From alindsay at mac.com Sat Oct 1 06:59:23 2005 From: alindsay at mac.com (Alex Lindsay) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:18:48 2005 Subject: VDatabase In an RB Module In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1dc7b985a9df175ee03ea1a285f0e9f0@mac.com> This is what I do. I actually have categories of preferences so I can read/write a set of preferences at one time. I use a dictionary as the main container that passes the preferences back and forth to the database module. This allows me to load all the preferences for a window, for instance, into a dictionary that is a property of the window, then all RB code just accesses the dictionary. Works well enough that I haven't had any issues. Thank you, Alex Lindsay On Sep 29, 2005, at 1:35 PM, jda wrote: >> Some of it is pretty straight forward. >> >> [1] Create the module. >> [2] Set up the properties of the database and table(s). > > My advice is to create a record with generic properties: > > integerField > booleanField > textField > etc. (more than one of the same type if needed). > > Have one field called 'propertyName' (or whatever). > > Then create a record for each property you want to install and use the > appropriate field to store the value. For example, to store a boolean > for showing/hiding a palette, you might create a record where > > propertyName = 'showPallete' > > and > > booleanField = true/false > > When you want to fetch the preference value, do an sql search for a > record WHERE propertyName = 'showPalette' and retrieve booleanField. > > This way you can add or remove preferences without having to change > the schema for the db (which only causes headaches when you upgrade > your product). > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 3 22:49:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:21:45 2005 Subject: Thanks for purchasing Valentina for REALbasic In-Reply-To: <434173DF.3020306@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/3/05 9:09 PM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: Hi Leo, > Hi Ruslan, > >> >> Then check for such classes the parent in the property inspector >> > > This was not a golden but a platina tip! The class had become "Object" after > moving out and back into the project! > > There is now only ONE syntactic problem left, I cannot find the reason for. > A code example: followup1nrfld = new VUShort( "followup1nr",EVFlags.fNullable) > The compiler complaints that EVFlags does not exist! What am I doing wrong. As far as I see in the auto-complleation help, it is named EVFlag No 's' on end > When this is fixed, I can compile and test the program! > > Thanks so much, -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Oct 3 16:15:14 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:21:56 2005 Subject: getting recID of just-added record Message-ID: <8e49bb746db24eff6edaf2bade62c471@desuetude.com> Is there a way to get the recID of a record once it has been added? Even for local databases, the trick of reading it from the recID field of the cursor does not appear to work anymore. -------------- Charles Yeomans From bitterlich at gsco.de Tue Oct 4 11:53:06 2005 From: bitterlich at gsco.de (Frank Bitterlich) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:23:00 2005 Subject: [V4RB 1.11] Database on CD-ROM Message-ID: Hi, I'm having an urgent problem with V4RB v1.11 (RB 5.5.5) that appears to show up only on Windows 98. I'm burning a CD-ROM with a little RB app and a Valentina DB for our customers to be executed directly from the CD. But on Win 98, the app refuses to open the DB; VDatabase.Open() returns false, and the .ErrNumber is "5" afterwards (I didn't find 5 in the docs; and it is a positive number, so it shouldn't be a Windows error code, should it?) The .ErrString is empty; the Database is located at "D:\GSCO- MGST.VDB". I can access the FolderItem itself just fine. On Win XP, it works fine; it also works if I copy the stuff from the CD onto the harddisk. What can be the reason for that? What can I do? In this scenario, installing the app and database on harddisk is not an option, it has to be executed from the CD. Of course, this happens just before a deadline :(, I'll have to produce 60 CDs tomorrow... help! Thanks, Frank+++ -- G?nter Schmidt & Co. oHG Frank Bitterlich eMail: bitterlich@gsco.de Schlosserstr. 4 WWW: http://www.gsco.de/ D-60322 Frankfurt Tel.: 069 / 156809-29 GERMANY Fax: 069 / 156809-28 From ayu8 at cdc.gov Tue Oct 4 08:15:59 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:23:39 2005 Subject: [Ignore - Test] Message-ID: It seems awfully quiet in here. Just checking to see if it is just me. -John From yeomans at desuetude.com Tue Oct 4 16:29:18 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:24:37 2005 Subject: VCursor.AddRecord Message-ID: As has been discussed before, there isn't a way to get the recID of a record just added with VCursor.AddRecord. Because my code depended on this being possible in V4RB 1, I'm being forced to resort to a hack. It certainly seems reasonable to me to return the recID of the new record from AddRecord, replacing the apparently useless value now returned. To handle Ruslan's vision of an AddRecord that supports 1-1 relationships, all that needs to be done is to define which recID is returned, since given it one can retrieve the recID of the related record. -------------- Charles Yeomans From alindsay at mac.com Tue Oct 4 22:03:14 2005 From: alindsay at mac.com (Alex Lindsay) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:25:01 2005 Subject: Test-Please ignore In-Reply-To: References: <3DC06D8B-4C2E-4E1F-8A3C-F9FBCDDA9EB8@pcisys.net> <25c7c25d372329f3e815deea42d8026f@desuetude.com> <5DCE6362-FEDE-4879-A228-728D98047975@pcisys.net> Message-ID: <0ea8c7ee4f61664691f2f599c53a3c03@mac.com> Test From rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp Wed Oct 5 13:56:55 2005 From: rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp (ron barber) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:25:07 2005 Subject: test - ignore In-Reply-To: References: <4398F0A6-AC13-4256-9BF5-3AF4D2EB0B67@gsco.de> <1EDB1271-F993-43B8-AF83-DB8A9C753FCC@wanadoo.fr> <5A7D921C-F31D-465E-85E3-4116F902F03D@gsco.de> <4BA31604-9716-45E1-8365-5DAF644BE22F@gsco.de> Message-ID: <96debbd7f9692a535d3c8fb7cf3c4822@yhb.att.ne.jp> From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 11:30:27 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:25:32 2005 Subject: [SQL] why query now work? In-Reply-To: <4342B3CE.2030401@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/4/05 7:54 PM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > The previous log was with old database (v1). I now also ran the converted one, > but I see no difference. Perhaps you do? PARAM: inQuery = "Select * from 'problems'" Why you wrap table name by single quotes ??? Must be Select * from problems Or Select * from [problems] MS or Oracle style OR Select * from "problems" SQL92 The last 2 forms are needed if name have spaces -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 14:37:05 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:26:07 2005 Subject: AW: bug report In-Reply-To: <20E81FA1A1DD404F87AC7DE3E01E28A5026FB708@mlts1.lt.admin.ch> Message-ID: On 10/5/05 1:47 PM, "martin.schaffner@swisstopo.ch" wrote: >> Probably, but should only as read only right ? >> > Yes, as it can't open it read-write, it should try opening it readonly. >> >>> This problem would not exist if I was able to open a VDB file readonly, >>> independant of any permissions (OpenDatabaseReadonly("file.vdb")). Could >> you >>> add a request into the bug tracking system for that? >> >> I think better recognize that file is readonly thanks to permissions, >> And open it as readonly automatically. >> > It is necessary that Valentina recognizes that the file is readonly. It does > not matter if this works thanks to permissions or thanks to the error code > that results from trying to open it read-write, or both. > But on the other hand, I would still like to have a Valentina function that > lets me open a file readonly even if I would be able to open it read-write, > because opening it read-write prevents other instances of the application to > open it at all. > I know I could have multiple database users with client > server technology, but I prefer to do it simply with two instances of my > application, without having to set up a server. So you want db can be sometimes read only, sometimes read/write depending on choice of db.open() ? I see. > Could you please add a request for a new function OpenDatabaseReadonly (or > argument to the function OpenDatabase, to do it readonly)? Thank you! Why you self not add it? :-) http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/bt/ -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bitterlich at gsco.de Tue Oct 4 12:12:39 2005 From: bitterlich at gsco.de (Frank Bitterlich) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:26:23 2005 Subject: V4RB 1.11 - Database on CD-ROM Message-ID: <6739EFD8-6AC3-4DCD-A3B0-2BA0ACA104B1@gsco.de> (Sorry for resending this, the first one didn't get through apparently...) Hi, I'm having an urgent problem with V4RB v1.11 (RB 5.5.5) that appears to show up only on Windows 98. I'm burning a CD-ROM with a little RB app and a Valentina DB for our customers to be executed directly from the CD. But on Win 98, the app refuses to open the DB; VDatabase.Open() returns false, and the .ErrNumber is "5" afterwards (I didn't find 5 in the docs; and it is a positive number, so it shouldn't be a Windows error code, should it?) The .ErrString is empty; the Database is located at "D:\GSCO- MGST.VDB". I can access the FolderItem itself just fine. On Win XP, it works fine; it also works if I copy the stuff from the CD onto the harddisk. What can be the reason for that? What can I do? In this scenario, installing the app and database on harddisk is not an option, it has to be executed from the CD. Of course, this happens just before a deadline :(, I'll have to produce 60 CDs tomorrow... help! Thanks, Frank+++ -- G?nter Schmidt & Co. oHG Frank Bitterlich eMail: bitterlich@gsco.de Schlosserstr. 4 WWW: http://www.gsco.de/ D-60322 Frankfurt Tel.: 069 / 156809-29 GERMANY Fax: 069 / 156809-28 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 15:52:28 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:52:35 2005 Subject: VCursor.AddRecord In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/4/05 11:29 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: Hi Charles, > Is there a way to get the recID of a record once it has been added? > Even for local databases, the trick of reading it from the recID field > of the cursor does not appear to work anymore. Ops! It must work!!! As for local so for client versions Ivan please check this ASAP. ------------------------- And > As has been discussed before, there isn't a way to get the recID of a > record just added with VCursor.AddRecord. Because my code depended on > this being possible in V4RB 1, I'm being forced to resort to a hack. > It certainly seems reasonable to me to return the recID of the new > record from AddRecord, replacing the apparently useless value now > returned. > > To handle Ruslan's vision of an AddRecord that supports 1-1 > relationships, all that needs to be done is to define which recID is > returned, since given it one can retrieve the recID of the related > record. Well may be. I do not see then way to support 1-1... And in fact I think this is wrong idea... We need add entity of real world. This is atomic operation. So if think that Vcursor.AddRecord, works on original singlel table, Then yes, probably we can return RecID... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 15:58:28 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 07:58:45 2005 Subject: size of VVarChar fields In-Reply-To: <95EFD721-EF98-404B-91A1-0353E304789E@Parizek.com> Message-ID: On 9/30/05 9:05 PM, "Dave Parizek" wrote: Hi Dave, > In V4RB1.x, VVarChar fields were limited to size of 504 (chars?). This was not limit! This was the best minimal size. > Now max length can be up to 65535 bytes. In v1 you also could use up to 64K > With default RB encoding (UTF-8?), how many bytes per character? Note, V4RB convert all into UTF16, and keep on disk in UTF16. We must yet implement storage in UTF8. UTF8 is problematic, that different languages will use different number of bytes per character. > 2? So VVarChar can now be substantilly larger, and could be used > instead of VText in more cases. Note, VarChar[1022] -- means 1022 UTF16 characters. so on disk such string will use 2044 bytes. > How to decide which to use? Old question. TEXT is the only choice if you do not know limit. If limit is less of 64K you can use VarChar > How does this effect speed? Or rather, what considerations should we > keep in mind to maximize speed or when considering the performance/ > functionality tradeoff? I afraid give here some rules. Do benchmark for you task and data. And see results -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 16:02:39 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 08:02:47 2005 Subject: V4RB2 much slower with Einhugur Datagrid than V4RB1.x? In-Reply-To: <61F07113-2FF5-4A2B-9E0E-857F0B1845EF@Parizek.com> Message-ID: On 10/1/05 12:28 AM, "Dave Parizek" wrote: > I just converted my project (actually for the 3rd time) to V4RB 2. > > With V4RB2 my project is now much slower than with V4RB1.x at > populating an Einhugur DataGrid with about 2000 rows. Slower to the > point that I can't use 2.0 and have to go back to 1.x if I can't > figure out how to speed it up. Which especially bites because I want > to upgrade to the server version. > > I am using the classes way, running a sqlselect to get a cursor, and > passing that cursor to the DataGrid's RequestRowData to fill the > DataGrid. > > Is anyone else using DataGrid with Valentina 2? > Is yours much slower (if at least 1000 rows), or do I have something > messed up? > > Ruslan said selection in 2.0 is faster than 1.x. So is maybe random > cursor access still much slower? Is classes way the wrong way to go > now -- should I be using the new way if I need speed? It is faster on searches, AddRecord and it seems iteration of VarChar fields is slower. VarChar fields -- we know where is problem, and we will fix that. So describe me your cursor please. How many fields? How many VarChars here? What means MUCH slower? We have see about 1.8 - 2 times slower. You see the same rate ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Wed Oct 5 09:17:20 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Oct 5 08:17:26 2005 Subject: Valentina defaulting to VComponents a problem Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Apps using Valentina can have the component files in the same folder as the app or in VComponents on the system drive. If both are present, Valentina uses VComponents. This is causing a problem. I have a user of my app who *also* installed Valentina at some time (nothing to do with my app). My app crashed on launch -- we tracked it down to the fact that his VComponents was an older version than the one shipping with my app. Can you please have Valentina use the components in the same folder as the app as the first option. If they are not present, then look in VComponents? (this is also a problem when debugging new versions of Valentina, BTW, since I often keep the old one in VComponents). That is, the components in the app's folder (or bundle, in the future for V4RB) should take precedence over anything in VComponents. Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 16:22:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 08:22:55 2005 Subject: Valentina defaulting to VComponents a problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/5/05 4:17 PM, "jda" wrote: Hi Jon, > Hi Ruslan, > > Apps using Valentina can have the component files in the same folder > as the app or in VComponents on the system drive. If both are > present, Valentina uses VComponents. This is causing a problem. I > have a user of my app who *also* installed Valentina at some time > (nothing to do with my app). My app crashed on launch -- we tracked > it down to the fact that his VComponents was an older version than > the one shipping with my app. > > Can you please have Valentina use the components in the same folder > as the app as the first option. If they are not present, then look in > VComponents? (this is also a problem when debugging new versions of > Valentina, BTW, since I often keep the old one in VComponents). That > is, the components in the app's folder (or bundle, in the future for > V4RB) should take precedence over anything in VComponents. I see, yes this should be fixed MacOS should check app folder in first turn. I will check if Valentina code do the same... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From fitzbew at nc.rr.com Wed Oct 5 14:40:53 2005 From: fitzbew at nc.rr.com (RB User) Date: Wed Oct 5 13:41:03 2005 Subject: [V4RB] - 2nd vCursor on DB is always Nil Message-ID: Using V4RB 2.0.5, OS X.3.9, RB2005r3 *** I have a local database that I create in code using dbDatabase.Create(). The db has only two tables, each has an identical structure. Just named differently. After I create/open the database, I run this query: strQuery = "select distinct wxObsDate from wxDevData where location_key = '000004' order by wxObsDate" rstRecordSet = dbValaDatabase.SqlSelect(strQuery, EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, EVLockType.kReadOnly, EVCursorDirection.kForwardOnly) The vCursor returns, and behaves perfectly normal, as expected. I then set it to Nil. (rstRecordSet = Nil) I then create a new cursor, on the OTHER table in the same database: strQuery = "select * from wxDevData_toaster" rstRecordSet = dbValaDatabase.SqlSelect(strQuery, EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, EVLockType.kReadWrite, EVCursorDirection.kRandom) This second cursor is ALWAYS nil, no matter what I try. DIAGNOSE finds no problems. REINDEX doesn't help. Same situation whether the tables are empty, or have only one record each. The V4RB logs show no error, just a Return Object of 0. I have experimented with different EV flags when creating the cursor, no luck. If I omit the first cursor, the second cursor is created successfully. One thing I noticed during my experimentation to find a work around: If I build the cursor using the New vCursor(dbref, query, etc..) syntax, the cursor comes back as valid, but it's db reference in the RB2005 debugger is Nil. However, the db is NOT nil within the RB procedure. Any ideas as far as what I may be doing wrong or overlooking? I'm just becoming familiar with V4RB 2.x, so I could easily be making a newbie error. (Ruslan, I have a small project that recreates the problem, and I'd be glad to send you. Since I've imposed on you so much the last few days, I thought I'd try this list first.) -- Russ Tyndall Wake Forest, NC From lists at mangomultimedia.com Wed Oct 5 12:01:44 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:01:53 2005 Subject: V4RB 1.11 - Database on CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <6739EFD8-6AC3-4DCD-A3B0-2BA0ACA104B1@gsco.de> References: <6739EFD8-6AC3-4DCD-A3B0-2BA0ACA104B1@gsco.de> Message-ID: <94E24A72-DC57-435A-AF71-309E0BB0EF46@mangomultimedia.com> On Oct 4, 2005, at 3:12 AM, Frank Bitterlich wrote: > (Sorry for resending this, the first one didn't get through > apparently...) > > Hi, > I'm having an urgent problem with V4RB v1.11 (RB 5.5.5) that > appears to show up only on Windows 98. > > I'm burning a CD-ROM with a little RB app and a Valentina DB for > our customers to be executed directly from the CD. But on Win 98, > the app refuses to open the DB; VDatabase.Open() returns false, and > the .ErrNumber is "5" afterwards (I didn't find 5 in the docs; and > it is a positive number, so it shouldn't be a Windows error code, > should it?) By any chance is the database in the root level of the CD-ROM? I've never confirmed this but I seem to have read once that win98 can have issues with executables and such on the root level of a CD-ROM. No idea if this is true but perhaps something to take a look at if you are having weird problems. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 22:27:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:27:27 2005 Subject: [V4RB] - 2nd vCursor on DB is always Nil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/5/05 9:40 PM, "RB User" wrote: > (Ruslan, I have a small project that recreates the problem, and I'd be glad > to send you. Since I've imposed on you so much the last few days, I thought > I'd try this list first.) As far as I see, you do correct steps So yes please send us project -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 5 15:32:47 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:32:51 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version Message-ID: <609c51f6c9161391ed51793cf135657d@desuetude.com> Is there a function that returns the current file format value for checking against Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? -------------- Charles Yeomans From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 22:38:07 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:38:08 2005 Subject: VCursor.AddRecord In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25797019.20051005223807@public.kherson.ua> Hello Charles, Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 11:29:18 PM, you wrote: CY> As has been discussed before, there isn't a way to get the recID of a CY> record just added with VCursor.AddRecord. Because my code depended on CY> this being possible in V4RB 1, I'm being forced to resort to a hack. CY> It certainly seems reasonable to me to return the recID of the new CY> record from AddRecord, replacing the apparently useless value now CY> returned. I'm afraid I did not get the point, but actually AddRecord() returns the new record's REC_ID. Meanwhile we've discovered another glitch with RecID field. After Cursor::AddRecord() call cursor's RecID field (if any) stays unchanged. It's fixed but not available for download yet. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 5 15:56:44 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 14:56:48 2005 Subject: VCursor.AddRecord In-Reply-To: <25797019.20051005223807@public.kherson.ua> References: <25797019.20051005223807@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <6cf55e7258b8d058f4e7c8ddce3aa93c@desuetude.com> On Oct 5, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > Hello Charles, > > Tuesday, October 4, 2005, 11:29:18 PM, you wrote: > > CY> As has been discussed before, there isn't a way to get the recID > of a > CY> record just added with VCursor.AddRecord. Because my code > depended on > CY> this being possible in V4RB 1, I'm being forced to resort to a > hack. > CY> It certainly seems reasonable to me to return the recID of the new > CY> record from AddRecord, replacing the apparently useless value now > CY> returned. > > I'm afraid I did not get the point, but actually AddRecord() returns > the new record's REC_ID. > Meanwhile we've discovered another glitch with RecID field. After > Cursor::AddRecord() call cursor's RecID field (if any) stays > unchanged. It's fixed but not available for download yet. This is the point. Thanks. That the recID field is updated if present should be documented; I will add a request for that. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 5 23:14:56 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 15:15:01 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <609c51f6c9161391ed51793cf135657d@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/5/05 10:32 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > Is there a function that returns the current file format value for > checking against Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? But Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion do return in fact this file format Or what you mean? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 5 16:38:50 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 15:38:56 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <667907aede96b46d2d53409f1bd450ad@desuetude.com> On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/5/05 10:32 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> Is there a function that returns the current file format value for >> checking against Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? > > But Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion do return in fact this file format > > Or what you mean? Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion returns the format of the file passed to it. I want a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion that returns the file format used by V4Rb. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 00:15:56 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 5 16:16:01 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <667907aede96b46d2d53409f1bd450ad@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/5/05 11:38 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 10/5/05 10:32 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> >>> Is there a function that returns the current file format value for >>> checking against Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? >> >> But Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion do return in fact this file format >> >> Or what you mean? > > Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion returns the format of the file passed to > it. right > I want a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion that returns the file > format used by V4Rb. By engine itself ??? I.e. For V4RB2 this method will return 2.0.5 ? I still cannot catch idea it seems, and why you need this ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 5 17:26:54 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 5 16:26:58 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <33fc0d094dd043cf014c6e5e412f8343@desuetude.com> On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/5/05 11:38 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> >> On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> On 10/5/05 10:32 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a function that returns the current file format value for >>>> checking against Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? >>> >>> But Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion do return in fact this file format >>> >>> Or what you mean? >> >> Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion returns the format of the file passed to >> it. > > right > >> I want a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion that returns the file >> format used by V4Rb. > > By engine itself ??? > > I.e. For V4RB2 this method will return 2.0.5 ? > > I still cannot catch idea it seems, and why you need this ? Suppose the file format changes in 2.0.6. If my application attempts to open a file created using 2.0.5, I may not want to have 2.0.6 automatically update the file format (which is what happened with V4Rb 1), thus making the file possibly unreadable by the previous version of my application. -------------- Charles Yeomans From info at vallemediatime.com Wed Oct 5 23:34:08 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Wed Oct 5 16:34:10 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query Message-ID: <000801c5c9f4$84ea06a0$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Ruslan, this simple query not works, why? query = "SELECT RecID, * from Person WHERE fPerson_ID = 1001" -- Table Person is: on CreateTable_Person Person = gDb.createTable("Person") Person.createShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") end Thanks Paolo From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Wed Oct 5 16:01:43 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Wed Oct 5 17:01:57 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query In-Reply-To: <000801c5c9f4$84ea06a0$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> References: <000801c5c9f4$84ea06a0$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: <06CFC238-5F21-439E-9ECA-853869DEE6EF@goodeast.com> Hi Paolo, On Oct 5, 2005, at 3:34 PM, wrote: > this simple query not works, why? > > query = "SELECT RecID, * from Person WHERE fPerson_ID = 1001" > > -- Table Person is: > on CreateTable_Person > Person = gDb.createTable("Person") > Person.createShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) > Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) > Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") > end That is certainly valid SQL. Have you tried the SQL in ViSQL or VStudio? Can you be more specific about what does not work? Best regards, Frank Schima From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 00:18:35 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Wed Oct 5 17:18:39 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query References: <000801c5c9f4$84ea06a0$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> <06CFC238-5F21-439E-9ECA-853869DEE6EF@goodeast.com> Message-ID: <000e01c5c9fa$ba670d90$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Schima" To: "Valentina Developers" Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query > Hi Paolo, > > > On Oct 5, 2005, at 3:34 PM, wrote: > > > this simple query not works, why? > > > > query = "SELECT RecID, * from Person WHERE fPerson_ID = 1001" > > > > -- Table Person is: > > on CreateTable_Person > > Person = gDb.createTable("Person") > > Person.createShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) > > Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) > > Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") > > end > > That is certainly valid SQL. Have you tried the SQL in ViSQL or > VStudio? Can you be more specific about what does not work? query = "SELECT RecID, * from Person WHERE fPerson_ID = 1001" put gCursor.recordCount -- 0 if in the same script I write query = "SELECT RecID, * from Person WHERE fPersonType_Ref = 1" gCursor = gDb.sqlSelect(query, #kServer, gLockType, #kRandom) put gCursor.recordCount -- 104 both value (1001 and 1) exist in relative table.fields Tomorrow I can try with VStudio or VStudio Thanks Paolo > Best regards, > Frank Schima > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 29/09/2005 > > From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 00:32:31 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Wed Oct 5 17:32:33 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query References: <000801c5c9f4$84ea06a0$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2><06CFC238-5F21-439E-9ECA-853869DEE6EF@goodeast.com> <000e01c5c9fa$ba670d90$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: <000b01c5c9fc$acc32960$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Frank and list, I've found the error or bug... if I change the fieldType in the CreateTable_Person the query works eg Person.createStringField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) -- ok Person.createShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) -- not works with simple query please check this! Thanks Paolo From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 09:42:50 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 01:43:10 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Probem with a simple query In-Reply-To: <000b01c5c9fc$acc32960$9f4d3897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/6/05 1:32 AM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > Hi Frank and list, > > I've found the error or bug... > > if I change the fieldType in the CreateTable_Person the query works > eg > Person.createStringField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) -- ok > Person.createShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) -- not works with simple > query > > please check this! Paolo, please send us db and query which not work -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 09:51:32 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 01:51:37 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <33fc0d094dd043cf014c6e5e412f8343@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/6/05 12:26 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> I want a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion that returns the file >>> format used by V4Rb. >> >> By engine itself ??? >> >> I.e. For V4RB2 this method will return 2.0.5 ? >> >> I still cannot catch idea it seems, and why you need this ? > > Suppose the file format changes in 2.0.6. If my application attempts > to open a file created using 2.0.5, I may not want to have 2.0.6 > automatically update the file format (which is what happened with V4Rb > 1), thus making the file possibly unreadable by the previous version of > my application. I see, Charles, Valentina.DatabaseVersion do exactly what you want as I See. It extracts version of file format from closed file. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 6 13:01:34 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 6 12:01:38 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 6, 2005, at 2:51 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/6/05 12:26 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>>> I want a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion that returns the file >>>> format used by V4Rb. >>> >>> By engine itself ??? >>> >>> I.e. For V4RB2 this method will return 2.0.5 ? >>> >>> I still cannot catch idea it seems, and why you need this ? >> >> Suppose the file format changes in 2.0.6. If my application attempts >> to open a file created using 2.0.5, I may not want to have 2.0.6 >> automatically update the file format (which is what happened with V4Rb >> 1), thus making the file possibly unreadable by the previous version >> of >> my application. > > I see, > > Charles, > > Valentina.DatabaseVersion do exactly what you want as I See. > > It extracts version of file format from closed file. But what do I compare it to? If I upgrade my app with a new version of V4RB, perhaps the file format has changed. How do I know? -------------- Charles Yeomans From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 21:51:49 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 6 14:51:52 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() Message-ID: <000a01c5caaf$644a84e0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi list, I need to better understand the use of Table.setBlank method I've tried this: on CreateTable_Person Person = gDb.createTable("Person") Person.createUShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") end on AddRecordsTo_Person Person = gDb.table(Person) fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") curTable.setBlank() curTable.addRecord() end When I add a record I want to set all Person.fields to EMPTY... is this script right or is better someother code? Thanks Paolo From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 21:56:53 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 6 14:56:59 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() References: <000a01c5caaf$644a84e0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: <000801c5cab0$1b980690$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Sorry my copy and paste mistake in this lines: curTable.setBlank() curTable.addRecord() become: Person.setBlank() Person.addRecord() Paolo ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Valentina Developers" Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() Hi list, I need to better understand the use of Table.setBlank method I've tried this: on CreateTable_Person Person = gDb.createTable("Person") Person.createUShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") end on AddRecordsTo_Person Person = gDb.table(Person) fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") curTable.setBlank() curTable.addRecord() end When I add a record I want to set all Person.fields to EMPTY... is this script right or is better someother code? Thanks Paolo _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 29/09/2005 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 23:01:39 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:01:44 2005 Subject: [V4RB] - 2nd vCursor on DB is always Nil In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/6/05 10:47 PM, "RB User" wrote: >> Hello RB, >> >> Thursday, October 6, 2005, 1:13:01 AM, you wrote: >> >> RU> Attached is RB2005r3 project using V4RB 2.0.5. >> >> RU> Just click button and step through debugger. For some reason, 2nd cursor >> RU> always comes back Nil to me. >> >> Actually this is a parser bug. I have reported about it to the Mantis >> self. >> > > Yes, I see Mantis ID 0001086. Thank you, Ivan! > >> So, you are wrong with the first query: >> strQuery = "select distinct wxObsDate from wxDevData where >> location_key = '" + strLocKeyForFile + "' '" _... >> >> >> Take a look on this place: "' '". It would be odd quotation here. >> select distinct wxObsDate from wxDevData where location_key = '000400' 'order >> by wxObsDat >> instead of: >> select distinct wxObsDate from wxDevData where location_key = '000400' >> order by wxObsDat >> > > Yes! When I remove the extra apostrophe from the FIRST sqlselect, it makes > the second vCursor run successfully! > > What is weird is, the first query appears to run ok, despite syntax error. > But you noted that fact in Mantis. > >> BTW you can see the parser results in the FBL_TreeParser.txt log. > > That's not available to me is it? Not available. This happens only when engine in debug mode. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 23:04:55 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/6/05 8:01 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Valentina.DatabaseVersion do exactly what you want as I See. >> >> It extracts version of file format from closed file. > > But what do I compare it to? If I upgrade my app with a new version of > V4RB, perhaps the file format has changed. How do I know? But you know your Current Format, So you can write if anything new then do ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 23:09:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:09:51 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() In-Reply-To: <000801c5cab0$1b980690$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/6/05 10:56 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > Hi list, > I need to better understand the use of Table.setBlank method > > I've tried this: > > on CreateTable_Person > Person = gDb.createTable("Person") > Person.createUShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) > Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) > Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") > end > > on AddRecordsTo_Person > Person = gDb.table(Person) > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") > curTable.setBlank() > curTable.addRecord() > end > > When I add a record I want to set all Person.fields to EMPTY... is this > script right or is better someother code? Of course it will be empty! :-) Look what you do: 1) you enter new values for fields > Person = gDb.table(Person) > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") 2) then you do SetBlank() OOOOOOOOOOPS You have erase all your new values ! The correct code is: -------------------------------------- on AddRecordsTo_Person Person = gDb.table(Person) Person.setBlank() fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") curTable.addRecord() end -------------------------------------- Wait wait wait wait. Paolo, you have even double mistake. fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") This only give you fields. But I do not se any line to add new values. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 6 16:34:59 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:35:02 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4241bf9c5e1cf97fbe33a39f048ebfc3@desuetude.com> On Oct 6, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/6/05 8:01 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> Valentina.DatabaseVersion do exactly what you want as I See. >>> >>> It extracts version of file format from closed file. >> >> But what do I compare it to? If I upgrade my app with a new version >> of >> V4RB, perhaps the file format has changed. How do I know? > > But you know your Current Format, > So you can write > > if anything new then do ... I mean the Valentina database file format. As you know, it changed from v1 to v2. So I should write code like If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then ... Else Msgbox "This is a v1 file." End if Now suppose that you change the Valentina file format again. What I want is a function that returns &h200 now, and the correct value in the future. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 23:40:16 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:40:24 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <4241bf9c5e1cf97fbe33a39f048ebfc3@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/6/05 11:34 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> But you know your Current Format, >> So you can write >> >> if anything new then do ... > > I mean the Valentina database file format. As you know, it changed > from v1 to v2. So I should write code like > > If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then > ... > Else > Msgbox "This is a v1 file." > End if > > Now suppose that you change the Valentina file format again. What I > want is a function that returns &h200 now, and the correct value in the > future. Charles, You have not read my text deeply: this function EXTRACT version from db file ! So it will always work correctly for a given file -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 22:51:53 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:51:58 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() References: Message-ID: <003101c5cab7$cadd3dd0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruslan Zasukhin" To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:09 PM Subject: Re: V4MD Info about setBlank() > On 10/6/05 10:56 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" > wrote: > > > Hi list, > > I need to better understand the use of Table.setBlank method > > > > I've tried this: > > > > on CreateTable_Person > > Person = gDb.createTable("Person") > > Person.createUShortField("fPerson_ID", [#fUnique]) > > Person.createStringField("fPerson_Name", 20) > > Person.createByteField("fPersonType_Ref") > > end > > > > on AddRecordsTo_Person > > Person = gDb.table(Person) > > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") > > curTable.setBlank() > > curTable.addRecord() > > end > > > > When I add a record I want to set all Person.fields to EMPTY... is this > > script right or is better someother code? > > Of course it will be empty! :-) > > Look what you do: > > 1) you enter new values for fields > > Person = gDb.table(Person) > > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") > > 2) then you do SetBlank() > > OOOOOOOOOOPS > > You have erase all your new values ! > > The correct code is: > > -------------------------------------- > on AddRecordsTo_Person > > Person = gDb.table(Person) > > Person.setBlank() > > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") > > curTable.addRecord() > > end > -------------------------------------- > > Wait wait wait wait. > > Paolo, you have even double mistake. > > fPerson_ID = Person.field("fPerson_ID") > fPerson_Name = Person.field("fPerson_Name") > fPersonType_Ref = Person.field("fPersonType_Ref") > > This only give you fields. But I do not se any line to add new values. Ivan wrote me now about the addRecord logical procedure: for me addRecord mean create a new emptyRecord and after write into it's field and at the end update it for you addRecord mean update the current record with the filled fields and after create a newRecord in the first lofical position of DB. Two various ways to think... now I've understand this step. > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/115 - Release Date: 29/09/2005 > > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 6 23:55:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 15:55:52 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() In-Reply-To: <003101c5cab7$cadd3dd0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/6/05 11:51 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > > Ivan wrote me now about the addRecord logical procedure: > for me addRecord mean create a new emptyRecord and after write into it's > field and at the end update it NO! This logic which you describe really use many other DBs, But Valentina uses other way tbl.SetBlank field fields ----------------- << up to now you have work in RAM only tbl.AddRecord <<< this add record to disk table. > for you addRecord mean update the current record with the filled fields and > after create a newRecord in the first lofical position of DB. > Two various ways to think... now I've understand this step. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 23:04:47 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 6 16:04:48 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() References: Message-ID: <000801c5cab9$957e73a0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> At least can you confirm me that: addRecord() write record into physicall db (HD or other), not in RAM and updateRecord() instead works in RAM... right? Thanks. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 7 00:19:31 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 16:19:35 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() In-Reply-To: <000801c5cab9$957e73a0$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/7/05 12:04 AM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > At least can you confirm me that: > addRecord() write record into physicall db (HD or other), not in RAM > and > updateRecord() instead works in RAM... right? No Both write changes to disk. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 6 23:31:42 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 6 16:31:44 2005 Subject: V4MD Info about setBlank() References: Message-ID: <000801c5cabd$586f5c50$15733897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> > > At least can you confirm me that: > > addRecord() write record into physicall db (HD or other), not in RAM > > and > > updateRecord() instead works in RAM... right? > > No > Both write changes to disk. Ok, but... please add this more cleary in reference, at p.57 I read that addRecord() add.[...] in the memory buffer (= temporary memory... not disk) and so I have always bad understand this point. Ciao Paolo From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 6 17:38:19 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 6 16:38:24 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37990544ccc6543960554630199e1bd3@desuetude.com> On Oct 6, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/6/05 11:34 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> But you know your Current Format, >>> So you can write >>> >>> if anything new then do ... >> >> I mean the Valentina database file format. As you know, it changed >> from v1 to v2. So I should write code like >> >> If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then >> ... >> Else >> Msgbox "This is a v1 file." >> End if >> >> Now suppose that you change the Valentina file format again. What I >> want is a function that returns &h200 now, and the correct value in >> the >> future. > > Charles, > > You have not read my text deeply: > > this function EXTRACT version from db file ! > > So it will always work correctly for a given file Let's try this again. I understand what Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion does; it tells me the file format version of the file. V4Rb expects to see a certain database file format. How am I to know what that format is, so that I can compare that to the value returned by Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? In other words, given the code If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then I want to replace the &h200 on the right-hand side with a Valentina module function that returns the file format version expected by V4Rb. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 7 00:48:54 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 16:48:59 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <37990544ccc6543960554630199e1bd3@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/7/05 12:38 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> I mean the Valentina database file format. As you know, it changed >>> from v1 to v2. So I should write code like >>> >>> If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then >>> ... >>> Else >>> Msgbox "This is a v1 file." >>> End if >>> >>> Now suppose that you change the Valentina file format again. What I >>> want is a function that returns &h200 now, and the correct value in >>> the >>> future. >> >> Charles, >> >> You have not read my text deeply: >> >> this function EXTRACT version from db file ! >> >> So it will always work correctly for a given file > > > Let's try this again. I understand what Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion > does; it tells me the file format version of the file. V4Rb expects to > see a certain database file format. How am I to know what that format > is, so that I can compare that to the value returned by > Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? > > In other words, given the code > > If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then > > I want to replace the &h200 on the right-hand side with a Valentina > module function that returns the file format version expected by V4Rb. Okay, now I better see what you want. Function instead of numeric value? Function which return CURRENT format which plugin do use ? if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then ... Else Msgbox "This is a v1 file." End if Can you show code of task which you cannot solve now ? currentFormatVersion = new function you want() foundFormatVersion = Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) if currentFormatVersion = foundFormatVersion else end ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 6 18:11:21 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 6 17:11:28 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <195a208b5fde4f60ca4d25145c62d700@desuetude.com> On Oct 6, 2005, at 5:48 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/7/05 12:38 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>>> I mean the Valentina database file format. As you know, it changed >>>> from v1 to v2. So I should write code like >>>> >>>> If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then >>>> ... >>>> Else >>>> Msgbox "This is a v1 file." >>>> End if >>>> >>>> Now suppose that you change the Valentina file format again. What I >>>> want is a function that returns &h200 now, and the correct value in >>>> the >>>> future. >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> You have not read my text deeply: >>> >>> this function EXTRACT version from db file ! >>> >>> So it will always work correctly for a given file >> >> >> Let's try this again. I understand what Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion >> does; it tells me the file format version of the file. V4Rb expects >> to >> see a certain database file format. How am I to know what that format >> is, so that I can compare that to the value returned by >> Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion? >> >> In other words, given the code >> >> If Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then >> >> I want to replace the &h200 on the right-hand side with a Valentina >> module function that returns the file format version expected by V4Rb. > > Okay, now I better see what you want. > > Function instead of numeric value? > Function which return CURRENT format which plugin do use ? > > if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then > ... > Else > Msgbox "This is a v1 file." > End if > > Can you show code of task which you cannot solve now ? > > currentFormatVersion = new function you want() > > foundFormatVersion = Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) > > if currentFormatVersion = foundFormatVersion > > else > > end > > ? Right now I can do the following. if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < &h200 then ... Else Msgbox "This is a v1 file." End if If the database file format changes later, I must remember to look for the constant &h200 representing the current Valentina file format and change it. If there were a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion() as Integer, then I can write if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < Valentina.DatabaseVersion() then Msgbox "I need to update the file format." End if and upgrading the plugin does not require changing the code. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 7 02:52:58 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 6 18:53:03 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: <195a208b5fde4f60ca4d25145c62d700@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/7/05 1:11 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > If the database file format changes later, I must remember to look for > the constant &h200 representing the current Valentina file format and > change it. If there were a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion() as > Integer, then I can write > > if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < Valentina.DatabaseVersion() > then > Msgbox "I need to update the file format." > End if > > and upgrading the plugin does not require changing the code. I see now. Can you add request into Mantis ? Should be easy. We have this on c++ level -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 6 19:59:34 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 6 18:59:38 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] File format version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 6, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/7/05 1:11 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> If the database file format changes later, I must remember to look for >> the constant &h200 representing the current Valentina file format and >> change it. If there were a function Valentina.DatabaseVersion() as >> Integer, then I can write >> >> if Valentina.GetDatabaseVersion((theFile) < >> Valentina.DatabaseVersion() >> then >> Msgbox "I need to update the file format." >> End if >> >> and upgrading the plugin does not require changing the code. > > I see now. > > Can you add request into Mantis ? > > Should be easy. We have this on c++ level Done; #1089. For consistency, perhaps both functions should be named GetDatabaseVersion, although my preference would be remove the "Get" from GetDatabaseVersion. -------------- Charles Yeomans From cmsheffield at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 10:34:53 2005 From: cmsheffield at gmail.com (Chris Sheffield) Date: Fri Oct 7 11:34:57 2005 Subject: problem with concat() in query Message-ID: Shouldn't this query work in Valentina 1.x: SELECT CONCAT(LastName, ', ', FirstName), RecID FROM Teachers WHERE SETeacher=0 AND Type=0 ORDER BY LastName I'm getting error "603 field not found" when trying to run it. I've double-checked all field names and all are correct. Is there something I'm not doing correctly? I'm using Revolution, btw. Thanks, Chris ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Fri Oct 7 10:42:57 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Fri Oct 7 11:43:11 2005 Subject: problem with concat() in query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chris, On Oct 7, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Shouldn't this query work in Valentina 1.x: > > SELECT CONCAT(LastName, ', ', FirstName), RecID FROM Teachers WHERE > SETeacher=0 AND Type=0 ORDER BY LastName > > > I'm getting error "603 field not found" when trying to run it. > I've double-checked all field names and all are correct. Is there > something I'm not doing correctly? > > I'm using Revolution, btw. No. You must put that concat statement in a field method in the table and then SELECT that field method. You need Val 2.x to run SQL like that. Even with 2.x, you might need to SELECT LastName by itself also to ORDER BY it. Best regards, Frank Schima From chuck at mediamacros.com Fri Oct 7 14:56:47 2005 From: chuck at mediamacros.com (Chuck Neal) Date: Fri Oct 7 13:52:40 2005 Subject: Studio not copying between databases Message-ID: <4346C4EF.7060007@mediamacros.com> I have a database with 2 tables. I updated one and my colleague updated the other. We now want to merge them so I deleted one table from mine, opened both in Studio and went to import, chose "From valentina client", same database, etc. The fields all map fine and I click done. It runs through, says "Import successfully completed" I click ok and I get... Attempt to insert duplicate key row in object "Dictionary" with unique index "U_Dictionary_word" , then a bunch of kernel errors in the details. What is going on here? Nothing comes in. Newest version of studio and 2 new databases. Thanks. -Chuck -------------------------- Chuck Neal CEO, MediaMacros, Inc. chuck@mediamacros.com http://www.mediamacros.com -------------------------- Check out the Developers Mall Your one stop shop for all your Director Xtra Needs http://www.mediamacros.net/customer From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 7 22:14:37 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 7 14:14:42 2005 Subject: How to reduce the icudt30.dll size ?? In-Reply-To: <000001c5cb65$79678510$c800a8c0@THOMASRUELLAN> Message-ID: On 10/7/05 8:35 PM, "Thomas Ruellan" wrote: Hi Thomas, > Hello, > > I would like to know how can i reduce the size of the icudt30.dll file as > mentioned in the documentation. > What is the tool to do it for Windows and for Mac (icudt30b.dat) ?? > Thanks a lot, > Thomas Ruellan. This should be some utility from IBM ICU package. They have some command line utilities which can massage .dat file. E.g. Remove some languages from it. But I have not try this. Detailed docs can be found on IBM site of ICU. Thomas, why you want reduce it? You going do downloaded software? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 7 22:20:04 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 7 14:20:13 2005 Subject: Studio not copying between databases In-Reply-To: <4346C4EF.7060007@mediamacros.com> Message-ID: On 10/7/05 9:56 PM, "Chuck Neal" wrote: > I have a database with 2 tables. I updated one and my colleague updated > the other. We now want to merge them so I deleted one table from mine, > opened both in Studio and went to import, chose "From valentina client", > same database, etc. The fields all map fine and I click done. It runs > through, says "Import successfully completed" > > I click ok and I get... > > Attempt to insert duplicate key row in object "Dictionary" with unique > index "U_Dictionary_word" , then a bunch of kernel errors in the details. > > What is going on here? Nothing comes in. Newest version of studio and > 2 new databases. Thanks. Hi Chuck, This is question to Valentina-studio list better. * Well, point one: we going to REMOVE this Import from other V2 database. Why? Because this was attempt of Jochen todo some good feature, but it do not count all V2 features (such as links and ObjectPtrs and deleted records). So this feature cannot work correctly in all cases. Even in theory. This is why we need remove it. * Now how to solve your task. I want direct you to XML. In V2 we have add XML dump of single table. * and you can load this dump into existed db. * and you can even load dumped records into existed table of other db. We have example on this (at least for Vdatabase). Please check it APi_way/XML... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Sun Oct 9 18:31:42 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Sun Oct 9 11:31:44 2005 Subject: V4MD findValue into UShorField Message-ID: <000b01c5ccee$f0009560$0e243897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Ruslan. I've tred to search into a field set to UShort type: eg Person.createUShortField("Person_ID") my seach eg rs = curTable.field("Person_ID").findValue(1, rs) or rs = curTable.field("Person_ID").findValue("1", rs) but its works only if I set the field ad stringType It' normal? Thanks Paolo From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 9 19:47:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 9 11:47:23 2005 Subject: V4MD findValue into UShorField In-Reply-To: <000b01c5ccee$f0009560$0e243897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/9/05 7:31 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > Hi Ruslan. > > I've tred to search into a field set to UShort type: > eg > Person.createUShortField("Person_ID") > > my seach eg > rs = curTable.field("Person_ID").findValue(1, rs) > or > rs = curTable.field("Person_ID").findValue("1", rs) > > but its works only if I set the field ad stringType > > It' normal? Hard to say. Its need to check our examples. Please do this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Mon Oct 10 13:31:59 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan Hawkins) Date: Mon Oct 10 07:28:54 2005 Subject: OSX Crash Problem Message-ID: <49227.87.74.22.213.1128947519.squirrel@www.mook.co.uk> Hi, I can't get Valentia 2.0.5 working with Director on Mac OSX Tiger. I've tried running both my own projects and the sample files, but all of them cause Director to crash. To install, I downloaded the 2.0.5 dmg file from the site, ran the installer, then copied the Xtra to my xtras folder in Director MX 2004 10.1. The Xtra does appear within the application, but all dir files that use it crash out on me. Any ideas what might be going wrong? cheers, mil. From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Oct 10 08:59:40 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Oct 10 08:59:50 2005 Subject: V4RB2 How to Diagnose a Corrupt DB In-Reply-To: <20051010122900.B40AE3A1966@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051010122900.B40AE3A1966@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: We received a database from a customer this weekend that cannot be opened in RB. Every time we attempt to open we receive a hard crash and get the following crash log: Thread 0 Crashed: 0 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04c03034 0x4884000 + 3665972 1 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04c01f78 _ls__3fblFRQ23fbl9I_OStreamRA26_Cc_RQ23fbl9I_OStream + -3352 2 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04bff514 get_MinPhysicalPageCount__Q23fbl8PageFileCFv + -456 3 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04be90f8 DoIndexFind,Ul,MQ23fbl7I_IndexFPCvPvQ 23fbl26smart_ptrUl_Q23fbl26smart_ptr,Q 23fbl26smart_ptr>__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptr< CQ23fbl7I_Value>UlMQ23fbl7I_IndexFPCvPvQ23fbl26smart_ptrUl_Q23fbl26smart_ptr_Q23fbl26smart_ptr + 176 4 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04be870c FindAsArraySet__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptrQ23f bl25smart_ptrUlQ23fbl7ESearch + 424 5 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04bea544 FindSingle__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptrQ23fbl25 smart_ptrQ23fbl7ESearch + 264 6 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04922e7c FindDescription__Q23fbl18SysItemDescriptionFl + 180 7 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925c80 FindSubItems__Q23fbl7SysItemFUll + 52 8 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925b20 FindProperty__Q23fbl7SysItemFUll + 44 9 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925a5c GetProperty__Q23fbl7SysItemFUllPb + 52 10 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925950 GetProperty__Q23fbl18Schema_OnSysTablesFQ23fbl35smart_ptrQ23fbl11SysItemKindPb + 120 11 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a256f8 ReadProperties__Q23fbl15Localizable_ImpFQ23fbl26smart_ptr + 128 12 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04cd9f88 ReadProperties__Q23fbl8DatabaseFv + 76 13 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x048ed9d8 ReadFromSchema__Q23fbl21I_SchemaStorable_ImplFv + 84 14 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x048e4ca8 Open__Q23fbl8DatabaseFv + 168 15 Plugin 0x01f2aef4 Database_Open__FP16REALobjectStructP20REALfolderItemStruct + 784 As you can see, it happens in the open function. The database is fully encrypted (both data and structure) and we can't open it in studio. How do we diagnose what the problem is? Better yet, how do we get the data out for the customer? We are desperately trying to find answers. If you have any idea, please email me direct as I'm in digest mode. Thanks, Bob Keeney bkeeney@everestkc.net From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 10 17:01:50 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 10 09:01:52 2005 Subject: OSX Crash Problem In-Reply-To: <49227.87.74.22.213.1128947519.squirrel@www.mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/10/05 3:31 PM, "Milan Hawkins" wrote: > Hi, > > I can't get Valentia 2.0.5 working with Director on Mac OSX Tiger. I've > tried running both my own projects and the sample files, but all of them > cause Director to crash. > > To install, I downloaded the 2.0.5 dmg file from the site, ran the > installer, then copied the Xtra to my xtras folder in Director MX 2004 > 10.1. The Xtra does appear within the application, but all dir files that > use it crash out on me. > > Any ideas what might be going wrong? Hi Milan, Do you get Crash log ? Please send it to us. Have you try run our examples? Result ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 10 17:05:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 10 09:05:25 2005 Subject: V4RB2 How to Diagnose a Corrupt DB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/10/05 4:59 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: Hi Bob, > We received a database from a customer this weekend that cannot be > opened in RB. Every time we attempt to open we receive a hard crash > and get the following crash log: > > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04c03034 0x4884000 + 3665972 > 1 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04c01f78 > _ls__3fblFRQ23fbl9I_OStreamRA26_Cc_RQ23fbl9I_OStream + -3352 > 2 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04bff514 > get_MinPhysicalPageCount__Q23fbl8PageFileCFv + -456 > 3 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04be90f8 > DoIndexFind,Ul,MQ23fbl7I_IndexFPCvPvQ > 23fbl26smart_ptrUl_Q23fbl26smart_ptr,Q > 23fbl26smart_ptr>__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptr< > CQ23fbl7I_Value>UlMQ23fbl7I_IndexFPCvPvQ23fbl26smart_ptr> Ul_Q23fbl26smart_ptr_Q23fbl26smart_ptr t> + 176 > 4 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04be870c > FindAsArraySet__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptrQ23f > bl25smart_ptrUlQ23fbl7ESearch + 424 > 5 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04bea544 > FindSingle__Q23fbl9Field_ImpCFQ23fbl26smart_ptrQ23fbl25 > smart_ptrQ23fbl7ESearch + 264 > 6 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04922e7c > FindDescription__Q23fbl18SysItemDescriptionFl + 180 > 7 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925c80 > FindSubItems__Q23fbl7SysItemFUll + 52 > 8 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925b20 > FindProperty__Q23fbl7SysItemFUll + 44 > 9 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925a5c > GetProperty__Q23fbl7SysItemFUllPb + 52 > 10 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04925950 > GetProperty__Q23fbl18Schema_OnSysTablesFQ23fbl35smart_ptr maStorable>Q23fbl11SysItemKindPb + 120 > 11 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a256f8 > ReadProperties__Q23fbl15Localizable_ImpFQ23fbl26smart_ptr a> + 128 > 12 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04cd9f88 > ReadProperties__Q23fbl8DatabaseFv + 76 > 13 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x048ed9d8 > ReadFromSchema__Q23fbl21I_SchemaStorable_ImplFv + 84 > 14 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x048e4ca8 > Open__Q23fbl8DatabaseFv + 168 > 15 Plugin 0x01f2aef4 > Database_Open__FP16REALobjectStructP20REALfolderItemStruct + 784 > > As you can see, it happens in the open function. The database is > fully encrypted (both data and structure) and we can't open it in > studio. How do we diagnose what the problem is? Better yet, how do > we get the data out for the customer? > > We are desperately trying to find answers. If you have any idea, > please email me direct as I'm in digest mode. So simplest: db = new Vdatabase() db.open() ===> crash? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 10 11:42:06 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 10 13:42:11 2005 Subject: enum values for V4REV Message-ID: <00782BDD-C795-4F5B-B84F-4080EE032118@mangomultimedia.com> Where can I get a list of enum values available for V4REV? For instance, I'm looking at VDatabase_Create and it says that the last parameter is inEnumOS with a default value of "kDefault". What other options are there? I assume it would be something like "kMac" and "kWin" but a list would be nice. Also, in the example stack in the Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen example line 19 passes in "kOsDefault" as the last parameter which is not correct according to the docs. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 10 22:08:52 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Mon Oct 10 14:08:56 2005 Subject: enum values for V4REV In-Reply-To: <00782BDD-C795-4F5B-B84F-4080EE032118@mangomultimedia.com> References: <00782BDD-C795-4F5B-B84F-4080EE032118@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: <133210260.20051010220852@public.kherson.ua> Hello Trevor, Monday, October 10, 2005, 9:42:06 PM, you wrote: TD> Where can I get a list of enum values available for V4REV? For TD> instance, I'm looking at VDatabase_Create and it says that the last TD> parameter is inEnumOS with a default value of "kDefault". What other TD> options are there? I assume it would be something like "kMac" and TD> "kWin" but a list would be nice. TD> Also, in the example stack in the TD> Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen TD> example line 19 passes in "kOsDefault" as the last parameter which is TD> not correct according to the docs. We will check the doc. Actually there are such values allowed: "kOsDefault" "kOsMac" "kOsWindows" "kOsUnix" Also you may use V4RB doc - just for now. The enums' values are the same there. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 10 12:28:57 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 10 14:29:05 2005 Subject: enum values for V4REV In-Reply-To: <133210260.20051010220852@public.kherson.ua> References: <00782BDD-C795-4F5B-B84F-4080EE032118@mangomultimedia.com> <133210260.20051010220852@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <8D5F47F5-C6D3-4681-852F-F5DF0D81A638@mangomultimedia.com> On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:08 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > We will check the doc. > Actually there are such values allowed: > "kOsDefault" > "kOsMac" > "kOsWindows" > "kOsUnix" > > > Also you may use V4RB doc - just for now. > The enums' values are the same there. Thanks Ivan. I will download the V4RB docs for now. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 10 13:13:56 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 10 15:14:01 2005 Subject: enum values for V4REV In-Reply-To: <133210260.20051010220852@public.kherson.ua> References: <00782BDD-C795-4F5B-B84F-4080EE032118@mangomultimedia.com> <133210260.20051010220852@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:08 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > > We will check the doc. Ivan, Some other things to check: VCursor_Destructor is not documented. The docs for VDatabase_SqlSelect say to set the cursor to nil to destroy it which is not correct for Rev. The second entry for VDataBase_Constructor is incorrectly listed as VDataBase_VDatabase. This is the example for creation a db ref for a server. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 10 14:44:17 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 10 16:44:26 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? Message-ID: <4270F7B7-5D29-4524-A378-625D6F7641FE@mangomultimedia.com> In the VXCMD there was a Cursor_GetField method that accessed a field value given a cursor reference and the field offset or name. It saved you the step of getting a field ref and then getting the field value. I don't see an equivalent in V4REV docs. Does one exist? -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 09:26:02 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 01:26:09 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: <4270F7B7-5D29-4524-A378-625D6F7641FE@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: On 10/11/05 12:44 AM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > In the VXCMD there was a Cursor_GetField method that accessed a field > value given a cursor reference and the field offset or name. > It saved you the step of getting a field ref and then getting the field > value. I don't see an equivalent in V4REV docs. Does one exist? Aha, I think this one is missed from 1.x Well, I think we have now Cursor_Field( NamOrIndex ) as FieldRef But you want to have something as Cursor_FieldValue( NamOrIndex ) as string Right, Trevor. Ivan, please add such function also. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp Tue Oct 11 17:08:29 2005 From: rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp (ron barber) Date: Tue Oct 11 08:55:39 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7dede27b195758f6fd2183c057140f16@yhb.att.ne.jp> Hi Ruslan, Ivan Please don't forget: > Sorry, we have forgotten some Rev. specific wrappers like > list = DataBase_SQLSelectRecords( > dbRefOrName, SQLstring, [FromRec], [MaxRecords], [fldDelim], > [recDelim] ) > > It would be done for the next build. > > -- > Best regards, > Ivan thanks Ron On Oct 11, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/11/05 12:44 AM, "Trevor DeVore" > wrote: > >> In the VXCMD there was a Cursor_GetField method that accessed a field >> value given a cursor reference and the field offset or name. > >> It saved you the step of getting a field ref and then getting the >> field >> value. I don't see an equivalent in V4REV docs. Does one exist? > > Aha, I think this one is missed from 1.x > > Well, I think we have now > > Cursor_Field( NamOrIndex ) as FieldRef > > But you want to have something as > > Cursor_FieldValue( NamOrIndex ) as string > > Right, Trevor. > > Ivan, please add such function also. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 17:09:44 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Tue Oct 11 09:09:44 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: <7dede27b195758f6fd2183c057140f16@yhb.att.ne.jp> References: <7dede27b195758f6fd2183c057140f16@yhb.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: <95635504.20051011170944@public.kherson.ua> Hello Ron, Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 11:08:29 AM, you wrote: rb> Hi Ruslan, Ivan rb> Please don't forget: >> Sorry, we have forgotten some Rev. specific wrappers like >> list = DataBase_SQLSelectRecords( >> dbRefOrName, SQLstring, [FromRec], [MaxRecords], [fldDelim], >> [recDelim] ) >> Don't worry. It's been done already. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue Oct 11 08:14:02 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue Oct 11 10:14:08 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E70D5FA-6032-4A9F-B54D-5EB9F6969776@mangomultimedia.com> On Oct 10, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Aha, I think this one is missed from 1.x > > Well, I think we have now > > Cursor_Field( NamOrIndex ) as FieldRef > > But you want to have something as > > Cursor_FieldValue( NamOrIndex ) as string > > Right, Trevor. > > Ivan, please add such function also. The other one I found missing was an equivalent to Database_GetBaseObjectName. At least I think that was it. I'm not in front of the code right now. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 17:45:50 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 10:46:06 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Hello, I'm having serious trouble with the Macintosh version: "the program unexpectedly quit" after gDB = new ( Xtra "VDatabase", #kLocal ) (also your examples crash!) I'm using the version now online (2.0.5) on Mac OSX (both 10.1.5 and Tiger), both in Director on the Mac and Mac-projectors created on my Windows-machine Any ideas?? Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 18:51:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 10:51:30 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: <3E70D5FA-6032-4A9F-B54D-5EB9F6969776@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: On 10/11/05 6:14 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > On Oct 10, 2005, at 11:26 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> Aha, I think this one is missed from 1.x >> >> Well, I think we have now >> >> Cursor_Field( NamOrIndex ) as FieldRef >> >> But you want to have something as >> >> Cursor_FieldValue( NamOrIndex ) as string >> >> Right, Trevor. >> >> Ivan, please add such function also. > > The other one I found missing was an equivalent to > Database_GetBaseObjectName. At least I think that was it. I'm not > in front of the code right now. Well, I think this one is overhead It is not so often used as field values. So no problems write 2 lines of code -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 18:52:59 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 10:53:04 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 6:45 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: Hi Aart, > Hello, > > I'm having serious trouble with the Macintosh version: > > "the program unexpectedly quit" after > > gDB = new ( Xtra "VDatabase", #kLocal ) Do you have crash log to show ? > (also your examples crash!) Hmm. Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? > I'm using the version now online (2.0.5) on Mac OSX (both 10.1.5 and > Tiger), both in Director on the Mac and Mac-projectors created on my > Windows-machine 10.1 is not tested btw > Any ideas?? > > Aart Jan van der Linden > multimedia developer > > Talmon Communicatie > Villawal 5 > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > The Netherlands > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 18:06:26 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 11:06:45 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: > > Do you have crash log to show ? see attachment > > > (also your examples crash!) > > Hmm. > > Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? No, I just downloaded your online folder, wich only contained the xtra. The windows version in the 2.0.3 version did have a lot of extra files and folders, but by now it seems to be able to run without all of them, so I figured the mac would be fine with just the xtra as well....? Aart Jan Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl -------------- next part -------------- Date/Time: 2005-10-11 18:01:45.421 +0200 OS Version: 10.4 (Build 8A428) Report Version: 3 Command: startosx Path: /Volumes/Projecten/10102_WNF_jaarverslag2005/uitvoering/cdrom_werkmap/versie_1.9_open/startosx Parent: WindowServer [66] Version: 10.1 (10.1r11, Copyright ©1985-2004 Macromedia, Inc.) 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0x99d99fff com.apple.iokit.dvcomponentglue 1.7.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/DVComponentGlue.framework/Versions/A/DVComponentGlue Model: PowerMac3,1, BootROM 3.1.3f1, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (2.7), 350 MHz, 512 MB Graphics: ATY,Rage128Pro, ATY,Rage128Pro, AGP, 16 MB Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM2/J23, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM3/J24, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Modem: Spring, , V.90, , APPLE VERSION 0004, 5/21/1999 Network Service: Ingebouwd Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 Parallel ATA Device: QUANTUM FIREBALL CX10.2A, 9.56 GB Parallel ATA Device: Maxtor 6Y060L0, 57.27 GB Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8584A, USB Device: Hub in Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 220 mA USB Device: Apple USB Mouse, Mitsumi, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 18:08:33 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 11:08:51 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: oops.... I just remembered seeing extra files in the macintosh download, I'm checking them now... Aart Jan Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 17:53 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 6:45 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > Hi Aart, > > > Hello, > > > > I'm having serious trouble with the Macintosh version: > > > > "the program unexpectedly quit" after > > > > gDB = new ( Xtra "VDatabase", #kLocal ) > > Do you have crash log to show ? > > > (also your examples crash!) > > Hmm. > > Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? > > > > I'm using the version now online (2.0.5) on Mac OSX (both > 10.1.5 and > > Tiger), both in Director on the Mac and Mac-projectors > created on my > > Windows-machine > > 10.1 is not tested btw > > > > Any ideas?? > > > > Aart Jan van der Linden > > multimedia developer > > > > Talmon Communicatie > > Villawal 5 > > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > > The Netherlands > > > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > _______________________________________________ > > Valentina mailing list > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 18:22:24 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 11:22:40 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, still a but puzzled... In the download I found three installers. The top-one installed the xtra and examples in the place I pointed to, and the "Vcomponents installer" somewhere else. (it doesn?t show up in the folder) The xtra-installer also installs the xtra, and the VComponents installer again installs something I cannot find after the installation finishes. Am I supposed to include some files and folders on the distributed cd-rom? Where can I find those files and folders? (I'm not really a mac-pro, so maybe I'm missing something very simple....) Thanx in advance, AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 17:53 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 6:45 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > Hi Aart, > > > Hello, > > > > I'm having serious trouble with the Macintosh version: > > > > "the program unexpectedly quit" after > > > > gDB = new ( Xtra "VDatabase", #kLocal ) > > Do you have crash log to show ? > > > (also your examples crash!) > > Hmm. > > Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? > > > > I'm using the version now online (2.0.5) on Mac OSX (both > 10.1.5 and > > Tiger), both in Director on the Mac and Mac-projectors > created on my > > Windows-machine > > 10.1 is not tested btw > > > > Any ideas?? > > > > Aart Jan van der Linden > > multimedia developer > > > > Talmon Communicatie > > Villawal 5 > > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > > The Netherlands > > > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > _______________________________________________ > > Valentina mailing list > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 19:44:53 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 11:44:59 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 7:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > still a but puzzled... > In the download I found three installers. > The top-one installed the xtra and examples in the place I pointed to, and the > "Vcomponents installer" somewhere else. (it doesn?t show up in the folder) > > The xtra-installer also installs the xtra, and the VComponents installer again > installs something I cannot find after the installation finishes. > > Am I supposed to include some files and folders on the distributed cd-rom? > Where can I find those files and folders? > > (I'm not really a mac-pro, so maybe I'm missing something very simple....) Hi Aart, You need to run only one installer V4MD2.mpkg He do all job -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:05:30 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:05:36 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 7:06 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > >> >> Do you have crash log to show ? > > see attachment > > >> >>> (also your examples crash!) >> >> Hmm. >> >> Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? > No, I just downloaded your online folder, wich only contained the xtra. > > The windows version in the 2.0.3 version did have a lot of extra files > and folders, but by now it seems to be able to run without all of them, > so I figured the mac would be fine with just the xtra as well....? It seems this is crash log from projector, right ? here you could do mistake -- that you have NOT copy VComponents items. please read V4MD_Ref.pdf, section Deployment. Please send me crash log when you just run from Director IDE -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From thomasr at atl-engineering.net Tue Oct 11 13:13:34 2005 From: thomasr at atl-engineering.net (Thomas Ruellan) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:13:52 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000b01c5ce87$214d2d60$c800a8c0@THOMASRUELLAN> Ruslan, I had this same problem with MAC version and i couln't resolve it yet.... Thanks Thomas Ruellan. --------------------------------- ATL Engineering, SA Tel : (809) 539-6443 - Fax : (809) 537-2748 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Ruslan Zasukhin Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:06 PM To: valentina@lists.macserve.net Subject: Re: Mac version On 10/11/05 7:06 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > >> >> Do you have crash log to show ? > > see attachment > > >> >>> (also your examples crash!) >> >> Hmm. >> >> Do you have /Library/CFMSupport/VComponents folder ? > No, I just downloaded your online folder, wich only contained the > xtra. > > The windows version in the 2.0.3 version did have a lot of extra files > and folders, but by now it seems to be able to run without all of > them, so I figured the mac would be fine with just the xtra as > well....? It seems this is crash log from projector, right ? here you could do mistake -- that you have NOT copy VComponents items. please read V4MD_Ref.pdf, section Deployment. Please send me crash log when you just run from Director IDE -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:16:33 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:16:39 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: <000b01c5ce87$214d2d60$c800a8c0@THOMASRUELLAN> Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:13 PM, "Thomas Ruellan" wrote: > Ruslan, > > I had this same problem with MAC version and i couln't resolve it yet.... Hi Thomas, Then why you keep silent ? So 2.0.5 release archive -- not work even examples? From Director ? Please also send me crash log -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 19:22:43 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:23:06 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, We do the authoring on Windows machines (We do not yet have a MX2004 license for Macintosh). (Director creates fine-working .hqx-files with a Mac-projector in it) So I cannot provide you with crashreports from the Director IDE. I found the folder you mentioned, included all the files in the root of the cdrom (where the projector is located), but still it crashed. I also tried to copy the files into the Xtras folder, but still no result (I have to say I was happy the windows version didn't require a dozen of files with very unpretty names in the root anymore (like in 2.0.3), I hope you can fix that for the Mac-version as well!) Thanx, Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 18:45 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 7:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > still a but puzzled... > > In the download I found three installers. > > The top-one installed the xtra and examples in the place I > pointed to, > > and the "Vcomponents installer" somewhere else. (it doesn?t > show up in > > the folder) > > > > The xtra-installer also installs the xtra, and the VComponents > > installer again installs something I cannot find after the > installation finishes. > > > > Am I supposed to include some files and folders on the > distributed cd-rom? > > Where can I find those files and folders? > > > > (I'm not really a mac-pro, so maybe I'm missing something very > > simple....) > > Hi Aart, > > You need to run only one installer V4MD2.mpkg > > He do all job > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > -------------- next part -------------- Date/Time: 2005-10-11 19:16:52.821 +0200 OS Version: 10.4 (Build 8A428) Report Version: 3 Command: startosx Path: /Volumes/Projecten/10102_WNF_jaarverslag2005/uitvoering/cdrom_werkmap/versie_1.9_open/startosx Parent: WindowServer [66] Version: 10.1 (10.1r11, Copyright ?1985-2004 Macromedia, Inc.) 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0x99d99fff com.apple.iokit.dvcomponentglue 1.7.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/DVComponentGlue.framework/Versions/A/DVComponentGlue From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:27:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:27:21 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > We do the authoring on Windows machines (We do not yet have a MX2004 license > for Macintosh). > (Director creates fine-working .hqx-files with a Mac-projector in it) > > So I cannot provide you with crashreports from the Director IDE. > > I found the folder you mentioned, included all the files in the root of the > cdrom (where the projector is located), but still it crashed. > > I also tried to copy the files into the Xtras folder, but still no result > > (I have to say I was happy the windows version didn't require a dozen of files > with very unpretty names in the root anymore (like in 2.0.3), I hope you can > fix that for the Mac-version as well!) Guys, I also have reproduce this problem with V4MD MAC 2.0.5 installer. Argh! I will try to see where is problem... May happens that we will not be able ship new build yet few days. Because we do some refactoring of our code... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 19:29:15 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:29:34 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Was there a stable 2.0.4? We have to deliver a master in a few days..... AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 19:27 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 8:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > We do the authoring on Windows machines (We do not yet have > a MX2004 > > license for Macintosh). > > (Director creates fine-working .hqx-files with a > Mac-projector in it) > > > > So I cannot provide you with crashreports from the Director IDE. > > > > I found the folder you mentioned, included all the files in > the root > > of the cdrom (where the projector is located), but still it crashed. > > > > I also tried to copy the files into the Xtras folder, but still no > > result > > > > (I have to say I was happy the windows version didn't > require a dozen > > of files with very unpretty names in the root anymore (like > in 2.0.3), > > I hope you can fix that for the Mac-version as well!) > > Guys, > > I also have reproduce this problem with V4MD MAC 2.0.5 installer. > Argh! > > I will try to see where is problem... > > May happens that we will not be able ship new build yet few days. > Because we do some refactoring of our code... > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From thomasr at atl-engineering.net Tue Oct 11 13:31:36 2005 From: thomasr at atl-engineering.net (Thomas Ruellan) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:31:43 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c5ce89$a23d60a0$c800a8c0@THOMASRUELLAN> Hi, We do the authoring on PC and MAC with Director on both platform. When the projector is run on the MAC with director and xtra installed it's ok. But when run on another MAC without director and without Xtra installes, it crash... So, i suggest you to try to install the xtra package on your mac and see what happend. If it works, then you are in the same case as me. Something is done in the OS system when the Xtra is installed that we forgot to put on our deployed projector. Bye, Thomas Ruellan. --------------------------------- ATL Engineering, SA Tel : (809) 539-6443 - Fax : (809) 537-2748 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Aart Jan van der Linden Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:23 PM To: Valentina Developers Subject: RE: Mac version Hi Ruslan, We do the authoring on Windows machines (We do not yet have a MX2004 license for Macintosh). (Director creates fine-working .hqx-files with a Mac-projector in it) So I cannot provide you with crashreports from the Director IDE. I found the folder you mentioned, included all the files in the root of the cdrom (where the projector is located), but still it crashed. I also tried to copy the files into the Xtras folder, but still no result (I have to say I was happy the windows version didn't require a dozen of files with very unpretty names in the root anymore (like in 2.0.3), I hope you can fix that for the Mac-version as well!) Thanx, Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 18:45 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 7:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > still a but puzzled... > > In the download I found three installers. > > The top-one installed the xtra and examples in the place I > pointed to, > > and the "Vcomponents installer" somewhere else. (it doesn?t > show up in > > the folder) > > > > The xtra-installer also installs the xtra, and the VComponents > > installer again installs something I cannot find after the > installation finishes. > > > > Am I supposed to include some files and folders on the > distributed cd-rom? > > Where can I find those files and folders? > > > > (I'm not really a mac-pro, so maybe I'm missing something very > > simple....) > > Hi Aart, > > You need to run only one installer V4MD2.mpkg > > He do all job > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:39:31 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:39:36 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: <001401c5ce89$a23d60a0$c800a8c0@THOMASRUELLAN> Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:31 PM, "Thomas Ruellan" wrote: Hi Thomas, > We do the authoring on PC and MAC with Director on both platform. When the > projector is run on the MAC with director and xtra installed it's ok. But > when run on another MAC without director and without Xtra installes, it > crash... But have you copy into Projector folder items from VComponents folder? Note, for MAC deployment, you need copy items from V4MD2_MAC installer!!! > So, i suggest you to try to install the xtra package on your mac and see > what happend. If it works, then you are in the same case as me. Something is > done in the OS system when the Xtra is installed that we forgot to put on > our deployed projector. Look. For Windows you make one folder, for Mac you make another folder right? Then you probably put both folders to the same CD, right ? Each folder must have items of corresponded VComponents folder, which is installed by V4MD installer. Please check this point. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:41:59 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:42:08 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:29 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> >>> We do the authoring on Windows machines (We do not yet have a MX2004 license >>> for Macintosh). (Director creates fine-working .hqx-files with a >>> Mac-projector in it) >>> >>> So I cannot provide you with crashreports from the Director IDE. >>> >>> I found the folder you mentioned, included all the files in the root of the >>> cdrom (where the projector is located), but still it crashed. Aha, projector.exe also is here ... Okay. >>> I also tried to copy the files into the Xtras folder, but still no result No, VComponents items must be in the folder where is PROJECTOR. Then OS will find dlls and load them. >>> (I have to say I was happy the windows version didn't require a dozen of >>> files with very unpretty names in the root anymore (like in 2.0.3), I hope >>> you can fix that for the Mac-version as well!) STOP !!! Windows version also require you put items of VComponents_win_cw on CD. I think you have not test on clean computer, if you say this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 20:42:36 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:42:41 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:29 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > Was there a stable 2.0.4? > > We have to deliver a master in a few days..... Well, tomorrow I will reset 2.0.5 environment on MAC, Build all again, and will check. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 19:47:36 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:48:25 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Ruslan, > Look. > > For Windows you make one folder, for Mac you make another > folder right? We do it all in one folder, since the majority of the files is crossplatform. We used to create a Xtras folder with a PC folder and a Mac folder in it, but since recently it seems that Mac Xtras need to be directly in the Xtras-folder. At the moment of burning we create a CD with CDEveryWhere, so that a Windows user doesn't see the Mac-projector and Vice versa. > STOP !!! > > Windows version also require you put items of > VComponents_win_cw on CD. > > I think you have not test on clean computer, if you say this. You are probably right with that, I upgraded to 2.0.5. this afternoon. Can the mac- and windows versions of those files be in one folder together?? (and could you change this in future releases? The root-folder is quite crowded now...) AJ From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 11 19:48:58 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 11 12:49:38 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: > Well, tomorrow I will reset 2.0.5 environment on MAC, Build > all again, and will check. Looking forward to that! See you tomorrow. (And thanx a lot!) AJ From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 21:14:10 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 13:14:20 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/11/05 8:47 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: >> STOP !!! >> >> Windows version also require you put items of >> VComponents_win_cw on CD. >> >> I think you have not test on clean computer, if you say this. > > You are probably right with that, I upgraded to 2.0.5. this afternoon. > Can the mac- and windows versions of those files be in one folder > together?? I think yes, they use different names and extensions > (and could you change this in future releases? The root-folder is quite > crowded now...) May be we will be able change this, only if load dlls manually. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 11 22:17:06 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 11 14:17:13 2005 Subject: Thanks for purchasing Valentina for REALbasic In-Reply-To: <0dda01c5ce97$a7201b90$6601a8c0@pantherdev> Message-ID: On 10/11/05 10:11 PM, "Panther Support" wrote: > Ruslan: > > You were right, sorry. But now I am getting an error I never got before in > my code. I have a database I call gDatabase and try to do a > gDatabase.SQLSelect("..") and it tells me that the method or property does > not exist. Did i install it wrong? If you use classes in your project, then problem can be that REALbasic have lost correct parent classes. So choose your db class, and in the property window check its parent. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp Wed Oct 12 00:08:47 2005 From: rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp (ron barber) Date: Tue Oct 11 19:23:17 2005 Subject: Cursor_GetField equivalent in V4REV? In-Reply-To: <95635504.20051011170944@public.kherson.ua> References: <7dede27b195758f6fd2183c057140f16@yhb.att.ne.jp> <95635504.20051011170944@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <2e0b0b82a80ba03aa952ab738ccda972@yhb.att.ne.jp> Thanks! On Oct 11, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > Hello Ron, > > Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 11:08:29 AM, you wrote: > > rb> Hi Ruslan, Ivan > rb> Please don't forget: >>> Sorry, we have forgotten some Rev. specific wrappers like >>> list = DataBase_SQLSelectRecords( >>> dbRefOrName, SQLstring, [FromRec], [MaxRecords], [fldDelim], >>> [recDelim] ) >>> > Don't worry. It's been done already. > > -- > Best regards, > Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From aartjan at talmon.nl Wed Oct 12 12:33:32 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Wed Oct 12 05:33:44 2005 Subject: readonly cursor??? Message-ID: Hi, I'm a bit puzzled about this: since 2.0.5 this code gDB.sqlSelect(SQLQ,#kClientSide, #kReadWrite, #kRandom) gives me readonly cursors! (SQLQ = "select * from teksten where code = '04.00.09'") The database is not readonly, gDB.isReadOnly returns . In your demofiles I see you use #kServerSide; is there something changed? If I just change #kClientSide in #kServerSide I get the error 'Record "UNKNOWN" is locked in table "teksten"', and I'm not alowed to check for isReadOnly on the cursor.... Any thoughts? AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 13:40:29 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Wed Oct 12 05:40:33 2005 Subject: readonly cursor??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1905504359.20051012134029@public.kherson.ua> Hello Aart, Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 1:33:32 PM, you wrote: AJvdL> Hi, AJvdL> I'm a bit puzzled about this: AJvdL> since 2.0.5 this code AJvdL> gDB.sqlSelect(SQLQ,#kClientSide, #kReadWrite, #kRandom) AJvdL> gives me readonly cursors! ClientSide cursors are always read-only. AJvdL> If I just change #kClientSide in #kServerSide I get the error 'Record AJvdL> "UNKNOWN" is locked in table "teksten"', and I'm not alowed to check for AJvdL> isReadOnly on the cursor.... So another cursor locks some of the records with any lock's type. ( Seems to be read-only type. ) Check the RecordLocks example please. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From aartjan at talmon.nl Wed Oct 12 16:34:44 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Wed Oct 12 09:34:51 2005 Subject: Mac version Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2005 19:43 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Mac version > > On 10/11/05 8:29 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > Was there a stable 2.0.4? > > > > We have to deliver a master in a few days..... > > Well, tomorrow I will reset 2.0.5 environment on MAC, Build > all again, and will check. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 17:38:49 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 09:38:56 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/12/05 5:34 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... I have not start on this yet. Soon. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 18:42:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 10:43:11 2005 Subject: Mac version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/12/05 5:38 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > On 10/12/05 5:34 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... > > I have not start on this yet. Soon. I think I know where is problem. it looks into V4MD MAC installer have come Xtra compiled as SW. We can see this from its size 1.1 MB Normal V4Md.Xtra is about 400Kb. So I hope that I need only build correct Xtra now, And it should work. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Wed Oct 12 19:13:37 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Wed Oct 12 12:13:53 2005 Subject: V4MD suggest for a undo button Message-ID: <000c01c5cf50$4d1544e0$b1553897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Ruslan and list, I need to add a "undo" button for return immediatly at previous saved record, somebody can suggest me a good way in Valentina? eg Rec1 1. In myStringField I type: "John" 2. I click on updateRecord button and write rec1 into disk 3. In the same record and same field I type another name "Bill" 4. I click on updateRecord button and write rec1 into disk again 5. I click on undo button and I return to see "John" in myStringField... how? Thanks Paolo From milan at mook.co.uk Wed Oct 12 18:25:55 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Wed Oct 12 12:26:07 2005 Subject: Director Xtra - Projector Error Message Message-ID: <434D4723.2090505@mook.co.uk> Hi, This is probably something simple, but upon launching my Director projector on Windows XP I'm getting the error: "could not initialize Valentina. See V4MD_Log.txt file for errors" The file V4MD_Log.txt doesn't appear to be created. I have the dll files from the install directory in the root of the CD-ROM. Should they be somewhere else? Cheers, mil. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 21:17:30 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 13:17:39 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/12/05 5:34 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... Hi All, New archive of V4MD MAC 2.0.5 uploaded Please check it and let me know. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 21:19:57 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 13:20:06 2005 Subject: V4MD suggest for a undo button In-Reply-To: <000c01c5cf50$4d1544e0$b1553897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/12/05 8:13 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > Hi Ruslan and list, > I need to add a "undo" button for return immediatly at previous saved record, > somebody can suggest me a good way in Valentina? > > eg > Rec1 > 1. In myStringField I type: "John" > 2. I click on updateRecord button and write rec1 into disk > 3. In the same record and same field I type another name "Bill" > 4. I click on updateRecord button and write rec1 into disk again > 5. I click on undo button and I return to see "John" in myStringField... how? This is not database issue. UNDO you can do via storing in RAM (array, list, whatever ... ) Prev values which you can undo. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 12 21:23:20 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 13:23:28 2005 Subject: Director Xtra - Projector Error Message In-Reply-To: <434D4723.2090505@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/12/05 8:25 PM, "Milan" wrote: Hi Milan, > Hi, > > This is probably something simple, but upon launching my Director > projector on Windows XP I'm getting the error: > > "could not initialize Valentina. See V4MD_Log.txt file for errors" > > The file V4MD_Log.txt doesn't appear to be created. > > I have the dll files from the install directory in the root of the > CD-ROM. Should they be somewhere else? Have you put into CD-ROM also 2 MS dlls ? msvcp71.dll msvcr71.dll -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 12 17:20:34 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:20:38 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem Message-ID: I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it runs just fine on my computer. So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents folder on the test computer? -------------- Charles Yeomans From daisychain at iinet.net.au Thu Oct 13 07:41:37 2005 From: daisychain at iinet.net.au (Damon Pillinger) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:41:41 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c5cf75$b9b35c70$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Hi Charles, You might find that the other machine has 2.0.5fcX on it where as 2.0.5rel is a different set of DLL's copy the DLL's from your machine to the other machine and it might work. Well it did for me anyway, 80 re-installs later anyway. Thanks Best Regards Damon L. Pillinger Jensen 2005 by Daisychain www.daisychain.no-ip.biz Phone : 03 9532 1220 Fax : 03 9532 1280 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Charles Yeomans Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 7:21 AM To: Valentina Developers Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it runs just fine on my computer. So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents folder on the test computer? -------------- Charles Yeomans _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 00:46:39 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:46:50 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/13/05 12:20 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. > The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the > application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the > installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure > one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the > application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it > runs just fine on my computer. > > So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents > folder on the test computer? Charles, But why you not put items of VComponents into app folder? This is recommended way! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 12 17:52:47 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:52:53 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2fc11c1d1ad3e0fc93056071d4571b4c@desuetude.com> On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/13/05 12:20 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. >> The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the >> application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the >> installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure >> one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the >> application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it >> runs just fine on my computer. >> >> So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents >> folder on the test computer? > > Charles, > > But why you not put items of VComponents into app folder? > This is recommended way! I tried this and did not get it to work. Can the VComponents items be placed inside the application bundle somewhere? -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 00:55:50 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:55:57 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: <2fc11c1d1ad3e0fc93056071d4571b4c@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/13/05 12:52 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> But why you not put items of VComponents into app folder? >> This is recommended way! > > I tried this and did not get it to work. Can the VComponents items be > placed inside the application bundle somewhere? You make app as Macho bundle? This still on TODO list for V4RB Carbon. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 12 17:58:30 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 12 16:58:34 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: <000501c5cf75$b9b35c70$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> References: <000501c5cf75$b9b35c70$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Message-ID: <40ab897931811b1d5628e1eb5c3e1923@desuetude.com> The test machine never had Valentina on it. Charles Yeomans On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Damon Pillinger wrote: > Hi Charles, > You might find that the other machine has 2.0.5fcX on it where as > 2.0.5rel is a different set of DLL's copy the DLL's from your machine > to > the other machine and it might work. > > Well it did for me anyway, 80 re-installs later anyway. > > Thanks > Best Regards > > Damon L. Pillinger > Jensen 2005 by Daisychain > www.daisychain.no-ip.biz > Phone : 03 9532 1220 > Fax : 03 9532 1280 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Charles > Yeomans > Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 7:21 AM > To: Valentina Developers > Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem > > I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. > The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the > application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the > installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure > one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the > application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it > runs just fine on my computer. > > So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents > folder on the test computer? > > > > -------------- > Charles Yeomans > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > -------------- Charles Yeomans From daisychain at iinet.net.au Thu Oct 13 08:05:12 2005 From: daisychain at iinet.net.au (Damon Pillinger) Date: Wed Oct 12 17:05:22 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: <40ab897931811b1d5628e1eb5c3e1923@desuetude.com> Message-ID: <000601c5cf79$055e0f50$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> OK are you sure everything is there including the "Components_Readme.txt" file Best Regards Damon L. Pillinger Jensen 2005 by Daisychain www.daisychain.no-ip.biz Phone : 03 9532 1220 Fax : 03 9532 1280 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Charles Yeomans Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 7:59 AM To: Valentina Developers Subject: Re: [V4Rb] application install problem The test machine never had Valentina on it. Charles Yeomans On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Damon Pillinger wrote: > Hi Charles, > You might find that the other machine has 2.0.5fcX on it where as > 2.0.5rel is a different set of DLL's copy the DLL's from your machine > to > the other machine and it might work. > > Well it did for me anyway, 80 re-installs later anyway. > > Thanks > Best Regards > > Damon L. Pillinger > Jensen 2005 by Daisychain > www.daisychain.no-ip.biz > Phone : 03 9532 1220 > Fax : 03 9532 1280 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Charles > Yeomans > Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 7:21 AM > To: Valentina Developers > Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem > > I've written an installer to install a Valentina-equipped application. > The installer installs VComponents in /Library/CFMSupport, and the > application in the directory of the user's choice. After running the > installer on another machine, the app fails with the assertion failure > one expects to see if VComponents isn't there. But I can drag the > application itself to a network drive, walk back to my office, and it > runs just fine on my computer. > > So, any suggestions as to why the app cannot find the VComponents > folder on the test computer? > > > > -------------- > Charles Yeomans > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > -------------- Charles Yeomans _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 12 18:07:19 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 12 17:07:23 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] application install problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5acd0d220332ea8f721f37e7c54f6dc1@desuetude.com> On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/13/05 12:52 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> But why you not put items of VComponents into app folder? >>> This is recommended way! >> >> I tried this and did not get it to work. Can the VComponents items be >> placed inside the application bundle somewhere? > > You make app as Macho bundle? > > This still on TODO list for V4RB Carbon. Well get to work :) It looks like my problem is that the installer is screwing up the VComponents install somehow; I will play with PackageMaker. After a manual install, everything works. -------------- Charles Yeomans From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Wed Oct 12 22:00:02 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu Oct 13 00:00:18 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted Message-ID: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> Hi all, Ive been asked by a long time user about providing a "pay per fix" program such as REAL Software has (http://www.realsoftware.com/support/developerprogram/#quickfix). Well and good, we can do this, but Id like to get your feedback on how valuable this would be for you. Anyone who has been a Valentina developer for more than just a few weeks knows that the development team hops on problems very quickly. But even then, not all issues get addressed in the order they'd like. If we published this, it would be on a credit system based on the "one day or less" model, ie if it takes a less than a day, it would count as a day. If it flows over into day two, then it would be two credits. Once we quote a fix time, that's the maximum number of credits. We'd also narrow the offering to VDN members. VDN isnt just about using Valentina Embedded Server, its also an upgrade/maintenance, access to the private forum, the dev versions of Office Server and the like. What do you all think? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From aartjan at talmon.nl Thu Oct 13 10:29:33 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:29:36 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I'm afraid I still get crashes. This is what I did: - downloaded the file from the website (same name as the previous one, right?) - removed the old items in Bibliotheek/CFMSupport/VComponents (Bibliotheek is dutch for Library) - double-clicked the installer - installation went fine - copied all the files and folders from the folder Bibliotheek/CFMSupport/VComponents to the root of my cdrom - copied the new xtra into the xtras folder of my cdrom - ran the projector (created on a Windows system) - "The program Projector is unexpectedly quit" (but then in Dutch) (crashreport attached) I will try other routes, but maybe you also have some ideas?? Thanx, Aart Jan Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2005 20:18 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected > Urgentie: Hoog > > On 10/12/05 5:34 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... > > Hi All, > > New archive of V4MD MAC 2.0.5 uploaded > > Please check it and let me know. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > -------------- next part -------------- Date/Time: 2005-10-13 10:18:22.030 +0200 OS Version: 10.4 (Build 8A428) Report Version: 3 Command: start7.osx Path: /Volumes/Projecten/10102_WNF_jaarverslag2005/uitvoering/cdrom_werkmap/versie_1.9_open/start7.osx Parent: WindowServer [66] Version: 10.1 (10.1r11, Copyright ©1985-2004 Macromedia, Inc.) 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0x99d99fff com.apple.iokit.dvcomponentglue 1.7.5 /System/Library/Frameworks/DVComponentGlue.framework/Versions/A/DVComponentGlue Model: PowerMac3,1, BootROM 3.1.3f1, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (2.7), 350 MHz, 512 MB Graphics: ATY,Rage128Pro, ATY,Rage128Pro, AGP, 16 MB Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM2/J23, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Memory Module: DIMM3/J24, 128 MB, SDRAM, PC100-322S Modem: Spring, , V.90, , APPLE VERSION 0004, 5/21/1999 Network Service: Ingebouwd Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 Parallel ATA Device: QUANTUM FIREBALL CX10.2A, 9.56 GB Parallel ATA Device: Maxtor 6Y060L0, 57.27 GB Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8584A, USB Device: Hub in Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple USB Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 220 mA USB Device: Apple USB Mouse, Mitsumi, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 13 10:34:07 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:34:09 2005 Subject: V4MD suggest for a undo button References: Message-ID: <000a01c5cfd0$e0f4bd50$22623897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Ruslan, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruslan Zasukhin" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: V4MD suggest for a undo button > On 10/12/05 8:13 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan and list, > > I need to add a "undo" button for return immediatly at previous saved record, > > somebody can suggest me a good way in Valentina? > This is not database issue. I agree, but it's useful in db project > UNDO you can do via storing in RAM (array, list, whatever ... ) > Prev values which you can undo. ok, I've made a lingo storing script with two list and it works. Thanks Paolo From aartjan at talmon.nl Thu Oct 13 10:35:00 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:35:01 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected - IGNORE PREVIOUS POST!!!! Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, somehow the overwriting of the xtra didn't go well, it's working fine now!!!!!! I will continue testing. Thanx so far! AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2005 20:18 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected > Urgentie: Hoog > > On 10/12/05 5:34 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi Ruslan, > > > > I'm curious how you're doing on the 2.0.5 MAC version... > > Hi All, > > New archive of V4MD MAC 2.0.5 uploaded > > Please check it and let me know. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 11:42:38 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:42:48 2005 Subject: [V4MD] Mac version 2.0 corrected - IGNORE PREVIOUS POST!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/13/05 11:35 AM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > somehow the overwriting of the xtra didn't go well, it's working fine > now!!!!!! > > I will continue testing. Great! Good Aart. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 11:46:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:47:00 2005 Subject: V4MD suggest for a undo button In-Reply-To: <000a01c5cfd0$e0f4bd50$22623897@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/13/05 11:34 AM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: >> UNDO you can do via storing in RAM (array, list, whatever ... ) >> Prev values which you can undo. > ok, I've made a lingo storing script with two list and it works. Good, In if you will wish multiple UNDO then you need store more and more changes. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From daisychain at iinet.net.au Thu Oct 13 18:38:27 2005 From: daisychain at iinet.net.au (Damon Pillinger) Date: Thu Oct 13 03:52:33 2005 Subject: easy SQL question Message-ID: <000201c5cfd1$7bb214f0$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Hi Guys, Not good enough at SQL to figure this out myself. Table with two fields name & Count name count John 2 Ben 3 John 5 John 23 Ben 3 Ben 7 John 3 John 8 What I want is this returned John 41 Ben 13 I have read up on unique and distinct but cannot figure it out, the SUM bit is easy but I think I have to have one call for each person select SUM(count) from data where name="John" select SUM(count) from data where name="Ben" and there could be hundreds of names , so this would be BAD. RB5.5.5 Valentina 2.0.5 rel , I just want to use straight SQL if possible? Talk in the morning, have a great day/night. Thanks Best Regards Damon L. Pillinger Jensen 2005 by Daisychain www.daisychain.no-ip.biz Phone : 03 9532 1220 Fax : 03 9532 1280 From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 12:05:20 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Thu Oct 13 04:05:20 2005 Subject: easy SQL question In-Reply-To: <000201c5cfd1$7bb214f0$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> References: <000201c5cfd1$7bb214f0$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Message-ID: <10410358017.20051013120520@public.kherson.ua> Hello Damon, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:38:27 AM, you wrote: DP> Hi Guys, DP> Not good enough at SQL to figure this out myself. DP> Table with two fields name & Count DP> name count DP> John 2 DP> Ben 3 DP> John 5 DP> John 23 DP> Ben 3 DP> Ben 7 DP> John 3 DP> John 8 DP> What I want is this returned DP> John 41 DP> Ben 13 DP> I have read up on unique and distinct but cannot figure it out, the SUM DP> bit is easy but I think I have to have one call for each person DP> select SUM(count) from data where name="John" DP> select SUM(count) from data where name="Ben" DP> and there could be hundreds of names , so this would be BAD. select name, SUM(count) from data GROUP BY name BTW, It would be better to have another field name rather then "count". SQL-parser might be confused with it because it is keyword. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From milan at mook.co.uk Thu Oct 13 10:48:38 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Thu Oct 13 04:48:46 2005 Subject: Director Xtra - Projector Error Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <434E2D76.3000803@mook.co.uk> I've tried adding those two dll files and it hasn't helped. Can I confirm that I need to put all the dll files in the directory "VComponents_Win_VC" in the root of the CD-ROM? Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/12/05 8:25 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > Hi Milan, > > >> Hi, >> >> This is probably something simple, but upon launching my Director >> projector on Windows XP I'm getting the error: >> >> "could not initialize Valentina. See V4MD_Log.txt file for errors" >> >> The file V4MD_Log.txt doesn't appear to be created. >> >> I have the dll files from the install directory in the root of the >> CD-ROM. Should they be somewhere else? >> > > Have you put into CD-ROM also 2 MS dlls ? > > msvcp71.dll > msvcr71.dll > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * 'God of War' rich media campaign goes live for PlayStation 2. * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. * Mook is 'one to watch' in New Media Age Top 100 Interactive Agencies. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 12:49:35 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 04:49:49 2005 Subject: Valentina for Java and JDBC // Sorry to see you away from Valentina list In-Reply-To: <434E22E8.9090300@gelo.com> Message-ID: On 10/13/05 12:03 PM, "Timor Knudsen" wrote: > Hi Ruslan! > I recently joined the Valentina list, since I had two problems regarding > Valentina VJDK 1: I was unable to "ImportASCII" (the reason was 1.) > read-only cursor and 2.) '\c' control sequence instead of '\r'), and I > had problems implementing a "GROUP BY" statement (the problem was a > simple spelling error). I solved both problems by taking an indepth look > into the Valentina-list-archive... the project is not completed yet, but > I don't expect any more difficulties with Valentina DB. I cancelled my > list-membership because the list is too active and I don't want to > receive so many emails ;-) Another reason is that I am only interested > in Valentina VJDK 1 (I have to use this version), but most of the topics > in the list are dealing with Valentina DB 2. > > So it's a mixture between B) and D) ;-) > > Thank's for your support anyway! Okay I see Timor. By the way! We now think, if it will be good to develop only JDBC driver of type 4 (client to Valentina Server) For Valentina 2 or it is also have sense develop the full Valentina for Java ADK, which can work with a local and remote dbs like this can V4RB, V4MD, ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 12:54:36 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 04:54:46 2005 Subject: Director Xtra - Projector Error Message In-Reply-To: <434E2D76.3000803@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/13/05 12:48 PM, "Milan" wrote: > I've tried adding those two dll files and it hasn't helped. Can I > confirm that I need to put all the dll files in the directory > "VComponents_Win_VC" in the root of the CD-ROM? Yes Milan, This is described in the V4MD_Reference.pdf, Section Deployment. You need put NOT only dlls from VComponents but ALL items of this folder, I.e. Also you need copy e.g. Folder "vresources" -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 13:31:01 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 05:31:16 2005 Subject: [NEWS] STATUS of development. Message-ID: Hi Guys, I want give this information letter, so you can know what happens now with our development. * Valentina for PHP -- practically DONE. also we have made PEAR and ADODB classes for VPHP * Valentina for C++ last week I have spend on big refactoring to be able sheep C++ SDK. We was need break dependency of public sources from protected sources. Now I can compile and link all dlls. So we starting testing and fixing broken things. As Only our tests will be fine we will be able ship 2.1 b1 for all product line. * Valentina .NET one developer have start work on this product. * Valentina COM one developer have start work on this product. * Valentina for Cocoa (Obj-C) one developer have start work on this product. * Valentina Studio - Import/Export dialogs done - Jochen have improve a lots Data Browser. b16 expected in nearest days -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Thu Oct 13 08:03:00 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Thu Oct 13 07:03:05 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> References: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: >If we published this, it would be on a credit system based on the "one day >or less" model, ie if it takes a less than a day, it would count as a day. >If it flows over into day two, then it would be two credits. Once we quote a >fix time, that's the maximum number of credits. We'd also narrow the >offering to VDN members. VDN isnt just about using Valentina Embedded >Server, its also an upgrade/maintenance, access to the private forum, the >dev versions of Office Server and the like. > >What do you all think? > I think it's fine except for the VDN membership. I have no need of that, although I might well want to "elevate" a bug to the top of the fix heap. Why make an arbitrary restriction to VDN members? Jon From alindsay at mac.com Thu Oct 13 10:55:42 2005 From: alindsay at mac.com (Alex Lindsay) Date: Thu Oct 13 10:55:50 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: References: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: I understand the desire to make the VDN membership valuable. In that case, why don't you have one price per credit for Non-VDN members, and a lesser price for VND members. That way, the VDN membership has another cost benefit, but Non-VDN members can still pay to have something moved up the priority list. On Oct 13, 2005, at 7:03 AM, jda wrote: >> If we published this, it would be on a credit system based on the >> "one day >> or less" model, ie if it takes a less than a day, it would count as a >> day. >> If it flows over into day two, then it would be two credits. Once we >> quote a >> fix time, that's the maximum number of credits. We'd also narrow the >> offering to VDN members. VDN isnt just about using Valentina Embedded >> Server, its also an upgrade/maintenance, access to the private forum, >> the >> dev versions of Office Server and the like. >> >> What do you all think? >> > > I think it's fine except for the VDN membership. I have no need of > that, although I might well want to "elevate" a bug to the top of the > fix heap. Why make an arbitrary restriction to VDN members? > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > Thank you, Alex Lindsay From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 13 12:06:25 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 13 11:06:31 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> References: <20051013050005.A0B8817D034@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: On Oct 13, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: > Hi all, > > Ive been asked by a long time user about providing a "pay per fix" > program > such as REAL Software has > (http://www.realsoftware.com/support/developerprogram/#quickfix). Well > and > good, we can do this, but Id like to get your feedback on how valuable > this > would be for you. Anyone who has been a Valentina developer for more > than > just a few weeks knows that the development team hops on problems very > quickly. But even then, not all issues get addressed in the order > they'd > like. > > If we published this, it would be on a credit system based on the "one > day > or less" model, ie if it takes a less than a day, it would count as a > day. > If it flows over into day two, then it would be two credits. Once we > quote a > fix time, that's the maximum number of credits. We'd also narrow the > offering to VDN members. VDN isnt just about using Valentina Embedded > Server, its also an upgrade/maintenance, access to the private forum, > the > dev versions of Office Server and the like. > > What do you all think? I like the current situation, which is that as soon as I report a bug and it can be reproduced, it gets fixed, except of course for VStudio. I suppose I worry that the incentives of a "quick fix" program might change that. But I can certainly see that having the option to get problems fixed more or less instantly would be reassuring. -------------- Charles Yeomans From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Thu Oct 13 09:27:03 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu Oct 13 11:27:12 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051013162708.7822815071@skewer.dreamhost.com> > >What do you all think? > > > > I think it's fine except for the VDN membership. I have no > need of that, although I might well want to "elevate" a bug > to the top of the fix heap. Why make an arbitrary restriction > to VDN members? Its not entirely arbitrary in that it represents a higher level of service and support. These kinds of fixes and features programs are becoming a fact for smallish companies that sell extremely technical products. If Paradigma was selling more consumer oriented products, it would be different. There are some strategic pitfalls I see in offering this service at the community level on the website. We'd use a credit system, "1 day or less" = 1 credit. Anything that takes up to three engineering days, would be seriously considered. We can also do features that way, so long as it doesn't interfere with our infrastructure goals. That being said, Im about to send out an offer to the list regarding VDN Platform (REALbasic or Director). We are close to finishing a direct email campaign to upgrade 1.x SDK and 2.x ADK users to VDN Platform, and its clear that a lot of Valentina 1.x users have changed their email addresses in the time we've been shipping V4RB and V4MD. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From jda at his.com Thu Oct 13 12:30:14 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Thu Oct 13 11:30:21 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: <20051013162708.7822815071@skewer.dreamhost.com> References: <20051013162708.7822815071@skewer.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: >Its not entirely arbitrary in that it represents a higher level of service >and support. > >These kinds of fixes and features programs are becoming a fact for smallish >companies that sell extremely technical products. If Paradigma was selling >more consumer oriented products, it would be different. There are some >strategic pitfalls I see in offering this service at the community level on >the website. I think it's pretty safe to say that the any one of us that is will to pay to have bug fix priorities altered is pretty dedicated and sophisticated already, i.e. not a casual user. Jon From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Thu Oct 13 09:48:47 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu Oct 13 11:48:55 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your FeedbackWanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051013164852.19A5F1504F@skewer.dreamhost.com> > > What do you all think? > > I like the current situation, which is that as soon as I > report a bug and it can be reproduced, it gets fixed, except > of course for VStudio. > I suppose I worry that the incentives of a "quick fix" > program might change that. But I can certainly see that > having the option to get problems fixed more or less > instantly would be reassuring. Right, and this is also something that been a concern. From the perspective of motivation, you'd wonder if we wouldn't be motivated not to fix issues because otherwise, we'd get a reward for holding back and having it paid for. I think many of you are familiar with seeing info about my other company, Proactive International (Im a major participant in Paradigma, but there's a guy named Ruslan also there as well :-)). Proactive does offers very complex, business development services, that requires very intensive cooperation with our clients, with many checks and balances. Something I learned much to my regret in my last "big corporation" job is that it only takes a few dumb-ass comments from an uninvited VP at a business meeting to turn a $ (*) million relationship into something really smelly. Our clients are often shocked at the 14+ page contract we present to them. Invariably the portions that raise the most questions, I have to respond about what companies are incentivized to do, without a lot of "what ifs" incorporated into the agreement. Im very aware of and acknowledge the potential incentivization for having such a program. I don't have a good answer for that which is as solid as the thumb-screws I put into contracts. On the other hand, Paradigma is highly motivated to have happy customers. It is really helpful to see positive comments elsewhere, where a developer talks about how Ruslan did a 48 hour sleepless fix to help someone deliver a project on time. Also, I do not want to turn Paradigma into a type of consulting company, and relying on revenues from these kinds of fixes would efffectively turn us into one. Consulting is the business of our customers, and why VDN was developed the way it was. So yeah, Ive been thinking about that, too :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From ayu8 at cdc.gov Thu Oct 13 13:14:42 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Thu Oct 13 12:14:58 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of > Lynn Fredricks > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:00 AM > To: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your > Feedback Wanted > > Hi all, > > Ive been asked by a long time user about providing a "pay per > fix" program such as REAL Software has > (http://www.realsoftware.com/support/developerprogram/#quickfi > x). Well and good, we can do this, but Id like to get your > feedback on how valuable this would be for you. Anyone who > has been a Valentina developer for more than just a few weeks > knows that the development team hops on problems very > quickly. But even then, not all issues get addressed in the > order they'd like. > > If we published this, it would be on a credit system based on > the "one day or less" model, ie if it takes a less than a > day, it would count as a day. > If it flows over into day two, then it would be two credits. > Once we quote a fix time, that's the maximum number of > credits. We'd also narrow the offering to VDN members. VDN > isnt just about using Valentina Embedded Server, its also an > upgrade/maintenance, access to the private forum, the dev > versions of Office Server and the like. > > What do you all think? > > Best regards, > > Lynn Fredricks > President > Paradigma Software, Inc Lynn and all... One thing that has not really been touched on in this discussion is the affect such a system can have on the product. What do I mean by this? Well, if you are only talking about the end-user having the ability to pay for true bug fixes to be elevated, that is one thing. But if you open the door to situations where Valentina is not filling an individual's need (which so many developers incorrectly see as a bug) and then allow the individual to pay to have what amounts to a "feature" implemented then you have really big problems. The last company I worked for used to allow customers to file feature requests like most companies do. However, if it was a feature that we were not planning on implementing anytime soon or one we did not plan to implement at all, the customer had the option to pay for that feature to be added to the application in a timely fashion. Since so many of these were features that only specific customers wanted for themselves (and no other customer would ever see the use for), the application became completely schizophrenic from a developers point of view. I can see the value in giving a customer the option to elevate a fix to a bug (entered in Mantis and verified by Paradigma as a bug), but I strongly recommend you avoid the path of allowing individuals to "purchase features". My long-winded 2 cents :-) -John From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Thu Oct 13 10:29:07 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu Oct 13 12:29:16 2005 Subject: Upgrade Now to VDN Platform and Save Up to $200 Message-ID: <20051013172912.D50F31502F@skewer.dreamhost.com> Hello all, This special offer went out last week, but its very clear many developers have changed their email addresses, especially developers who bought V4RB 1.x years ago, so we've extended it to the 20th. -------------------------------------------- Dear Developer: I would like to invite you to take advantage of a special upgrade offer to Valentina Developer Network Platform Edition, allowing you to start deploying powerful, true client-server database solutions to your customers! If you already own Valentina 1 SDK (Director or REALbasic), you can upgrade to VDN Platform Edition for only $399, a savings of $100. If you have already made your move to Valentina 2 ADK, upgrade for $299, a savings of $200! All you need to do is place your order by October 20 and enter the following discount voucher in our online store for part number VDN-PLT-2-UA1: 050928NWN VDN Platform Edition brings the following advantages: Valentina 2 ADK Professional (Director or REALbasic). You will get Valentina 2 ADK Pro for your environment, which includes runtimes for Windows and MacOS X (all operating systems we support for your IDE). It also includes a single platform license of Valentina Studio Admin Edition. This is what you need to deploy desktop applications powered by Valentina. Deploy Valentina 2 Embedded Server, Royalty Free. Valentina 2 is a powerful, client-server solution! You can deploy Embedded Server as a part of your solution royalty free, with the default number of five simultanous connections. This is the same base engine as our business class Valentina Office Server. Extend Your Deployments with VDN Connections. You can buy and resell additional connections for Embedded Server. This option is only available to VDN members. Valentina 2 Office Server, Developer Edition. Get a free not-for-resale copy of Valentina 2 Office Server for each operating system, for your own internal testing and use (full price would be $300 each!). Reseller Pricing on Valentina 2 Office Server. Need to provide Office Server to your clients? You can purchase additional licenses at a 20% discount off of regular USSRP. Two Years of Upgrades. That's right, everything under VDN Platform Edition comes with two years worth of updates and upgrades. 10 VDN Connections. From the start, you get 10 VDN Connections you can resell to your customers. Priced well, you can earn back the entire price of your upgrade in no time! If you are still using Valentina for Director or REALbasic 1.x, you'll also benefit from the huge number of improvements in version 2: XML, SQL 92, Powerful M:M relations, Improved graphics handling and dozens of more improvements. For Director users, also, a digitally signed Xtra client coupled with powerful Server technology, you can create incredible, data-driven solutions for internet or intranet. Learn more about VDN Platform Edition on our website at: http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/developer/vertical/PLATFORM Don't forget that this special offer expires October 20, 2005. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 13 20:30:04 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 12:30:12 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your Feedback Wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/13/05 8:14 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: > One thing that has not really been touched on in this discussion is the > affect such a system can have on the product. What do I mean by this? > Well, if you are only talking about the end-user having the ability to > pay for true bug fixes to be elevated, that is one thing. But if you > open the door to situations where Valentina is not filling an > individual's need (which so many developers incorrectly see as a bug) > and then allow the individual to pay to have what amounts to a "feature" > implemented then you have really big problems. The last company I > worked for used to allow customers to file feature requests like most > companies do. However, if it was a feature that we were not planning on > implementing anytime soon or one we did not plan to implement at all, > the customer had the option to pay for that feature to be added to the > application in a timely fashion. Since so many of these were features > that only specific customers wanted for themselves (and no other > customer would ever see the use for), the application became completely > schizophrenic from a developers point of view. I can see the value in > giving a customer the option to elevate a fix to a bug (entered in > Mantis and verified by Paradigma as a bug), but I strongly recommend you > avoid the path of allowing individuals to "purchase features". Thank you for good point, Jon! Let me clarify and also answer on Charles concern. * yes this should work for bugs only * yes we not going delay bug fixes to make on this money * target of this just give for a commercial developer mechanism to force Paradigma set high priority for a known bug. This happens very rare I think, and means that THIS bug is considered by Paradigm as minor *and* time-eating for fix. So we each time defer it and choose other bugs and other things to do which affect most or all people. For example, if I need choose between bug of local engine which affect one developer, and bug of Valentina Server, then what I choose? Right. I choose Valentina Sever. But if some developer/company think that THIS bug affect its product image/sales and so no, then they want force us fix this big... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Thu Oct 13 10:36:37 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Thu Oct 13 12:36:45 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes: Your FeedbackWanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051013173642.80A5D1501E@skewer.dreamhost.com> > application in a timely fashion. Since so many of these were > features that only specific customers wanted for themselves > (and no other customer would ever see the use for), the > application became completely schizophrenic from a developers > point of view. I can see the value in giving a customer the > option to elevate a fix to a bug (entered in Mantis and > verified by Paradigma as a bug), but I strongly recommend you > avoid the path of allowing individuals to "purchase features". Yes, this is something we definitely want to avoid. Ideally, if we did accept a feature request for payment, it would have to be something we'd likely want to add anyway, just cannot otherwise prioritize for the then current release. We don't need the an embedded tank game in Server like you used to be able to find inside of Excel (Windows) :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 14 00:20:56 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 13 16:21:06 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4MD, V4RB, V4REV updated docs are uploaded. Message-ID: Hi All, * Corrected errors. * added new functions implemented for 2.1 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From daisychain at iinet.net.au Fri Oct 14 07:22:58 2005 From: daisychain at iinet.net.au (Damon Pillinger) Date: Thu Oct 13 16:25:55 2005 Subject: easy SQL question In-Reply-To: <10410358017.20051013120520@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <000e01c5d03c$51c55830$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Many thanks Ivan, I knew it would be simple, the filed names are not those given they are actually SALESPERSON, TOTALSALES, TOTALVAT, TOTALUNITS etc... Thanks Best Regards Damon L. Pillinger Jensen 2005 by Daisychain www.daisychain.no-ip.biz Phone : 03 9532 1220 Fax : 03 9532 1280 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Ivan Smahin Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 7:05 PM To: Valentina Developers Subject: Re: easy SQL question Hello Damon, Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:38:27 AM, you wrote: DP> Hi Guys, DP> Not good enough at SQL to figure this out myself. DP> Table with two fields name & Count DP> name count DP> John 2 DP> Ben 3 DP> John 5 DP> John 23 DP> Ben 3 DP> Ben 7 DP> John 3 DP> John 8 DP> What I want is this returned DP> John 41 DP> Ben 13 DP> I have read up on unique and distinct but cannot figure it out, the SUM DP> bit is easy but I think I have to have one call for each person DP> select SUM(count) from data where name="John" DP> select SUM(count) from data where name="Ben" DP> and there could be hundreds of names , so this would be BAD. select name, SUM(count) from data GROUP BY name BTW, It would be better to have another field name rather then "count". SQL-parser might be confused with it because it is keyword. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From daisychain at iinet.net.au Fri Oct 14 07:28:42 2005 From: daisychain at iinet.net.au (Damon Pillinger) Date: Thu Oct 13 16:28:49 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4MD, V4RB, V4REV updated docs are uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000f01c5d03d$1636f4d0$6500a8c0@daisycha24016e> Thanks Best Regards Damon L. Pillinger Jensen 2005 by Daisychain www.daisychain.no-ip.biz Phone : 03 9532 1220 Fax : 03 9532 1280 -----Original Message----- From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Ruslan Zasukhin Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 7:21 AM To: valentina@lists.macserve.net; valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net Subject: [ANN] V4MD, V4RB, V4REV updated docs are uploaded. Hi All, * Corrected errors. * added new functions implemented for 2.1 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Valentina mailing list Valentina@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From miescher at bizdata.com Fri Oct 14 09:16:15 2005 From: miescher at bizdata.com (John W. Miescher) Date: Fri Oct 14 02:16:20 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes Message-ID: <000801c5d08f$2b296100$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> I agree with the comment that one has to distinuish between bug fixes and new feature requests falsly declared as bugs. about bugs: My experience is that practically all bugs I reported were fixed quite rapidly and that Ruslan has done a remarkable job in either seeing the corrections trough or suggesting a workoraund or showing that it is not a bug at all but an error in my programming or false interpretation of the manual. As a developper I already pay a high price for bugs in that I spend extra time (sometimes late at night) which I cannot bill to customers or even that I loose some business. When you pay for a product that has been officially released, you'd expect it to run bugfree and to be able to go on with your work without delay. Why pay extra for soething that should not be there in the first place? about new features: It is up to the Paradigma team to decide if a new feature would be of general interest and would thus add value to their product or if it is just to satidfy an individual need. In the latter case I'd agree to pay extra upon receiving a quote. Bizgraphic - Geneva John W. Miescher A: 81, ch. de la Seymaz V: CH-1253 Vandoeuvres T: +41 22 860 0182 F: +41 22 860 0183 E: miescher@bizdata.com From leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl Fri Oct 14 15:08:47 2005 From: leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl (Leo Van den Brande) Date: Fri Oct 14 08:03:02 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db Message-ID: <434FADDF.90201@wxs.nl> Hi all, After conversion of a database from Val 1 to 2 I experience an encoding problem. I develop on Mac OS 10.2.6 with Realbasic 5.5.2. With Val 1, I applied conversion to MacRoman for Mac and WindowsLatin1 for Windows, both on storage and retrieval. This worked well. According to the documentation and discussions, Val2 delivers UTF8 format which is Realbasic format. So, I queried with: c = App.mValdb1.SQLSelect(s,EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, EVLockType.kReadOnly, EVCursorDirection.kRandom) and retrieved a string with: aResult = c.Field().GetString Accented characters do not show correctly in RB on Mac. I tested many alternatives on Mac: convert encoding to MacRoman on retrieval, convert to MacRoman after retrieval, but none was successful. On Windows, the converted DB caused errors on opening. I have not yet examined that problem and first want to focus on the behaviour on Mac. Note that this code works perfectly well with a new db created on Mac, also when ported to Windows. Where am I in error? Please enlighten me! I am gratefull for any suggestion. Leo -- Leo Van den Brande J.Buziaulaan 61 3584 ZT Utrecht Tel: (+31) 30 2511767 Fax: (+31) (0)84 756 5233 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 14 16:10:20 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 14 08:10:27 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db In-Reply-To: <434FADDF.90201@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/14/05 4:08 PM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: Hi Leo, > After conversion of a database from Val 1 to 2 I experience an encoding > problem. > > I develop on Mac OS 10.2.6 with Realbasic 5.5.2. > > With Val 1, I applied conversion to MacRoman for Mac and WindowsLatin1 for > Windows, both on storage and retrieval. This worked well. Just REMOVE all this code with v2 !!! V4RB expect to see RB String in UTF8 format > According to the documentation and discussions, Val2 delivers UTF8 format > which is Realbasic format. right > So, I queried with: > c = App.mValdb1.SQLSelect(s,EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, > EVLockType.kReadOnly, EVCursorDirection.kRandom) > > and retrieved a string with: > aResult = c.Field().GetString > Accented characters do not show correctly in RB on Mac. > I tested many alternatives on Mac: convert encoding to MacRoman on retrieval, > convert to MacRoman after retrieval, but none was successful. NO NEED to convert anything !!! > On Windows, the converted DB caused errors on opening. I have not yet examined > that problem and first want to focus on the behaviour on Mac. > > Note that this code works perfectly well with a new db created on Mac, also > when ported to Windows. "This code"? Above code? So have I correctly understand, fresh db created by V2 works fine, But converted_1_2() do not work accents. Right ? What language was in v1 database? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Fri Oct 14 09:13:31 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Fri Oct 14 08:13:39 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db In-Reply-To: <434FADDF.90201@wxs.nl> References: <434FADDF.90201@wxs.nl> Message-ID: >After conversion of a database from Val 1 to 2 I experience an >encoding problem. > >I develop on Mac OS 10.2.6 with Realbasic 5.5.2. > >With Val 1, I applied conversion to MacRoman for Mac and >WindowsLatin1 for Windows, both on storage and retrieval. This >worked well. > >According to the documentation and discussions, Val2 delivers UTF8 >format which is Realbasic format. > >So, I queried with: >c = App.mValdb1.SQLSelect(s,EVCursorLocation.kServerSide, >EVLockType.kReadOnly, EVCursorDirection.kRandom) > >and retrieved a string with: >aResult = c.Field().GetString > >Accented characters do not show correctly in RB on Mac. I filed a bug report on this a long time ago (can't find it on Mantis right now). Ruslan says that's because V2 doesn't know the encoding of the source 1.x db. I pointed out that if the specified language is a Roman one (like English) the encoding will be MacRoman on a Mac, and so the conversion should work. That was the end of it. I think all conversion-related issues have been tabled... Jon From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Fri Oct 14 15:34:36 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Fri Oct 14 17:34:46 2005 Subject: Valentina Developer Program For Priority Fixes In-Reply-To: <000801c5d08f$2b296100$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Message-ID: <20051014223438.0AC2317D046@spatula.dreamhost.com> > about bugs: > My experience is that practically all bugs I reported were > fixed quite rapidly and that Ruslan has done a remarkable job > in either seeing the corrections trough or suggesting a > workoraund or showing that it is not a bug at all but an > error in my programming or false interpretation of the manual. Right. That likely is not going to change (much). > As a developper I already pay a high price for bugs in that I > spend extra time (sometimes late at night) which I cannot > bill to customers or even that I loose some business. When > you pay for a product that has been officially released, > you'd expect it to run bugfree and to be able to go on with > your work without delay. Why pay extra for soething that > should not be there in the first place? This is about prioritization. In any release, there is a limit as to what will be fixed, improved or added. But often there are issues that affect a small number of users and they don't make it. Fortunately, Valentina sells into almost every major market in the world so international or unicode related issues are much higher priority for Paradigma than for other software companies. But, sometimes one customer really needs a feature/fix and doesn't want to wait until their issue comes to the top of the list. This would allow those users to move their issue to the top of the list. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Oct 15 16:38:46 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Oct 15 15:38:54 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID Message-ID: Shouldn't VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID properly be VTable.LastInsertedRecID? -------------- Charles Yeomans From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Sat Oct 15 23:49:09 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Sat Oct 15 15:49:08 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5210220264.20051015234909@public.kherson.ua> Hello Charles, Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:38:46 PM, you wrote: CY> Shouldn't VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID properly be CY> VTable.LastInsertedRecID? No. It's database property. It means "last inserted RecID in any table of the current database by current user". -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Oct 15 16:55:45 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Oct 15 15:55:48 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: <5210220264.20051015234909@public.kherson.ua> References: <5210220264.20051015234909@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: On Oct 15, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > Hello Charles, > > Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:38:46 PM, you wrote: > > CY> Shouldn't VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID properly be > CY> VTable.LastInsertedRecID? > > No. It's database property. > It means "last inserted RecID in any table of the current database by > current user". Since a recID is a property of a record in a table, it seems to me that it should be a VTable property. Why is it a VDatabase property? -------------- Charles Yeomans From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 00:08:50 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Sat Oct 15 16:08:47 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: References: <5210220264.20051015234909@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <1875642812.20051016000850@public.kherson.ua> Hello Charles, Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:55:45 PM, you wrote: CY> On Oct 15, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: >> Hello Charles, >> >> Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:38:46 PM, you wrote: >> >> CY> Shouldn't VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID properly be >> CY> VTable.LastInsertedRecID? >> >> No. It's database property. >> It means "last inserted RecID in any table of the current database by >> current user". CY> Since a recID is a property of a record in a table, it seems to me that CY> it should be a VTable property. Why is it a VDatabase property? Do you really need the last inserted recID for each table? You may use something like this: SQLExecute( "insert into t1 ..." ) SQLExecute( " insert into t2 (ptr_to_t1_Field) values( " + VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID + ")" ) -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Oct 15 17:56:46 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Oct 15 16:56:49 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: <1875642812.20051016000850@public.kherson.ua> References: <5210220264.20051015234909@public.kherson.ua> <1875642812.20051016000850@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: On Oct 15, 2005, at 5:08 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > Hello Charles, > > Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:55:45 PM, you wrote: > > > CY> On Oct 15, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > >>> Hello Charles, >>> >>> Saturday, October 15, 2005, 11:38:46 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> CY> Shouldn't VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID properly be >>> CY> VTable.LastInsertedRecID? >>> >>> No. It's database property. >>> It means "last inserted RecID in any table of the current database >>> by >>> current user". > > CY> Since a recID is a property of a record in a table, it seems to me > that > CY> it should be a VTable property. Why is it a VDatabase property? > > Do you really need the last inserted recID for each table? I do, because I've been using it since Valentina 1.x with cursors. > > You may use something like this: > SQLExecute( "insert into t1 ..." ) > SQLExecute( " insert into t2 (ptr_to_t1_Field) values( > " + > VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID + ")" ) I suppose, but I am curious about the question of design; a recID is a property of a record and a table, so it seems to me that VTable is the appropriate place for such a property. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 01:21:42 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Oct 15 17:21:43 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/16/05 12:56 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> CY> Since a recID is a property of a record in a table, it seems to me >> that >> CY> it should be a VTable property. Why is it a VDatabase property? >> >> Do you really need the last inserted recID for each table? > > I do, because I've been using it since Valentina 1.x with cursors. Charles, Ivan have FIX this broken with with RecId. You will have in next build 3 ways to get RecID !!!!! 1) v1 way: SELECT Recid, ... 2) v2 way: recid = curs.AddRecord() 3) v2 way like have mySQL and others db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() // this is recid of T1. I think MORE THAN enough. Agree ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 01:23:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Oct 15 17:23:22 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/16/05 12:56 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> You may use something like this: >> SQLExecute( "insert into t1 ..." ) >> SQLExecute( " insert into t2 (ptr_to_t1_Field) values( >> " + >> VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID + ")" ) > > I suppose, but I am curious about the question of design; a recID is a > property of a record and a table, so it seems to me that VTable is the > appropriate place for such a property. Yes, right but: 1) mySQL have this on DB level. and we was need the same for VPHP to repeat mySQL API 2) we have consider storing of this in TABLE, but a) this make things much more complex internally. b) it seems any other DBMS do not do this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl Sun Oct 16 10:34:54 2005 From: leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl (Leo Van den Brande) Date: Sun Oct 16 03:29:12 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db In-Reply-To: <20051015204915.2B4D73A7C30@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051015204915.2B4D73A7C30@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <435210AE.2050003@wxs.nl> Thanks Ruslan and Jon! Ruslan: >> Note that this code works perfectly well with a new db created on Mac, also >> when ported to Windows. > This code"? Above code? c = App.mValdb1.SQLSelect(s,EVCursorLocation.kServerSide,EVLockType.kReadOnly, EVCursorDirection.kRandom) aResult = c.Field().GetString > So have I correctly understand, fresh db created by V2 works fine, > But converted_1_2() do not work accents. > Right ? Right. > What language was in v1 database? German. This was removed for v2 field definitions. OK? Jon: > I filed a bug report on this a long time ago (can't find it on Mantis > right now). Ruslan says that's because V2 doesn't know the encoding > of the source 1.x db. I pointed out that if the specified language is > a Roman one (like English) the encoding will be MacRoman on a Mac, > and so the conversion should work. That was the end of it. I think > all conversion-related issues have been tabled... I used encoding MacRoman for Mac build and WindowsLatin1 for Windows both for storage and retrieval. The v1 db which I am presently trying to convert was created on a Mac build. However, I should also be able to convert v1 db's which have been created and filled by the users running a Windows build. Leo -- Leo Van den Brande J.Buziaulaan 61 3584 ZT Utrecht Tel: (+31) 30 2511767 Fax: (+31) (0)84 756 5233 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 12:47:46 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 16 04:47:57 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db In-Reply-To: <435210AE.2050003@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/16/05 11:34 AM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: >> What language was in v1 database? > > German. This was removed for v2 field definitions. OK? Yes Now it is enough only set db.Locale("de_DE") -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 12:49:02 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 16 04:49:14 2005 Subject: Encoding of 1-2 converted db In-Reply-To: <435210AE.2050003@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/16/05 11:34 AM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: >> I filed a bug report on this a long time ago (can't find it on Mantis >> right now). Ruslan says that's because V2 doesn't know the encoding >> of the source 1.x db. I pointed out that if the specified language is >> a Roman one (like English) the encoding will be MacRoman on a Mac, >> and so the conversion should work. That was the end of it. I think >> all conversion-related issues have been tabled... > > I used encoding MacRoman for Mac build and WindowsLatin1 for Windows both for > storage and retrieval. > The v1 db which I am presently trying to convert was created on a Mac build. > However, I should also be able to convert v1 db's which have been created and > filled by the users running a Windows build. Leo, Well it looks we need with your help try resolve this problem. So we will need * detailed description of - what you have - what you do - what you get - what you expect to get * some small dbs for us to test -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Sun Oct 16 10:35:34 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sun Oct 16 09:35:38 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73be9dbc7e51592705bc5030088a24e4@desuetude.com> On Oct 15, 2005, at 6:21 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/16/05 12:56 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> CY> Since a recID is a property of a record in a table, it seems to >>> me >>> that >>> CY> it should be a VTable property. Why is it a VDatabase property? >>> >>> Do you really need the last inserted recID for each table? >> >> I do, because I've been using it since Valentina 1.x with cursors. > > Charles, > > Ivan have FIX this broken with with RecId. > You will have in next build 3 ways to get RecID !!!!! > > 1) v1 way: > > SELECT Recid, ... > > 2) v2 way: > > recid = curs.AddRecord() > > 3) v2 way like have mySQL and others > > db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) > > recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() // this is recid of T1. > > > I think MORE THAN enough. > > Agree ? Yes. -------------- Charles Yeomans From yeomans at desuetude.com Sun Oct 16 10:37:25 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sun Oct 16 09:37:29 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05fdb27445d368eabd1d776e8a7feb4d@desuetude.com> On Oct 15, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/16/05 12:56 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> You may use something like this: >>> SQLExecute( "insert into t1 ..." ) >>> SQLExecute( " insert into t2 (ptr_to_t1_Field) values( >>> " + >>> VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID + ")" ) >> >> I suppose, but I am curious about the question of design; a recID is a >> property of a record and a table, so it seems to me that VTable is the >> appropriate place for such a property. > > Yes, right but: > > 1) mySQL have this on DB level. > > and we was need the same for VPHP to repeat mySQL API Okay, this makes sense. > 2) we have consider storing of this in TABLE, but > > a) this make things much more complex internally. > b) it seems any other DBMS do not do this. But I thought Valentina liked doing what no other DBMS does :) -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 16 22:10:04 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 16 14:10:18 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: <05fdb27445d368eabd1d776e8a7feb4d@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 10/16/05 5:37 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Yes, right but: >> >> 1) mySQL have this on DB level. >> >> and we was need the same for VPHP to repeat mySQL API > > Okay, this makes sense. > >> 2) we have consider storing of this in TABLE, but >> >> a) this make things much more complex internally. >> b) it seems any other DBMS do not do this. > > But I thought Valentina liked doing what no other DBMS does :) I knew you'll say this! :-) Just really not many sense here. If somebody can show that this good idea, and it help write simpler code, Then we will add such feature of course. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Sun Oct 16 22:21:27 2005 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Sun Oct 16 15:21:34 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Creating database Message-ID: Hi, I am creating a database with the line: myDatabase.Create(f, 4, cache) where f is a valid folderitem. Nothing happens, no error, no file created, all the code is executed but without results. Should I do somethind special with the create command? I am using the same project I used during v2 beta tests and without any modifications it no longer works. The database init looks like that: #if DebugBuild Valentina.DebugLevel = EVDebugLevel.kLogParams #endif aCache = 5 * 1024 *1024 Valentina.Init(aCache, "xxxxxxxxxxxx", "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" ) If Valentina.CacheSize = 0 then MsgBox kError_DatabaseInitFailure + " " + Str(Error) Quit end if Valentina.SetExtensions "vdb", "dat", "blb", "ind" RB 2005-R4 + Valentina 2.0.4 -- ~/Stan Maxprog? From leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl Mon Oct 17 00:19:23 2005 From: leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl (Leo Van den Brande) Date: Sun Oct 16 17:13:38 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: <20051016191019.7F6733A8B8A@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051016191019.7F6733A8B8A@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <4352D1EB.6030607@wxs.nl> Hi Ruslan, > Now it is enough only set > db.Locale("de_DE") At first I tried in constructor of my subclass ValDb. But there I had no autocompletion. Next in Open Database: App.mValdb1 = new ValDB App.mValdb1.locale = "de_DE" I get autocompletion, but .locale is an unknown property. It is in the reference manual but autocompletion does not show it. What now? Thanks, Leo -- Leo Van den Brande J.Buziaulaan 61 3584 ZT Utrecht Tel: (+31) 30 2511767 Fax: (+31) (0)84 756 5233 From yeomans at desuetude.com Sun Oct 16 19:39:58 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sun Oct 16 18:40:02 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48aa81e3b825a8cf90d23b22dc2c1ce0@desuetude.com> On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/16/05 5:37 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> Yes, right but: >>> >>> 1) mySQL have this on DB level. >>> >>> and we was need the same for VPHP to repeat mySQL API >> >> Okay, this makes sense. >> >>> 2) we have consider storing of this in TABLE, but >>> >>> a) this make things much more complex internally. >>> b) it seems any other DBMS do not do this. >> >> But I thought Valentina liked doing what no other DBMS does :) > > I knew you'll say this! :-) > > Just really not many sense here. > > If somebody can show that this good idea, and it help write simpler > code, > Then we will add such feature of course. That AddRecord returns the recID is enough for me. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 10:40:52 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 02:41:07 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Creating database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/16/05 11:21 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, > I am creating a database with the line: > myDatabase.Create(f, 4, cache) where f is a valid folderitem. Nothing > happens, no error, no file created, all the code is executed but > without results. Should I do somethind special with the create > command? I am using the same project I used during v2 beta tests and > without any modifications it no longer works. > > The database init looks like that: > > #if DebugBuild > Valentina.DebugLevel = EVDebugLevel.kLogParams > #endif This should go AFTER Valentina.Init > aCache = 5 * 1024 *1024 > > Valentina.Init(aCache, "xxxxxxxxxxxx", "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" ) > > If Valentina.CacheSize = 0 then > MsgBox kError_DatabaseInitFailure + " " + Str(Error) > Quit > end if > > Valentina.SetExtensions "vdb", "dat", "blb", "ind" And where is code with db create ? > RB 2005-R4 + Valentina 2.0.4 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 10:44:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 02:44:38 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: <4352D1EB.6030607@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/17/05 1:19 AM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > >> Now it is enough only set > >> db.Locale("de_DE") > > At first I tried in constructor of my subclass ValDb. But there I had no > autocompletion. > > Next in Open Database: > > App.mValdb1 = new ValDB > App.mValdb1.locale = "de_DE" I see that it is db.LocaleName > I get autocompletion, but .locale is an unknown property. It is in the > reference manual but autocompletion does not show it. You sure that you use latest version of docs ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Oct 17 11:33:31 2005 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Oct 17 04:33:39 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Creating database (Fixed) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42CD54D1-DC07-42F9-A0EF-10096F2006D6@mac.com> Hi, First I do Valentina Init and then create the database. Nothing happens. If I try to add a record I get a crash with no message. I have used RB debugger to go step by step into the app but no error either. Everything seems to be performed. I have also removed all the valentina files from Library/CFMSupport and reinstalled, no joy... I have tried all kind of path and folderitem names, nothing works. Then I tried to run examples, they work... so I have screened them detail- fully and found out the "vDatabase( EVStorageType.kDisk )" line added to the VDatabase object, I have added it and all work again! Stan > On 10/16/05 11:21 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > Hi Stan, > > >> I am creating a database with the line: >> myDatabase.Create(f, 4, cache) where f is a valid folderitem. Nothing >> happens, no error, no file created, all the code is executed but >> without results. Should I do somethind special with the create >> command? I am using the same project I used during v2 beta tests and >> without any modifications it no longer works. >> >> The database init looks like that: >> >> #if DebugBuild >> Valentina.DebugLevel = EVDebugLevel.kLogParams >> #endif >> > > This should go AFTER Valentina.Init > > >> aCache = 5 * 1024 *1024 >> >> Valentina.Init(aCache, "xxxxxxxxxxxx", "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" ) >> >> If Valentina.CacheSize = 0 then >> MsgBox kError_DatabaseInitFailure + " " + Str(Error) >> Quit >> end if >> >> Valentina.SetExtensions "vdb", "dat", "blb", "ind" >> > > And where is code with db create ? > > >> RB 2005-R4 + Valentina 2.0.4 >> > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > -- ~/Stan Maxprog? From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 12:57:12 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 04:57:25 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Creating database (Fixed) In-Reply-To: <42CD54D1-DC07-42F9-A0EF-10096F2006D6@mac.com> Message-ID: On 10/17/05 12:33 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > First I do Valentina Init and then create the database. Nothing > happens. If I try to add a record I get a crash with no message. I > have used RB debugger to go step by step into the app but no error > either. Everything seems to be performed. I have also removed all the > valentina files from Library/CFMSupport and reinstalled, no joy... I > have tried all kind of path and folderitem names, nothing works. Then > I tried to run examples, they work... so I have screened them detail- > fully and found out the "vDatabase( EVStorageType.kDisk )" line added > to the VDatabase object, I have added it and all work again! Aha, you use classes and own myDatabase class Then yes this is required step. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ayu8 at cdc.gov Mon Oct 17 08:27:11 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Mon Oct 17 07:31:31 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID Message-ID: > > You will have in next build 3 ways to get RecID !!!!! > > > > > > 3) v2 way like have mySQL and others > > > > db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) > > > > recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() // this is recid of T1. Hi Ruslan, I'd like to get some clarification on option #3 if we are working with Vserver in a multi-user environment. Scenario: User 1 calls: db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) User 2 calls: db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T2 ..." ) [before User 1's app can call...] User 1 calls: recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() What does User 1 get for recid? T1 last record inserted or T2 last record inserted? I would guess User 1 will get the last record added to T2. Thanks, Ruslan. -John From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 15:39:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 07:39:59 2005 Subject: [V4Rb] VDatabase.LastInsertedRecID In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 3:27 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: >>> You will have in next build 3 ways to get RecID !!!!! >>> >>> >>> 3) v2 way like have mySQL and others >>> >>> db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) >>> >>> recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() // this is recid of T1. > > Hi Ruslan, > > I'd like to get some clarification on option #3 if we are working with > Vserver in a multi-user environment. > > Scenario: > > User 1 calls: db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T1 ..." ) > User 2 calls: db.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T2 ..." ) > [before User 1's app can call...] > User 1 calls: recid = db.LastInsertedRecID() > > What does User 1 get for recid? T1 last record inserted or T2 last > record inserted? I would guess User 1 will get the last record added to > T2. ANSWER is in new docs: users do NOT see each other. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 20:02:14 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:02:19 2005 Subject: Valentina slowish in cd Message-ID: Hello all, I have the feeling that Valentina runs slower from a CD than from our LAN, although it should be able to be even quicker, since it's not bothered by network-trafic etc. Does anyone have optimising-tips?? Thanx, Aart Jan (By the way, Ruslan, the Mac version works perfectly now! (although it seems a bit slower than the Windows version)) Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl From derrick at xact.co.za Mon Oct 17 20:13:15 2005 From: derrick at xact.co.za (Derrick Muller) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:13:35 2005 Subject: Database maintenance utility Message-ID: <20051017181320.4434A2CAC8@mx1.vodamail.co.za> Is there a Valentina utility to allow maintenance, creating, browsing, etc. of a Valentina databases. DERRICK MULLER From maxprog at mac.com Mon Oct 17 20:42:04 2005 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:42:14 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Beach ball Message-ID: Hi, After fixing my first problem I started to import about 30,000 records from a tab delimited file using my own routine. It started imported correctly and at a quite fast pace, looks like much faster that v1, but after a given record amount and with 30% left, the beach ball appears and the app stays frozen. I have tried several times with the same result. If I force quit the database file is unusable, the app crash as soon as you try to open it. Where could that come from? stack overflow inside Valentinav2? The same code with Valentinav1 works fine. Any idea? Thanks, -- ~/Stan Maxprog? From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 21:48:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:48:36 2005 Subject: Database maintenance utility In-Reply-To: <20051017181320.4434A2CAC8@mx1.vodamail.co.za> Message-ID: On 10/17/05 9:13 PM, "Derrick Muller" wrote: > > Is there a Valentina utility to allow maintenance, creating, browsing, etc. > of a Valentina databases. Yes Derrick, Valentina Studio -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 21:49:00 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:49:16 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Beach ball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 9:42 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > After fixing my first problem I started to import about 30,000 > records from a tab delimited file using my own routine. It started > imported correctly and at a quite fast pace, looks like much faster > that v1, but after a given record amount and with 30% left, the beach > ball appears and the app stays frozen. I have tried several times > with the same result. If I force quit the database file is unusable, > the app crash as soon as you try to open it. > > Where could that come from? stack overflow inside Valentinav2? The > same code with Valentinav1 works fine. Try set more cache..just for check -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 21:49:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 13:49:36 2005 Subject: Valentina slowish in cd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 9:02 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hello all, > > I have the feeling that Valentina runs slower from a CD than from our > LAN, although it should be able to be even quicker, since it's not > bothered by network-trafic etc. > > Does anyone have optimising-tips?? Hi Jan, Try set bigger cache size -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Oct 17 21:16:23 2005 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Oct 17 14:16:30 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Beach ball In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No joy, I have allocated more RAM to the cache but it still freezes way thru. Actually it now freezes a bit sooner... > On 10/17/05 9:42 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> After fixing my first problem I started to import about 30,000 >> records from a tab delimited file using my own routine. It started >> imported correctly and at a quite fast pace, looks like much faster >> that v1, but after a given record amount and with 30% left, the beach >> ball appears and the app stays frozen. I have tried several times >> with the same result. If I force quit the database file is unusable, >> the app crash as soon as you try to open it. >> >> Where could that come from? stack overflow inside Valentinav2? The >> same code with Valentinav1 works fine. >> > > Try set more cache..just for check > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > -- ~/Stan Maxprog? From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:00:48 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:00:52 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Hi all, does anybody know error 460035? My project runs fine on XP and 2000, but on a very old (and Turkish) 98 machine I get this error as last error after sending a query with sqlSelect(query) (maybe it's an earlier error, but after the query I notice things go bad because I don't get an object) Any thoughts? Thanx, Aart Jan Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:20:24 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:20:35 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:00 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hi all, > > does anybody know error 460035? > My project runs fine on XP and 2000, but on a very old (and Turkish) 98 > machine I get this error as last error after sending a query with > sqlSelect(query) Try to check Error String > (maybe it's an earlier error, but after the query I notice things go bad > because I don't get an object) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:21:43 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:21:47 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: > Try to check Error String unfortunately: empty..... AJ > > > (maybe it's an earlier error, but after the query I notice > things go > > bad because I don't get an object) > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:23:38 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:23:43 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: By the way, opening the DB results in a nice "1", but gBD.tablecount returns 0! Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 22:20 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > On 10/17/05 11:00 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > does anybody know error 460035? > > My project runs fine on XP and 2000, but on a very old (and > Turkish) > > 98 machine I get this error as last error after sending a query with > > sqlSelect(query) > > Try to check Error String > > > (maybe it's an earlier error, but after the query I notice > things go > > bad because I don't get an object) > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:25:56 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:26:07 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:21 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: >> Try to check Error String > > unfortunately: empty..... So go to Vcomponents/vresources/errors/*.xml files Hmm, here there is no such code error. Aha, we need see error code in HEX. So 460035 = 70503h ERR_TABLE_NOT_FOUND Table "%S" not found. Table not found. Strange that you do not see error description. Check name of your table -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:28:01 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:28:13 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:23 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > By the way, opening the DB results in a nice "1", but gBD.tablecount > returns 0! This is why table not found Check your db ..using Valentina Studio may be -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:29:36 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:29:40 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Could it be a win 98 situation, a low-memory situation or a Turkey situation? (I surely hope it's the last...) Exactly the same query (effectively everyone in the project) returns fine results on XP. Besides, isn't it strange that the database opens fine, but doesn't contain tables? (On another machine the same db opens and contains 2 tables...) AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 22:26 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > On 10/17/05 11:21 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > >> Try to check Error String > > > > unfortunately: empty..... > > So go to Vcomponents/vresources/errors/*.xml files > > Hmm, here there is no such code error. > > Aha, we need see error code in HEX. > So > > 460035 = 70503h > > > ERR_TABLE_NOT_FOUND > Table "%S" not found. > > > > Table not found. > > Strange that you do not see error description. > > Check name of your table > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:34:07 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:34:17 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:29 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Could it be a win 98 situation, a low-memory situation or a Turkey > situation? > (I surely hope it's the last...) > > Exactly the same query (effectively everyone in the project) returns > fine results on XP. > > Besides, isn't it strange that the database opens fine, but doesn't > contain tables? (On another machine the same db opens and contains 2 > tables...) You work on win98 ? Hmm.... I afraid that v2 will have problems there. Vserver exactly not works on win98 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:41:05 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:41:10 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Thanx, very clear. No change on changes in that? Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 22:34 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > On 10/17/05 11:29 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > > > Could it be a win 98 situation, a low-memory situation or a Turkey > > situation? > > (I surely hope it's the last...) > > > > Exactly the same query (effectively everyone in the > project) returns > > fine results on XP. > > > > Besides, isn't it strange that the database opens fine, but doesn't > > contain tables? (On another machine the same db opens and contains 2 > > tables...) > > You work on win98 ? > > Hmm.... I afraid that v2 will have problems there. > Vserver exactly not works on win98 > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:43:36 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:43:47 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Thanx, very clear. > No change on changes in that? For now no. We have see very odd problems with win98... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 17 13:51:07 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:51:12 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > wrote: > >> Thanx, very clear. >> No change on changes in that? > > For now no. > > We have see very odd problems with win98... You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 22:53:40 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:53:45 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: > For now no. > > We have see very odd problems with win98... > I'll have to make a readme.txt than, can you give me a minimal systems requirement? (for instance, what about Windows ME?) We gave up 95 and NT4.0 a few years ago, but on this project's cover it still says 98, ME, 2000 or XP AJ > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:55:14 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:55:24 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: >>> Thanx, very clear. >>> No change on changes in that? >> >> For now no. >> >> We have see very odd problems with win98... > > You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly > mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). Yes right. Just was a hope. But Igor have 2 weeks fight with this .. It not works on some installation of wind98 SE2 It seems this comes from Visual .NET (C++ 2003) which we use. > I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects > under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it > doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 17 23:58:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:59:00 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:53 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: >> For now no. >> >> We have see very odd problems with win98... >> > I'll have to make a readme.txt than, can you give me a minimal systems > requirement? > (for instance, what about Windows ME?) > We gave up 95 and NT4.0 a few years ago, but on this project's cover it > still says 98, ME, 2000 or XP We did have complains only on Win98. Nothing else -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From fitzbew at nc.rr.com Mon Oct 17 16:59:38 2005 From: fitzbew at nc.rr.com (RB User) Date: Mon Oct 17 15:59:43 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" >> wrote: >> >>> Thanx, very clear. >>> No change on changes in that? >> >> For now no. >> >> We have see very odd problems with win98... > > You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly > mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). > > I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects > under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it > doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. > Ruslan and others, We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me are still supported in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? Russ From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 18 00:09:33 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 16:09:45 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: > On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanx, very clear. >>>> No change on changes in that? >>> >>> For now no. >>> >>> We have see very odd problems with win98... >> >> You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly >> mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). >> >> I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects >> under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it >> doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. >> > > Ruslan and others, > > We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me are still supported > in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? ME - yes. Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Mon Oct 17 23:14:27 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Mon Oct 17 16:14:33 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Yep, I'll have to test on other machines, since this one happens to be Win98 in Turkish(!) I'm also developing a single-user application, from Director (V4MD, like Ruslan said). Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 23:10 > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: > > > On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" > wrote: > > > >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> > >>> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanx, very clear. > >>>> No change on changes in that? > >>> > >>> For now no. > >>> > >>> We have see very odd problems with win98... > >> > >> You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly > >> mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). > >> > >> I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects > >> under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it > >> doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. > >> > > > > Ruslan and others, > > > > We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me are still > > supported in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? > > ME - yes. > > Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 18 00:14:52 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 16:15:02 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Beach ball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/17/05 10:16 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, Bad. So we need A) find fast workaround for you ? B) try reproduce this on our side. > No joy, I have allocated more RAM to the cache but it still freezes > way thru. Actually it now freezes a bit sooner... > >> On 10/17/05 9:42 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> After fixing my first problem I started to import about 30,000 >>> records from a tab delimited file using my own routine. It started >>> imported correctly and at a quite fast pace, looks like much faster >>> that v1, but after a given record amount and with 30% left, the beach >>> ball appears and the app stays frozen. I have tried several times >>> with the same result. If I force quit the database file is unusable, >>> the app crash as soon as you try to open it. >>> >>> Where could that come from? stack overflow inside Valentinav2? The >>> same code with Valentinav1 works fine. >>> >> >> Try set more cache..just for check -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl Tue Oct 18 00:16:46 2005 From: leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl (Leo Van den Brande) Date: Mon Oct 17 17:16:54 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20051017181341.8B35F3A9C33@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051017181341.8B35F3A9C33@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <435422CE.3040704@wxs.nl> Hi Ruslan, >> I get autocompletion, but .locale is an unknown property. It is in the >> reference manual but autocompletion does not show it. > You sure that you use latest version of docs ? I downloaded the Reference manual again. It says the same. Anyway, I changed to >> App.mValdb1 = new ValDB >> App.mValdb1.LocaleName = "de_DE" Accented characters still come out wrong. So, perhaps I must move on and send you a sample project as you kindly offered. Leo -- Leo Van den Brande J.Buziaulaan 61 3584 ZT Utrecht Tel: (+31) 30 2511767 Fax: (+31) (0)84 756 5233 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 18 01:39:54 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 17 17:40:03 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <435422CE.3040704@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/18/05 1:16 AM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: Hi Leo, >>> I get autocompletion, but .locale is an unknown property. It is in the >>> reference manual but autocompletion does not show it. > >> You sure that you use latest version of docs ? > > I downloaded the Reference manual again. It says the same. > > Anyway, I changed to > >>> App.mValdb1 = new ValDB >>> App.mValdb1.LocaleName = "de_DE" > > Accented characters still come out wrong. In fresh v2 ? Or in converted ? > So, perhaps I must move on and send you a sample project as you kindly > offered. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From heinrichruoff at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 22:49:15 2005 From: heinrichruoff at gmail.com (Heinrich Ruoff) Date: Tue Oct 18 04:49:20 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For me V4MD2 doesn't work with Windows 98 SE German and English. (still hoping for an update) Heinrich On 10/18/05, Aart Jan van der Linden wrote: > > Yep, I'll have to test on other machines, since this one happens to be > Win98 in Turkish(!) > > I'm also developing a single-user application, from Director (V4MD, like > Ruslan said). > > Aart Jan van der Linden > multimedia developer > > Talmon Communicatie > Villawal 5 > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > The Netherlands > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Ruslan Zasukhin > > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 23:10 > > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > > > On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: > > > > > On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" > > wrote: > > > > > >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > >> > > >>> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Thanx, very clear. > > >>>> No change on changes in that? > > >>> > > >>> For now no. > > >>> > > >>> We have see very odd problems with win98... > > >> > > >> You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly > > >> mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). > > >> > > >> I'm glad this came up because I have been planning some projects > > >> under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win 98. Since it > > >> doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. > > >> > > > > > > Ruslan and others, > > > > > > We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me are still > > > supported in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? > > > > ME - yes. > > > > Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > > Ruslan Zasukhin > > VP Engineering and New Technology > > Paradigma Software, Inc > > > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Valentina mailing list > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 18 14:59:52 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 18 08:00:01 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Ruslan, I'm in a bit of trouble, since our client demands Win98 support. We'll have to rebuild the database into 1.x (or any version that runs on W98) I had a lot of trouble with my last Valentina "Studio" in the 1.x version, can you please point me to stable downloads of the valentina 1.x studio and Xtra for Director? Thanx, AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Heinrich Ruoff > Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 11:49 > Aan: Valentina Developers > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > For me V4MD2 doesn't work with Windows 98 SE German and English. > (still hoping for an update) > > Heinrich > > > > On 10/18/05, Aart Jan van der Linden wrote: > > > > Yep, I'll have to test on other machines, since this one > happens to be > > Win98 in Turkish(!) > > > > I'm also developing a single-user application, from Director (V4MD, > > like Ruslan said). > > > > Aart Jan van der Linden > > multimedia developer > > > > Talmon Communicatie > > Villawal 5 > > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > > The Netherlands > > > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > > > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens > Ruslan Zasukhin > > > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 23:10 > > > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > > > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > > > > > On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thanx, very clear. > > > >>>> No change on changes in that? > > > >>> > > > >>> For now no. > > > >>> > > > >>> We have see very odd problems with win98... > > > >> > > > >> You should probably update the VServer docs as they explicitly > > > >> mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). > > > >> > > > >> I'm glad this came up because I have been planning > some projects > > > >> under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win > 98. Since it > > > >> doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ruslan and others, > > > > > > > > We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me > are still > > > > supported in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? > > > > > > ME - yes. > > > > > > Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Ruslan Zasukhin > > > VP Engineering and New Technology > > > Paradigma Software, Inc > > > > > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > > > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > > > > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Valentina mailing list > > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Valentina mailing list > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From aartjan at talmon.nl Tue Oct 18 16:28:35 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Tue Oct 18 09:28:42 2005 Subject: Error 460035 Message-ID: Ruslan, Please ignore my previous post, I managed to get the 2.x DB into a 1.x DB with studio. (A few errors, but the majority is OK). So, it's a pity, but it seems we're back at 1.x here ..... AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Aart Jan > van der Linden > Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 15:00 > Aan: Valentina Developers > Onderwerp: RE: Error 460035 > > Ruslan, > > I'm in a bit of trouble, since our client demands Win98 support. > We'll have to rebuild the database into 1.x (or any version > that runs on > W98) > > I had a lot of trouble with my last Valentina "Studio" in the > 1.x version, can you please point me to stable downloads of > the valentina 1.x studio and Xtra for Director? > > Thanx, > > AJ > > Aart Jan van der Linden > multimedia developer > > Talmon Communicatie > Villawal 5 > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > The Netherlands > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens Heinrich Ruoff > > Verzonden: dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 11:49 > > Aan: Valentina Developers > > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > > > For me V4MD2 doesn't work with Windows 98 SE German and English. > > (still hoping for an update) > > > > Heinrich > > > > > > > > On 10/18/05, Aart Jan van der Linden wrote: > > > > > > Yep, I'll have to test on other machines, since this one > > happens to be > > > Win98 in Turkish(!) > > > > > > I'm also developing a single-user application, from > Director (V4MD, > > > like Ruslan said). > > > > > > Aart Jan van der Linden > > > multimedia developer > > > > > > Talmon Communicatie > > > Villawal 5 > > > 3432 NX Nieuwegein > > > The Netherlands > > > > > > tel: +31(0)30-6013800 > > > fax: +31(0)30-6013801 > > > > > > www: http://www.talmon.nl > > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > > > Van: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > > > > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] Namens > > Ruslan Zasukhin > > > > Verzonden: maandag 17 oktober 2005 23:10 > > > > Aan: valentina@lists.macserve.net > > > > Onderwerp: Re: Error 460035 > > > > > > > > On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 10/17/05 4:51 PM, "Trevor DeVore" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> On 10/17/05 11:41 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Thanx, very clear. > > > > >>>> No change on changes in that? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> For now no. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We have see very odd problems with win98... > > > > >> > > > > >> You should probably update the VServer docs as they > explicitly > > > > >> mention Win98,ME as supported platforms (page 3). > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm glad this came up because I have been planning > > some projects > > > > >> under the assumption that Valentina 2 worked on Win > > 98. Since it > > > > >> doesn't, I need to make some modifications in my plans. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ruslan and others, > > > > > > > > > > We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me > > are still > > > > > supported in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? > > > > > > > > ME - yes. > > > > > > > > Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Ruslan Zasukhin > > > > VP Engineering and New Technology > > > > Paradigma Software, Inc > > > > > > > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > > > > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > > > > > > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Valentina mailing list > > > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Valentina mailing list > > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Valentina mailing list > > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 18 18:21:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 18 10:22:04 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/18/05 5:28 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: Hi Jan, > Ruslan, > > Please ignore my previous post, I managed to get the 2.x DB into a 1.x > DB with studio. (A few errors, but the majority is OK). ok > So, it's a pity, but it seems we're back at 1.x here ..... Really pity. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue Oct 18 13:20:45 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue Oct 18 15:20:51 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 17, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/17/05 11:59 PM, "RB User" wrote: >> Ruslan and others, >> >> We are just talking about vServer, right? Win 98 and Me are still >> supported >> in V4RB (single-user databases) in 2.x ? >> > > ME - yes. > > Jan says he have problems with Win98 and it seems V4MD. Ruslan, So is the official word that a Valentina 2 singer-user database will NOT be supported on Win98 or are you still trying to make it work on Win 98? I still support Win 98 as well so I am going to have to find another solution if there are no plans to support Win 98. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 18 23:52:59 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 18 15:53:09 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/18/05 11:20 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > Ruslan, > > So is the official word that a Valentina 2 singer-user database will > NOT be supported on Win98 or are you still trying to make it work on > Win 98? I still support Win 98 as well so I am going to have to find > another solution if there are no plans to support Win 98. Hi Trevor, I recommend you tests it on win98. Problem was that on our side it have work. On side of tester no. We was not able reproduce problem on our side. Actually there is no visible reason why it should not work there.. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl Tue Oct 18 23:45:33 2005 From: leo_van_den_brande at wxs.nl (Leo Van den Brande) Date: Tue Oct 18 16:45:41 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20 In-Reply-To: <20051018202057.A4E1C3AAFC9@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051018202057.A4E1C3AAFC9@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <43556CFD.9000108@wxs.nl> >> Anyway, I changed to >> >> App.mValdb1 = new ValDB >> App.mValdb1.LocaleName = "de_DE" >> >> Accented characters still come out wrong. > In fresh v2 ? Or in converted ? Converted. Fresh v2 is always OK. Jon also didn't get it right. The language I used was German, but what is the experience with French? Same? Leo -- Leo Van den Brande J.Buziaulaan 61 3584 ZT Utrecht Tel: (+31) 30 2511767 Fax: (+31) (0)84 756 5233 From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 19 09:42:11 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 19 01:42:25 2005 Subject: Valentina Digest, Vol 34, Issue 20 In-Reply-To: <43556CFD.9000108@wxs.nl> Message-ID: On 10/19/05 12:45 AM, "Leo Van den Brande" wrote: >>> Anyway, I changed to >>> >>> App.mValdb1 = new ValDB >>> App.mValdb1.LocaleName = "de_DE" >>> >>> Accented characters still come out wrong. > >> In fresh v2 ? Or in converted ? > > Converted. Fresh v2 is always OK. > > Jon also didn't get it right. The language I used was German, but what is the > experience with French? Same? Then you need send us your v1 database. And info: where db was made (mac or win) where you do conversion And steps to reproduce problem. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From aartjan at talmon.nl Wed Oct 19 16:22:45 2005 From: aartjan at talmon.nl (Aart Jan van der Linden) Date: Wed Oct 19 09:22:50 2005 Subject: Convert 2.x back to 1.x Message-ID: Hello, I'm having some difficulty converting my database from 2.x to 1.x, probably mainly because some records contain newline characters. The dump to xml crashes VStudio on import, opening the sql and pasting it in the SQL input the dump to SQL runs fine, but gives some errors, resulting in an incomplete database. Any thoughts? AJ Aart Jan van der Linden multimedia developer Talmon Communicatie Villawal 5 3432 NX Nieuwegein The Netherlands tel: +31(0)30-6013800 fax: +31(0)30-6013801 www: http://www.talmon.nl From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 19 10:07:32 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 19 11:07:39 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 Message-ID: <649525A2-2A70-4452-B071-7993CF4C3A3F@pcisys.net> Greetings, Having something of a problem with methods in a V4RB2 database being developed in RB2005 being recognized. I've established the constructor function as a RB2005 in the mDatabase class object. I've established a property in the App for mDatabase as VDatabase. However, when I make the call from the opening of the application to construct the database, I get an error of "This method or property does not exist." This sort of approach was not a problem in V4RB1 and RB5.5. What needs to be done for the App to recognize a method inside of a V4RB2 object? The call is this.... mDatabase.CreateStructure() //CreateStructure is the method inside of the mDatabase class object. Regards, Chuck From ayu8 at cdc.gov Wed Oct 19 12:29:35 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Wed Oct 19 11:48:51 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Pelto > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:08 PM > To: Valentina Developers > Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 > > Greetings, > > Having something of a problem with methods in a V4RB2 > database being developed in RB2005 being recognized. > > I've established the constructor function as a RB2005 in the > mDatabase class object. > I've established a property in the App for mDatabase as VDatabase. > > However, when I make the call from the opening of the > application to construct the database, I get an error of > "This method or property does not exist." > > This sort of approach was not a problem in V4RB1 and RB5.5. > What needs to be done for the App to recognize a method > inside of a V4RB2 object? > > The call is this.... > > mDatabase.CreateStructure() //CreateStructure is the method > inside of the mDatabase class object. > > Regards, > > Chuck Hi Chuck, One thing that is different with V4RB2 is you must call Vdatabase in the constructor of your subclass. From an earlier Ruslan e-mail... MyDatabase( inStorageType as Integer = 0 ) // This constructor is for LOCAL database. // We call parent class Vdatabase. Vdatabase( inStorageType ) ... Your old code End I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but would be the first thing I would check. Good luck, -John From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 19 11:40:09 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 19 12:40:15 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Sims, John wrote: > One thing that is different with V4RB2 is you must call Vdatabase > in the > constructor of your subclass. From an earlier Ruslan e-mail... > > MyDatabase( inStorageType as Integer = 0 ) > // This constructor is for LOCAL database. > > // We call parent class Vdatabase. > Vdatabase( inStorageType ) > > ... Your old code > > End > > I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but would be the first > thing > I would check. I'm not seeing any such code?Vdatabase( inStorageType )?in the tutorial for V4RB2. Where is it supposed to be put? Regards, Chuck From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 19 11:41:27 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 19 12:41:31 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <83C7343F-ECCA-4DAC-9F13-10388AB1887F@pcisys.net> P.S. Ruslan....as I've commented before....WE NEED BETTER TUTORIALS. On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Chuck Pelto wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Sims, John wrote: > >> One thing that is different with V4RB2 is you must call Vdatabase >> in the >> constructor of your subclass. From an earlier Ruslan e-mail... >> >> MyDatabase( inStorageType as Integer = 0 ) >> // This constructor is for LOCAL database. >> >> // We call parent class Vdatabase. >> Vdatabase( inStorageType ) >> >> ... Your old code >> >> End >> >> I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but would be the first >> thing >> I would check. > > I'm not seeing any such code?Vdatabase( inStorageType )?in the > tutorial for V4RB2. > > Where is it supposed to be put? > > Regards, > > Chuck From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Wed Oct 19 11:58:27 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Wed Oct 19 12:58:36 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: <83C7343F-ECCA-4DAC-9F13-10388AB1887F@pcisys.net> References: <83C7343F-ECCA-4DAC-9F13-10388AB1887F@pcisys.net> Message-ID: Hi Chuck, Can you run the V4RB2 examples? Let's see if this is an install issue. Best regards, Frank Schima On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Chuck Pelto wrote: > P.S. Ruslan....as I've commented before....WE NEED BETTER TUTORIALS. > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Chuck Pelto wrote: > > >> >> On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Sims, John wrote: >> >> >>> One thing that is different with V4RB2 is you must call Vdatabase >>> in the >>> constructor of your subclass. From an earlier Ruslan e-mail... >>> >>> MyDatabase( inStorageType as Integer = 0 ) >>> // This constructor is for LOCAL database. >>> >>> // We call parent class Vdatabase. >>> Vdatabase( inStorageType ) >>> >>> ... Your old code >>> >>> End >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is your problem or not but would be the >>> first thing >>> I would check. >>> >> >> I'm not seeing any such code?Vdatabase( inStorageType )?in the >> tutorial for V4RB2. >> >> Where is it supposed to be put? From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 19 13:08:57 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 19 14:09:02 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: <83C7343F-ECCA-4DAC-9F13-10388AB1887F@pcisys.net> Message-ID: <412A4E38-E424-4C73-9804-D3537626624C@pcisys.net> On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Frank Schima wrote: > Can you run the V4RB2 examples? Let's see if this is an install issue. Those run. However, those do not have the CreateStructures as part of the class objects. Ruslan's doing that in the Windows. I don't care for that approach. I prefer to do the contructs of the databases in the databases. This worked in V4RB1 with RB5.5. Regards, Chuck From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 19 22:23:40 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 19 14:23:55 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: <412A4E38-E424-4C73-9804-D3537626624C@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/19/05 10:08 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Frank Schima wrote: > >> Can you run the V4RB2 examples? Let's see if this is an install issue. > > Those run. However, those do not have the CreateStructures as part of > the class objects. Ruslan's doing that in the Windows. I don't care > for that approach. I prefer to do the contructs of the databases in > the databases. This worked in V4RB1 with RB5.5. May be you have not specify new REQURED code in the myDaatbase constructor? Please check our Class_way examples on this point. You MUST now call from your constructor the parent constructor -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 19 22:24:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 19 14:24:39 2005 Subject: Convert 2.x back to 1.x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/19/05 5:22 PM, "Aart Jan van der Linden" wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having some difficulty converting my database from 2.x to 1.x, In fact THIS IS NOT SUPPORTED. > probably mainly because some records contain newline characters. The > dump to xml crashes VStudio on import, opening the sql and pasting it in > the SQL input the dump to SQL runs fine, but gives some errors, > resulting in an incomplete database. > > Any thoughts? I think only safe way for you Export each table as ASCII -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 19 13:32:35 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 19 14:32:40 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D974703-856C-4A64-AB95-6EC586EC8BB1@pcisys.net> On Oct 19, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > May be you have not specify new REQURED code in the > > myDaatbase constructor? > > Please check our Class_way examples on this point. > You MUST now call from your constructor the parent constructor Which example are you thinking of? I'm looking at the API version, via Link_Binary. It's hard to follow. Again, I call for better TUTORIALS. Regards, Chuck From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 20 00:38:58 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 19 16:39:10 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: <5D974703-856C-4A64-AB95-6EC586EC8BB1@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/19/05 10:32 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> May be you have not specify new REQURED code in the >> >> myDaatbase constructor? >> >> Please check our Class_way examples on this point. >> You MUST now call from your constructor the parent constructor > > Which example are you thinking of? I'm looking at the API version, > via Link_Binary. It's hard to follow. Are you using Classes? It seems Yes. Then you need check examples in folder: V4RB_2/Examples/Class_way -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 19 18:10:59 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 19 17:11:07 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] VDatabase.Dump problem Message-ID: I'm attempting to dump a remote database to a local file and it's failing with File Manager error -47. Is this a mistake on my part, or a V4Rb problem? -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 20 09:47:39 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 20 01:48:05 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] VDatabase.Dump problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/20/05 1:10 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > I'm attempting to dump a remote database to a local file and it's > failing with File Manager error -47. Is this a mistake on my part, or > a V4Rb problem? This not works Charles (at least yet) You need dump to SERVER computer. So send path valid for server -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cbpelto at pcisys.net Thu Oct 20 09:55:53 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Thu Oct 20 10:55:58 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, That's VERY interesting. However, I don't recall seeing that in the Tutorial provided with V4RB2. Or did I miss it? Regards, Chuck Pelto On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/19/05 10:32 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > > >> >> On Oct 19, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >> >>> May be you have not specify new REQURED code in the >>> >>> myDaatbase constructor? >>> >>> Please check our Class_way examples on this point. >>> You MUST now call from your constructor the parent constructor >>> >> >> Which example are you thinking of? I'm looking at the API version, >> via Link_Binary. It's hard to follow. >> > > Are you using Classes? > > It seems Yes. > > Then you need check examples in folder: > > V4RB_2/Examples/Class_way > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Oct 20 12:12:46 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Oct 20 11:12:54 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] VDatabase.Dump problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 20, 2005, at 2:47 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/20/05 1:10 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> I'm attempting to dump a remote database to a local file and it's >> failing with File Manager error -47. Is this a mistake on my part, or >> a V4Rb problem? > > This not works Charles (at least yet) > > You need dump to SERVER computer. > So send path valid for server I need to dump to a CLIENT computer. Is this likely to be implemented in 2.0.5? If not, I'll just write my own for now. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 20 21:01:27 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 20 13:01:42 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] VDatabase.Dump problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/20/05 7:12 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2005, at 2:47 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 10/20/05 1:10 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> >>> I'm attempting to dump a remote database to a local file and it's >>> failing with File Manager error -47. Is this a mistake on my part, or >>> a V4Rb problem? >> >> This not works Charles (at least yet) >> >> You need dump to SERVER computer. >> So send path valid for server > > I need to dump to a CLIENT computer. Is this likely to be implemented > in 2.0.5? If not, I'll just write my own for now. Yes we going implement this... Right Ivan? Let's try together write specification of this. Charles, you can add your vision, API and so on here: http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:doc umentation:en:vclient:behavior_of_dump -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 20 21:02:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 20 13:02:33 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/20/05 6:55 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > That's VERY interesting. However, I don't recall seeing that in the > Tutorial provided with V4RB2. Or did I miss it? Hi Chuck, There is no Tutorial for Class way yet -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 20 21:20:24 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Thu Oct 20 13:20:25 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] VDatabase.Dump problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1536891543.20051020212024@public.kherson.ua> Hello Ruslan, Thursday, October 20, 2005, 9:01:27 PM, you wrote: RZ> On 10/20/05 7:12 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> >> On Oct 20, 2005, at 2:47 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> On 10/20/05 1:10 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> >>>> I'm attempting to dump a remote database to a local file and it's >>>> failing with File Manager error -47. Is this a mistake on my part, or >>>> a V4Rb problem? >>> >>> This not works Charles (at least yet) >>> >>> You need dump to SERVER computer. >>> So send path valid for server >> >> I need to dump to a CLIENT computer. Is this likely to be implemented >> in 2.0.5? If not, I'll just write my own for now. RZ> Yes we going implement this... RZ> Right Ivan? I think this is possible. But on the other hand such an ability seems to be useful for administration purpose only. So there is no necessity to implement it on protocol. Should be discussed a lot. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua From erikmh at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 17:52:23 2005 From: erikmh at gmail.com (Erik Mueller-Harder) Date: Thu Oct 20 16:52:27 2005 Subject: Upgrade Now to VDN Platform and Save Up to $200 In-Reply-To: <20051013172912.D50F31502F@skewer.dreamhost.com> References: <20051013172912.D50F31502F@skewer.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: On 10/13/05, Lynn Fredricks wrote: > Hello all, > > This special offer went out last week, but its very clear many developers > have changed their email addresses, especially developers who bought V4RB > 1.x years ago, so we've extended it to the 20th. > > [snip] I'd like to do this, but there doesn't seem yet to be a way to enter data securely at the Valentina store -- it's all http; no https. I wrote about this several months ago. Are people just blithely entering their contact information and credit cards via unsecure http? Or am I missing something? Many thanks, -- Erik From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Oct 20 18:25:16 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Oct 20 18:25:50 2005 Subject: Studio 1.1 Download? In-Reply-To: <20051018202057.59F093AAFC7@edison.macserve.net> References: <20051018202057.59F093AAFC7@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <3EF69B13-1AD1-4997-9593-CC4665427CEA@everestkc.net> I got an old 1.1 database from a client the other day. The current version of VStudio crashes when trying to open it. Is there a download link for the old 1.x version of Studio? Thanks, Bob Keeney From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 21 09:25:00 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 21 01:25:17 2005 Subject: Studio 1.1 Download? In-Reply-To: <3EF69B13-1AD1-4997-9593-CC4665427CEA@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 10/21/05 2:25 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: > I got an old 1.1 database from a client the other day. The current > version of VStudio crashes when trying to open it. > > Is there a download link for the old 1.x version of Studio? Do you use b16 vstudio ? You still can use VAPP 1.11 on mac -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From j.peters at valentina-db.de Fri Oct 21 08:53:47 2005 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Fri Oct 21 01:53:58 2005 Subject: Studio 1.1 Download? In-Reply-To: References: <3EF69B13-1AD1-4997-9593-CC4665427CEA@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <26805.62.154.199.179.1129877627.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Bob, >> I got an old 1.1 database from a client the other day. The current >> version of VStudio crashes when trying to open it. >> >> Is there a download link for the old 1.x version of Studio? No - and i guess this wont help because the code for opening V1 databases is still the same. I can open V1 databases without problems with the current (b16) vStudio. You can try to open it with VAPP if you have a Mac - if this helps then please send me the db so that i can try to fix that in vStudio. But maybe the db is somehow corrupted? -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH -------------------------- http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Fri Oct 21 09:59:35 2005 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Fri Oct 21 02:59:47 2005 Subject: [ANN] Valentina Studio 2.0b16 available Message-ID: <28294.62.154.199.179.1129881575.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi all, we have uploaded new Valentina Studio Versions to http://www.paradigmasoft.com and http://www.valentina-db.de It's the version 2.0 b16 for Mac OS X and Windows. This is the last 2.0 beta version. We are working now on the first 2.1 release version. This release contains the latest kernel and client fixes along with several improvements of the overall stability. We have improved the DataBrowser on Mac and Windows - for example you can now set a font for displaying of data in the preference dialog. Import and Export is now greatly improved for V2 databases. You can still do a simple export for V1 databases - imports into V1 databases are not supported anymore. We have also implemented Dump for V2 databases - it is still possible to do a limited dump of V1 databases. Please note that all new features will be for V2 databases in future - so please consider switching to V2 if possible. This is the changelog for b16: VStudio - 2.0 b16 ================= - 0000879: [Layout] redraw problem during minimize/maximize (Jochen Peters) - 0000409: [VServer connection] vStudio cannot reconnect to vServer after vStudio quits with open vServer DBs (Jochen Peters) - 0000877: [Dialogs] Improper elements positioning withing 'Add new record' dialog on WinXP. (Jochen Peters) - 0000980: [Dialogs] Edit Record dialog fields are drawn on top of one another when opened (Jochen Peters) - 0000606: [Table Browser] Splitting a window should be more user friendly (Jochen Peters) - 0000983: [Application Menu] Selecting Export menu item does nothing (Igor Nikitin) - 0001069: [Dialogs] Change initional path in the dialog Create database to desktop. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001070: [Application Menu] Automaticaly set flag "put all files into a single directory". (Igor Nikitin) - 0000956: [Import/Export] crash when 'other' is selected for row delimiter in import wizard (Igor Nikitin) - 0000882: [Feature] export few fields only (not the entire table) (Igor Nikitin) - 0001082: [Application Menu] Connect dialog has wrong standard buttons (Jochen Peters) - 0001080: [Structure Browser] Mac Version crashes during adding of V2 tables or fields (Jochen Peters) - 0001081: [Table Browser] Font for TableBrowser set by preference dialog (Jochen Peters) - 0001068: [Dialogs] Improve database register dialog. (Igor Nikitin) Please report any bugs to our bug tracker system. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH -------------------------- http://www.valentina-db.de From cbpelto at pcisys.net Fri Oct 21 10:11:16 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Fri Oct 21 11:11:21 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01F3B7DC-6CD8-43CA-AFAB-C5ED43EBA01B@pcisys.net> On Oct 20, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > There is no Tutorial for Class way yet This brings up an interesting questions. As we all know, there are advantages and disadvantages to any course of action one can take. This includes the development of a database structure. Is there anyone or anything anywhere which describes the advantages and disadvantages to whichever 'way' ones decide to build a database using this multitude of ways you've created with Valentina2? I'm particularly interested in the differences between the CLASS way and the API way. Regards, Chuck Pelto From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 21 19:33:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 21 11:33:43 2005 Subject: V4RB2 & Methods in RB2005 In-Reply-To: <01F3B7DC-6CD8-43CA-AFAB-C5ED43EBA01B@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/21/05 7:11 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > On Oct 20, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: Hi Chuck, >> There is no Tutorial for Class way yet > > This brings up an interesting questions. > > As we all know, there are advantages and disadvantages to any course > of action one can take. This includes the development of a database > structure. > > Is there anyone or anything anywhere which describes the advantages > and disadvantages to whichever 'way' ones decide to build a database > using this multitude of ways you've created with Valentina2? > > I'm particularly interested in the differences between the CLASS way > and the API way. I believe this was discussed several times on list. So you can try search. In short: ----------------------------- Classes way = Static way this way CAN be used only if you have stable db structure. i.e. Several tables and fields. Advantage: in fact this is the same API way, just you have structure of db reflected in the structure of classes. This give -- OO way of work with db -- faster access to objects, because they are already exist as named pointers Disadvantage: -- harder change of db structure (hey! You have promise that will be static structure :-) ----------------------------- API way = Dynamic way must be used by apps like DBMS, i.e. Valentina Studio, viSQL,.. when app do not know which db it opens. In this case you just cannot have classes. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp Sun Oct 23 14:41:08 2005 From: rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp (ron barber) Date: Mon Oct 24 10:45:12 2005 Subject: [ANN] Valentina Studio 2.0b16 available In-Reply-To: <28294.62.154.199.179.1129881575.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> References: <28294.62.154.199.179.1129881575.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: Hi Jochen I was pleased to see this new release and note that it opens on OS X 10.3.9 - panther. However, when I tried to make a new db, it crashes with the following report: OS Version: 10.3.9 (Build 7W98) Report Version: 2 Command: Valentina Studio Path: /Users/reb/Desktop/Valentina Studio.app/Contents/MacOS/Valentina Studio Version: 2.0 (2.0b16) PID: 2979 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 V2.bundle 0x05322d94 vsV2_Database::vsV2_Database[in-charge](vs_I_AppCtrl*, vs_I_Connection*, bool) + 0x1cc 1 V2.bundle 0x05329170 vsV2_EmbeddedConnection::CreateDatabase(wxString const&, long, long, long) + 0x40 2 V2.bundle 0x05328388 vsV2_EmbeddedConnection::CreateDatabaseDialog() + 0x40c 3 Admin.bundle 0x0175ae18 vsAdminCommand::DoNewDatabase() + 0x40 4 libwx_mac.dylib 0x017fee74 wxCommandProcessor::Submit(wxCommand*, bool) + 0x34 5 ...digmasoft.valentina.vstudio 0x00035794 vsFrame::OnNewWithFactory(wxCommandEvent&) + 0x124 etc etc Do you need more info? Thanks Ron On Oct 21, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Jochen Peters wrote: > Hi all, > > we have uploaded new Valentina Studio Versions to > http://www.paradigmasoft.com and > http://www.valentina-db.de > > It's the version 2.0 b16 for Mac OS X and Windows. > This is the last 2.0 beta version. We are working now on the > first 2.1 release version. > > This release contains the latest kernel and client fixes along with > several > improvements of the overall stability. > We have improved the DataBrowser on Mac and Windows - for example you > can now > set a font for displaying of data in the preference dialog. > > Import and Export is now greatly improved for V2 databases. You can > still > do a > simple export for V1 databases - imports into V1 databases are not > supported anymore. > We have also implemented Dump for V2 databases - it is still possible > to do > a limited dump of V1 databases. > Please note that all new features will be for V2 databases in future - > so > please > consider switching to V2 if possible. > > This is the changelog for b16: > > VStudio - 2.0 b16 > ================= > - 0000879: [Layout] redraw problem during minimize/maximize (Jochen > Peters) > - 0000409: [VServer connection] vStudio cannot reconnect to vServer > after > vStudio quits with open vServer DBs (Jochen Peters) > - 0000877: [Dialogs] Improper elements positioning withing 'Add new > record' dialog on WinXP. (Jochen Peters) > - 0000980: [Dialogs] Edit Record dialog fields are drawn on top of one > another when opened (Jochen Peters) > - 0000606: [Table Browser] Splitting a window should be more user > friendly > (Jochen Peters) > - 0000983: [Application Menu] Selecting Export menu item does nothing > (Igor Nikitin) > - 0001069: [Dialogs] Change initional path in the dialog Create > database > to desktop. (Igor Nikitin) > - 0001070: [Application Menu] Automaticaly set flag "put all files > into a > single directory". (Igor Nikitin) > - 0000956: [Import/Export] crash when 'other' is selected for row > delimiter in import wizard (Igor Nikitin) > - 0000882: [Feature] export few fields only (not the entire table) > (Igor > Nikitin) > - 0001082: [Application Menu] Connect dialog has wrong standard buttons > (Jochen Peters) > - 0001080: [Structure Browser] Mac Version crashes during adding of V2 > tables or fields (Jochen Peters) > - 0001081: [Table Browser] Font for TableBrowser set by preference > dialog > (Jochen Peters) > - 0001068: [Dialogs] Improve database register dialog. (Igor Nikitin) > > Please report any bugs to our bug tracker system. > > -- > Best regards, > Jochen Peters > PIIT GmbH > > -------------------------- > http://www.valentina-db.de > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From heinrichruoff at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 20:10:23 2005 From: heinrichruoff at gmail.com (Heinrich Ruoff) Date: Mon Oct 24 10:45:36 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Trevor, did you already test it on Win98? Any success? Heinrich On 10/19/05, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > On 10/18/05 11:20 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > > > Ruslan, > > > > So is the official word that a Valentina 2 singer-user database will > > NOT be supported on Win98 or are you still trying to make it work on > > Win 98? I still support Win 98 as well so I am going to have to find > > another solution if there are no plans to support Win 98. > > Hi Trevor, > > I recommend you tests it on win98. > > Problem was that on our side it have work. On side of tester no. > We was not able reproduce problem on our side. > > Actually there is no visible reason why it should not work there.. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Oct 24 09:45:06 2005 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Oct 24 11:45:11 2005 Subject: Error 460035 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FBEC416-F2EE-4F21-8D32-884AB92FA1E4@mangomultimedia.com> On Oct 24, 2005, at 12:10 AM, Heinrich Ruoff wrote: > Hi Trevor, > > did you already test it on Win98? > Any success? I haven't had a chance to test yet. I am hoping to get around to it this week though. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 13:04:34 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 07:04:46 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC Message-ID: <435E1F52.6000206@mook.co.uk> Hi, I'm creating a Mac/PC hybrid CD using Director, which is having problems querying a Valentina database. If I create and populate the database on a Mac, the Mac can subsequently open and search the database OK. However, when I then try to query the database on a PC, the database can be opened OK, but searches always return no results. The same thing happens in reverse when creating and populating the database on a PC. So, as it stands I can only query the database on a the platform that created the database. Any idea what is going wrong here? I had a shared, cross-platform database last year using Valentina 1.x which ran OK, so I'm not sure what is different in this version. Regards, Mil. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 15:10:20 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 07:10:34 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E1F52.6000206@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 3:04 PM, "Milan" wrote: Hi Milan, > I'm creating a Mac/PC hybrid CD using Director, which is having problems > querying a Valentina database. > If I create and populate the database on > a Mac, the Mac can subsequently open and search the database OK. > However, when I then try to query the database on a PC, the database can > be opened OK, but searches always return no results. The same thing > happens in reverse when creating and populating the database on a PC. > So, as it stands I can only query the database on a the platform that > created the database. > Any idea what is going wrong here? > I had a shared, cross-platform database last year using Valentina 1.x which > ran OK, so I'm not sure what is different in this version. In what version Milan ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 13:17:51 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 07:18:09 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E226F.7080403@mook.co.uk> Hi, I'm using 2.0.5. Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 3:04 PM, "Milan" wrote: > >Hi Milan, > > > >>I'm creating a Mac/PC hybrid CD using Director, which is having problems >>querying a Valentina database. >> >> > > > >>If I create and populate the database on >>a Mac, the Mac can subsequently open and search the database OK. >> >> > > > >>However, when I then try to query the database on a PC, the database can >>be opened OK, but searches always return no results. The same thing >>happens in reverse when creating and populating the database on a PC. >> >> > > > >>So, as it stands I can only query the database on a the platform that >>created the database. >> >> > > > >>Any idea what is going wrong here? >> >> > > > >>I had a shared, cross-platform database last year using Valentina 1.x which >>ran OK, so I'm not sure what is different in this version. >> >> > >In what version Milan ? > > > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From Claudius at sailer-online.de Tue Oct 25 14:48:18 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Tue Oct 25 07:48:30 2005 Subject: next V4RB2-Version Message-ID: Hello, when will we see next V4RB2-Version which fixes #1088 and #641 it would be nice to know because I want to make after a long long time a new Beta-Version for my customers and after a Beta-Phase a new final version. But at the moment I am standing still until I can offer comparable functionality to my users. bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2005r4/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 15:51:09 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 07:51:17 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E226F.7080403@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 3:17 PM, "Milan" wrote: 2.0.5 ok. >>> I'm creating a Mac/PC hybrid CD using Director, which is having problems >>> querying a Valentina database. >> >>> If I create and populate the database on >>> a Mac, the Mac can subsequently open and search the database OK. >> >>> However, when I then try to query the database on a PC, the database can >>> be opened OK, but searches always return no results. The same thing >>> happens in reverse when creating and populating the database on a PC. >> >>> So, as it stands I can only query the database on a the platform that >>> created the database. * Before put files on CD try set ReadOnly flag. * do you specify fIndexed for fields ? Frankly saying not enough info. Does it return any error code if result is nil ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 14:09:22 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 08:09:32 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E2E82.4080902@mook.co.uk> OK.... I've downloaded and resintalled the xtra on both platforms, and I now have the following issue on the PC: When running the example file Method_Create.dir, the following code gives me a "Script error: object expected" error message: person.createStringField("fld_long",8) This worked with the xtra file from August (2.0.4 I think). Why would this command fail? Surely the examples should work OK? Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 3:17 PM, "Milan" wrote: > >2.0.5 ok. > > > >>>>I'm creating a Mac/PC hybrid CD using Director, which is having problems >>>>querying a Valentina database. >>>> >>>> >>>>If I create and populate the database on >>>>a Mac, the Mac can subsequently open and search the database OK. >>>> >>>> >>>>However, when I then try to query the database on a PC, the database can >>>>be opened OK, but searches always return no results. The same thing >>>>happens in reverse when creating and populating the database on a PC. >>>> >>>> >>>>So, as it stands I can only query the database on a the platform that >>>>created the database. >>>> >>>> > >* Before put files on CD try set ReadOnly flag. > >* do you specify fIndexed for fields ? > >Frankly saying not enough info. >Does it return any error code if result is nil ? > > > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 16:41:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 08:42:09 2005 Subject: next V4RB2-Version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/25/05 3:48 PM, "Claudius Sailer" wrote: > Hello, > > when will we see next V4RB2-Version which fixes > > #1088 and > #641 > > it would be nice to know because I want to make after a long long > time a new Beta-Version for my customers and after a Beta-Phase a new > final version. But at the moment I am standing still until I can > offer comparable functionality to my users. Hi Claudius, Today we are finishing with Ivan last step of very big refactoring that we do last 3 weeks in engine. Purpose of this was -- prepare engine for C++ ADK publishing. We was need cleanup room. Let's hope today or tomorrow we will resolve last issue we have found this Sunday with Vclient. And then we will introduce VPHP and C++ ADK betas. And we will start fix bugs found in last few weeks. As I see about 10 bugs found. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 16:42:38 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 08:42:50 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E2E82.4080902@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 4:09 PM, "Milan" wrote: > OK.... I've downloaded and resintalled the xtra on both platforms, and I > now have the following issue on the PC: > > When running the example file Method_Create.dir, the following code > gives me a "Script error: object expected" error message: > > person.createStringField("fld_long",8) > > This worked with the xtra file from August (2.0.4 I think). > > Why would this command fail? Surely the examples should work OK? May be you have mess old and current versions ? Please double check your HDD -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 15:16:58 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:17:08 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E3E5A.6030103@mook.co.uk> I deleted all traces of the Valentina Xtra, downloaded the latest release from the site, and I still receive the same error. I'm at my wits end here - what on earth can be wrong with this? Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 4:09 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > > May be you have mess old and current versions ? > >Please double check your HDD > From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 15:19:07 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:19:19 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E3EDB.1040408@mook.co.uk> To elaborate - upon downloading and installing, I am copying the Xtra from the c:\program files\macromedia\V4MD_2 directory to the Director MX 2004 Xtras directory. The Xtra does run, but in the aforementioned sample the following line breaks: person.createLongField("fld_long") I've tried a number of different field creation methods, and they all result in the same error. > >May be you have mess old and current versions ? > >Please double check your HDD > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 17:43:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:43:34 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E3EDB.1040408@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 5:19 PM, "Milan" wrote: > To elaborate - upon downloading and installing, I am copying the Xtra from the > c:\program files\macromedia\V4MD_2 directory to the Director MX 2004 Xtras > directory. Right. Actually you can select Xtra directory in installer. > The Xtra does run, but in the aforementioned sample the following > line breaks: > > person.createLongField("fld_long") What exactly example you try to run ? Strange, because after 2.0.5 release was developers that confirm it work as on PS co on MAC. > I've tried a number of different field creation methods, and they all result > in the same error. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 17:48:24 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:48:33 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E3EDB.1040408@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 5:19 PM, "Milan" wrote: > To elaborate - upon downloading and installing, I am copying the Xtra from the > c:\program files\macromedia\V4MD_2 directory to the Director MX 2004 Xtras > directory. The Xtra does run, but in the aforementioned sample the following > line breaks: > > person.createLongField("fld_long") > > I've tried a number of different field creation methods, and they all result > in the same error. I have install 2.0.5 to PC, Run APi_way/Records_AddDeleteUpdate example. It works -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 15:52:04 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:52:21 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E4694.9060700@mook.co.uk> When I run that example I get another script runtime error at the command: personTable.createBooleanField("fld_bool") It seems that any field creation commands are failing for me. Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 5:19 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > > >>To elaborate - upon downloading and installing, I am copying the Xtra from the >>c:\program files\macromedia\V4MD_2 directory to the Director MX 2004 Xtras >>directory. The Xtra does run, but in the aforementioned sample the following >>line breaks: >> >>person.createLongField("fld_long") >> >>I've tried a number of different field creation methods, and they all result >>in the same error. >> >> > >I have install 2.0.5 to PC, >Run APi_way/Records_AddDeleteUpdate example. > >It works > > > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 17:56:04 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 09:56:12 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E4694.9060700@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 5:52 PM, "Milan" wrote: > When I run that example I get another script runtime error at the command: > > personTable.createBooleanField("fld_bool") I think in debugger you can see personTAble = VOID. > It seems that any field creation commands are failing for me. So Xtra is recognized ? in the menu you can see Vdatabase, VTAble, Vfield, ... Classes? Does example folder have V4MD_Log.txt file ? Check its contents please. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 16:14:56 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:15:12 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E4BF0.3030205@mook.co.uk> >I think in debugger you can see personTAble = VOID. Yes, it is void. >So Xtra is recognized ? Yes. > in the menu you can see Vdatabase, VTAble, Vfield, ... Classes? Yes, they're all there. >Does example folder have V4MD_Log.txt file ? >Check its contents please. The file has not been created unfortunately. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 18:25:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:25:55 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E4BF0.3030205@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 6:14 PM, "Milan" wrote: >> I think in debugger you can see personTAble = VOID. > > Yes, it is void. > >> So Xtra is recognized ? > > Yes. > >> in the menu you can see Vdatabase, VTAble, Vfield, ... Classes? > > Yes, they're all there. > >> Does example folder have V4MD_Log.txt file ? >> Check its contents please. > > The file has not been created unfortunately. Very strange. Then try to find in example Valentina.Init Valentina.DebugLevel = #kLogParams Step this code. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 16:50:06 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:50:18 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E542E.8060202@mook.co.uk> Do you have archived versions of the 2.0.4 installer for the PC? I've tried everything you've suggested and it's still not running. Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 6:14 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > > >>>I think in debugger you can see personTAble = VOID. >>> >>> >>Yes, it is void. >> >> >> >>>So Xtra is recognized ? >>> >>> >>Yes. >> >> >> >>> in the menu you can see Vdatabase, VTAble, Vfield, ... Classes? >>> >>> >>Yes, they're all there. >> >> >> >>>Does example folder have V4MD_Log.txt file ? >>>Check its contents please. >>> >>> >>The file has not been created unfortunately. >> >> > >Very strange. > >Then try to find in example > > Valentina.Init > > Valentina.DebugLevel = #kLogParams > >Step this code. > > > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 16:53:42 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 10:53:56 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E542E.8060202@mook.co.uk> References: <435E542E.8060202@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: <435E5506.700@mook.co.uk> I've managed to find an old version of the Xtra dated 30th August 2005, and this version works OK with the demos. However, any files I create with this version aren't compatible with the Mac version (latest, dated 12th October). Milan wrote: > > Do you have archived versions of the 2.0.4 installer for the PC? I've > tried everything you've suggested and it's still not running. > > Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 10/25/05 6:14 PM, "Milan" wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I think in debugger you can see personTAble = VOID. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, it is void. >>> >>> >>> >>>> So Xtra is recognized ? >>>> >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> >>> >>>> in the menu you can see Vdatabase, VTAble, Vfield, ... Classes? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, they're all there. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Does example folder have V4MD_Log.txt file ? >>>> Check its contents please. >>>> >>> >>> The file has not been created unfortunately. >>> >> >> >> Very strange. >> >> Then try to find in example >> >> Valentina.Init >> >> Valentina.DebugLevel = #kLogParams >> >> Step this code. >> >> >> >> > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 19:18:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 11:18:28 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E542E.8060202@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 6:50 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > Do you have archived versions of the 2.0.4 installer for the PC? I've > tried everything you've suggested and it's still not running. Do you have only one PC ? * Can you try another one ? Oh! Idea. Please check next point. Open example, go to ValentinaGlobals external. Here find gClient = false Make sure that it is FALSE but not true. May be you try run examples in the CLIENT mode. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From delong at redcort.com Tue Oct 25 10:12:09 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Tue Oct 25 12:12:15 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable Message-ID: I have a corrupted 1.11 db (-39) that I can dump as an XML file using Valentina 1.11. When I select LoadDump, Valentina will not allow me to select the XML file. I've beenunable to discover the type/creator that Valentina needs for me to select the xml file. It's been a while but LoadDump is giving me fits... why is this happening? Keith DeLong OS X.4.2 Valentina 1.11 carbon From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 18:36:42 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 12:36:56 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E6D2A.2060605@mook.co.uk> Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >Do you have only one PC ? > >* Can you try another one ? > > I'll try another machine to see if that helps. >Oh! Idea. > >Please check next point. > >Open example, go to ValentinaGlobals external. >Here find > > gClient = false > >Make sure that it is FALSE but not true. > gClient is set to FALSE. I've tried changing it to TRUE for testing purposes, but doing so made no difference. From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 18:39:51 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 12:40:06 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435E6DE7.9050106@mook.co.uk> To shed more light on the issue: 1. If I use version 2.0.4 (on a PC), I can successfully create and access databases on the same platform. However, on the Mac, running version 2.0.5, querying databases created with 2.0.4 on the PC fail. 2. If I use version 2.0.5 (again, on a PC), the examples fail to run, and I am unable to query any Valentina database. Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 10/25/05 6:50 PM, "Milan" wrote: > > > >>Do you have archived versions of the 2.0.4 installer for the PC? I've >>tried everything you've suggested and it's still not running. >> >> > >Do you have only one PC ? > >* Can you try another one ? > >Oh! Idea. > >Please check next point. > >Open example, go to ValentinaGlobals external. >Here find > > gClient = false > >Make sure that it is FALSE but not true. > >May be you try run examples in the CLIENT mode. > > > > -- Milan Hawkins Mook a. Tuscany Wharf, 4a Orsman Road, London N1 5QJ e. milan@mook.co.uk w. www.mook.co.uk t. 020 7749 2525 f. 020 7749 2526 What's new at Mook? * Ground breaking video news campaign launches for Reuters.co.uk * Pan-european PlayStation campaign goes live at http://www.wrcrallyevolved.com * http://www.everydaysport.com goes nationwide for Sport England. Start your diary now! * Mook and Cogent Elliot add flavour to http://www.fortnumandmason.com * http://www.thesite.org shortlisted for NMA Effectiveness Award. * Marketing magazine names Mook 'Top 100 new media agency'. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 21:11:20 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 13:13:36 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/25/05 8:12 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: Hi Keith, > I have a corrupted 1.11 db (-39) that I can dump as an XML file using > Valentina 1.11. > > When I select LoadDump, Valentina will not allow me to select the XML file. > I've beenunable to discover the type/creator that Valentina needs for me to > select the xml file. > > It's been a while but LoadDump is giving me fits... why is this happening? So question is why file is dimmed? Probably because it has wrong type/creator. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From milan at mook.co.uk Tue Oct 25 19:22:40 2005 From: milan at mook.co.uk (Milan) Date: Tue Oct 25 13:22:50 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E6D2A.2060605@mook.co.uk> References: <435E6D2A.2060605@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: <435E77F0.2020509@mook.co.uk> OK, I've installed on another PC, and, weirdly, it works OK! Could there be some leftover DLL files somewhere from an old install on the other machine (the one it still won't work on)? I feel like I am making progress, but crucially, I'm still hitting my original problem. On the PC that is running the Xtra OK, I can create and access a database, but if I then try and query the database on the Mac it doesn't work, and I don't receive any errors. The same situation works in reverse - if I create and access the database on a Mac it works OK, but if I then try to query the database on a PC it comes back with no search results. Are the Valentina database files stored in a format that would cause cross-platform issues? mil. From cbpelto at pcisys.net Tue Oct 25 12:22:43 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Tue Oct 25 13:22:55 2005 Subject: Valentina Studio Purchasing Problem Message-ID: <735763E6-F605-45AB-BFBA-F7E0B3EB9ED7@pcisys.net> Tried to buy VS. Web-site process is malfunctioning. Do Billing Information. Then do Shipping Information. Then, the system brings me back to a blank Billing Information form. What's to be done to correct this? Regards, Chuck Pelto From delong at redcort.com Tue Oct 25 11:38:12 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Tue Oct 25 13:38:19 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> I have a corrupted 1.11 db (-39) that I can dump as an XML file using >> Valentina 1.11. >> >> When I select LoadDump, Valentina will not allow me to select the XML file. >> I've beenunable to discover the type/creator that Valentina needs for me to >> select the xml file. >> >> It's been a while but LoadDump is giving me fits... why is this happening? Hi Ruslan, > So question is why file is dimmed? Since this file was dumped by Valentina 1.11, shouldn't it be set properly when Valentina created it? > Probably because it has wrong type/creator. Dump creates a file with creator = ????, Type = TEXT, Extension = xml File is dimmed on LoadDump dialog... what is the proper type/creator for xml dump files? I tried to use Valentina Studio 2.0b16 and it crashes on launch :-( Date/Time: 2005-10-25 11:35:36.566 -0700 OS Version: 10.4.2 (Build 8C46) Report Version: 3 Command: Valentina Studio Path: /Applications/??Dev Tools/Valentina/Valentina Studio b16.app/Contents/MacOS/Valentina Studio Parent: WindowServer [60] Version: 2.0 (2.0b16) PID: 462 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000003c Thread 0 Crashed: 0 <<00000000>> 0x011f8994 0 + 18844052 1 <<00000000>> 0x0126f204 0 + 19329540 2 <<00000000>> 0x00039d48 0 + 236872 3 <<00000000>> 0x000301c8 0 + 197064 4 <<00000000>> 0x012b2c60 0 + 19606624 5 <<00000000>> 0x0002e7b0 0 + 190384 6 <<00000000>> 0x00008130 0 + 33072 7 <<00000000>> 0x00007fd4 0 + 32724 Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64: srr0: 0x00000000011f8994 srr1: 0x000000000200f030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000 cr: 0x42000442 xer: 0x0000000000000004 lr: 0x00000000011f8984 ctr: 0x000000000126f1e0 r0: 0x000000000126f204 r1: 0x00000000bffff820 r2: 0x0000000042000442 r3: 0x0000000000000000 r4: 0x00000000006aa3b0 r5: 0x00000000bffff7b4 r6: 0x00000000006a6e76 r7: 0x000000000000aa9d r8: 0x0000000000000001 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x000000000126f848 r11: 0x000000008fe519e0 r12: 0x000000000126f1e0 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x0000000000000000 r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000 r20: 0x00000000bffffaf0 r21: 0x0000000000000001 r22: 0x000000000065ea40 r23: 0x0000000002014800 r24: 0x0000000000661100 r25: 0x00000000006278f0 r26: 0x00000000bffff944 r27: 0x0000000000000000 r28: 0x00000000006aa3b0 r29: 0x00000000006aa3b0 r30: 0x0000000000660880 r31: 0x00000000011f8984 Binary Images Description: 0x1c5000 - 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I've had this same problem with VApp. It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be a bug). Chris On Oct 25, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/25/05 8:12 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: > > Hi Keith, > > >> I have a corrupted 1.11 db (-39) that I can dump as an XML file using >> Valentina 1.11. >> >> When I select LoadDump, Valentina will not allow me to select the >> XML file. >> I've beenunable to discover the type/creator that Valentina needs >> for me to >> select the xml file. >> >> It's been a while but LoadDump is giving me fits... why is this >> happening? >> > > So question is why file is dimmed? > Probably because it has wrong type/creator. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Tue Oct 25 12:17:31 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Tue Oct 25 14:17:54 2005 Subject: Valentina Studio Purchasing Problem In-Reply-To: <735763E6-F605-45AB-BFBA-F7E0B3EB9ED7@pcisys.net> Message-ID: <20051025191735.B541817D068@spatula.dreamhost.com> Hi Chuck, Ill have someone look into this. I can also send you a "bill" via Paypal if that helps as an alternative. We do snail, too, if you are in the US :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Pelto > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:23 AM > To: Valentina Developers > Subject: Valentina Studio Purchasing Problem > > Tried to buy VS. > > Web-site process is malfunctioning. > > Do Billing Information. Then do Shipping Information. Then, > the system brings me back to a blank Billing Information form. > > What's to be done to correct this? > > Regards, > > Chuck Pelto > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 23:10:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 15:10:24 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: <43D58DE9-5C6A-47E2-A188-E3CD0567EE14@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 9:38 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > That is not the case, Ruslan. I've had this same problem with VApp. > It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with > the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been > able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's > necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be > a bug). I think it needs only set text/text. Also I like DefaultFodler utility. It allow with Option ALL files in the dialog. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 23:13:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 15:13:28 2005 Subject: Valentina Databases on Mac/PC In-Reply-To: <435E77F0.2020509@mook.co.uk> Message-ID: On 10/25/05 9:22 PM, "Milan" wrote: > OK, I've installed on another PC, and, weirdly, it works OK! Could there > be some leftover DLL files somewhere from an old install on the other > machine (the one it still won't work on)? Ok Only problem with Windows we have see few times: if PATH variable is too long, then Windows do not see the last paths. But then Xtra is not recognized. > I feel like I am making progress, but crucially, I'm still hitting my > original problem. On the PC that is running the Xtra OK, I can create > and access a database, but if I then try and query the database on the > Mac it doesn't work, and I don't receive any errors. Can you A) make such db on Windows using our example AddUpdateRecords B) test it on MAC. If this not works for you then send me that db. > The same situation > works in reverse - if I create and access the database on a Mac it works > OK, but if I then try to query the database on a PC it comes back with > no search results. > > Are the Valentina database files stored in a format that would cause > cross-platform issues? No. it should work fine of course. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From delong at redcort.com Tue Oct 25 13:21:40 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Tue Oct 25 15:21:50 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On 10/25/05 9:38 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > >> That is not the case, Ruslan. I've had this same problem with VApp. >> It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with >> the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been >> able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's >> necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be >> a bug). > > I think it needs only set text/text. Vapp doesn't LoadDump with TEXT,TEXT text/TEXT TEXT,text or text/text... Sigh :-( From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Oct 25 23:46:00 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 15:46:07 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/25/05 11:21 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: >>> That is not the case, Ruslan. I've had this same problem with VApp. >>> It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with >>> the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been >>> able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's >>> necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be >>> a bug). >> >> I think it needs only set text/text. > > Vapp doesn't LoadDump with TEXT,TEXT text/TEXT TEXT,text or text/text... > > Sigh :-( Wait, do you type "TEXT,TEXT" ? This should be 2 separate fields: creator text type text So there is no any comas or slashes -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From delong at redcort.com Tue Oct 25 13:52:21 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Tue Oct 25 15:52:36 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On 10/25/05 11:21 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: > >>>> That is not the case, Ruslan. I've had this same problem with VApp. >>>> It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with >>>> the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been >>>> able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's >>>> necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be >>>> a bug). >>> >>> I think it needs only set text/text. >> >> Vapp doesn't LoadDump with TEXT,TEXT text/TEXT TEXT,text or text/text... >> >> Sigh :-( > > Wait, do you type "TEXT,TEXT" ? > > This should be 2 separate fields: > > creator text > type text > > So there is no any comas or slashes I was entering these just as you indicate. I've been setting Mac file type and creator codes for the last 20 years so I'm pretty sure I was doing it correctly. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 00:02:57 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Oct 25 16:03:05 2005 Subject: LoadDump files not selectable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/25/05 11:52 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: >> On 10/25/05 11:21 PM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: >> >>>>> That is not the case, Ruslan. I've had this same problem with VApp. >>>>> It won't let you select any type of file. I've tried playing with >>>>> the type/creator codes using ResEdit and had no luck. I've only been >>>>> able to load a dump using Valentina Studio (but even with that, it's >>>>> necessary to have another database open first, which I think must be >>>>> a bug). >>>> >>>> I think it needs only set text/text. >>> >>> Vapp doesn't LoadDump with TEXT,TEXT text/TEXT TEXT,text or text/text... >>> >>> Sigh :-( >> >> Wait, do you type "TEXT,TEXT" ? >> >> This should be 2 separate fields: >> >> creator text >> type text >> >> So there is no any comas or slashes > > I was entering these just as you indicate. I've been setting Mac file type > and creator codes for the last 20 years so I'm pretty sure I was doing it > correctly. Then just try install that DefaultFolder utility as fast solution. It can work in demo mode 2 weeks -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cbpelto at pcisys.net Tue Oct 25 21:01:46 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Tue Oct 25 22:01:55 2005 Subject: Valentina Studio Purchasing Problem In-Reply-To: <20051025191735.B541817D068@spatula.dreamhost.com> References: <20051025191735.B541817D068@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <39E9397E-4F9D-48F4-AB55-A746D654D15A@pcisys.net> On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:17 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: > Ill have someone look into this. I can also send you a "bill" via > Paypal if > that helps as an alternative. We do snail, too, if you are in the > US :-) Oh, lord. NO! Not Paypal. Those egregious so-and-sos! Regards, Chuck From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 04:04:25 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 05:04:35 2005 Subject: Conversion Question Message-ID: <7D06341F-9004-421D-9CD1-ED8B162FF6D5@pcisys.net> I've got data out of an old Visual FoxPro database that I'm interested in moving to a Valentina Class-Way type database. I'm procuring Valentina Studio to assist in this activity. What do you recommend as the best process to: [1] Move the data over. [Note: Data is currently stored in a series of FileMaker Pro data files; one file per table of the VFP database structure.] [2] Establish the links in Valentina as a class-way format. Regards, Chuck Pelto From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 04:26:19 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 05:26:29 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... Message-ID: Establishing a New Database (v2) with the latest beta of Valentina Studio, I always get a crash if I do not establish the database in the Applications folder. Here's the crash report..... -------------- next part -------------- Regards, Chuck Pelto P.S. Platform is a PowerBook G4 1.25 GHz with 1 GB RAM and 7GB of disk space available, running on OS 10.4.2. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 14:36:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 06:36:56 2005 Subject: Conversion Question In-Reply-To: <7D06341F-9004-421D-9CD1-ED8B162FF6D5@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/26/05 1:04 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: Hi Chuck, > I've got data out of an old Visual FoxPro database that I'm > interested in moving to a Valentina Class-Way type database. ok > I'm procuring Valentina Studio to assist in this activity. > What do you recommend as the best process to: > [1] Move the data over. [Note: Data is currently stored in a series > of FileMaker Pro data files; one file per table of the VFP database > structure.] > [2] Establish the links in Valentina as a class-way format. So you ask about Structure of Database? 1) Please note, link and Class-way are different things. Links exists for each way, Sql, Api, Class. 2) you can at first creat in Valentina structure like in old db. then import data. and only after this you can use VObjectPtr.ConvertRDB() method or SQL command CONVERT RDB to convvert Relational FK to ObjectPtr links. It is harder produce binary links. It needs write some loops to link records using binary links using existed relational links. After this relational links can be deleted. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 14:37:52 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 06:37:59 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/05 1:26 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > Establishing a New Database (v2) with the latest beta of Valentina > Studio, I always get a crash if I do not establish the database in > the Applications folder. > > Here's the crash report..... No crash log. Please enter this info into bug tracker. http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/bt/ -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 08:41:50 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 09:41:59 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FE88FDC-4A76-4DDE-A395-A50D2D3BFB09@pcisys.net> Yes.... ...apparently the listserv does not allow for attachments. Where can I send the report, directly, to you? Regards, Chuck Pelto On Oct 26, 2005, at 5:37 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/26/05 1:26 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > > >> Establishing a New Database (v2) with the latest beta of Valentina >> Studio, I always get a crash if I do not establish the database in >> the Applications folder. >> >> Here's the crash report..... >> > > No crash log. > > Please enter this info into bug tracker. > > http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/bt/ > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 08:50:55 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 09:51:04 2005 Subject: Conversion Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B76C300-9D9F-4FBA-8C07-2A93A91F1A8F@pcisys.net> On Oct 26, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > So you ask about Structure of Database? > > 1) Please note, link and Class-way are different things. > Links exists for each way, Sql, Api, Class. > > 2) you can at first creat in Valentina structure like in old db. > then import data. I want to streamline the database structure. It was not very well done in the first place. So I'll be combining some of the tables and other tables will be prepared differently. > and only after this you can use VObjectPtr.ConvertRDB() method > or SQL command CONVERT RDB to convvert Relational FK to ObjectPtr > links. I'd not thought of these. I'll take a look at them. > It is harder produce binary links. It needs write some loops to > link records > using binary links using existed relational links. After this > relational > links can be deleted. This is what I was thinking would be necessary; an application that would loop through the records and set the binary links based on the old data's relational linking fields data. Once satisfied that the binary-links were properly aligned, I would delete the old relational linking fields. A question about VS. Using VS, can I find selected records in a database table and then, having found a set of records, set/replace all the data in a particular field of all those records? Regards, Chuck Pelto From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 18:28:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 10:28:24 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... In-Reply-To: <2FE88FDC-4A76-4DDE-A395-A50D2D3BFB09@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/26/05 5:41 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > Yes.... > > ...apparently the listserv does not allow for attachments. > > Where can I send the report, directly, to you? Yes of course And to Jochen -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 18:30:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 10:30:29 2005 Subject: Conversion Question In-Reply-To: <9B76C300-9D9F-4FBA-8C07-2A93A91F1A8F@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On 10/26/05 5:50 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > This is what I was thinking would be necessary; an application that > would loop through the records and set the binary links based on the > old data's relational linking fields data. right > Once satisfied that the binary-links were properly aligned, I would > delete the old relational linking fields. right > A question about VS. Using VS, can I find selected records in a > database table and then, having found a set of records, set/replace > all the data in a particular field of all those records? I think this is not implemented yet. But you can easy achieve this using SQL UPDATE WHERE command -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 09:57:09 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 10:57:23 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And what ARE those e-mail addresses? Hitting reply just sends things to the listserv. Thanks, Chuck Pelto On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/26/05 5:41 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > > >> Yes.... >> >> ...apparently the listserv does not allow for attachments. >> >> Where can I send the report, directly, to you? >> > > Yes of course > > And to Jochen > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > > From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 10:00:17 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 11:00:27 2005 Subject: Conversion Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4960E6EA-2E6B-44E3-9EC0-3C73C51D0C32@pcisys.net> On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> A question about VS. Using VS, can I find selected records in a >> database table and then, having found a set of records, set/replace >> all the data in a particular field of all those records? >> > > I think this is not implemented yet. > > But you can easy achieve this using SQL UPDATE WHERE command Well. It would probably be easier to work the data inside of FMP anyway. At least en mass?, at first. However, later, doing any fine tuning might get cumbersome. Regards, Chuck Pelto From cbpelto at pcisys.net Wed Oct 26 10:09:18 2005 From: cbpelto at pcisys.net (Chuck Pelto) Date: Wed Oct 26 11:09:26 2005 Subject: Another VS Crash Report Message-ID: <60B0A0F0-64F2-4690-8447-1979D275AF51@pcisys.net> Had another one. This time while changing a field type from a SHORT to a LONG. Have sent a crash report to Apple. Don't know whether or not they'll forward it to you. Need YOUR e-mail address and Jochen's to send these things to you as well. Tried to get into bug report system. Apparently I'm not registered. So I registered, but have yet to receive e-mail for confirmation. Regards, Chuck Pelto From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Oct 26 12:14:26 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Oct 26 11:14:36 2005 Subject: Another VS Crash Report In-Reply-To: <60B0A0F0-64F2-4690-8447-1979D275AF51@pcisys.net> References: <60B0A0F0-64F2-4690-8447-1979D275AF51@pcisys.net> Message-ID: On Oct 26, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Chuck Pelto wrote: > Had another one. This time while changing a field type from a SHORT to > a LONG. > > Have sent a crash report to Apple. Don't know whether or not they'll > forward it to you. Need YOUR e-mail address and Jochen's to send these > things to you as well. Every time Ruslan responds to you, his e-mail address is in the message in the From field. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 19:19:06 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 11:20:44 2005 Subject: VS Still Has Problems.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/05 6:57 PM, "Chuck Pelto" wrote: > And what ARE those e-mail addresses? sunshine@public.kherson.ua Jochen Peters -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From fitzbew at nc.rr.com Wed Oct 26 15:21:46 2005 From: fitzbew at nc.rr.com (Russ Tyndall) Date: Wed Oct 26 14:30:03 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption Message-ID: Using RB2005R4, Mac OS X.3.9 ** Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for archive purposes. Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it too much. An RB project using an encrypted Valentina DB and the 1.11 V4RB plugin began inexplicably generating a Nil vCursor, even though the associated query has run ok a million times. Suspecting corruption, I restored the DB from a backup. Unfortunately, I continued to get the Nil cursor at the same query. I ran DIAGNOSE on the DB, and the report was filled with errors. I restored from an even older DB. No change. Tried lots of rebuilding, exporting, importing, etc. with no luck. I remembered that I had upgraded V4RB from 1.10 to 1.11 as part of an ill-fated attempt to work around problems upgrading project to V4RB 2.x. On a hunch, I switched out the plugins, so that RB was now using 1.10. This fixed the cursor, the project runs happily. I did run DIAGNOSE again (after "downshifting" to 1.10), and was surprised to find errors. Despite reported errors from DIAGNOSE, db appears to be fine --- all records are fine, everything looks great. Note: If encryption is removed from the equation, there are no errors at all in either version of the plugin. So, is DIAGNOSE no good with encrypted databases in 1.1x? I have found some mention in archives of DIAGNOSE not working if encrypted db has Booleans, but I was getting errors with fields of all types. -- Russ Tyndall Wake Forest, NC From delong at redcort.com Wed Oct 26 13:11:32 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Wed Oct 26 15:11:44 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Russ, Thanks for the report. > Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for archive purposes. > Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it too much. Ruslan promised a 1.12 release some time back with a couple of fixes. I hope the encryption problem can be resolved as well. Some of us are stuck in 1.x until 2.x matures a bit further. Given the component hassles of 2.x I'm wondering if it'll ever make sense for me to upgrade them to 2.x. Ruslan, I'll happily pay for an 1.x upgrade to keep v1 development alive. Keith DeLong From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Wed Oct 26 13:20:17 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Wed Oct 26 15:20:29 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051026202021.A95E917D02F@spatula.dreamhost.com> > Russ, Thanks for the report. > > > Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for > archive purposes. > > Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it > too much. > > Ruslan promised a 1.12 release some time back with a couple > of fixes. I hope the encryption problem can be resolved as well. There was a compatibility issue addressed in a paid for upgrade to 1.12, but my understanding is nothing else. > Some of us are stuck in 1.x until 2.x matures a bit further. > Given the component hassles of 2.x I'm wondering if it'll > ever make sense for me to upgrade them to 2.x. > > Ruslan, I'll happily pay for an 1.x upgrade to keep v1 > development alive. What's missing in 2.x that you need to make a transition? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 23:29:20 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 15:29:32 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: <20051026202021.A95E917D02F@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: On 10/26/05 11:20 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: >> Russ, Thanks for the report. >> >>> Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for >> archive purposes. >>> Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it >> too much. >> >> Ruslan promised a 1.12 release some time back with a couple >> of fixes. I hope the encryption problem can be resolved as well. > > There was a compatibility issue addressed in a paid for upgrade to 1.12, but > my understanding is nothing else. Right. That was for C++ to get xCode 2.x and CW 9.6 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Oct 26 23:36:02 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 15:36:11 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/26/05 10:21 PM, "Russ Tyndall" wrote: Hi Russ, > Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for archive purposes. > Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it too much. > > An RB project using an encrypted Valentina DB and the 1.11 V4RB plugin began > inexplicably generating a Nil vCursor, even though the associated query has > run ok a million times. Suspecting corruption, I restored the DB from a > backup. > > Unfortunately, I continued to get the Nil cursor at the same query. Strange. What if to create new fresh small database ? > I ran DIAGNOSE on the DB, and the report was filled with errors. > I restored from an even older DB. No change. You diagnose ECNRYPTED db ? It is know issue that for encrypted db Diagnose reports error Of kind: "wrong length of file ..." In fact db is okay. > Tried lots of rebuilding, exporting, importing, etc. with no luck. > > I remembered that I had upgraded V4RB from 1.10 to 1.11 as part of an > ill-fated attempt to work around problems upgrading project to V4RB 2.x. On > a hunch, I switched out the plugins, so that RB was now using 1.10. > > This fixed the cursor, the project runs happily. May be you have some problems with record locks? I can assume that 1.11 is more strict on record locks, than 1.10 > I did run DIAGNOSE again (after "downshifting" to 1.10), and was surprised > to find errors. Despite reported errors from DIAGNOSE, db appears to be > fine --- all records are fine, everything looks great. > > Note: If encryption is removed from the equation, there are no errors at all > in either version of the plugin. > > So, is DIAGNOSE no good with encrypted databases in 1.1x? I have found some > mention in archives of DIAGNOSE not working if encrypted db has Booleans, > but I was getting errors with fields of all types. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From delong at redcort.com Wed Oct 26 14:12:11 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Wed Oct 26 16:12:19 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: <20051026202021.A95E917D02F@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: >> Some of us are stuck in 1.x until 2.x matures a bit further. >> Given the component hassles of 2.x I'm wondering if it'll >> ever make sense for me to upgrade them to 2.x. >> >> Ruslan, I'll happily pay for an 1.x upgrade to keep v1 >> development alive. > Lynn wrote: > What's missing in 2.x that you need to make a transition? As I said above: Maturity. You must sense (as I do) from reading these lists and perusing Mantis that installation, updates, reliability of v2 to date prevents some of us V4RB developers with existing commercial applications from taking the plunge with v2. Regarding my other comment -- I warned Ruslan a couple of years ago that I feared the component nature of v2 would kill me with in increased support costs. It was a huge yellow flag for me as a commercial application developer. I think all you have to do is look at the installation/update hassles v2 users constantly deal on this list to know it's a huge barrier to upgrading my commercial apps to v2. Before we delve back into another defense the new architecture please understand I am not demanding anything at all. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. You have the right to offer whatever you want and the market votes with their purchases. I'm simply saying v1 is a much more useful platform for V4RB development for me. I'd gladly pay for continued v1.x upgrades. Keith DeLong From delong at redcort.com Wed Oct 26 14:15:13 2005 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Wed Oct 26 16:15:20 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On 10/26/05 11:20 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" > wrote: > >>> Russ, Thanks for the report. >>> >>>> Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for >>> archive purposes. >>>> Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it >>> too much. >>> >>> Ruslan promised a 1.12 release some time back with a couple >>> of fixes. I hope the encryption problem can be resolved as well. >> >> There was a compatibility issue addressed in a paid for upgrade to 1.12, but >> my understanding is nothing else. > > Right. That was for C++ to get xCode 2.x and CW 9.6 Several months ago you said you'd release an update fixing several small issues with 1.11. You said you were wanting to wait for feedback from a few people who were testing these fixes. One item was of particular importance to me at the time. I understood at the time that 2.x was a priority and I found a work around hack so I hadn't bugged you about it. I can take the time to dig through the archives if you need more details. Does this mean you've forgotten or changed your plans? Keith From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 27 00:24:57 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Oct 26 16:25:05 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/27/05 12:15 AM, "Keith DeLong" wrote: > Several months ago you said you'd release an update fixing several small > issues with 1.11. You said you were wanting to wait for feedback from a few > people who were testing these fixes. One item was of particular importance > to me at the time. > I understood at the time that 2.x was a priority and I found a work around > hack so I hadn't bugged you about it. I can take the time to dig through the > archives if you need more details. > > Does this mean you've forgotten or changed your plans? I think we have change that plan. Keith, at last of end, software companies do not improve usually old versions. If you remember, I have told that I have improve cache of 1.x using ideas from 2.x. But not sense for us ship 1.x that have features of 2.x. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Wed Oct 26 23:35:38 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Wed Oct 26 16:35:44 2005 Subject: V4MD crash can delete data of db Message-ID: <000701c5da75$350e5e10$82182c97@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Hi Ruslan, from two days sometimes I get a new problem: if I stopped my movie after some commands I get a crash and the size of vdb file become very little and the data are deleted. (Btw, I save a copy of db in start session) For the crash I understand that it's possible because I'm testing some new methods for me, but why this can delete the 90% of data in vdb file? I use this: on stopMovie gCursor = 0 Valentina.Shutdown() Valentina = VOID end Thanks Paolo From fitzbew at nc.rr.com Wed Oct 26 18:54:25 2005 From: fitzbew at nc.rr.com (Russ Tyndall) Date: Wed Oct 26 17:54:36 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <74E4A5BA-4673-11DA-BBCE-000393BE9C5C@nc.rr.com> On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 04:36 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi Russ, > >> Experienced a bizarre problem, thought I would post it for archive >> purposes. >> Since this is just 1.1x, not sure we should agonize over it too much. >> >> An RB project using an encrypted Valentina DB and the 1.11 V4RB >> plugin began >> inexplicably generating a Nil vCursor, even though the associated >> query has >> run ok a million times. Suspecting corruption, I restored the DB >> from a >> backup. >> >> Unfortunately, I continued to get the Nil cursor at the same query. > > Strange. What if to create new fresh small database ? > I did not try with empty/small db. I'm willing to try to send you another package that will help you duplicate the Nil cursor in 1.1x, although it will take me a little while. Do you think this will somehow help in 2.x? Otherwise, I am reluctant to distract you from 2.x. Also, this would be the fourth package I have sent you in a month, I think. At some point, you will start to delete my emails upon receipt..... : ? ) >> I ran DIAGNOSE on the DB, and the report was filled with errors. >> I restored from an even older DB. No change. > > You diagnose ECNRYPTED db ? > > It is know issue that for encrypted db Diagnose reports error > Of kind: "wrong length of file ..." > > In fact db is okay. Ah. Good. I have great skill at ignoring error messages. I'm as good as anybody. > >> Tried lots of rebuilding, exporting, importing, etc. with no luck. >> >> I remembered that I had upgraded V4RB from 1.10 to 1.11 as part of an >> ill-fated attempt to work around problems upgrading project to V4RB >> 2.x. On >> a hunch, I switched out the plugins, so that RB was now using 1.10. >> >> This fixed the cursor, the project runs happily. > > May be you have some problems with record locks? > > I can assume that 1.11 is more strict on record locks, than 1.10 > Parameters were never changed before or during switching out of plugin. Here is line that makes vCursor: rstDB = dbAvx.SqlSelect("Select common_name, sort_id, species_no from species where active = 'Y' order by sort_id", kV_Client, kV_ReadOnly, kV_Random) I don't know why fourth parameter is Random, could just be ForwardOnly. Random access is not necessary. Still, that *should* not cause Nil vCursor, should it? Even with more strict cursors in 1.11? The app runs at least one other query automatically with the same parameters, from a different table. The first query runs fine. Same vCursor property is used in both first and second (Nil) cursor, and I am sure it is Nil before second cursor. So, I do not *think* locks are a problem, if I understand you correctly. Russ Tyndall Wake Forest, NC From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 27 09:29:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 27 01:30:02 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: <74E4A5BA-4673-11DA-BBCE-000393BE9C5C@nc.rr.com> Message-ID: On 10/27/05 1:54 AM, "Russ Tyndall" wrote: >> I can assume that 1.11 is more strict on record locks, than 1.10 >> > > Parameters were never changed before or during switching out of plugin. > > Here is line that makes vCursor: > > rstDB = dbAvx.SqlSelect("Select common_name, sort_id, species_no from > species where active = 'Y' order by sort_id", kV_Client, kV_ReadOnly, > kV_Random) You only read this cursor? > I don't know why fourth parameter is Random, could just be ForwardOnly. > Random access is not necessary. If you do not use PrevRecord, FirstRecord, then you can use ForwardOnly. But this is just optimization. ForwardOnly cursor unlock record as only you move to next. Because you have promise never return back. > Still, that *should* not cause Nil > vCursor, should it? Even with more strict cursors in 1.11? It can return nil only in case of some error. You have check error ? > The app runs at least one other query automatically with the same > parameters, from a different table. The first query runs fine. > > Same vCursor property is used in both first and second (Nil) cursor, > and I am sure it is Nil before second cursor. So, I do not *think* > locks are a problem, if I understand you correctly. Please check error code. If cursor fail to create, then was some error. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Oct 27 09:31:04 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Oct 27 01:31:17 2005 Subject: V4MD crash can delete data of db In-Reply-To: <000701c5da75$350e5e10$82182c97@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> Message-ID: On 10/27/05 12:35 AM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: Hi Paolo, > Hi Ruslan, > from two days sometimes I get a new problem: > if I stopped my movie after some commands I get a crash and the size of vdb > file become very little and the data are deleted. > (Btw, I save a copy of db in start session) > > For the crash I understand that it's possible because I'm testing some new > methods for me, but why this can delete the 90% of data in vdb file? Hmm, so file was e.g. 1 MB in size and become 100Kb ??? Exists way to reproduce ? > I use this: > > on stopMovie > gCursor = 0 > Valentina.Shutdown() > Valentina = VOID > end -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Thu Oct 27 08:39:35 2005 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Thu Oct 27 01:39:47 2005 Subject: V4MD crash can delete data of db References: Message-ID: <000c01c5dac1$3293fdb0$1a172c97@vmtrm4p9ipbkv2> > > Hi Ruslan, > > from two days sometimes I get a new problem: > > if I stopped my movie after some commands I get a crash and the size of vdb > > file become very little and the data are deleted. > > (Btw, I save a copy of db in start session) > > > > For the crash I understand that it's possible because I'm testing some new > > methods for me, but why this can delete the 90% of data in vdb file? > > Hmm, so file was e.g. 1 MB in size and become 100Kb ??? Yes > Exists way to reproduce ? I can try to reproduce (not simple I think) and send you more information about this... I've never get this on V1, but with V1 I've made more simple db and query. From fitzbew at nc.rr.com Thu Oct 27 05:11:17 2005 From: fitzbew at nc.rr.com (Russ Tyndall) Date: Thu Oct 27 04:16:10 2005 Subject: V4RB - Version 1.10 vs 1.11 and Encryption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/27/05 2:29 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > On 10/27/05 1:54 AM, "Russ Tyndall" wrote: > >>> I can assume that 1.11 is more strict on record locks, than 1.10 >>> >> >> Parameters were never changed before or during switching out of plugin. >> >> Here is line that makes vCursor: >> >> rstDB = dbAvx.SqlSelect("Select common_name, sort_id, species_no from >> species where active = 'Y' order by sort_id", kV_Client, kV_ReadOnly, >> kV_Random) > > You only read this cursor? > >> I don't know why fourth parameter is Random, could just be ForwardOnly. >> Random access is not necessary. > > If you do not use PrevRecord, FirstRecord, then you can use ForwardOnly. > > But this is just optimization. ForwardOnly cursor unlock record as only you > move to next. Because you have promise never return back. > > >> Still, that *should* not cause Nil >> vCursor, should it? Even with more strict cursors in 1.11? > Changed cursor setting from kV_Random to kV_ForwardOnly to see if it made any difference in 1.11 plugin. See my next note. > It can return nil only in case of some error. > You have check error ? > If vCursor is set to kV_Random, then error code is 0, no ErrString in DB. Just get Nil vCursor. BUT, after changing vCursor to kV_ForwardOnly (no other changes), suddenly 363 error code appeared! This made me look harder for contention, and found problem in a Thread class. Commented that out, and now cursor works fine in 1.11. So, Ruslan, you were right as usual --- record locks problem. Had to make some other changes to accommodate "stricter" Valentina in 1.11, but nothing major. For example, had to set vCursor in one routine to Nil. V4RB had not complained before. > > Please check error code. If cursor fail to create, then was some error. Was not getting error code, until changed type to kV_ForwardOnly. Then, got 363. (still no error string) By the way, I think other error packages I sent you were not generating error numbers, only Nil vCursors. Of course, those were for 2.x so probably not relevant. For archive purposes: Just a reminder, all these problems (my fault, mainly) only appeared in Encrypted databases under 1.11. Everything worked fine in 1.10, and in 1.11 if 1.11 db was not encrypted. So, I suggest: 1.11 is more strict with cursors than 1.10 and MUCH more strict if DB is encrypted. Russ Tyndall Wake Forest, NC From cmsheffield at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 10:12:14 2005 From: cmsheffield at gmail.com (Chris Sheffield) Date: Fri Oct 28 11:12:29 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb Message-ID: Hi all, I'm hoping someone can answer this question for me. I'm using VServer with Valentina 1.x and Revolution. I have a customer who would like to store their data on a separate Novell server, but they would still use a Windows box to host the actual VServer executable. I know you can use master.vdb to customize where to store database files. What I'm wondering is if the paths entered into master.vdb can be network paths. Can I use a mapped network drive or even a UNC path so that the database files can be stored on a separate "server" machine? Thanks, Chris ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Oct 28 19:17:14 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 28 11:17:27 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/28/05 7:12 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm hoping someone can answer this question for me. I'm using > VServer with Valentina 1.x and Revolution. I have a customer who > would like to store their data on a separate Novell server, but they > would still use a Windows box to host the actual VServer executable. > I know you can use master.vdb to customize where to store database > files. > What I'm wondering is if the paths entered into master.vdb > can be network paths. Can I use a mapped network drive or even a UNC > path so that the database files can be stored on a separate "server" > machine? Nobody have try this Chris. So I cannot say you yes or no. You should try. Vserver extract path from masterdb, and I think it simply pass it to WIN API function file.open( path ) So there are chances that Windows correctly open your network path. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From cmsheffield at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 10:48:57 2005 From: cmsheffield at gmail.com (Chris Sheffield) Date: Fri Oct 28 11:49:09 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24EFD6C1-7559-4847-8768-F06A61C4B471@gmail.com> Well, I tried it and can't seem to make it work. I keep getting "error 3" when trying to connect to the database, which I'm assuming means Vserver is not finding it. Any ideas? In master.vdb I've set the path to my database as Z:\rndb\rn.vdb. The Z drive is mapped to a shared folder on another Windows machine. I also tried using a UNC path (\\chris2\SharedDocs\rndb\rn.vdb), but I got error 123 when I tried that, which I have no idea what that means. Is there any way to find out what path VServer is using to connect to a database? Is it possible there's some bug that's causing the file path to not get set correctly? If I could find that out, I could hack it in master.vdb so the path would be correct. This is only for one customer right now, so as long as we could make it work, that'd be fine. On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 10/28/05 7:12 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm hoping someone can answer this question for me. I'm using >> VServer with Valentina 1.x and Revolution. I have a customer who >> would like to store their data on a separate Novell server, but they >> would still use a Windows box to host the actual VServer executable. >> I know you can use master.vdb to customize where to store database >> files. >> > > >> What I'm wondering is if the paths entered into master.vdb >> can be network paths. Can I use a mapped network drive or even a UNC >> path so that the database files can be stored on a separate "server" >> machine? >> > > Nobody have try this Chris. So I cannot say you yes or no. > You should try. > > Vserver extract path from masterdb, and I think it simply pass it to > WIN API function > > file.open( path ) > > So there are chances that Windows correctly open your network path. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From cmsheffield at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 10:56:13 2005 From: cmsheffield at gmail.com (Chris Sheffield) Date: Fri Oct 28 11:56:25 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: <24EFD6C1-7559-4847-8768-F06A61C4B471@gmail.com> References: <24EFD6C1-7559-4847-8768-F06A61C4B471@gmail.com> Message-ID: <602572E9-4362-4DFB-957A-B8E5E45C8F68@gmail.com> Sorry, reported that wrong. I get error 5 when trying with a UNC path. On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Well, I tried it and can't seem to make it work. I keep getting > "error 3" when trying to connect to the database, which I'm > assuming means Vserver is not finding it. Any ideas? In > master.vdb I've set the path to my database as Z:\rndb\rn.vdb. The > Z drive is mapped to a shared folder on another Windows machine. I > also tried using a UNC path (\\chris2\SharedDocs\rndb\rn.vdb), but > I got error 123 when I tried that, which I have no idea what that > means. > > Is there any way to find out what path VServer is using to connect > to a database? Is it possible there's some bug that's causing the > file path to not get set correctly? If I could find that out, I > could hack it in master.vdb so the path would be correct. This is > only for one customer right now, so as long as we could make it > work, that'd be fine. > > > On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > >> On 10/28/05 7:12 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm hoping someone can answer this question for me. I'm using >>> VServer with Valentina 1.x and Revolution. I have a customer who >>> would like to store their data on a separate Novell server, but they >>> would still use a Windows box to host the actual VServer executable. >>> I know you can use master.vdb to customize where to store database >>> files. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> What I'm wondering is if the paths entered into master.vdb >>> can be network paths. Can I use a mapped network drive or even a >>> UNC >>> path so that the database files can be stored on a separate "server" >>> machine? >>> >>> >> >> Nobody have try this Chris. So I cannot say you yes or no. >> You should try. >> >> Vserver extract path from masterdb, and I think it simply pass it to >> WIN API function >> >> file.open( path ) >> >> So there are chances that Windows correctly open your network path. >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina mailing list >> Valentina@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina >> >> > > ------------------------------------------ > Chris Sheffield > Read Naturally > The Fluency Company > http://www.readnaturally.com > ------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Oct 29 00:55:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Oct 28 16:55:37 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: <24EFD6C1-7559-4847-8768-F06A61C4B471@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/28/05 7:48 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > Well, I tried it and can't seem to make it work. I keep getting > "error 3" when trying to connect to the database, which I'm assuming > means Vserver is not finding it. Any ideas? In master.vdb I've set > the path to my database as Z:\rndb\rn.vdb. The Z drive is mapped to > a shared folder on another Windows machine. I also tried using a UNC > path (\\chris2\SharedDocs\rndb\rn.vdb), but I got error 123 when I > tried that, which I have no idea what that means. Win os error 123 - filename, directory name or volume name is incorrect error 5 -- access by NULL usually > Is there any way to find out what path VServer is using to connect to > a database? Is it possible there's some bug that's causing the file > path to not get set correctly? If I could find that out, I could > hack it in master.vdb so the path would be correct. This is only for > one customer right now, so as long as we could make it work, that'd > be fine. I have not catch question... May be try to use Register Database ? Although I think also will be problems. I have not catch, what problems keep db on Windows? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Oct 29 11:02:43 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Oct 29 03:02:59 2005 Subject: [ANN] Valentina for PHP MacOS X 2.1 b1 Message-ID: Hi All, You can download the first first beta of VPHP http://www.paradigmasoft.com/download/VPHP_21b1_mac.dmg ------------------- We prepare now web pages for VPHP. The draft of page you can read here: http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/en/products/developer/adk/VPHP ------------------- You can read description of functions of VPHP here: http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:doc umentation:en:vphp:vphp Please note, VPHP require Vserver 2.1b1 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From BillMounce at Comcast.net Sat Oct 29 09:24:53 2005 From: BillMounce at Comcast.net (Bill Mounce) Date: Sat Oct 29 11:25:13 2005 Subject: [V4RB - 2] Error converting x1 to x2 Message-ID: <18249D37-C0EB-41B7-8D2D-4FFCC8A59875@Comcast.net> I have a set of x1 Valentina databases that will not convert to 2.0. When I try to load them into Valentina Studio, it crashes. When I run the Convert app, it says it does the work, but when I load the new database in Valentina Studio, I get an error (-49 I think). Other databases have converted fine. [Mac OS Tiger -- latest version of Valentina) Suggestions? Thanks. Bill BillMounce@Comcast.net From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Oct 29 13:45:35 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Oct 29 12:45:49 2005 Subject: [V4RB - 2] Error converting x1 to x2 In-Reply-To: <18249D37-C0EB-41B7-8D2D-4FFCC8A59875@Comcast.net> References: <18249D37-C0EB-41B7-8D2D-4FFCC8A59875@Comcast.net> Message-ID: <78d3319deb883fe58a35abb986205bda@desuetude.com> On Oct 29, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Bill Mounce wrote: > I have a set of x1 Valentina databases that will not convert to 2.0. > When I try to load them into Valentina Studio, it crashes. When I run > the Convert app, it says it does the work, but when I load the new > database in Valentina Studio, I get an error (-49 I think). Other > databases have converted fine. > > [Mac OS Tiger -- latest version of Valentina) > > Suggestions? Thanks. If there are field names or other stuff that have been reserved by Valentina in v2, this might be the problem. I've had to work around this by writing my own export and import code entirely from scratch. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Oct 29 20:53:09 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Oct 29 12:53:21 2005 Subject: [V4RB - 2] Error converting x1 to x2 In-Reply-To: <18249D37-C0EB-41B7-8D2D-4FFCC8A59875@Comcast.net> Message-ID: On 10/29/05 7:24 PM, "Bill Mounce" wrote: Hi Bill, > I have a set of x1 Valentina databases that will not convert to 2.0. > When I try to load them into Valentina Studio, it crashes. When I run > the Convert app, it says it does the work, but when I load the new > database in Valentina Studio, I get an error (-49 I think). Other > databases have converted fine. > > [Mac OS Tiger -- latest version of Valentina) > > Suggestions? Thanks. May be you can send us such small db ? Please cc to me and Ivan -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 10:06:40 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 02:06:58 2005 Subject: At Saturday our server did failure Message-ID: Hi All, Saturday our local linux server did failure (HDD problems). So we have install new HDD and spend a day recovering environment. I will answer email asap. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 10:22:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 02:22:32 2005 Subject: v4rb win xp rb 5.5.5 In-Reply-To: <9886601.1130637121127.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 4:52 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Hi Anna, > Hi Ruslan, > > The app that I am developing will be run off from a USB. I have a program on > the user's desktop that finds the program by iterating through the drives, > then launches it. The problem is that the rb program crashes unless it is > launched specifically from the directory where it and the valentina components > are. > > RealBasic doesn't seem to get the notion of changing drives and directories - > I've tried shell commands. Putting a shortcut on the desktop doesn't work, > because the usb could be in one of may usb ports, etc. I think that I've > figured out how to do this with a Visual Basic program, but that won't help me > on the MAC. Do you have any suggestions? Well, I think this problem is related to search of VComponents folder... Something similar exists in Vstudio bug report, that double click on db file cause problems... I think in near time we will try investigate this issue. > Also, the first time the program is launched after the machine it turned on, > it takes approximately 30 seconds to get to the first window. Sounds like OS caching. Something is loaded from USB into RAM ... Second time is not ... But what is loaded then? App itself or db files ? Question for searching. > After the first > time, it only takes 3-4 seconds. I have a window with a progress bar saying > that the files are loading, but it doesn't display until the 30 seconds have > passed (I put the window.show as the first command in the application open > event). Any suggestions? But do you know which exactly command "hangs"? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Sun Oct 30 15:09:52 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Oct 30 05:10:14 2005 Subject: SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <0AE62544-4183-4CA0-8FAA-118CB1040CD7@wanadoo.fr> References: <0AE62544-4183-4CA0-8FAA-118CB1040CD7@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <33947F55-C381-42C5-B0CC-3684FA313A09@wanadoo.fr> Hello Ruslan, For a rudimentary request : for i=1 to 10000 call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) next RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! I had sent you an example of program before the exit of the version 2.05... Nothing changed ! Is it necessary to avoid the use of the SQL with Valentina 2 ? Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union From Claudius at sailer-online.de Sun Oct 30 13:04:34 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Sun Oct 30 06:04:55 2005 Subject: SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <33947F55-C381-42C5-B0CC-3684FA313A09@wanadoo.fr> References: <0AE62544-4183-4CA0-8FAA-118CB1040CD7@wanadoo.fr> <33947F55-C381-42C5-B0CC-3684FA313A09@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: Hi Thierry, do you inserted an request in Mantis? What number? Thanks Claudius Am 30. Okt 2005 um 12:09 Uhr schrieb Thierry Nauze: > Hello Ruslan, > > For a rudimentary request : > > for i=1 to 10000 > call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable > (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) > next > > > RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : > 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! > > I had sent you an example of program before the exit of the version > 2.05... > Nothing changed ! > > Is it necessary to avoid the use of the SQL with Valentina 2 ? > > Regards, > > -- > Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina mailing list > Valentina@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2005r4/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Sun Oct 30 16:21:40 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Oct 30 06:22:00 2005 Subject: SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: References: <0AE62544-4183-4CA0-8FAA-118CB1040CD7@wanadoo.fr> <33947F55-C381-42C5-B0CC-3684FA313A09@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <4D88BB16-1BA8-4D28-A3A7-EC28725BAD05@wanadoo.fr> Le 30 oct. 05 ? 16:04, Claudius Sailer a ?crit : > Hi Thierry, > > do you inserted an request in Mantis? > What number? > > Thanks > > Claudius > > Am 30. Okt 2005 um 12:09 Uhr schrieb Thierry Nauze: > >> For a rudimentary request : >> >> for i=1 to 10000 >> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable >> (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) >> next >> >> RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : >> 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! No. But I had an exchange with Ruslan to whom I have already sent an example of program. He had to see for the 2.06! I am going, maybe, to make it soon. Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Sun Oct 30 08:11:31 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Sun Oct 30 09:11:51 2005 Subject: SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <4D88BB16-1BA8-4D28-A3A7-EC28725BAD05@wanadoo.fr> References: <0AE62544-4183-4CA0-8FAA-118CB1040CD7@wanadoo.fr> <33947F55-C381-42C5-B0CC-3684FA313A09@wanadoo.fr> <4D88BB16-1BA8-4D28-A3A7-EC28725BAD05@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On Oct 30, 2005, at 5:21 AM, Thierry Nauze wrote: > Le 30 oct. 05 ? 16:04, Claudius Sailer a ?crit : > >> Hi Thierry, >> >> do you inserted an request in Mantis? >> What number? >> >> Thanks >> >> Claudius >> >> Am 30. Okt 2005 um 12:09 Uhr schrieb Thierry Nauze: >> >>> For a rudimentary request : >>> >>> for i=1 to 10000 >>> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable >>> (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) >>> next >>> >>> RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : >>> 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! >>> > > No. > > But I had an exchange with Ruslan to whom I have already sent an > example of program. > > He had to see for the 2.06! > > I am going, maybe, to make it soon. Please do add it into Mantis. It will get done faster that way. In the beginning of the Val 2 betas, I noticed that SQL UPDATE is much slower than Val 1.x so I switched to API UPDATE and the speed returned. I believe the same is true for INSERT. Can you try it that way and let us know the results? Best regards, Frank Schima From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 17:25:36 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 09:25:53 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/30/05 5:11 PM, "Frank Schima" wrote: >>>> For a rudimentary request : >>>> >>>> for i=1 to 10000 >>>> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable >>>> (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) >>>> next >>>> >>>> RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : >>>> 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! >>>> >> >> No. >> >> But I had an exchange with Ruslan to whom I have already sent an >> example of program. >> >> He had to see for the 2.06! >> >> I am going, maybe, to make it soon. > > Please do add it into Mantis. It will get done faster that way. > > In the beginning of the Val 2 betas, I noticed that SQL UPDATE is > much slower than Val 1.x so I switched to API UPDATE and the speed > returned. I believe the same is true for INSERT. Can you try it that > way and let us know the results? Hi Guys, Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. And secret not in parser as I have think. Main time eat checks of e..g field with specified name exists table with such name exists... And so on. I wonder if we have inform you. In 2.0.5 Ivan have implement Pool of queries for Valentina. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ * when you do query which byte to byte is the same as prev one, then Valentina do not parse it and do not check nothing, instead it takes from pool ready execution plan and do it. So question is: how INSERT in above loop can be THE SAME for each loop ?! Answer is: use bindings!!! query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,'A')" for i=1 to 10000 call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i) ) ) next Such way is much faster of original way, although still (of course) is not so fast as Api calls. But close enough.... This is the most simple optimization you can do. It also simplify and clean your code. This way works in most major DBMS. Note, using binding, you do not need escape strings. Another speedup. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Sun Oct 30 21:38:52 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Oct 30 11:39:15 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C6EEEC5-F859-449C-9D01-F92C1C2E0A37@wanadoo.fr> Le 30 oct. 05 ? 19:25, Ruslan Zasukhin a ?crit : > On 10/30/05 5:11 PM, "Frank Schima" > wrote: > > >>>>> For a rudimentary request : >>>>> >>>>> for i=1 to 10000 >>>>> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable >>>>> (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'A')" ) >>>>> next >>>>> >>>>> RealSQL is always 8 (even 10) time faster than Valentina 2.11 : >>>>> 0.45 s vs 4.87 s ! > Hi Guys, > > Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. I do not doubt it. But to have such a difference between two bases on the same rudimentary and correct request SQL is a little bit surprising. > In 2.0.5 Ivan have implement Pool of queries for Valentina. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > * when you do query which byte to byte is the same as prev one, > then Valentina do not parse it and do not check nothing, > instead it takes from pool ready execution plan and do it. > > So question is: how INSERT in above loop can be THE SAME for each > loop ?! It is about the example only for the test. To replace 'A' by different values do not change anything. > Answer is: use bindings!!! So, if I understand well , it is better to avoid classic requests SQL with Valentina 2. > query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,'A')" > > for i=1 to 10000 > call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i) ) ) > next > > Such way is much faster of original way, although still (of course) > is not > so fast as Api calls. But close enough.... OK. With bindings, Velentina 2 : 0.53 s And, with classic resquest, RealSQL : 0.46 s. How to use bingings with : baseValentina.SqlExecute("CREATE TABLE maTable (id UMedium, maVarChar varchar(1022) )") 0.116 s for Valentina vs 0.013 s for ... baseSQLite.SQLExecute("CREATE TABLE maTable (id integer, maVarChar varchar)") ? > > This is the most simple optimization you can do. > It also simplify and clean your code. > This way works in most major DBMS. > > Note, using binding, you do not need escape strings. Another speedup. ??? s="l'oiseau" query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,:2)" for i=1 to 10000 call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i), s ) ) next 0.70 s for Valentina vs 0.57 s for ... for i=1 to 10000 baseSQLite.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES ("+str(i)+",'"+replace("l'oiseau","'","''")+"')" ) next It is not evident ! Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 19:59:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:00:07 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <0C6EEEC5-F859-449C-9D01-F92C1C2E0A37@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 7:38 PM, "Thierry Nauze" wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> >> Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. > > I do not doubt it. > But to have such a difference between two bases on the same > rudimentary and correct request SQL is a little bit surprising. Not so big 1) we use UTF16, so 2 times bigger strings 2) we use UTF16, so other compare algorithms, so even more slow. 3) we do a lots of checks that query is correct. in Sql Lite they do not have - constraints, - methods, - ... so they have less work todo .... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 20:02:52 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:03:08 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <0C6EEEC5-F859-449C-9D01-F92C1C2E0A37@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 7:38 PM, "Thierry Nauze" wrote: >> Answer is: use bindings!!! > > So, if I understand well , it is better to avoid classic requests SQL > with Valentina 2. Up to you. If in SOME places you need more speed, you can spend more time to achieve that. >> query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,'A')" >> >> for i=1 to 10000 >> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i) ) ) >> next >> >> Such way is much faster of original way, although still (of course) >> is not >> so fast as Api calls. But close enough.... > > OK. With bindings, Velentina 2 : 0.53 s > And, with classic resquest, RealSQL : 0.46 s. So much better, right? And if you again remember that we use UTF16 and true algorithms that take into account locales and so on.. Not bad. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 20:07:31 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:07:47 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <0C6EEEC5-F859-449C-9D01-F92C1C2E0A37@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 7:38 PM, "Thierry Nauze" wrote: > How to use bingings with : > baseValentina.SqlExecute("CREATE TABLE maTable (id UMedium, maVarChar > varchar(1022) )") > 0.116 s for Valentina vs 0.013 s for ... > baseSQLite.SQLExecute("CREATE TABLE maTable (id integer, maVarChar > varchar)") ? Here there is no need for binding. Thierry, CREATE TABLE is not big subject for speed. Of you going create/drop a lots of tables ??? Then use RAM based tables. >> Note, using binding, you do not need escape strings. Another speedup. > > ??? > > s="l'oiseau" > query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,:2)" > for i=1 to 10000 > call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i), s ) ) > next > > 0.70 s for Valentina vs 0.57 s for ... > for i=1 to 10000 > baseSQLite.SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) > VALUES ("+str(i)+",'"+replace("l'oiseau","'","''")+"')" ) > next > > It is not evident ! Interesting. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 20:33:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:33:40 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <0C6EEEC5-F859-449C-9D01-F92C1C2E0A37@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 7:38 PM, "Thierry Nauze" wrote: >> query = "INSERT INTO maTable (id,maVarChar) VALUES (:1,'A')" >> >> for i=1 to 10000 >> call baseValentina.SqlExecute( query, Array( str(i) ) ) >> next >> >> Such way is much faster of original way, although still (of course) >> is not >> so fast as Api calls. But close enough.... > > OK. With bindings, Velentina 2 : 0.53 s > And, with classic resquest, RealSQL : 0.46 s. BTW, If continue grow number of records (I have test to million once) Valentina start wins. It seems that was without indexes. This was always. The bigger db and the harder query the more Valentina wins. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Sun Oct 30 10:33:54 2005 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:34:15 2005 Subject: Anyone Available for Valentina Training in UK/Scotland? Message-ID: <20051030183354.7F50E17D029@spatula.dreamhost.com> Hello all, Nova International is creating a REALbasic curriculum for UK/Scotland and is looking for developers who are interested in training in Valentina (for REALbasic initially, but possibly others, Director, etc). That is, Nova is looking for trainers. If you are interested in expanding your business potential in this way, please contact me off-list. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From Claudius at sailer-online.de Sun Oct 30 19:35:11 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:35:31 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29CAE796-DCD7-4AA7-BFA2-9DD5BC9385BF@sailer-online.de> Hi, Am 30. Okt 2005 um 16:25 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. And secret not in > parser as I > have think. Main time eat checks of e..g could you give a short example. Do I need RealBasic Advanced or does API also work with Standard? I have only RB Standard. bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2005r4/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Oct 30 20:44:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:45:05 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <29CAE796-DCD7-4AA7-BFA2-9DD5BC9385BF@sailer-online.de> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 8:35 PM, "Claudius Sailer" wrote: >> Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. And secret not in >> parser as I >> have think. Main time eat checks of e..g > > could you give a short example. Do I need RealBasic Advanced or does > API also work with Standard? I have only RB Standard. This work in Standard also. Examples? Please looks into V4RB_Examples/Api_way. This folder have the highest number of examples btw! Point is that you use VCursor.AddRecord() -- this is Sql Way but with some API Or Vtable.AddRecord() -- this is pure API way. Again, Valentina have API way -- it allow you do everything without SQL. Of course for strong SQL developers it is hard change own mind to start think in other way. And of course not all tasks should go to API way. It is good that Valentina allow mix both -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Claudius at sailer-online.de Sun Oct 30 19:50:09 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Sun Oct 30 12:50:28 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9808DB9C-E54B-438D-AED8-68BDF2CFEFEB@sailer-online.de> Am 30. Okt 2005 um 19:44 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > On 10/30/05 8:35 PM, "Claudius Sailer" > wrote: > > >>> Yes SQL way takes longer time than API way. And secret not in >>> parser as I >>> have think. Main time eat checks of e..g >>> >> >> could you give a short example. Do I need RealBasic Advanced or does >> API also work with Standard? I have only RB Standard. >> > > This work in Standard also. Great. I thought it doesn't but it seems that I use it always for insert and update. > > Point is that you use > > VCursor.AddRecord() -- this is Sql Way but with some API > > Or > > Vtable.AddRecord() -- this is pure API way. is following API-Way? meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.setblank Call parsedate(EditField1.text.trim,CheckDate) meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.BDatum.Set(CheckDate.year, CheckDate.month, CheckDate.day) meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Kategorie_ID.value=AktuelleKategorie if EditField4(0).text.cdbl<>0 then //Ausgabe meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Betrag.value=RoundTextNumber(EditField4 (0).text) meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Herk_Konto.value=AktuellesKonto meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Ziel_Konto.value=AktuellesGegenKonto else //Einnahme meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Betrag.value=RoundTextNumber(EditField4 (1).text) meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Herk_Konto.value=AktuellesGegenKonto meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Ziel_Konto.value=AktuellesKonto end if if NOT CheckLeer(EditField5.text) then meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Kommentar.Value=EditField5.text.trim meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Blocked.value=false NewRecID=meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.addRecord meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.flush > Again, Valentina have API way -- it allow you do everything without > SQL. > Of course for strong SQL developers it is hard change own mind to > start > think in other way. And of course not all tasks should go to API way. Thats good :-)) > It is good that Valentina allow mix both It is always good, that you have several ways to the same result :-)) bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2005r4/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 31 09:36:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 31 01:36:47 2005 Subject: TIP OF THE DAY!!! : SQL request and speed ? III In-Reply-To: <9808DB9C-E54B-438D-AED8-68BDF2CFEFEB@sailer-online.de> Message-ID: On 10/30/05 8:50 PM, "Claudius Sailer" wrote: > Great. I thought it doesn't but it seems that I use it always for > insert and update. > > >> >> Point is that you use >> >> VCursor.AddRecord() -- this is Sql Way but with some API >> >> Or >> >> Vtable.AddRecord() -- this is pure API way. > > > is following API-Way? > > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.setblank > Call parsedate(EditField1.text.trim,CheckDate) > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.BDatum.Set(CheckDate.year, > CheckDate.month, CheckDate.day) > > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Kategorie_ID.value=AktuelleKategorie > > if EditField4(0).text.cdbl<>0 then > //Ausgabe > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Betrag.value=RoundTextNumber(EditField4 > (0).text) > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Herk_Konto.value=AktuellesKonto > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Ziel_Konto.value=AktuellesGegenKonto > else > //Einnahme > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Betrag.value=RoundTextNumber(EditField4 > (1).text) > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Herk_Konto.value=AktuellesGegenKonto > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Ziel_Konto.value=AktuellesKonto > end if > if NOT CheckLeer(EditField5.text) then > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Kommentar.Value=EditField5.text.trim > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.Blocked.value=false > NewRecID=meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.addRecord > > meineDatenbank.TBuchungen.flush YES this is API way. you use REALBasic methods. Not SQL commands. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From guy.jones at novaint.com Sun Oct 30 23:46:42 2005 From: guy.jones at novaint.com (Guy Jones) Date: Mon Oct 31 01:48:12 2005 Subject: [ANN] Database Trainer needed Message-ID: -- We are looking for a database trainer for our training session in Scotland in February. We will be offering training on database solutions within REAL as well as Revolution and other solutions that can utilize Valentina, each one independent of the other. So we will dedicate a complete day to database training including the built in database of REALbasic, plus external databases such as SQL and Valentina. We are looking for a trainer who can offer a general introduction to database theory, a strong knowledge of the use of databases within REALbasic and Revolution as well as php and who can be proficient in the use of the above by February and can provide a tutorial to participants on how to implement each of these external databases into a RB, Revolution or other solution. This knowledge should include both single user and server based solutions. A plus is to be able to demonstrate how to port over a Filemaker solution into REALbasic or Revolution or php. The trainer is responsible for developing all their training materials. It is helpful if the trainer has had experience in such training before an audience of 20. There will be future opportunities for working with Nova to provide this training throughout Europe. Please inquire off list to me. The Nova Group From cmsheffield at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 08:12:51 2005 From: cmsheffield at gmail.com (Chris Sheffield) Date: Mon Oct 31 09:13:10 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D5B80D7-BB0A-44DD-AF77-D093B9A7F9FF@gmail.com> I was just wondering if there was anyway to debug VServer so that I can find out what path is being set when accessing a database on a network path. Is it possible there's some bug that's keeping the path from getting set correctly, which means VServer is not able to open the database, which would cause the error 3? I looked up some information on file.open() and could not find anything indicating that it doesn't work using a network path. So this should work, but it's not unfortunately. I have played around a little more and find that if I have VServer hosted on a Mac OS X machine, with my database actually located on a Windows share, I can connect just fine that way. So why wouldn't it work when VServer is hosted on a Windows machine? Has no one ever tried this? I did discover that it works fine if the database is on the local hard drive but outside the main Databases folder. No error occurs. It just doesn't work when the database is stored on some network path. Any other ideas? On Oct 28, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> Is there any way to find out what path VServer is using to connect to >> a database? Is it possible there's some bug that's causing the file >> path to not get set correctly? If I could find that out, I could >> hack it in master.vdb so the path would be correct. This is only for >> one customer right now, so as long as we could make it work, that'd >> be fine. >> > > I have not catch question... > > May be try to use Register Database ? > Although I think also will be problems. > > I have not catch, what problems keep db on Windows? ------------------------------------------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com ------------------------------------------ From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Oct 31 17:23:41 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Oct 31 09:23:59 2005 Subject: changing database path in master.vdb In-Reply-To: <5D5B80D7-BB0A-44DD-AF77-D093B9A7F9FF@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/31/05 5:12 PM, "Chris Sheffield" wrote: > I was just wondering if there was anyway to debug VServer so that I > can find out what path is being set when accessing a database on a > network path. Is it possible there's some bug that's keeping the > path from getting set correctly, which means VServer is not able to > open the database, which would cause the error 3? I looked up some > information on file.open() and could not find anything indicating > that it doesn't work using a network path. So this should work, but > it's not unfortunately. > > I have played around a little more and find that if I have VServer > hosted on a Mac OS X machine, with my database actually located on a > Windows share, I can connect just fine that way. So why wouldn't it > work when VServer is hosted on a Windows machine? Has no one ever > tried this? I think yes. Agree very rare need. > I did discover that it works fine if the database is on > the local hard drive but outside the main Databases folder. Yes this should work. > No error occurs. It just doesn't work when the database is stored on some > network path. > > Any other ideas? Chris, who knows. MAY BE for Windows it needs to use other Win32 API function to open network file... Another tip to try: make in the folder "Databases" alias to network file. then MAY BE Widows will open that alias correctly. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed]