From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 1 00:10:43 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Mar 31 15:17:02 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] [TODO] Server parameters Message-ID: Hi Jochen, I have note that you still have not include feature GetParameter() / SetParameter() >From Vserver. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 13:22:50 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 05:22:59 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Server monitor disabled Message-ID: <13617.62.154.199.179.1080818570.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, >On start VS show now 2 browsers. >This cause some glitches I think. Maybe.. I have fixed many issues in this aerea - what glitches do you mean? > >I have close Top window, and using second I have connect to server. >Now I try to see server monitor window, and ops, menu disabled. Ahh - ok - no problem. I will fix it for the next build - trivial.. > >I have restart VS. >Now I have close bottom window. >Top window works fine. > > >------------ >Also I have try to close connection to server "localhost" >From main browser, > >Nothing happens if I use bottom window. You mean connection to Valentina Server running on localhost? Note: "virtual" connection to Valentina files on localhost can not be closed. -- Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 13:28:33 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 05:28:43 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields Message-ID: <22409.62.154.199.179.1080818913.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, >I have open db with TEXT field, >VS show > > correct text@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > >And some random garbage > > >This is standard mistake. >I also often do it in C++ > >You probably have made BLOB.Read into some buffer, >But have not set end zero. Ooops - yes of course! Will be fixed for the next build. > >Please check this. I have currently build a48 ready. Server Users are now shown also inside of Navigator :-) I will now polish code for "+" and "-" buttons so that they work correctly for all kind of database objects - i have found several bugs here. So - this will be a49 which i will release at the weekend. Has anyone found any crashes in a47? Please tell me what you want to have fixed for the next build! -- Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From fvanlerberghe at freegates.be Thu Apr 1 14:08:57 2004 From: fvanlerberghe at freegates.be (Francois Van Lerberghe) Date: Thu Apr 1 06:08:49 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: <22409.62.154.199.179.1080818913.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: le 1/04/04 13:28, Jochen Peters a ?crit?: > Has anyone found any crashes in a47? > Please tell me what you want to have fixed for the next build! - I'm unable to open the database if the path include a non ascii character (>127). For example "Donne?s" doesn't work. "Donnees" does work. - Open my database take a very long time : 53 seconds Open it in my application (made with RB 3.5.2 and V4RB 1.10) take only 7 seconds (PowerBook G4, MacOS X 10.3.3 french) - The Data view crash the app. Immediately or when I play with the vertical scrollbar. Perhaps this is occuring because I have non ascii characters (>127) in fields name. Best regards. Fran?ois Van Lerberghe Rue Thier Monty, 15 A 4570 Marchin Belgique From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 14:24:03 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 06:24:11 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: References: <22409.62.154.199.179.1080818913.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <48055.62.154.199.179.1080822243.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Fran?ois, > > - I'm unable to open the database if the path include a non ascii > character > (>127). For example "Donne?s" doesn't work. "Donnees" does work. Yes - known issue - i will try to fix that for the next build. > > - Open my database take a very long time : 53 seconds > Open it in my application (made with RB 3.5.2 and V4RB 1.10) take only 7 > seconds > (PowerBook G4, MacOS X 10.3.3 french) This is because in the Alpha Version i have included many debug messages and debug code. This slows down the app but helps me find errors more quickly. Of course in release build this will be much much faster. Your database has many fields/tables? > > - The Data view crash the app. Immediately or when I play with the > vertical > scrollbar. > > Perhaps this is occuring because I have non ascii characters (>127) in > fields name. Would it be possible to send me the database for testing? If yes please send it to support@valentina-db.de. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 1 14:52:25 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 1 07:42:38 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: <22409.62.154.199.179.1080818913.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/1/04 2:28 PM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: >> Please check this. > > I have currently build a48 ready. Server Users are now shown also inside of > Navigator :-) I do not see a48 on download page > I will now polish code for "+" and "-" buttons so that they work correctly > for all kind of database objects - i have found several bugs here. > So - this will be a49 which i will release at the weekend. > > Has anyone found any crashes in a47? I will check on Windows soon. > Please tell me what you want to have fixed for the next build! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 15:45:30 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 07:45:41 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: References: <22409.62.154.199.179.1080818913.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <11058.62.154.199.179.1080827130.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, >> >> I have currently build a48 ready. Server Users are now shown also inside >> of >> Navigator :-) > > I do not see a48 on download page Yes - because it has serious bugs - which i am fixing right now. So - next upload will be a49. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From fvanlerberghe at freegates.be Thu Apr 1 16:57:58 2004 From: fvanlerberghe at freegates.be (Francois Van Lerberghe) Date: Thu Apr 1 08:57:59 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: <48055.62.154.199.179.1080822243.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: le 1/04/04 14:24, Jochen Peters a ?crit?: > Your database has many fields/tables? Yes >> - The Data view crash the app. Immediately or when I play with the >> vertical >> scrollbar. >> >> Perhaps this is occuring because I have non ascii characters (>127) in >> fields name. > Would it be possible to send me the database for testing? > If yes please send it to support@valentina-db.de. No problem. Fran?ois Van Lerberghe Rue Thier Monty, 15 A 4570 Marchin Belgique From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 1 15:11:36 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 1 08:59:52 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/1/04 3:08 PM, "Francois Van Lerberghe" wrote: > - Open my database take a very long time : 53 seconds > Open it in my application (made with RB 3.5.2 and V4RB 1.10) take only 7 > seconds > (PowerBook G4, MacOS X 10.3.3 french) May be cache size different? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 17:40:32 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 09:40:44 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: References: <48055.62.154.199.179.1080822243.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <34447.217.83.183.225.1080834032.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> >> Would it be possible to send me the database for testing? >> If yes please send it to support@valentina-db.de. > > No problem. > Thank you, Fran?ois! -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 1 17:42:39 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 1 09:42:46 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Text fields In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34444.217.83.183.225.1080834159.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, > >> - Open my database take a very long time : 53 seconds >> Open it in my application (made with RB 3.5.2 and V4RB 1.10) take only 7 >> seconds >> (PowerBook G4, MacOS X 10.3.3 french) > > May be cache size different? I will test it with the database - yes - maybe. Note: You can already set the cache size for Valentina in Valentina Studio. Go to "Plugins" - select "Valentina files Plugin" - click on Preferences... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Mon Apr 5 20:46:23 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Mon Apr 5 13:46:34 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] [ANN] Valentina Studio Build a49 Mac+Win available Message-ID: <8920CA98-8731-11D8-9C6D-000A959F6B0C@valentina-db.de> Hi guys, you can download 1.0a49 from http://www.valentina-db.de/en/downloads/downvstd.shtml This is a bugfix release. Only one new feature: Server users are now shown also in column view - and you can add and remove users this way. This one fixes many bugs - so i recommend to download it! I am now working on a50. It will contain again new features. If you have any wishes for the next build PLEASE let me know! -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 6 01:05:20 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Apr 5 17:05:32 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, new user command Message-ID: Hi Jochen, Yes I see user in navigator. Looks fine. But not logical, when I choose show users only, that button "+" Still say "Create new database" Agree? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 6 01:07:49 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Apr 5 17:07:55 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, new user command In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/6/04 1:05 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Hi Jochen, > > Yes I see user in navigator. Looks fine. > > But not logical, when I choose show users only, that button "+" > > Still say "Create new database" > > Agree? Aha, sorry, it show dialog New users. It is just tool tip say not true :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From rwingate at visual-book.com Mon Apr 5 18:09:03 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Mon Apr 5 17:09:58 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, Edit -> Preferences References: Message-ID: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Are preferences supposed to be functional in a49? From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 6 01:11:33 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Apr 5 17:11:38 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Property window Message-ID: Jochen, Must exists way to hide property window. -- by menu -- by shortcut. for example in Photoshop exists command TAB, which hide ALL floating windows, and I can see my work window I have try make browser big on the whole screen, and property window hides my data. And I cannot it close -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 07:34:23 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 00:34:27 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, new user command In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13961.62.154.199.179.1081229663.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, > Hi Jochen, > > Yes I see user in navigator. Looks fine. > > But not logical, when I choose show users only, that button "+" > > Still say "Create new database" > > Agree? Yes - agree! I will change the text depending on the selected items for the next build! > -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 07:35:05 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 00:35:08 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, new user command In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14456.62.154.199.179.1081229705.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> > On 4/6/04 1:05 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > >> Hi Jochen, >> >> Yes I see user in navigator. Looks fine. >> >> But not logical, when I choose show users only, that button "+" >> >> Still say "Create new database" >> >> Agree? > > Aha, sorry, it show dialog New users. > > It is just tool tip say not true :-) Yes - i must change tool tip only! > -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 07:38:28 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 00:38:31 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, Edit -> Preferences In-Reply-To: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Rob, > Are preferences supposed to be functional in a49? What preferences are you looking for? In a49 they are not functional - but i can implement them for a50. This was not a high priority for me so far. So - just tell me what you want to adjust with the preferences and i will try to implement it for a50. Note: You can adjust preferences for Plugins too. Open the Plugins window and click on an entry - this way you can change the cache size for Valentina... -- Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 07:39:58 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 00:40:02 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Property window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19199.62.154.199.179.1081229998.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, > Must exists way to hide property window. > > -- by menu > > -- by shortcut. > for example in Photoshop exists command TAB, > which hide ALL floating windows, and I can see my work window > > I have try make browser big on the whole screen, and property window hides > my data. And I cannot it close Not true! You CAN close it! Look in the File menu (well - it is bad positioned there - i will try to improve the menu structure for a50) -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 6 10:56:28 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Apr 6 02:56:35 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Property window In-Reply-To: <19199.62.154.199.179.1081229998.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/6/04 8:39 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > >> Must exists way to hide property window. >> >> -- by menu >> >> -- by shortcut. >> for example in Photoshop exists command TAB, >> which hide ALL floating windows, and I can see my work window >> >> I have try make browser big on the whole screen, and property window hides >> my data. And I cannot it close > Not true! You CAN close it! Look in the File menu (well - it is bad > positioned there - i will try to improve the menu structure for a50) Ok, and we need shortcut also I did love TAB in Shop -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From rwingate at visual-book.com Tue Apr 6 10:23:12 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Tue Apr 6 09:24:03 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, Edit -> Preferences References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <002201c41be2$b4e14ec0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > What preferences are you looking for? I was checking to see whether window size and column widths were being stored yet. I would expect a program to remember those. They don't appear to be there yet. But my question yesterday was a more general one -- I click EDIT -> PREFERENCES (or click the Preferences button), and the Preferences dialog opens. I make changes, click OK, and then re-open the Preferences dialog. I see that the changes I made are not reflected in the dialog. This is what prompted me to ask. Thanks, Rob From rwingate at visual-book.com Tue Apr 6 10:41:49 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Tue Apr 6 09:42:39 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Small grammatical issues References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <002a01c41be5$4e8f6e60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Jochen, There are a few cosmetic issues to note. They're truly unimportant at this stage, but would be important to fix before releasing V-S. 1) In the initial VALENTINA STUDIO dialog that appears when I launch the unregistered version, there are a couple of grammatical errors: "This is _an_ unregistered copy. ... To remove this warning you can get a license code from Paradigma Software or one of _its_ distributors." 2) In the REGISTER dialog, "Firstname" and "Lastname" should each be two words. 3) From other applications I use, I would expect the "Window" and "Help" menus to be right-most. But right now, the "Server" menu is between them. Perhaps this is just my expectation. Rob From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 18:02:38 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 11:02:44 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Small grammatical issues In-Reply-To: <002a01c41be5$4e8f6e60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> <002a01c41be5$4e8f6e60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: Hi Rob, > > There are a few cosmetic issues to note. They're truly unimportant at > this > stage, but would be important to fix before releasing V-S. Thank you very much for your help! > > 1) In the initial VALENTINA STUDIO dialog that appears when I launch > the > unregistered version, there are a couple of grammatical errors: > > "This is _an_ unregistered copy. > ... > To remove this warning you can get a license code from Paradigma > Software or > one of _its_ distributors." > > 2) In the REGISTER dialog, "Firstname" and "Lastname" should each be > two > words. > Ok - i will fix that immediatly. > 3) From other applications I use, I would expect the "Window" and > "Help" > menus to be right-most. But right now, the "Server" menu is between > them. > Perhaps this is just my expectation. Yes - you are absolutly right - i also have seen this, it is on Windows, right? Yes - i must look into this and fix it. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From rwingate at visual-book.com Tue Apr 6 12:13:53 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Tue Apr 6 11:14:42 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Small grammatical issues References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com><17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de><002a01c41be5$4e8f6e60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <006501c41bf2$2ac5d3e0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > i also have seen this, it is on Windows, right? Yes, i.e., (naming the apps on my shortcut bar that follow the convention), Visual Studio, Word, Access, Excel, InstallShield, Director, Flash, DreamWeaver, Photoshop, etc. Also on OSX, Safari, Internet Explorer, and several of the apps listed above. Rob From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 18:15:48 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 11:15:53 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] a49, Edit -> Preferences In-Reply-To: <002201c41be2$b4e14ec0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <008301c41b5a$9e72b260$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <17717.62.154.199.179.1081229908.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> <002201c41be2$b4e14ec0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: Hi Rob, > I was checking to see whether window size and column widths were being > stored yet. I would expect a program to remember those. They don't > appear to > be there yet. Yes - right. This is a high priority. I must store this in every db - so that it will be more comfortable to use for example the Data Browser. > > But my question yesterday was a more general one -- I click EDIT -> > PREFERENCES (or click the Preferences button), and the Preferences > dialog > opens. I make changes, click OK, and then re-open the Preferences > dialog. I > see that the changes I made are not reflected in the dialog. This is > what > prompted me to ask. Ok - i see. I can make this work for the next build. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Tue Apr 6 20:19:35 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Tue Apr 6 13:19:42 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Property window In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, > -- by shortcut. > for example in Photoshop exists command TAB, > which hide ALL floating windows, and I can see my work window You mean "Command + TAB" here? This is Finder command to switch apps on Mac... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 6 22:31:21 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Apr 6 14:31:29 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Property window In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/6/04 9:19 PM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: Hi Jochen, >> -- by shortcut. >> for example in Photoshop exists command TAB, >> which hide ALL floating windows, and I can see my work window > You mean "Command + TAB" here? This is Finder command to switch apps on > Mac... No, just TAB. In Adobe Photoshop pressing TAB we can hide ALL __floating__ windows. Another TAB shows them -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 8 20:34:36 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 8 12:38:47 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: Valentina Studio Administrator 1.0 alpha available for sale In-Reply-To: <008001c41d8a$04edc440$0100000a@LYNNP42G> Message-ID: On 4/8/04 7:53 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: I think this should go to vstudio list also > Hello All, > > Since there have been many requests to be able to purchase the alpha version > of Valentina Studio Administrator 1.0, we've made it possible for you to buy > it now from our partner in Germany. Although the product is still in alpha, > it now has serialization. > > If you've been itching to buy, please see below: > > The URL for international orders is: > http://www.valentina-db.de/en/bestellen.html > > The URL for orders from Germany is > http://www.valentina-db.de/de/bestellen.html > > The URL for upgrades from VAPP is http://www.valentina-db.de/en/upgrade.html > > Notes concerning upgrades: > A valid VAPP serial must specified in the form. After that a URL is send to > the specified email adress. This URL points to a order form with the reduced > upgrade price. > > I want to reiterate that this is still pre-release software and I don't > recommend working with data unless you have a backup. > > Best regards, > > > Lynn Fredricks > President > Proactive International, LLC > > http://www.proactive-intl.com -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 10:36:21 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 02:36:44 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/13/04 12:26 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> Well, I wrote the database on the Mac side and read it both on Mac >>> and XP. Because the database is the same and the only change is the >>> valentina plugin used for builds (Win build with 1.98 versus Win >>> build with 1.10), I presume something has changed in the VText on >>> V4RB 1.10 >>> >>> Using the SAME valentina file: >>> V4RB 1.98 = no problem (Mac and XP), all is fine >>> V4RB 1.10 = display problem on XP reading VText (Mac is OK) >> >> I wonder if you have open it by Valentina Studio 1.10 ? >> >> Does VS also show wrong text? > > Hello Ruslan, I opened my DB with the Valentina Studio in XP, and it > display correctly all my VTexts Then it sounds like problem in V4RB code! Not in kernel. > but very strange, I cannot open the VS for MAC, both a42 and a49 (I > use Panther 10.3.3). When I do 2 clics on the VS icon, the icon flash > but nothing else ! I can work with latest a49 on MAC. 10.3.3 You have ON the crashes logs? Or open console and check if VS produce crash. > V Studio: Great tool ! Yes! Than more if you will note that it can 1) work with LOCAL db 2) in the same time work with remote Valentina Server 3) work with any ODBC source on MAC and Win 4) import/export to/from ODBC to Valentina LOCAL or Valentina Server 5) show pictures and allow add them 6) edit such properties of db which VAPP was not able .... > but I think it would be an usefull feature to > display VTexts in a large window instead of a grid I have CC this to Valentina studio list. Another useful feature can be: if value do not fit into cell, then when we move mouse over cell and stop it, yellow tooltip show value of cell as this do many Microsoft apps -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 14 10:11:08 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 14 03:11:17 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi, >> Hello Ruslan, I opened my DB with the Valentina Studio in XP, and it >> display correctly all my VTexts > > Then it sounds like problem in V4RB code! > Not in kernel. > >> but very strange, I cannot open the VS for MAC, both a42 and a49 (I >> use Panther 10.3.3). When I do 2 clics on the VS icon, the icon flash >> but nothing else ! Hhhm - strange. Have you ever used some very early builds of vStudio? Maybe you have very old preference db which vStudio is not able to convert to the latest version. Look for a folder called "vsPrefsDB" in your home directory (inside folder "Preferences") and trash it. > > I can work with latest a49 on MAC. 10.3.3 > > You have ON the crashes logs? > Or open console and check if VS produce crash. Yes - would be very helpfull. > >> but I think it would be an usefull feature to >> display VTexts in a large window instead of a grid Yes - agree. > > I have CC this to Valentina studio list. > > Another useful feature can be: > if value do not fit into cell, > then when we move mouse over cell and stop it, > yellow tooltip show value of cell as this do many Microsoft apps Agree. Note: I am currently working on the overall GUI of vStudio. I want to improve many stuff here - if you have any ideas, wishes for GUI improvements please let me know! -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 11:28:56 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 03:38:58 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/14/04 11:11 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Hi, > >>> Hello Ruslan, I opened my DB with the Valentina Studio in XP, and it >>> display correctly all my VTexts >> >> Then it sounds like problem in V4RB code! >> Not in kernel. >> >>> but very strange, I cannot open the VS for MAC, both a42 and a49 (I >>> use Panther 10.3.3). When I do 2 clics on the VS icon, the icon flash >>> but nothing else ! > Hhhm - strange. Have you ever used some very early builds of vStudio? > Maybe you have very old preference db which vStudio is not able to > convert to the latest version. Look for a folder called "vsPrefsDB" in your > home directory (inside folder "Preferences") and trash it. I think this is first attempt of Daniel, -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 11:30:26 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 03:41:22 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/14/04 11:11 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Note: I am currently working on the overall GUI of vStudio. I want to > improve many stuff here - if you have any ideas, wishes for GUI > improvements please let me know! Jochen, Yuri have point that many GUI ideas can be used from mySQL admin OpenBase tool Access FileMaker 4D Sybase PowerBuilder -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From fvanlerberghe at freegates.be Wed Apr 14 14:24:07 2004 From: fvanlerberghe at freegates.be (Francois Van Lerberghe) Date: Wed Apr 14 07:24:09 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: le 14/04/04 9:36, Ruslan Zasukhin a ?crit?: > On 4/13/04 12:26 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: > >>>> Hi Ruslan, >>>> Well, I wrote the database on the Mac side and read it both on Mac >>>> and XP. Because the database is the same and the only change is the >>>> valentina plugin used for builds (Win build with 1.98 versus Win >>>> build with 1.10), I presume something has changed in the VText on >>>> V4RB 1.10 >>>> >>>> Using the SAME valentina file: >>>> V4RB 1.98 = no problem (Mac and XP), all is fine >>>> V4RB 1.10 = display problem on XP reading VText (Mac is OK) >>> >>> I wonder if you have open it by Valentina Studio 1.10 ? >>> >>> Does VS also show wrong text? >> >> Hello Ruslan, I opened my DB with the Valentina Studio in XP, and it >> display correctly all my VTexts > > Then it sounds like problem in V4RB code! > Not in kernel. Just to let you know that I can read the same database without problem (Varchar and TextFields) on MacOS and Windows (98, XP). I use RB 3.5.2 and V4RB 1.10 (build december 19, 2003) Fran?ois Van Lerberghe Rue Thier Monty, 15 A 4570 Marchin Belgique From daniel.fleury at free.fr Wed Apr 14 15:59:56 2004 From: daniel.fleury at free.fr (Daniel FLEURY) Date: Wed Apr 14 09:00:10 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: [V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >>> but very strange, I cannot open the VS for MAC, both a42 and a49 (I >>>> use Panther 10.3.3). When I do 2 clics on the VS icon, the icon flash >>>> but nothing else ! >> Hhhm - strange. Have you ever used some very early builds of vStudio? >> Maybe you have very old preference db which vStudio is not able to >> convert to the latest version. Look for a folder called "vsPrefsDB" in your >> home directory (inside folder "Preferences") and trash it. > >I think this is first attempt of Daniel, Thanks Jochen, yes this is my first attempt to VS and I did'nt found any "vsPrefsDB". I booted from an external disk with 10.3.1 but VS still don't launch with it. Strange ! I use french 10.3 Best regards, daniel From rwingate at visual-book.com Wed Apr 14 10:28:51 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Wed Apr 14 09:34:45 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues References: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <000101c4222d$8390bcb0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > Note: I am currently working on the overall GUI of > vStudio. I want to improve many stuff here - if you > have any ideas, wishes for GUI improvements please > let me know! Here are a few cosmetic GUI issues I've seen: 1) I launch V-S on W2K, and the Schema Browser's background is white. Of course that's not a problem per se; just a bit non-standard for Windows. On the other hand, the Data Browser has a grey background. 2) I resize the Schema Browser window, enlarging it horizontally, and artifacts (grey vertical lines) appear in the white background of the window. If I enlarge the window vertically, no artifacts appear; it only happens when resizing the window horizontally. If you like, I'll send you a JPG of what this looks like (offlist). 3) Right-clicking an entry in the Schema Browser's "Datasources" or "Table Elements" columns displays a popup context menu that has 2 adjacent separator lines. For example: ___________________ | MACHINENAME | |__________________| |__________________| <-- double line | Close | |__________________| | New Database... | | Open Database... | |__________________| The popup menus that appear when right-clicking entries in the "Datasource Elements" and "Database Elements" columns DO NOT have this problem. Hope this is useful info, Rob From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 17:39:19 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 09:43:14 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac (was V4RB 1.10] encoding problem with XP) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/14/04 5:06 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: >> You have ON the crashes logs? >> Or open console and check if VS produce crash. > > I opened console but no messages after trying to launch VS In console click logs button In left column go to ~/Library/Logs /CrashReporter ValentinaStudio You can trash existed logs here and start VS again. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 14 17:18:05 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 14 10:18:15 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel, >>> You have ON the crashes logs? >>> Or open console and check if VS produce crash. >> >> I opened console but no messages after trying to launch VS > > In console click logs button > > In left column go to > > ~/Library/Logs > /CrashReporter > ValentinaStudio > > You can trash existed logs here and start VS again. Daniel - it would be very important for me to get a crash log to see what is going wrong! What machine are you using? G4, G5 ? Anything special? > -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 14 17:23:12 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 14 10:23:22 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues In-Reply-To: <000101c4222d$8390bcb0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> <000101c4222d$8390bcb0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: Hi Rob! > Here are a few cosmetic GUI issues I've seen: > > 1) I launch V-S on W2K, and the Schema Browser's background is white. > Of > course that's not a problem per se; just a bit non-standard for > Windows. Yes - you are absolutly right! I already have changed that to the normal grey background on Windows. This looks MUCH better. > > On the other hand, the Data Browser has a grey background. Correct - this should be the same for all windows. > > 2) I resize the Schema Browser window, enlarging it horizontally, and > artifacts (grey vertical lines) appear in the white background of the > window. > > If I enlarge the window vertically, no artifacts appear; it only > happens > when resizing the window horizontally. > > If you like, I'll send you a JPG of what this looks like (offlist). I have seen that - it seems to be a minor update problem - i am working on this. > > 3) Right-clicking an entry in the Schema Browser's "Datasources" or > "Table > Elements" columns displays a popup context menu that has 2 adjacent > separator lines. For example: > ___________________ > | MACHINENAME | > |__________________| > |__________________| <-- double line > | Close | > |__________________| > | New Database... | > | Open Database... | > |__________________| > > The popup menus that appear when right-clicking entries in the > "Datasource > Elements" and "Database Elements" columns DO NOT have this problem. Ahh - ok. > > Hope this is useful info, > Rob Thank you very much, Rob! Rob - you are working on Windows, right? I am thinking of making the "List View" the default one for Windows - what do you think? (The List View will be improved, too!) -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From rwingate at visual-book.com Wed Apr 14 11:36:39 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Wed Apr 14 10:37:34 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues References: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de><000101c4222d$8390bcb0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <001e01c42236$4ad296b0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > Rob - you are working on Windows, right? I am > thinking of making the "List View" the default one > for Windows - what do you think? I work on W2K and OSX (primarily W2K). I tend to think that on Windows, using standard GUI elements and widgets is best. Of course, there are some good non-standard Windows GUIs. However, on OSX (or any Mac OS version), I favor using more innovative and non-standard GUI elements. Because that's what I expect to see from Mac apps. I think it's all about user expectation, regardless of platform. Windows users expect certain looks and behaviors, and Mac users expect a little more freedom to explore cool designs. SHORT ANSWER: I think using the default List View on Windows is a good idea. Rob From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 14 17:49:06 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 14 10:49:14 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues In-Reply-To: <001e01c42236$4ad296b0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <46169.62.154.199.179.1081930268.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de><000101c4222d$8390bcb0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <001e01c42236$4ad296b0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <42A93737-8E2B-11D8-B08A-000A959F6B0C@valentina-db.de> >> Rob - you are working on Windows, right? I am >> thinking of making the "List View" the default one >> for Windows - what do you think? > > I work on W2K and OSX (primarily W2K). > > I tend to think that on Windows, using standard GUI elements and > widgets is > best. Of course, there are some good non-standard Windows GUIs. > > However, on OSX (or any Mac OS version), I favor using more innovative > and > non-standard GUI elements. Because that's what I expect to see from Mac > apps. > > I think it's all about user expectation, regardless of platform. > Windows > users expect certain looks and behaviors, and Mac users expect a > little more > freedom to explore cool designs. Totally agree, Rob! > > SHORT ANSWER: I think using the default List View on Windows is a good > idea. Ok. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From myoung at bigskyneuro.com Wed Apr 14 10:04:35 2004 From: myoung at bigskyneuro.com (Michael Young) Date: Wed Apr 14 11:11:56 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues In-Reply-To: <001e01c42236$4ad296b0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: I have not had much to offer on this list, so I have kept quiet. Rob has done a great job providing feedback, but I have to disagree with him on the GUI issues. I find that Windows and Mac apps work best for me when the platform GUI guidelines are followed. What makes the Mac platform great for me is the simplicity of the interface and the elegance of the apps. For example, I have many duplicate apps on Windows and Mac platforms (word processor, FTP, news reader, etc.) and the Mac apps for some reason are so much simpler and slicker to use. Other folks probably prefer Windows and that is okay with me. It is nice to have a choice. :-) Thanks for reading, Michael Y > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-studio-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-studio-bounces@lists.macserve.net]On Behalf Of Rob > Wingate > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:37 AM > To: valentina-studio@lists.macserve.net > Subject: Re: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues > > > > Rob - you are working on Windows, right? I am > > thinking of making the "List View" the default one > > for Windows - what do you think? > > I work on W2K and OSX (primarily W2K). > > I tend to think that on Windows, using standard GUI elements and > widgets is > best. Of course, there are some good non-standard Windows GUIs. > > However, on OSX (or any Mac OS version), I favor using more innovative and > non-standard GUI elements. Because that's what I expect to see from Mac > apps. > > I think it's all about user expectation, regardless of platform. Windows > users expect certain looks and behaviors, and Mac users expect a > little more > freedom to explore cool designs. > > SHORT ANSWER: I think using the default List View on Windows is a > good idea. > > Rob > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-studio mailing list > Valentina-studio@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-studio > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by CENTRIC INTERNET SERVICES] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 19:52:05 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 11:53:25 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] My expection on menu Server/connect Message-ID: Hi Jochen, Right now "connect" is located in File menu. But I have note that very often I say in head: Server -> connect So I make move to menu server to look for this command. What other people think ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 19:53:35 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 11:53:48 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate Message-ID: Hi Jochen, I think that may be there is sense to make one more menu Developer And move here Generate menu items. I think future VS will have more Developer - oriented tools, So let's collect them in special menu -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From rwingate at visual-book.com Wed Apr 14 12:55:18 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Wed Apr 14 11:56:13 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues References: Message-ID: <003601c42241$47a9de70$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > I have to disagree with him on the GUI issues. I'm not sure we disagree. The GUI example I was thinking of was a simple one: Windows' "Control Panel" window and OSX' "System Preferences" panel. The Control Panel window is nothing more imaginative than any other folder holding icons. The System Preferences panel serves a similar purpose, but organizes the icons into categories, uses animation, stores your favorites, etc. Much more innovative design. Windows' Taskbar and OSX' Dock fit this analogy too. > Windows and Mac apps work best for me when the > platform GUI guidelines are followed That's what I meant by "it's all about user expectation, regardless of platform." Although my earlier email did say "non-standard GUI elements", I could've stated it better. I should have said "non-conformist approach to GUI design". > What makes the Mac platform great for me is the > simplicity of the interface and the elegance of the > apps. Same for me. And for me Windows excels in speed and availability of software development tools. > Other folks probably prefer Windows and that is okay > with me. It is nice to have a choice. :-) I didn't say anything about preferring Windows; I prefer Mac OS too. :-) Rob From rwingate at visual-book.com Wed Apr 14 13:00:58 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Wed Apr 14 12:01:58 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] My expection on menu Server/connect References: Message-ID: <004001c42242$12392f60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > So I make move to menu server to look for this > command. > What other people think ? Makes sense to me. From daniel.fleury at free.fr Wed Apr 14 19:31:10 2004 From: daniel.fleury at free.fr (Daniel FLEURY) Date: Wed Apr 14 12:31:23 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Daniel - it would be very important for me to get a crash log to see >what is going wrong! > >What machine are you using? G4, G5 ? Anything special? Hi Jochen, I did'nt found ValentinaStudio in Crashreporter, before or after trying to launch VS My machine is a G4 Bi 1.42, a year old. Nothing special, I think Best regards, daniel From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 14 21:13:20 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 14 13:15:14 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/14/04 8:31 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: >> Daniel - it would be very important for me to get a crash log to see >> what is going wrong! >> >> What machine are you using? G4, G5 ? Anything special? > > > > > Hi Jochen, > I did'nt found ValentinaStudio in Crashreporter, before or after > trying to launch VS > > My machine is a G4 Bi 1.42, a year old. Nothing special, I think Any third party utility? It seems Default Folder conflict to Valentina studio -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From fci at europa.com Wed Apr 14 13:21:18 2004 From: fci at europa.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Wed Apr 14 15:21:52 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] GUI issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c4225e$158f4e80$0100000a@LYNNP42G> > I have not had much to offer on this list, so I have kept > quiet. Rob has done a great job providing feedback, but I > have to disagree with him on the GUI issues. > > I find that Windows and Mac apps work best for me when the > platform GUI guidelines are followed. What makes the Mac > platform great for me is the simplicity of the interface and > the elegance of the apps. For example, I have many duplicate > apps on Windows and Mac platforms (word processor, FTP, news > reader, etc.) and the Mac apps for some reason are so much > simpler and slicker to use. Other folks probably prefer > Windows and that is okay with me. It is nice to have a choice. :-) Valentina Studio should be mostly consistent across all platforms. You can make a multi-platform app that's elegant yet powerful with a non-platform specific toolkit (such as wxWidgets, which is the framework for VS). I do quite a bit of business in 3D applications, one of which, Vue d'Esprit (http://www.e-onsoftware.com) has the same interface on both Windows and MacOS X. And of course, REALbasic itself does a pretty good job at this, though it likely supports more Mac OS X conventions. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC http://www.proactive-intl.com From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 15 07:06:41 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:06:49 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] My expection on menu Server/connect In-Reply-To: <004001c42242$12392f60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <004001c42242$12392f60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <19804.62.154.199.179.1082005601.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi all, >> So I make move to menu server to look for this >> command. >> What other people think ? > > Makes sense to me. Please keep in mind that vStudio can connect to several datasources - so - what about connect to ODBC datasources? New menu item? Where to put? It can not be put in server menu - because Server Menu is special for Valentina Server... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 15 07:09:02 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:09:04 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20836.62.154.199.179.1082005742.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, > > I think that may be there is sense to make one more menu > > Developer > > > And move here Generate menu items. > > I think future VS will have more Developer - oriented tools, > So let's collect them in special menu Yes - good point! I agree. Note: To reduce the items in the file menu i already have introduced new Menu "View" - it contains for now: - "New Schema Browser" - "Property Inspector" Maybe i should also put "Data Browser" into this? What you think? -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 15 07:15:00 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:15:07 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31527.62.154.199.179.1082006100.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Daniel, >> Hi Jochen, >> I did'nt found ValentinaStudio in Crashreporter, before or after >> trying to launch VS >> >> My machine is a G4 Bi 1.42, a year old. Nothing special, I think > > Any third party utility? > > It seems Default Folder conflict to Valentina studio Yes - there was a conflict with this ... Daniel - do you have access to some other Mac so that we can isolate the problem on your machine? I can also try to install the french OS X here and test if vStudio is running on it. Has any other french user seen this problem before? Maybe there was a problem with the download or unstuffing? What version of Stuffit expander do you use? -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 15 08:49:04 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:49:15 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] My expection on menu Server/connect In-Reply-To: <19804.62.154.199.179.1082005601.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/15/04 8:06 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Hi all, > >>> So I make move to menu server to look for this >>> command. >>> What other people think ? >> >> Makes sense to me. > Please keep in mind that vStudio can connect to several datasources - > so - what about connect to ODBC datasources? Aha, I have loose that > New menu item? > Where to put? > It can not be put in server menu - because Server Menu is special for > Valentina Server... agree -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 15 08:50:22 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:50:30 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate In-Reply-To: <20836.62.154.199.179.1082005742.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/15/04 8:09 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > >> >> I think that may be there is sense to make one more menu >> >> Developer >> >> >> And move here Generate menu items. >> >> I think future VS will have more Developer - oriented tools, >> So let's collect them in special menu > Yes - good point! I agree. > > Note: To reduce the items in the file menu i already have introduced > new Menu "View" - it contains for now: > - "New Schema Browser" > - "Property Inspector" > Maybe i should also put "Data Browser" into this? What you think? Yes, why not. And View Info windows And any Show/hide commands-switchers. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 15 08:51:44 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 15 00:51:49 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: <31527.62.154.199.179.1082006100.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/15/04 8:15 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Hi Daniel, > >>> Hi Jochen, >>> I did'nt found ValentinaStudio in Crashreporter, before or after >>> trying to launch VS >>> >>> My machine is a G4 Bi 1.42, a year old. Nothing special, I think >> >> Any third party utility? >> >> It seems Default Folder conflict to Valentina studio > Yes - there was a conflict with this ... > > Daniel - do you have access to some other Mac so that we can isolate > the problem on your machine? > I can also try to install the french OS X here and test if vStudio is > running on it. > Has any other french user seen this problem before? I believe exists French users which can run it > Maybe there was a problem with the download or unstuffing? What version of > Stuffit expander do you use? Oh!!! Yes Jochen! Remember I have the same with Stuffit 7.0 I was need upgrade to 7.0.3 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 15 08:04:16 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 15 01:04:26 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac In-Reply-To: References: <31527.62.154.199.179.1082006100.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <22849.62.154.199.179.1082009056.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, >> Maybe there was a problem with the download or unstuffing? What version >> of >> Stuffit expander do you use? > > Oh!!! > > Yes Jochen! > > Remember I have the same with Stuffit 7.0 > I was need upgrade to 7.0.3 Ahh - yes! I have in mind that there was something concerning stuff it... Well - this can be the reason! Daniel - please update to newest Stuffit Expander and try again! -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From daniel.fleury at free.fr Thu Apr 15 11:00:54 2004 From: daniel.fleury at free.fr (Daniel FLEURY) Date: Thu Apr 15 04:01:13 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac [solved] In-Reply-To: <22849.62.154.199.179.1082009056.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> References: <31527.62.154.199.179.1082006100.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> <22849.62.154.199.179.1082009056.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: >Hi Ruslan, > >>> Maybe there was a problem with the download or unstuffing? What version >>> of >>> Stuffit expander do you use? >> >> Oh!!! >> >> Yes Jochen! >> >> Remember I have the same with Stuffit 7.0 >> I was need upgrade to 7.0.3 >Ahh - yes! I have in mind that there was something concerning stuff it... >Well - this can be the reason! >Daniel - please update to newest Stuffit Expander and try again! > Hi Ruslan and Jochen, yes, it's a stuffit expander 8.0 problem ! Fixed with 8.02 :-) "- StuffIt Deluxe 8.0 caused a problem whereby applications would not run if they were expanded from archive formats that do not preserve UNIX file permissions. In earlier versions of StuffIt Expander, this problem did not occur because the UNIX "execute" permission was set on all files as they were expanded. StuffIt Deluxe 8.0.2 restores that feature. " Thanks, Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-studio/attachments/20040415/361f8ed8/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 15 12:11:20 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 15 04:11:46 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: VS don't launch in my Mac [solved] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/15/04 12:00 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > >>> Maybe there was a problem with the download or unstuffing? What version >>> of >>> Stuffit expander do you use? >> >> Oh!!! >> >> Yes Jochen! >> >> Remember I have the same with Stuffit 7.0 >> I was need upgrade to 7.0.3 > Ahh - yes! I have in mind that there was something concerning stuff it... > Well - this can be the reason! > Daniel - please update to newest Stuffit Expander and try again! > > Hi Ruslan and Jochen, > > yes, it's a stuffit expander 8.0 problem ! Fixed with 8.02 :-) > > "- StuffIt Deluxe 8.0 caused a problem whereby applications would not run if > they were expanded from archive formats that do not preserve UNIX file > permissions. In earlier versions of StuffIt Expander, this problem did not > occur because the UNIX "execute" permission was set on all files as they were > expanded. StuffIt Deluxe 8.0.2 restores that feature. " Right. The same I have see few months ago. Now we wait for your comment and suggestions on Valentina studio! :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From rwingate at visual-book.com Thu Apr 15 09:46:09 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Thu Apr 15 08:47:06 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate References: <20836.62.154.199.179.1082005742.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <001701c422f0$0539b560$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > Note: To reduce the items in the file menu i already > have introduced new Menu "View" - it contains for > now: > - "New Schema Browser" > - "Property Inspector" > Maybe i should also put "Data Browser" into this? > What you think? Schema Browser, Property Inspector, and Data Browser all sound to me like they may fit more appropriately into the Window menu. Rob From rwingate at visual-book.com Thu Apr 15 09:52:00 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Thu Apr 15 08:52:57 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] My expection on menu Server/connect References: <004001c42242$12392f60$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> <19804.62.154.199.179.1082005601.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: <002901c422f0$d6b41cc0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > - what about connect to ODBC datasources? > New menu item? > Where to put? > It can not be put in server menu - because Perhaps there could be an "ODBC Connect" command in the Utilities menu? It may not exactly fit...not sure. If not, the File menu seems appropriate enough. Rob From rwingate at visual-book.com Thu Apr 15 09:53:25 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Thu Apr 15 08:54:19 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate References: Message-ID: <003901c422f1$09213350$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > Yes, why not. And View Info windows > And any Show/hide commands-switchers. All of these sound to me like good candidates for the Window menu. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 15 18:07:04 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 15 10:08:26 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate In-Reply-To: <003901c422f1$09213350$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: On 4/15/04 4:53 PM, "Rob Wingate" wrote: >> Yes, why not. And View Info windows > >> And any Show/hide commands-switchers. > > All of these sound to me like good candidates for the Window menu. But why Rob, Many apps have View menu. For example MS Entourage. it have View and Window menu. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From rwingate at visual-book.com Thu Apr 15 11:21:00 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Thu Apr 15 10:21:58 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate References: Message-ID: <006901c422fd$454497d0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> > But why Rob, > Many apps have View menu. > For example MS Entourage. > it have View and Window menu. Certainly. My thought was that commands located in a "View" menu typically modify the current window, whereas "Window" menu commands open or close new windows of some kind. For example, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, InstallShield, etc. Rob From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 15 17:32:04 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 15 10:32:22 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Menu Generate In-Reply-To: <006901c422fd$454497d0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <006901c422fd$454497d0$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: <0C68530A-8EF2-11D8-ABA1-000A959F6B0C@valentina-db.de> Hi Rob, >> But why Rob, >> Many apps have View menu. >> For example MS Entourage. >> it have View and Window menu. > > Certainly. My thought was that commands located in a "View" menu > typically > modify the current window, whereas "Window" menu commands open or > close new > windows of some kind. > > For example, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, InstallShield, etc. I will have a look how these apps handle this. > -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From ssa at sevenrays.ru Tue Apr 20 15:26:03 2004 From: ssa at sevenrays.ru (Alexey Starchikhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 06:18:18 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 Message-ID: <004901c426ca$44b21fb0$1e00000a@nd.ru> This things often appears then i try to create new fields. What does it mean? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-studio/attachments/20040420/4e9bf141/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 20 14:24:35 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 06:24:56 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 In-Reply-To: <004901c426ca$44b21fb0$1e00000a@nd.ru> Message-ID: On 4/20/04 2:26 PM, "Alexey Starchikhin" wrote: > > This things often appears then i try to create new fields. What does it mean? Hi Alexey, kFBL_CorruptedVarChar = 351, This is bad error! Can you reproduce it ?! You can get it ONLY using Valentina Studio? Or after work in your V4MD project? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From ssa at sevenrays.ru Tue Apr 20 16:17:37 2004 From: ssa at sevenrays.ru (Alexey Starchikhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 07:09:36 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 References: Message-ID: <006001c426d1$78a5d210$1e00000a@nd.ru> Hm, i don't know how to reproduce it from an empty base. Here is my base: http://www.zavolga.ru/sarveen/f/data2.zip Take it, and try to add VarChar field to Repertoire table ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruslan Zasukhin" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 > On 4/20/04 2:26 PM, "Alexey Starchikhin" wrote: > > > > > This things often appears then i try to create new fields. What does it mean? > > Hi Alexey, > > kFBL_CorruptedVarChar = 351, > > > This is bad error! > > Can you reproduce it ?! > > You can get it ONLY using Valentina Studio? > Or after work in your V4MD project? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] > ------------------------------------------------------------- > e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com > web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-studio mailing list > Valentina-studio@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-studio > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 20 15:31:32 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 07:31:47 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 In-Reply-To: <006001c426d1$78a5d210$1e00000a@nd.ru> Message-ID: On 4/20/04 3:17 PM, "Alexey Starchikhin" wrote: > Hm, i don't know how to reproduce it from an empty base. Here is my base: > http://www.zavolga.ru/sarveen/f/data2.zip Take it, and try to add > VarChar field to Repertoire table Wait. Try self for your db AS IS, do DIAGNOSE. I think your db already is corrupted. Most probably you have catch corruption working in Director IDE and stopping debugger. To avoid such corruptions use Flush() as often as possible. Please note, such questions must go to Valentina list, This is Valentina studio list. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From ssa at sevenrays.ru Tue Apr 20 17:11:53 2004 From: ssa at sevenrays.ru (Alexey Starchikhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 08:03:44 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 References: Message-ID: <007101c426d9$0e70aac0$1e00000a@nd.ru> You are right, db is corrupted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruslan Zasukhin" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 > On 4/20/04 3:17 PM, "Alexey Starchikhin" wrote: > > > Hm, i don't know how to reproduce it from an empty base. Here is my base: > > http://www.zavolga.ru/sarveen/f/data2.zip Take it, and try to add > > VarChar field to Repertoire table > > Wait. > > Try self for your db AS IS, do DIAGNOSE. > I think your db already is corrupted. > > Most probably you have catch corruption working in Director IDE and stopping > debugger. > > To avoid such corruptions use Flush() as often as possible. > > Please note, such questions must go to Valentina list, > This is Valentina studio list. > > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] > ------------------------------------------------------------- > e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com > web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-studio mailing list > Valentina-studio@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-studio > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Apr 20 16:08:31 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Apr 20 08:11:26 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Kernel error 351 In-Reply-To: <007101c426d9$0e70aac0$1e00000a@nd.ru> Message-ID: On 4/20/04 4:11 PM, "Alexey Starchikhin" wrote: > You are right, db is corrupted. Again, most probably this did happens during your debugging in Director IDE. Watch for this. And use Flushes to avoid this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From deane.venske at eduss.com Wed Apr 21 08:53:43 2004 From: deane.venske at eduss.com (Deane Venske) Date: Tue Apr 20 17:53:52 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Encrypted Databases - Very Frustrating Message-ID: <20040420225346.D684E10245C@edison.macserve.net> Hi Jochen, Could you please make Valentina Studio remember an entered password? I can't encrypt my databases at the moment because when I open one in Studio I have to enter a password for every encrypted item. My database has around 30 tables with a lot of fields. You can imagine that takes some time, even with copy and paste. Thanks, Deane Venske From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 09:26:27 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 01:27:01 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Encrypted Databases - Very Frustrating In-Reply-To: <20040420225346.D684E10245C@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: On 4/21/04 1:53 AM, "Deane Venske" wrote: > Hi Jochen, > > Could you please make Valentina Studio remember an entered password? I can't > encrypt my databases at the moment because when I open one in Studio I have > to enter a password for every encrypted item. My database has around 30 > tables with a lot of fields. You can imagine that takes some time, even with > copy and paste. Hi Deane, I wonder, you have for each table separate password? Why you not use single password for the whole db? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 21 09:58:59 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 21 02:59:43 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Encrypted Databases - Very Frustrating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, > Hi Deane, > > I wonder, you have for each table separate password? > > Why you not use single password for the whole db? I believe Dean HAS a single password for his database. I have also seen this problem - it seems to be problem in kernel as following: IF database is encrypted THEN all tables also have flag encrypted! IF table is encrypted THEN all fields also have flag encrypted! vStudio CAN NOT determine if this flag on table/field is set because database is encrypted or because table/field itself is encrypted - you see? Well - i can use the database password also for the tables and fields - (if the database is encrypted) but - is this correct? Or can we have cases where tables have been encrypted with say "password1" and later the database is encrypted with "password2" ? You see problem? Well - it is not real problem - i think it is not well defined what should happen in each case. Encryption should be carefully redesigned in 2.0 - i think... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 11:37:01 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 03:39:31 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Encrypted Databases - Very Frustrating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/21/04 10:58 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: Hi Jochen, >> I wonder, you have for each table separate password? >> >> Why you not use single password for the whole db? > I believe Dean HAS a single password for his database. I have also seen > this problem - it > seems to be problem in kernel as following: > IF database is encrypted > THEN all tables also have flag encrypted! > > IF table is encrypted > THEN all fields also have flag encrypted! Yes, right. > vStudio CAN NOT determine if this flag on table/field is set because > database is encrypted > or because table/field itself is encrypted - you see? Agree. > Well - i can use the database password also for the tables and fields - > (if the database is encrypted) > but - is this correct? Well, frankly saying I don't know nobody who have use different passwords. Once somebody it seems have try, and as I remember there was even some problems. > Or can we have cases where tables have been > encrypted with say "password1" and > later the database is encrypted with "password2" ? In theory yes, I was going implement such feature. If it works 100% safe I don't know. > You see problem? yes > Well - it is not real problem - i think it is not well defined what > should happen in each case. > Encryption should be carefully redesigned in 2.0 - i think... Totally agree! For now just use the same password for all. Btw, may be this will work: may be you can try passw of db to a table, if no error then this is correct password. and you can use it. if no, then you can think that password is other. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 21 11:17:16 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 21 04:17:25 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Encrypted Databases - Very Frustrating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <21418.62.154.199.179.1082539036.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi Ruslan, >> Encryption should be carefully redesigned in 2.0 - i think... > > Totally agree! > > For now just use the same password for all. > > Btw, may be this will work: > may be you can try passw of db to a table, > if no error then this is correct password. > and you can use it. > > if no, then you can think that password is other. Yes - good point! I will do it that way for now! By the way: Today i have speed up opening databases! No it works 10 - 1000 times faster - depending on how many fields and tables exists in the db :-) Many tables/fields -> BIG speed up... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 16:56:00 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 08:56:22 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: Server questions In-Reply-To: <79D9DFC2-93A3-11D8-91D9-000393DAB46A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 4/21/04 5:52 PM, "Gregory Kowalski" wrote: Hi Gregory, > Hello again, > > Thank you very much for your response. I tried registering a db but was > unsuccessful. Here is what I do: I have CC to Valentina studio list > 1. I put mydb in Database folder. > > 2. I launch Valentina Studio. > > 3. I open mydb. It appears. Wonderful. Actually you can skip this step. Think that Valentina Studio is on one computer, but Vserver + database files on other computer. may be in other country. > 4. When I go to the server menu to register the db the options are grey > (can't make selection). > What am I doing doing wrong? Do I have to start file sharing or connect > to server first? So think in this way: 1) you are client and you use Valentina Studio as client. 2) Vserver and db located on other computer. 3) so you must first of all CONNEC TO SERVER. 4) after that if you have specify ADMIN password, you will be able access Register menu -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 17:32:38 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:33:14 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: Server questions In-Reply-To: <79D9DFC2-93A3-11D8-91D9-000393DAB46A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 4/21/04 5:52 PM, "Gregory Kowalski" wrote: > Hello again, > > Thank you very much for your response. I tried registering a db but was > unsuccessful. Here is what I do: > > > 1. I put mydb in Database folder. > > 2. I launch Valentina Studio. > > 3. I open mydb. It appears. Wonderful. > > 4. When I go to the server menu to register the db the options are grey > (can't make selection). > > What am I doing doing wrong? Do I have to start file sharing or connect > to server first? BTW, Before play with existed db, I recommend you play with connect to server server create new db create table create fields Now you will see where db was created. You will see in Master database how it was registered. You must stop server and open MasterDb directly. BTW, you can self simply add new record similar to one you will see to register your database. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From gregkowalski at earthlink.net Wed Apr 21 10:50:44 2004 From: gregkowalski at earthlink.net (Gregory Kowalski) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:49:21 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Connect to Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello gain, I am trying to connect to VServer using valentina Studio but am unsuccessful. Here is what I am doing: 1. I launch Vstudio. 2. I select CONNECT TO SERVER 3. The window appears Type of database server: valentina server Host: localhost or blank User: sa Password: sa Port: blank I press CONNECT. I don't get an error message but I get the rotating circle thing (crash?). No connection. No error message. V studio doesn't respond. Must force quit. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help Greg From giv_ua at inbox.ru Wed Apr 21 17:55:34 2004 From: giv_ua at inbox.ru (Igor Gomon) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:55:47 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Connect to Server References: Message-ID: <000e01c427b0$b4d28780$3b04a8c0@giv> Hi Gregory, > Here is what I am doing: > > 1. I launch Vstudio. > > 2. I select CONNECT TO SERVER > > 3. The window appears > > Type of database server: valentina server > > Host: localhost or blank > User: sa > Password: sa > > Port: blank Try to type port number 15432 -- Best regards, Igor Gomon ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: giv@tlc.kherson.ua web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://listserv.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 17:55:39 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 09:58:33 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: Connect to Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/21/04 6:50 PM, "Gregory Kowalski" wrote: > Hello gain, > > I am trying to connect to VServer using valentina Studio but am > unsuccessful. > > Here is what I am doing: > > 1. I launch Vstudio. > > 2. I select CONNECT TO SERVER > > 3. The window appears > > Type of database server: valentina server > > Host: localhost or blank > User: sa > Password: sa > > Port: blank > > I press CONNECT. I don't get an error message but I get the rotating > circle thing (crash?). No connection. No error message. V studio > doesn't respond. Must force quit. > > What am I doing wrong? Strange What versions of vserver an vstudio? Server latest is a62 Studio a49 which is compatiable -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Apr 21 17:00:32 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Apr 21 10:00:46 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Connect to Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Greg, > I am trying to connect to VServer using valentina Studio but am > unsuccessful. > > Here is what I am doing: > > 1. I launch Vstudio. > > 2. I select CONNECT TO SERVER > > 3. The window appears > > Type of database server: valentina server > > Host: localhost or blank > User: sa > Password: sa > > Port: blank > > I press CONNECT. I don't get an error message but I get the rotating > circle thing (crash?). No connection. No error message. V studio > doesn't respond. Must force quit. Well - vStudio tries to connect until a timeout is reached.... So - you are running Valentina Server on the same machine? Please try to specify your machines IP-adress - instead of localhost. You don't have to specify a portname as long as you have not changed the port in Valentina Server. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Apr 21 18:56:06 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Apr 21 10:56:33 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] Re: Success In-Reply-To: <07E1D693-93B0-11D8-AB91-000393DAB46A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 4/21/04 7:22 PM, "Gregory Kowalski" wrote: > OK. > > Downloaded latest version of Vserver and was able to make connection. > > Getting there slowly but surely. > > The fun is just beginning! :-)) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From igor at xi.be Thu Apr 29 10:05:27 2004 From: igor at xi.be (Igor Foerier) Date: Thu Apr 29 03:09:24 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 Message-ID: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> Hi, when I was working with Studio for a small Director-app, I noticed these small issues: - when I open Studio, it always opens 2 empty schema browser windows: 1 default schema browser is OK, but 2? - the field order in the column view is alphabetic, but it isn't in list view. I tried to insert between 2 rows, like you can in other GUI's, but apperently that doesn't work. In general I'd say, not being able to organize the field order is no problem. But I'd like it to be the same in the different views otherwise it gets confusing. - In list view, if I add or delete a field, the right pane is not updated. It only updates if I click on the tablename on the left pane. It is the same if I add a field in column view and then switch to list view, the right pane is not updated. regards, Igor Foerier Multimedia Developer Xi Multimedia Solutions NV URL: www.xi.be From dave at parizek.com Thu Apr 29 08:09:39 2004 From: dave at parizek.com (Autoresponder) Date: Thu Apr 29 03:09:45 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 Message-ID: <20040429080931.97945.qmail@raitax.pair.com> Hello, This response is being generated automatically to acknowledge delivery of your message. From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 29 11:40:27 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 29 04:40:56 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> References: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> Message-ID: <3F2DC7D4-99C1-11D8-AFF7-003065488610@valentina-db.de> Hi Igor, > when I was working with Studio for a small Director-app, I noticed > these small issues: > > - when I open Studio, it always opens 2 empty schema browser windows: > 1 default schema browser is OK, but 2? > - the field order in the column view is alphabetic, but it isn't in > list view. I tried to insert between 2 rows, like you can in other > GUI's, but apperently that doesn't work. In general I'd say, not > being able to organize the field order is no problem. But I'd like it > to be the same in the different views otherwise it gets confusing. Yes - agree. > - In list view, if I add or delete a field, the right pane is not > updated. It only updates if I click on the tablename on the left > pane. It is the same if I add a field in column view and then switch > to list view, the right pane is not updated. > regards, Yes - this will be fixed. Igor - please note that i am currently working on the GUI of vStudio - the current downloadable Alpha has several GUI issues which i try to resolve now. If you like you can have a look at screenshots of the next Alpha here: http://www.valentina-db.de/vStudio -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 29 12:46:46 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 29 04:58:59 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: <3F2DC7D4-99C1-11D8-AFF7-003065488610@valentina-db.de> Message-ID: On 4/29/04 12:40 PM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: >> - the field order in the column view is alphabetic, but it isn't in >> list view. I tried to insert between 2 rows, like you can in other >> GUI's, but apperently that doesn't work. In general I'd say, not >> being able to organize the field order is no problem. But I'd like it >> to be the same in the different views otherwise it gets confusing. > Yes - agree. I can add: We must be able 1) see order of creation, because THIS IS order of SELECT* 2) see alphabetical order 3) in Valentina 2.0 we prepare feature, that it is possible specify and change order of EXISTED fields in table. This also affect SELECT* -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 29 12:47:36 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 29 05:12:50 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> Message-ID: On 4/29/04 11:05 AM, "Igor Foerier" wrote: > - when I open Studio, it always opens 2 empty schema browser windows: 1 > default schema browser is OK, but 2? Second browser -- this is just demonstration of JavaScript work. Please look into folder with JabaScript, You will see how it open second browser. Later of course this will not happens. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 29 14:25:25 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 29 07:25:34 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: References: <3F2DC7D4-99C1-11D8-AFF7-003065488610@valentina-db.de> Message-ID: <57473.62.154.199.179.1083241525.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Hi, > I can add: > > We must be able > > 1) see order of creation, because THIS IS order of SELECT* yes - this is default. > > 2) see alphabetical order this is currently done EVERYTIME - because i must add possibility to switch this on and off. So - funcionality is implemented - only GUI for it is missing. > > 3) in Valentina 2.0 we prepare feature, that it is possible specify and > change order of EXISTED fields in table. This also affect SELECT* It must also affect getting of fields by index via C++ API... -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Apr 29 15:40:40 2004 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Apr 29 07:41:12 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: <57473.62.154.199.179.1083241525.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 4/29/04 3:25 PM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: >> I can add: >> >> We must be able >> >> 1) see order of creation, because THIS IS order of SELECT* > yes - this is default. > >> >> 2) see alphabetical order > this is currently done EVERYTIME - because i must add possibility to > switch this on and off. > So - funcionality is implemented - only GUI for it is missing. > >> >> 3) in Valentina 2.0 we prepare feature, that it is possible specify and >> change order of EXISTED fields in table. This also affect SELECT* > It must also affect getting of fields by index via C++ API... Why? Let you have create f1, f2, f3. We will give ability change order virtually as f2 f3 f1 No get_Field( 1 ) returns f2 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: ruslan@paradigmasoft.com web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina ------------------------------------------------------------- From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 29 15:58:43 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 29 08:58:56 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5365BD86-99E5-11D8-A5DA-000A959F6B0C@valentina-db.de> Hi Ruslan, >> It must also affect getting of fields by index via C++ API... > > Why? > > Let you have create f1, f2, f3. > > We will give ability change order virtually as f2 f3 f1 > > No > > get_Field( 1 ) returns f2 That is exactly what i mean :-) IF we change the order than getField MUST also reflect this change. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de From rwingate at visual-book.com Thu Apr 29 10:49:25 2004 From: rwingate at visual-book.com (Rob Wingate) Date: Thu Apr 29 09:49:41 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 References: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> <3F2DC7D4-99C1-11D8-AFF7-003065488610@valentina-db.de> Message-ID: <005501c42df9$2dd13b10$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Jochen, > look at screenshots of the next Alpha here: > http://www.valentina-db.de/vStudio Nice work. I'm looking forward to 1.0a50, Rob From j.peters at valentina-db.de Thu Apr 29 19:22:16 2004 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Apr 29 12:22:27 2004 Subject: [Valentina-studio] comments on UI of Studio Win 1.0a49 In-Reply-To: <005501c42df9$2dd13b10$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> References: <4090B747.2060205@xi.be> <3F2DC7D4-99C1-11D8-AFF7-003065488610@valentina-db.de> <005501c42df9$2dd13b10$4c00a8c0@vbp.visualbook.com> Message-ID: Hi Rob, >> look at screenshots of the next Alpha here: >> http://www.valentina-db.de/vStudio > > Nice work. I'm looking forward to 1.0a50, Thanks. That is just the beginning. I am sure that we will get a much nicer GUI soon - including new icons and overall design. I am working mainly on GUI issues right now. I want to make it much more better than now - that's the reason why i have not yet released a50. -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH ------------------------------------ http://www.valentina-db.de