Presenter at Orange County Director User Group

[Gordon Apple]

   Wow!  Sorry to hear about that.  Before the LAMG (Los Angeles Mac Group)
imploded, we used to have three presenters and sometimes ran to 10:30PM or
so.  When I headed the Developer SIG at LAMG, we would sometimes have a
presenter (like Bob Krause of NeoLogic) from northern California who would
have to get back to LAX for the last flight out at 10 PM,  we did everything
possible to get presenters out on time.

   Unfortunately, some groups think they are doing you a favor by letting
you present (and give away free software), rather that vice-versa.  I would
be torqued too.

  BTW, I would have come to the meeting if I had been in Redondo Beach
instead of Little Rock, Arkansas, and knew about it.  If you ever attempt
this fiasco again (maybe another group) let me know.  The SBAMUG meets about
a block from me and usually has a hundred or so attending, but is user
oriented and not developer oriented.

   WWDC anyone?  I plan to be there.

        Gordon

-- 
G. Apple
Ed4U
Redondo Beach, CA
ga at ed4u.com





on 5/15/03 1:43 AM, Gunnar Swan at GunnarSwan at practicetopass.com wrote:

> Dear Sirs ...
> 
> I volunteered to present Valentina database to the Orange County User Group
> meeting (Southern  California).
> I'm not an employee of Valentina ... in fact ... I'm a happy customer who was
> willing to drive 240 miles (400 KM ?).
> The round  trip drive took over 3 1/2 hours.
> 
> I was to be the second presenter, starting at 9 pm and going to 10 pm.
> I was told at a break in the meeting that the first presenters ( a panel )
> were going over their alloted  time by some amount, and that the
> meeting was going to end 'this' at 9:30, reducing my alloted time from one
> hour ... to possibly 15 - 20  minutes.
> Two of the presenters had brand new babies (God Bless them) ... and were
> wanting to leave.
> 
> When 9:27 came, this left me three minutes to talk about Valentina.
> There is nothing to say in 3 minutes about anything except the weather.  I
> decided to get an early start  on my 90 minute drive home.
> 
> Needless to say ... you'll have to find someone else to talk about the
> Valentina database to that  unprofessional ... and rude ... group.
> Furthermore  the group is small and full of Flash developers. ... a group that
> are NOT likely to deal  with Valentina.
> 
> That was 5 hours of time I could of spent doing actual work ... productive
> stuff.
> I'll settle .... To whom should I submit my $50 car expense bill to ??
> !!!@#$#$$#*
> 
> Best Regards,
> Gunnar Swan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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