Win7 I've fond a w?rg around, using the 
mklink command, which allows you to create a sym link to the database.

Andreas

Am 24.11.2010 16:59, schrieb Beatrix Willius:
> Hi jda,
>
> this is an issue, which has been known for a long time (May this year). But right now I can't find a Mantis report.
>
> On 24.11.2010, at 15:06, jda wrote:
>
>> Hi Rualan, I can't log into Mantis anymore, so I'll post this bug here.
>>
>> VStudio let's you select any file to open, but unless there is a .vdb extension I refuses to open it, even if it's a valid Valentina database. My databases have a different extension, so this is a real nuisance. You already have an example db that I sent you and Ivan recently you can see this with -- try to open it with VStudio. Or I can send you a new one.
>>
>> This is with a copy of VStudio I downloaded today, BTW.
> Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards
>
> Trixi Willius
>
> http://www.mothsoftware.com
> Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
> http://www.beatrixwillius.de
> Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Valentina mailing list
> Valentina at lists.macserve.net
> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina
>


From ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com  Thu Nov 25 02:31:06 2010
From: ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com (Ivan Smahin)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:31:06 +0200
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
References: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
Message-ID: <36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>

Hello Warren,

Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 6:46:03 PM, you wrote:

> Hello,

> I am unable to get V4REV working in Linux Mint. The Linux version
> doesn't benefit from the comprehensive rev installer that allows for
> foolproof installation in Mac and Windows and the docs are incomplete. I
> have created what seems like a plausible directory structure based on my
> experience with the other platforms, but Valentina_Init() returns an
> error. 

What kind of error?
Is there any V4REV log?

> I have created a directory "~/my_livecode" which contains the "Plugins"
> and "Externals" directories. (Plugins placed here are found by Livecode,
> so that part is correct.) I have placed the V4REV.so at top level inside
> the Externals directory along with a file "Externals.txt" which contains
> the entry "Valentina4,V4REV.so". Inside the Externals directory is a
> directory called "Database Drivers" which holds "dbvalentina2.so" and a
> file "Database Drivers.txt" with an entry "Valentina,dbvalentina2.so".
> "vcomponents" is installed in /usr/local/lib (using proper install
> script).

Could you check dependency - I mean ldd ./V4REV.so ?
Probably it is just ldconfig question?

> I have tried the explicit linking to these files in the stack property
> inspector as per the "readme" but this was not a solution. About this; I
> see this step is deprecated since Rev 2.7. Is this currently necessary
> for getting V4REV to work in Linux? In any event, I have been unable to
> get it working :( 

What is V4REV version?

-- 
Best regards,
Ivan Smahin 
Senior Software Engineer
Paradigma Software, Inc
Valentina - The Ultra-Fast Database
http://www.valentina-db.com


From warren at warrensweb.us  Thu Nov 25 08:56:36 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:56:36 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>
References: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
	<36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>
Message-ID: <1290696996.2031.128.camel@mint-i7>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 10:31 +0200, Ivan Smahin wrote: 
> Hello Warren,
> 
> Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 6:46:03 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> > I am unable to get V4REV working in Linux Mint. The Linux version
> > doesn't benefit from the comprehensive rev installer that allows for
> > foolproof installation in Mac and Windows and the docs are incomplete. I
> > have created what seems like a plausible directory structure based on my
> > experience with the other platforms, but Valentina_Init() returns an
> > error. 
> 
> What kind of error?
> Is there any V4REV log?
> 
> > I have created a directory "~/my_livecode" which contains the "Plugins"
> > and "Externals" directories. (Plugins placed here are found by Livecode,
> > so that part is correct.) I have placed the V4REV.so at top level inside
> > the Externals directory along with a file "Externals.txt" which contains
> > the entry "Valentina4,V4REV.so". Inside the Externals directory is a
> > directory called "Database Drivers" which holds "dbvalentina2.so" and a
> > file "Database Drivers.txt" with an entry "Valentina,dbvalentina2.so".
> > "vcomponents" is installed in /usr/local/lib (using proper install
> > script).
> 
> Could you check dependency - I mean ldd ./V4REV.so ?
> Probably it is just ldconfig question?
> 
> > I have tried the explicit linking to these files in the stack property
> > inspector as per the "readme" but this was not a solution. About this; I
> > see this step is deprecated since Rev 2.7. Is this currently necessary
> > for getting V4REV to work in Linux? In any event, I have been unable to
> > get it working :( 
> 
> What is V4REV version?
> 


Thanks for responding!

Valentina 4.7. I'm running 64 bit Linux Mint (a child of Ubuntu distro)
with 32 bit compatibility layer installed. I have moved the vcomponents
to /usr/lib and run ldconfig. 'ldd V4REV.so' seems to indicate there are
no unresolved dependencies. Have others had problems installing V4REV in
Ubuntu?


The error is a Revolution script error which indicates it doesn't
understand the function 'Valentina_Init()'.

Can you or someone tell me if I have installed the external correctly in
Revolution/Livecode? (Aside from any problems the libs may be giving me,
this needs to be correct, too!) What about the *perhaps* no longer
necessary step of explicitly asscociating the external with the stack
via the property inspector? 

Thanks :)

Warren 


From bwillius at gmx.de  Thu Nov 25 09:56:58 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:56:58 +0100
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <4CED7B95.1020202@sigwx.de>
References: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>
	<9A8F1183-F254-42D6-980D-8B9F263A3D4C@gmx.de>
	<4CED7B95.1020202@sigwx.de>
Message-ID: <2F7C47C1-F87F-4EF1-ADC5-356BEF7A7ECF@gmx.de>

Ruslan????

On 24.11.2010, at 21:54, Andreas Mellin wrote:

> Yes, for me it was also the first stone when I tried accessing a Valentina DB the first Time. On Win7 I've fond a w?rg around, using the mklink command, which allows you to create a sym link to the database.

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Thu Nov 25 11:27:45 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:27:45 +0200
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <2F7C47C1-F87F-4EF1-ADC5-356BEF7A7ECF@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <C9146931.E0979%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/25/10 5:56 PM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

> On 24.11.2010, at 21:54, Andreas Mellin wrote:
> 
>> Yes, for me it was also the first stone when I tried accessing a Valentina DB
>> the first Time. On Win7 I've fond a w?rg around, using the mklink command,
>> which allows you to create a sym link to the database.

Sorry for delay.

As I know this was bug in vstudio 4.7  and it is fixed for 4.8

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Thu Nov 25 11:28:46 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:28:46 +0200
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <p06002009c912cb8d26e2@[137.187.208.140]>
Message-ID: <C914696E.E097A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/24/10 4:06 PM, "jda" <jda at his.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi Rualan, I can't log into Mantis anymore, so I'll post this bug here.
> 
> VStudio let's you select any file to open, but unless there is a .vdb
> extension I refuses to open it, even if it's a valid Valentina
> database. My databases have a different extension, so this is a real
> nuisance. You already have an example db that I sent you and Ivan
> recently you can see this with -- try to open it with VStudio. Or I
> can send you a new one.
> 
> This is with a copy of VStudio I downloaded today, BTW.

Btw,

Vstudio via dialog OPEN will be able open only  .vdb

All other extentions did work only via Drag and Drop of db file into Schema
Editor window.

Please check this ...


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From bwillius at gmx.de  Thu Nov 25 11:32:10 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:32:10 +0100
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <C914696E.E097A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C914696E.E097A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <847DE167-FACD-4D47-A197-341B84ABEBBE@gmx.de>

No, this wasn't the case. In former times I believed in the stupidness of extensions and I never ever had problems opening files with VStudio without extension. I never used drag-and-drop.

Happy thanksgiving also to Ukraine!

On 25.11.2010, at 18:28, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:

> On 11/24/10 4:06 PM, "jda" <jda at his.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Rualan, I can't log into Mantis anymore, so I'll post this bug here.
>> 
>> VStudio let's you select any file to open, but unless there is a .vdb
>> extension I refuses to open it, even if it's a valid Valentina
>> database. My databases have a different extension, so this is a real
>> nuisance. You already have an example db that I sent you and Ivan
>> recently you can see this with -- try to open it with VStudio. Or I
>> can send you a new one.
>> 
>> This is with a copy of VStudio I downloaded today, BTW.
> 
> Btw,
> 
> Vstudio via dialog OPEN will be able open only  .vdb
> 
> All other extentions did work only via Drag and Drop of db file into Schema
> Editor window.
> 
> Please check this ...
> 

Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From jda at his.com  Thu Nov 25 11:35:03 2010
From: jda at his.com (jda)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:35:03 -0500
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <C914696E.E097A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C914696E.E097A%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <886D6DD8-C442-496B-983F-93D16CCF7005@his.com>


> 
> Btw,
> 
> Vstudio via dialog OPEN will be able open only  .vdb
> 
> All other extentions did work only via Drag and Drop of db file into Schema
> Editor window.
> 
> Please check this ...
> 
> 

Since the Open dialog has the option to enable all files, I'd expect to be able to open any Valentina db, regardless of extension, from the Open dialog as well.

Jon


From bwillius at gmx.de  Thu Nov 25 11:37:24 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:37:24 +0100
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
Message-ID: <5E4D95DE-762D-489F-B445-3FED57D36B08@gmx.de>

Hi Ruslan,

while we are talking: what is the status of bug 5125? I really would like to see this fixed in 4.8. With this bug testing Cocoa is a major PITA.

http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/view.php?id=5125



Mit freundlichen Gr??en/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: archive, clean and search email
http://www.beatrixwillius.de
Fractals, 3d landscapes etc.


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Thu Nov 25 11:54:25 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:54:25 +0200
Subject: VStudio can't open files without .vdb
In-Reply-To: <847DE167-FACD-4D47-A197-341B84ABEBBE@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <C9146F71.E0988%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/25/10 7:32 PM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

> No, this wasn't the case. In former times I believed in the stupidness of
> extensions and I never ever had problems opening files with VStudio without
> extension. I never used drag-and-drop.

Ahhh,

You mean that file have NO extension at all.
I see 

I will ask Igor about this ..


> Happy thanksgiving also to Ukraine!

Thank you. Same to you all :-)

-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From warren at warrensweb.us  Thu Nov 25 12:09:01 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:09:01 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <1290696996.2031.128.camel@mint-i7>
References: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
	<36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>
	<1290696996.2031.128.camel@mint-i7>
Message-ID: <1290708541.2031.201.camel@mint-i7>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 08:56 -0600, Warren Samples wrote:
> > What is V4REV version?
> > 

> 
> Valentina 4.7 

I see now that it may be version 4.3, but it is the latest version
available to download.


From warren at warrensweb.us  Thu Nov 25 12:57:11 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:57:11 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <1290708541.2031.201.camel@mint-i7>
References: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
	<36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>
	<1290696996.2031.128.camel@mint-i7> <1290708541.2031.201.camel@mint-i7>
Message-ID: <1290711431.2031.215.camel@mint-i7>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:09 -0600, Warren Samples wrote: 
> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 08:56 -0600, Warren Samples wrote:
> > > What is V4REV version?
> > > 
> 
> > 
> > Valentina 4.7 
> 
> I see now that it may be version 4.3, but it is the latest version
> available to download.
> 

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm spamming the list, but to be thorough...

The version of Revolution/Livecode is 4.5.1. I don't have a previous
version installed to try and this is my first effort at running V4REV
under Linux. It's not giving me any problems under Windows or OS X in
Livecode 4.5.1. Could someone perhaps confirm that they have it working
in Livecode 4.5.1 in Linux?

Warren




From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com  Thu Nov 25 13:46:04 2010
From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:46:04 -0800
Subject: Black Friday Specials: Valentina, Franklin 3D,
	Franklin Audio and FREE tune
Message-ID: <25AB860B0D794D5D802B33F07968E7DA@GATEWAY>

http://www.mirye.net/buy/black-friday-2010

Hello all,

I have a list of Black Friday specials here that cover Mirye Software,
Franklin 3D, Franklin Audio, Valentina and even a few versions of LiveCode.
These offers run through Monday November 29, 2010 (aka Cyber Monday). Offers
range from 25% to 75%. A couple of new audio sets will also be released this
weekend if you are interested. Some of these link to other websites.

There is also a FREE tune available as part of the offer - this is a
soundtrack Christmas tune of "Up on the House Top" that allows you to embed
it with your media projects.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Fri Nov 26 01:14:39 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:14:39 +0200
Subject: [NEW] V4CC Tutorial of using NEW plugin to Interface builder
In-Reply-To: <33486a7211ac7ecf87db161408177305.squirrel@hades.genericobjects.de>
Message-ID: <C9152AFF.E09E9%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/26/10 8:02 AM, "Jochen Peters" <jpeters at genericobjects.de> wrote:

Hi Jochen, 
    
<http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:products:adk:v4c
c:tutorial:tutorial>

> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> the V4CC tutorial looks very nice!!

Thank you.

> Great news to have such a good integration into XCode - this is also good
> for beginners and experts. Very nice to get quick results without coding!

Yes.

 
> For my understanding:
> Would it be also possible to do a CoreData coupling? I mean using CoreData
> to access not SQLite but Valentina?

Not yet.

And we cannot actually plug into CoreData infrastructure.
But what we can is next

1) we already have working code which can take MODEL from XCODE
Read it, and produce Valentina DB

We now only need integrate this code into Vstudio MAC.

This will be one more step to better integrate Valentina to XCODE.


2) We have see BaseTen framework,   ala-CoreData for Postgre.

This is not true CoreData. They just try to repeat API of CoreData in own
framework as much as possible.

This give chance that EXISTED CoreData application aroud SqlLite can be easy
switched to Postgre.

We think we also can try do the same for Valentina.


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Fri Nov 26 07:13:07 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:13:07 -0400
Subject: [NEW] V4CC Tutorial of using NEW plugin to Interface builder
In-Reply-To: <C9152AFF.E09E9%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <33486a7211ac7ecf87db161408177305.squirrel@hades.genericobjects.de>
	<C9152AFF.E09E9%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4WwS54bMiJ4TYUdZNPX=GJ2qSX_frCsV_y-Gy@mail.gmail.com>

Both links to the PDF reference on this page:

http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=valentina:products:adk:v4rev:v4rev

They both reference an old Valentina 3 pdf even though one of the links is
supposed to reference a newer one.
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From warren at warrensweb.us  Fri Nov 26 08:36:51 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:36:51 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <1290711431.2031.215.camel@mint-i7>
References: <1290617163.1974.316.camel@mint-i7>
	<36436639.20101125103106@paradigmasoft.com>
	<1290696996.2031.128.camel@mint-i7> <1290708541.2031.201.camel@mint-i7>
	<1290711431.2031.215.camel@mint-i7>
Message-ID: <1290782211.2031.352.camel@mint-i7>

On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:57 -0600, Warren Samples wrote:
> I'm sorry if it seems like I'm spamming the list

Well, maybe I don't feel too bad since it doesn't appear anyone's paying
attention *sigh* 


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Fri Nov 26 12:03:27 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:03:27 +0200
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <1290782211.2031.352.camel@mint-i7>
Message-ID: <C915C30F.E0A63%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/26/10 4:36 PM, "Warren Samples" <warren at warrensweb.us> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:57 -0600, Warren Samples wrote:
>> I'm sorry if it seems like I'm spamming the list
> 
> Well, maybe I don't feel too bad since it doesn't appear anyone's paying
> attention *sigh* 

Hi Warren,

Today Ivan have spend few hours to convert our old V4REV linux project to
new NetBeans format.

I very hope that in nearest 3-4 days we will produce massive beta build of
4.8 product line, with new report engine, which we have developed last 7
months.

And this new beta build will have new V4REV linux archive.

Please wait for it, ok ?


-- 
Best regards,

Ruslan Zasukhin
VP Engineering and New Technology
Paradigma Software, Inc

Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

[I feel the need: the need for speed]



From warren at warrensweb.us  Fri Nov 26 12:39:47 2010
From: warren at warrensweb.us (Warren Samples)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:39:47 -0600
Subject: installing and using V4REV in Linux questions
In-Reply-To: <C915C30F.E0A63%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <C915C30F.E0A63%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <1290796787.2031.393.camel@mint-i7>

On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 20:03 +0200, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: 
> On 11/26/10 4:36 PM, "Warren Samples" <warren at warrensweb.us> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:57 -0600, Warren Samples wrote:
> >> I'm sorry if it seems like I'm spamming the list
> > 
> > Well, maybe I don't feel too bad since it doesn't appear anyone's paying
> > attention *sigh* 
> 
> Hi Warren,
> 
> Today Ivan have spend few hours to convert our old V4REV linux project to
> new NetBeans format.
> 
> I very hope that in nearest 3-4 days we will produce massive beta build of
> 4.8 product line, with new report engine, which we have developed last 7
> months.
> 
> And this new beta build will have new V4REV linux archive.
> 
> Please wait for it, ok ?
> 
> 

OK! Thanks Ruslan! 


From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Sun Nov 28 15:39:46 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:39:46 -0400
Subject: Cloning question reposted
In-Reply-To: <1752977733.20101010203056@paradigmasoft.com>
References: <E89F3F2A-935B-4B2E-BF29-35162365EBBD@andrewdempsey.com>
	<1752977733.20101010203056@paradigmasoft.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimC8NKz87boVqnw0q5CiO_tjWrpgXLACLHOk+33@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

When I attempt to clone my databose I get the error:

Kernel error: 0X59502 File "what I named the clone" does not exist.

I'm using 4.5 Build Apr 29 2010 I'm going to go try and download a newer
version.

Bill
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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 02:47:52 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:47:52 +0200
Subject: Cloning question reposted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimC8NKz87boVqnw0q5CiO_tjWrpgXLACLHOk+33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C9193558.E0D7C%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/28/10 11:39 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

Hi William, 

> When I attempt to clone my databose I get the error:
> 
> Kernel error: 0X59502 File "what I named the clone" does not exist.
> 
> I'm using 4.5 Build Apr 29 2010 I'm going to go try and download a newer
> version.

ADK or Vstudio?


I think simplest way to check Vstudio.



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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 04:25:14 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:25:14 +0200
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
In-Reply-To: <5E4D95DE-762D-489F-B445-3FED57D36B08@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <C9194C2A.E0D80%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/25/10 7:37 PM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Ruslan,
> 
> while we are talking: what is the status of bug 5125? I really would like to
> see this fixed in 4.8. With this bug testing Cocoa is a major PITA.
> 
> http://www.valentina-db.com/bt/view.php?id=5125

Hi,

I cannot find where in the RB you do switch between CARBON and COCA build ?
can you point me please.?

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From bwillius at gmx.de  Mon Nov 29 04:39:36 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:39:36 +0100
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
Message-ID: <20101129103936.236150@gmx.net>

Hi Ruslan,

in the build settings with "Cmd-Shift-B".

valentina-bounces at galileo.macserve.net schrieb am 29.11.2010 11:25:14:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot find where in the RB you do switch between CARBON and COCA build ?
> can you point me please.?

Regards

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From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 29 05:18:24 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:18:24 +0100
Subject: OT: Need some SQL advice
Message-ID: <008f01cb8fb7$29efce40$7dcf6ac0$@de>

Hi,

I have only very basic SQL know how and am planning a new project, where I
need some SQL expertise before I start.

I have a db with 5 tables and about 20000 records in the main table, which
is read only (it's a kind of a dictionary).

I have 7 selection fields (say f1-f7) for selecting the datas and returning
the matching records (0-n).

There are 7 selection fields, which can all be used single or in any
combination to do the query, after each selection the resulting records are
shown immediatly. So the user can refine his query step by step.

In 6 of the selection fields the user has to select a distinct option (say
one out of 1,2,3,4,5,6)

But with one selection field (f7), the user can choose 0-n options out of 17
options (example: "1" or "2" or "9" or "17")

 

If I start with my basic SQL knowledge (reduced form):

SELECT * FROM myTable WHERE

f1=s1

AND f2=s2

AND f3=s3

...

AND f7=s7

                

now my questions:

1. How do I design one generic SQL SELECT statement, which fits for all
queries, where I only have to feed the variables with the options.

Example: if the user uses only the selection in field 1 (and leaves all
other selection on wildcard) it is much faster to query only field 1:

WHERE f1=s1

instead of:

WHERE f1=s1

AND f2=s2 (where I set s2="%")

AND f3=s3 (where I set s3="%")

...

AND f7=s7 (where I set s7="%")

But with this approach I can't setup one generic SQL statement which fits
for all queries. I would have to create douzends of SQL statements with all
possible combinations of selecting fields and would have to select the
actual SQL depending on the selection in my program. this isn't probably the
way of choice!? So how to do?

 

2. How do you design "subsequent" queries to speed up the performance? If
the user first selects an option in search field 1 I get a number of
matching records.

If now the user selects an option from search field 2 to narrow the search I
would like to query only the resulting records from the first search instead
of goign onto the full db with both search criterias. Can I handle this just
in memory (if yes how?) and leave my db a read only file or would I have to
create some kind of resulting fields in my table and write back the
resulting records from first search?

If the user deselects one of the combined search criterias I have to query
again the full db.

Or are these completely unnessesary thoughts with 20000 records and I should
go with every query on the full db?

 

 

3. For my field 7 with the OR options I would use the "IN" clause. right? Or
is there a more elegant/faster way?

 

Thanks for any coaching

Tiemo

 

 

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 05:20:49 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:20:49 +0200
Subject: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <008f01cb8fb7$29efce40$7dcf6ac0$@de>
Message-ID: <C9195931.E0D88%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 1:18 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

Hi Tiemo,

> Hi,
> I have only very basic SQL know how and am planning a new project, where I
> need some SQL expertise before I start.
> I have a db with 5 tables and about 20000 records in the main table, which is
> read only (it's a kind of a dictionary).
> I have 7 selection fields (say f1-f7) for selecting the datas and returning
> the matching records (0-n).
> There are 7 selection fields, which can all be used single or in any
> combination to do the query, after each selection the resulting records are
> shown immediatly. So the user can refine his query step by step.
> In 6 of the selection fields the user has to select a distinct option (say one
> out of 1,2,3,4,5,6)
> But with one selection field (f7), the user can choose 0-n options out of 17
> options (example: "1" or "2" or "9" or "17")
>  
> If I start with my basic SQL knowledge (reduced form):
> SELECT * FROM myTable WHERE
> f1=s1
> AND f2=s2
> AND f3=s3
> ...
> AND f7=s7
>                 
> now my questions:
> 1. How do I design one generic SQL SELECT statement, which fits for all
> queries, where I only have to feed the variables with the options.
> Example: if the user uses only the selection in field 1 (and leaves all other
> selection on wildcard) it is much faster to query only field 1:
> WHERE f1=s1
> instead of:
> WHERE f1=s1
> AND f2=s2 (where I set s2="%")
> AND f3=s3 (where I set s3="%")
> ...
> AND f7=s7 (where I set s7="%")
> But with this approach I can't setup one generic SQL statement which fits for
> all queries. I would have to create douzends of SQL statements with all
> possible combinations of selecting fields and would have to select the actual
> SQL depending on the selection in my program. this isn't probably the way of
> choice!? So how to do?

1)

Old way -- you just use string concats to buld STRING of query where needed
numbers are in place.

2) 

Better way to use SQL Binding

   = db.SqlSelect ( "...WHERE f1 = :1 AND f2 = :2    ...",  arrayOfParams )


V4RB examples do have such example
Please check it,


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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 05:22:58 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:22:58 +0200
Subject: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <008f01cb8fb7$29efce40$7dcf6ac0$@de>
Message-ID: <C91959B2.E0D8B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 1:18 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

> 2. How do you design "subsequent" queries to speed up the performance? If the
> user first selects an option in search field 1 I get a number of matching
> records.
> If now the user selects an option from search field 2 to narrow the search I
> would like to query only the resulting records from the first search instead
> of goign onto the full db with both search criterias. Can I handle this just
> in memory (if yes how?) and leave my db a read only file or would I have to
> create some kind of resulting fields in my table and write back the resulting
> records from first search?
> If the user deselects one of the combined search criterias I have to query
> again the full db.
> Or are these completely unnessesary thoughts with 20000 records and I should
> go with every query on the full db?

SQL way do not give you optinos to control this.

In API WAY (recommended only for LOCAL DBs)
Yes you can manually use API way and Vset class
To step by step produce result for the next field
And to reuse sets from f1 and f2 ...


> 3. For my field 7 with the OR options I would use the "IN" clause. right? Or
> is there a more elegant/faster way?

right

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 05:24:32 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:24:32 +0200
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
In-Reply-To: <20101129103936.236150@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <C9195A10.E0D8D%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 12:39 PM, "Beatrix Willius" <bwillius at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Ruslan,

in the build settings with
> "Cmd-Shift-B".

valentina-bounces at galileo.macserve.net schrieb am 29.11.2010
> 11:25:14:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot find where in the RB you do switch between
> CARBON and COCA build ?
> can you point me please.?

May be I use old RB ?

    2010 r2 

There is no any words Cocoa here.

    Universal Binary / PowerPC / Intel




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From bwillius at gmx.de  Mon Nov 29 05:32:40 2010
From: bwillius at gmx.de (Beatrix Willius)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:32:40 +0100
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
Message-ID: <20101129113240.275430@gmx.net>

Hi Ruslan,

you need to use the latest version 2010r4 or the beta for r5.  

valentina-bounces at galileo.macserve.net schrieb am 29.11.2010 12:24:32:
> 
> May be I use old RB ?
> 
>     2010 r2 
> 
> There is no any words Cocoa here.
> 
>     Universal Binary / PowerPC / Intel

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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 05:42:10 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:42:10 +0200
Subject: Mantis bug 5125
In-Reply-To: <C9195A10.E0D8D%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <C9195E32.E0D94%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 1:24 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" <ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com>
wrote:


>> I cannot find where in the RB you do switch between
>> CARBON and COCA build ?
>> can you point me please.?
> 
> May be I use old RB ?

Yes indeed

Thank you.


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From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 29 06:41:36 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:41:36 +0100
Subject: AW: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <C91959B2.E0D8B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <008f01cb8fb7$29efce40$7dcf6ac0$@de>
	<C91959B2.E0D8B%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <009d01cb8fc2$c8431ce0$58c956a0$@de>

Thank you Ruslan,
good to know looking into the right direction.
Tiemo

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-
> bounces at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2010 12:23
> An: valentina at lists.macserve.net
> Betreff: Re: OT: Need some SQL advice
> 
> On 11/29/10 1:18 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
> 
> > 2. How do you design "subsequent" queries to speed up the
> performance? If the
> > user first selects an option in search field 1 I get a number of
> matching
> > records.
> > If now the user selects an option from search field 2 to narrow the
> search I
> > would like to query only the resulting records from the first search
> instead
> > of goign onto the full db with both search criterias. Can I handle
> this just
> > in memory (if yes how?) and leave my db a read only file or would I
> have to
> > create some kind of resulting fields in my table and write back the
> resulting
> > records from first search?
> > If the user deselects one of the combined search criterias I have to
> query
> > again the full db.
> > Or are these completely unnessesary thoughts with 20000 records and I
> should
> > go with every query on the full db?
> 
> SQL way do not give you optinos to control this.
> 
> In API WAY (recommended only for LOCAL DBs)
> Yes you can manually use API way and Vset class
> To step by step produce result for the next field
> And to reuse sets from f1 and f2 ...
> 
> 
> > 3. For my field 7 with the OR options I would use the "IN" clause.
> right? Or
> > is there a more elegant/faster way?
> 
> right
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
> 
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From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 29 06:47:34 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:47:34 +0100
Subject: AW: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <C9195931.E0D88%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <008f01cb8fb7$29efce40$7dcf6ac0$@de>
	<C9195931.E0D88%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <009e01cb8fc3$9d391670$d7ab4350$@de>

To be sure:
So I am right that it makes a better performance to have in the SQL
statement only thoses field comparisons which are actually needed, as all
fields with ="%"
Tiemo


> > 1. How do I design one generic SQL SELECT statement, which fits for
> all
> > queries, where I only have to feed the variables with the options.
> > Example: if the user uses only the selection in field 1 (and leaves
> all other
> > selection on wildcard) it is much faster to query only field 1:
> > WHERE f1=s1
> > instead of:
> > WHERE f1=s1
> > AND f2=s2 (where I set s2="%")
> > AND f3=s3 (where I set s3="%")
> > ...
> > AND f7=s7 (where I set s7="%")
> > But with this approach I can't setup one generic SQL statement which
> fits for
> > all queries. I would have to create douzends of SQL statements with
> all
> > possible combinations of selecting fields and would have to select
> the actual
> > SQL depending on the selection in my program. this isn't probably the
> way of
> > choice!? So how to do?
> 
> 1)
> 
> Old way -- you just use string concats to buld STRING of query where
> needed
> numbers are in place.
> 


From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 07:24:17 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:24:17 +0200
Subject: AW: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <009e01cb8fc3$9d391670$d7ab4350$@de>
Message-ID: <C9197621.E0DA2%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 2:47 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:

> To be sure:
> So I am right that it makes a better performance to have in the SQL
> statement only thoses field comparisons which are actually needed, as all
> fields with ="%"

May be I did not catch original question...
Of course you need make query as simple as possible.

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From toolbook at kestner.de  Mon Nov 29 07:40:46 2010
From: toolbook at kestner.de (Tiemo Hollmann TB)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:40:46 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: OT: Need some SQL advice
In-Reply-To: <C9197621.E0DA2%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <009e01cb8fc3$9d391670$d7ab4350$@de>
	<C9197621.E0DA2%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <00af01cb8fcb$0c506700$24f13500$@de>

Thanks
Tiemo

> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valentina-bounces at lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-
> bounces at lists.macserve.net] Im Auftrag von Ruslan Zasukhin
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2010 14:24
> An: valentina at lists.macserve.net
> Betreff: Re: AW: OT: Need some SQL advice
> 
> On 11/29/10 2:47 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <toolbook at kestner.de> wrote:
> 
> > To be sure:
> > So I am right that it makes a better performance to have in the SQL
> > statement only thoses field comparisons which are actually needed, as
> all
> > fields with ="%"
> 
> May be I did not catch original question...
> Of course you need make query as simple as possible.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
> 
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
> 
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> 
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From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Mon Nov 29 08:05:26 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:05:26 -0400
Subject: Cloning question reposted
In-Reply-To: <C9193558.E0D7C%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTimC8NKz87boVqnw0q5CiO_tjWrpgXLACLHOk+33@mail.gmail.com>
	<C9193558.E0D7C%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinwVR+Eu8qcxyip0WahXbk5wd-4iwgUQSW28to7@mail.gmail.com>

Yes. I was using latest copy of Vstudio and clone command fails. I can
report it on Mantis but I cannot post the database to Mantis as it is too
large.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/28/10 11:39 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> > When I attempt to clone my databose I get the error:
> >
> > Kernel error: 0X59502 File "what I named the clone" does not exist.
> >
> > I'm using 4.5 Build Apr 29 2010 I'm going to go try and download a newer
> > version.
>
> ADK or Vstudio?
>
>
> I think simplest way to check Vstudio.
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ruslan Zasukhin
> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
>
> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information
> http://www.paradigmasoft.com
>
> [I feel the need: the need for speed]
>
>
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From ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com  Mon Nov 29 08:29:03 2010
From: ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com (Ruslan Zasukhin)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:29:03 +0200
Subject: Cloning question reposted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwVR+Eu8qcxyip0WahXbk5wd-4iwgUQSW28to7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C919854F.E0DB3%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>

On 11/29/10 4:05 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com> wrote:

> Yes. I was using latest copy of Vstudio and clone command fails. I can report
> it on Mantis but I cannot post the database to Mantis as it is too large.

Then question is if you can clone any other db?

What seize of compressed db?
We can get it by email if ZIP up to 10mb

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From bill at bluewatermaritime.com  Mon Nov 29 08:55:57 2010
From: bill at bluewatermaritime.com (william humphrey)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:55:57 -0400
Subject: Cloning question reposted
In-Reply-To: <C919854F.E0DB3%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
References: <AANLkTinwVR+Eu8qcxyip0WahXbk5wd-4iwgUQSW28to7@mail.gmail.com>
	<C919854F.E0DB3%ruslan_zasukhin@valentina-db.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=SZ3h-OoprvzrhV9PmZgJDBJxejY713p0sHnYb@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ruslan. I sent you a private email with the 5 megabyte zipped file.


On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin <
ruslan_zasukhin at valentina-db.com> wrote:

> On 11/29/10 4:05 PM, "william humphrey" <bill at bluewatermaritime.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes. I was using latest copy of Vstudio and clone command fails. I can
> report
> > it on Mantis but I cannot post the database to Mantis as it is too large.
>
> Then question is if you can clone any other db?
>
> What seize of compressed db?
> We can get it by email if ZIP up to 10mb
>
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>
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> VP Engineering and New Technology
> Paradigma Software, Inc
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From ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com  Tue Nov 30 23:39:59 2010
From: ivan_smahin at paradigmasoft.com (Ivan Smahin)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:39:59 -0000
Subject: [INFO] vPHP and binded values
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1291182000.7132.valentina@lists.macserve.net>

Hello Danny,

  Just for info...

  PHP
  ------

  There are new features in the current build:

  Currently you may pass as binded values following things:
        ? NULLs
        ? Bools, longs, doubles, strings
        ? Arrays (we will concat all elements in a single string value)
        ? IS_OBJECT which must be php_vbinary_value - no idea how to get such object in PHP
        
  Examples:

  // Load binary content and write it as a Picture and as a BLOB to the db.
  $filename = "WallPaperHD - 146.jpg";
  $handle = fopen($filename, "rb");
  $filecontents = fread($handle, filesize($filename));
  fclose($handle);

  // Array of lines. - can be used to make a binded value representing text of file
  // But better do the same as above (for binary file)
  $fileAsArray = file('test.txt');


  // Creating array with binding values
  $binds_array = array( 25, 2020, "Smith Jones Binded", $filecontents, $fileAsArray , NULL);

  valentina_query("INSERT INTO ".test_table." (age, salary, name, test1, test2, v) VALUES(:1, :2, :3, :4, :5, :6)", $binds_array) or
        die( "insert statement crashed!");


  PDO
  ------

  How to pass nulls as binded value.

  Example:

  $name = "Frost";
  $sql = "INSERT INTO Person (Name, Age ) VALUES (?, ?)";
  $sth = $dbh->prepare($sql);
  $sth->bindValue(1 , $name, PDO::PARAM_STR);
  $sth->bindValue(2 , NULL,  PDO::PARAM_NULL);
  $sth->execute();

  Actually it concats the string to be:
  INSERT INTO Person (Name, Age ) VALUES ('Frost', NULL)
  And pass it to the engine.



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