From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 2 12:15:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 2 04:16:58 2006 Subject: Collections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/2/06 11:59 AM, "Philip M?tteli" wrote: Hi Philip, >> Yes, but for collections we MUST NOT use BLOBs of course. >> >> I consider 2 types of collections: >> b) collection which keep in fact pointers to other objects. >> >> In relational model such info mirrored as third table to do M:M link. >> >> In Valentina we offer new feature: BinaryLink. > > Some questions: > > - Why do you call them "Binary Links"? Because we have on top level abstraction link. Link do links 2 or more tables in theory. Valentina 2 have links for 2 tables for now. This is why BinaryLinks. Actually we have here little collision. We have hierarchy of classes as: VLink VLink_2 ForeignKey ObjectPtr BinaryLink VLink_N -- not implemented So Link_2 is top abstraction of any link between 2 tables. BinaryLink - is some particular link. > - That's a coincidence, that on page 17 of VKernel, every BinaryLink > also has an attribute in T(1)? Do you mean pict. M : M links using Binary Link ? No. a1, a2 -- this are custom fields of table T1. This is not attributes of BinaryLink. > - So I could make a table, that has no attribute at all, but many > BinaryLinks to many records in many tables, even including to records > of itself? Well, "table, that has no attribute at all" -- this is prohibited construction from relational point of view. Technically we can do this it seems. And probably AddRecord() will work. Such table has only bitmap of deleted records...But I think we have never try this :-) > - BinaryLinks are like BLOBs or VarBinaries not fixed in its length/ > numbers? BinaryLinks are NOT BLOBs in any way. You can think about them as old good known MM table with 2 fields [ ptr_A, ptrB ] Difference is only in internal structures, and, of course, that DBMS know it not as table but link. Think in next way: BinaryLink is array of pairs (ptr1, ptr2). it can have ANY number of such pairs. it can do effective searches. > - Does every BinaryLink of every record has a separate name or do > have all BinaryLinks of a table have the same name? Second. Let You have Table "Person" and "Phones". Now you create new BinaryLink "PersoHasPhones". > I think, it would help me, if I had some C++ header files now. You can download them at http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/VSDK -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 2 13:18:29 2006 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Mon Jan 2 05:19:43 2006 Subject: Please, ignore it. Message-ID: <1886419785.20060102131829@public.kherson.ua> Hello, Test -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:IvanSmahin@public.kherson.ua [Everything is possible. The impossible just takes longer.] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Mon Jan 2 20:18:39 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Mon Jan 2 22:19:56 2006 Subject: V4REV GetDatabaseFormatVersion crash Message-ID: Hi, I was testing the 2.1 b1 beta for V4REV and found that Valentina_GetDatabaseFormatVersion() crashes Revolution every time on OS X.4 using Rev 2.6.1. The 2.0.5 function Valentina_GetDatabaseVersion() works correctly (no longer in 2.1.x). Are there plans to release a newer V4REV 2.1.x beta anytime soon? I'm stuck in that I need some of the functions that are in 2.1 (not in 2.0.5) but my app needs to be able to detect 1.x dbs in order to convert them. Thanks, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 09:17:35 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 01:18:54 2006 Subject: V4REV GetDatabaseFormatVersion crash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 6:18 AM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > Hi, > > I was testing the 2.1 b1 beta for V4REV and found that > Valentina_GetDatabaseFormatVersion() crashes Revolution every time on > OS X.4 using Rev 2.6.1. The 2.0.5 function > Valentina_GetDatabaseVersion() works correctly (no longer in 2.1.x). > > Are there plans to release a newer V4REV 2.1.x beta anytime soon? > I'm stuck in that I need some of the functions that are in 2.1 (not > in 2.0.5) but my app needs to be able to detect 1.x dbs in order to > convert them. Yes, today will be fc3 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 11:06:13 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 03:08:07 2006 Subject: Correlation function In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/23/05 10:33 AM, "? ??" wrote: Hi Kim, Ivan have implement 3 new functions in Valentina SQL: correlation, STDDEV, STDDEV_POP Today or tomorrow should be 2.1 fc3 build which will contains this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Tue Jan 3 13:18:47 2006 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Tue Jan 3 06:20:33 2006 Subject: V4MD next upload Message-ID: <000801c6105f$e9d31460$4e2d3897@paolof61yi6d5z> Hi Ruslan, when you think to upload a new beta for V4MD? Last beta is dated Nov 2, 2005 :-) and I wait for some fixed bugs. Thanks Paolo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060103/7177a076/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 14:54:08 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 06:55:26 2006 Subject: V4MD next upload In-Reply-To: <000801c6105f$e9d31460$4e2d3897@paolof61yi6d5z> Message-ID: On 1/3/06 2:18 PM, "info@vallemediatime.com" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > when you think to upload a new beta for V4MD? > Last beta is dated Nov 2, 2005 :-) and I wait for some fixed bugs. :-) so why you keep silent?! I am starting to produce fc3 build for most products. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From info at vallemediatime.com Tue Jan 3 13:59:31 2006 From: info at vallemediatime.com (info@vallemediatime.com) Date: Tue Jan 3 07:00:47 2006 Subject: V4MD next upload References: Message-ID: <001001c61065$89a151f0$061f3897@paolof61yi6d5z> > :-) so why you keep silent?! oh, I'm working in others more simple project :-) > I am starting to produce fc3 build for most products. very good! Thanks Paolo From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 17:53:16 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 09:54:35 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta You can download builds 2.1 fc4 of the following products: MAC WIN V4RB + + V4MD + + V4REV + + VServer + + VCOM - + VNET - + VSDK . . Vkenel - 2.1 ============ - 0001183: [Diagnose] Add more information about VObjectPtr to DIAGNOSE reports (Ivan Smahin) - 0001211: [Indexes] GROUP BY and DISTINCT produce wrong results on column with big groups of the same values. (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001206: [API] VarChar fields added by SQL are not nullable (Ivan Smahin) - 0001171: [Database] DeleteAllRecords crashes (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001204: [Database] SchemaVersion not saved if the application crashes. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001215: [Feature Request] Added 3 new aggregation functions STDDEV_POP(), COVAR(), CORR(). (Ivan Smahin) VServer - 2.1 ============= - 0001214: [Other] VCursor::UpdateAllRecords() and VCursor::DeleteAllRecords() are not implemented. (Ivan Smahin) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Ed at Kleban.com Tue Jan 3 10:03:57 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:05:17 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow! A beta release announcement that includes: 1) A URL so you can find the code 2) Coverage across all the platforms 3) A listing (albeit obscure) of issues that were addressed in the release. Fantastic! A big step up. Thanks Ruslan. --Ed On 1/3/06 9:53 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Hi All, > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > You can download builds 2.1 fc4 of the following products: > > MAC WIN > > V4RB + + > V4MD + + > V4REV + + > VServer + + > VCOM - + > VNET - + > VSDK . . > > > > Vkenel - 2.1 > ============ > - 0001183: [Diagnose] Add more information about VObjectPtr to DIAGNOSE > reports (Ivan Smahin) > > - 0001211: [Indexes] GROUP BY and DISTINCT produce wrong results on column > with big groups of the same values. (Ruslan Zasukhin) > > - 0001206: [API] VarChar fields added by SQL are not nullable (Ivan Smahin) > > - 0001171: [Database] DeleteAllRecords crashes (Ruslan Zasukhin) > > - 0001204: [Database] SchemaVersion not saved if the application crashes. > (Ivan Smahin) > > - 0001215: [Feature Request] Added 3 new aggregation functions STDDEV_POP(), > COVAR(), CORR(). (Ivan Smahin) > > > VServer - 2.1 > ============= > - 0001214: [Other] VCursor::UpdateAllRecords() and > VCursor::DeleteAllRecords() are not implemented. (Ivan Smahin) > > From jda at his.com Tue Jan 3 11:14:51 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:16:09 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, The fc4 plugin crashes RB 2006 on launch. Log is Thread 0 Crashed: 0 Plugin 0x06f124a8 0x6ec2000 + 328872 1 Plugin 0x06ee3da0 PluginEntry + 28 2 Plugin 0x06ec81d0 main + 100 3 Plugin 0x051e4884 0x51c5000 + 129156 4 Plugin 0x051e4c84 0x51c5000 + 130180 5 Plugin 0x051e2fc8 0x51c5000 + 122824 6 Plugin 0x051c8828 0x51c5000 + 14376 7 main 0x022968d0 0x2008000 + 2681040 Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 18:18:12 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:19:28 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 6:14 PM, "jda" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > The fc4 plugin crashes RB 2006 on launch. Log is > > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 Plugin 0x06f124a8 0x6ec2000 + 328872 > 1 Plugin 0x06ee3da0 PluginEntry + 28 > 2 Plugin 0x06ec81d0 main + 100 > 3 Plugin 0x051e4884 0x51c5000 + 129156 > 4 Plugin 0x051e4c84 0x51c5000 + 130180 > 5 Plugin 0x051e2fc8 0x51c5000 + 122824 > 6 Plugin 0x051c8828 0x51c5000 + 14376 > 7 main 0x022968d0 0x2008000 + 2681040 With RB 2005 no problems here. Anybody else ? Jon, make sure you do clean install. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Tue Jan 3 17:23:36 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:24:57 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <722C77B9-04CB-4E48-A5C0-9015851C0794@mac.com> As far as I know RB2006 can only produce Mach-O. Am I wrong? It is because some new addition like the new SSL is Mach-O (no PEF code yet). I am doing all my tests in RB2006 in Mach-O right now. ~/Stan > Hi Ruslan, > > The fc4 plugin crashes RB 2006 on launch. Log is > > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 Plugin 0x06f124a8 0x6ec2000 + 328872 > 1 Plugin 0x06ee3da0 PluginEntry + 28 > 2 Plugin 0x06ec81d0 main + 100 > 3 Plugin 0x051e4884 0x51c5000 + 129156 > 4 Plugin 0x051e4c84 0x51c5000 + 130180 > 5 Plugin 0x051e2fc8 0x51c5000 + 122824 > 6 Plugin 0x051c8828 0x51c5000 + 14376 > 7 main 0x022968d0 0x2008000 + 2681040 > > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Tue Jan 3 11:28:55 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:30:13 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: <722C77B9-04CB-4E48-A5C0-9015851C0794@mac.com> References: <722C77B9-04CB-4E48-A5C0-9015851C0794@mac.com> Message-ID: >As far as I know RB2006 can only produce Mach-O. Am I wrong? Yes. It produces PEF, too. Jon From jda at his.com Tue Jan 3 11:30:43 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:32:02 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > >With RB 2005 no problems here. RB2005 crashes for me, too. > >Anybody else ? > >Jon, make sure you do clean install. > I replaced the fc4 plugin with fc3 and RB launched fine. (I'm not talking about compiling or anything, simply launching RB). Jon From ktekinay at mactechnologies.com Tue Jan 3 11:34:04 2006 From: ktekinay at mactechnologies.com (Kem Tekinay) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:35:21 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 11:14 AM, jda at jda@his.com wrote: > The fc4 plugin crashes RB 2006 on launch. Same here. __________________________________________________________________________ Kem Tekinay (212) 201-1465 MacTechnologies Consulting Fax (914) 242-7294 545 Eighth Avenue, Suite 401 Pager (917) 491-5546 New York, New York 10018 http://www.mactechnologies.com To join the MacTechnologies Consulting mailing list, send an e-mail to: mactechnologies_consulting-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Ed at Kleban.com Tue Jan 3 10:34:23 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:35:41 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I believe the inability to generate PEF was only a temporary limitation while they were working out some bugs in one of the earlier beta versions of what is now being called RB2006. On 1/3/06 10:28 AM, "jda" wrote: >> As far as I know RB2006 can only produce Mach-O. Am I wrong? > > Yes. It produces PEF, too. > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Tue Jan 3 17:42:01 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:43:20 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F78B951-CC3F-4ADE-AD23-6DC1BB6A2A7A@mac.com> Yes, in fact RB2005 also crashes... >> >> >> >> With RB 2005 no problems here. > > RB2005 crashes for me, too. > >> >> Anybody else ? >> >> Jon, make sure you do clean install. >> > > I replaced the fc4 plugin with fc3 and RB launched fine. > > (I'm not talking about compiling or anything, simply launching RB). > > Jon > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 18:48:15 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:49:32 2006 Subject: V4RB mac 2.1 fc4 broken In-Reply-To: <2F78B951-CC3F-4ADE-AD23-6DC1BB6A2A7A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/3/06 6:42 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: I see problem. Into archive have go V4RB fc3 plugin. Fixing ... One moment -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ktekinay at mactechnologies.com Tue Jan 3 11:52:54 2006 From: ktekinay at mactechnologies.com (Kem Tekinay) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:54:10 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: <2F78B951-CC3F-4ADE-AD23-6DC1BB6A2A7A@mac.com> Message-ID: FYI, I trashed the Vcomponents folder and the plugin, reinstalled and tried again. Same crash on launch. I don't have fc3 to compare. __________________________________________________________________________ Kem Tekinay (212) 201-1465 MacTechnologies Consulting Fax (914) 242-7294 545 Eighth Avenue, Suite 401 Pager (917) 491-5546 New York, New York 10018 http://www.mactechnologies.com To join the MacTechnologies Consulting mailing list, send an e-mail to: mactechnologies_consulting-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 18:54:37 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 10:55:55 2006 Subject: FIXED: V4RB 2.1 fc4 Message-ID: Hi V4RB developers, Please try fixed archive of fc4 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ktekinay at mactechnologies.com Tue Jan 3 12:45:43 2006 From: ktekinay at mactechnologies.com (Kem Tekinay) Date: Tue Jan 3 11:46:59 2006 Subject: FIXED: V4RB 2.1 fc4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 11:54 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin at sunshine@public.kherson.ua wrote: > Please try fixed archive of fc4 I can get into RB now. I haven't tried the new plugin though. BTW, is the general belief that the corruption problems that affected the earlier versions are gone? I'm talking about databases that become unusable after a crash, for example. __________________________________________________________________________ Kem Tekinay (212) 201-1465 MacTechnologies Consulting Fax (914) 242-7294 545 Eighth Avenue, Suite 401 Pager (917) 491-5546 New York, New York 10018 http://www.mactechnologies.com To join the MacTechnologies Consulting mailing list, send an e-mail to: mactechnologies_consulting-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 20:03:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 12:04:57 2006 Subject: FIXED: V4RB 2.1 fc4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 7:45 PM, "Kem Tekinay" wrote: >> Please try fixed archive of fc4 > > I can get into RB now. I haven't tried the new plugin though. > > BTW, is the general belief that the corruption problems that affected the > earlier versions are gone? I'm talking about databases that become unusable > after a crash, for example. We here MANY times during many hours did crash tests projects. No corruptions. Try to get one, then teach us how to if you can get it. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue Jan 3 10:58:34 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue Jan 3 12:59:51 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74B51380-1D32-4096-8010-53E9FEFCFE46@mangomultimedia.com> Thanks Ruslan. The V4REV database version info works now. Question - I've seen mention on the list of a function for setting the location of where the contents of the VComponents folder contents should be searched for. Is that in 2.1 or are we still waiting on that? I would really like to move the VComponents files (on Mac and Win) into my regular directory structure. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 3 21:23:17 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 3 13:24:36 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: <74B51380-1D32-4096-8010-53E9FEFCFE46@mangomultimedia.com> Message-ID: On 1/3/06 8:58 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: Hi Trevor, > Thanks Ruslan. The V4REV database version info works now. o > Question - I've seen mention on the list of a function for setting > the location of where the contents of the VComponents folder contents > should be searched for. Is that in 2.1 or are we still waiting on that? That was only discussion of idea. > I would really like to move the VComponents files (on Mac and Win) > into my regular directory structure. I think you can right now V4REV is MACHO. Note, that right now you install Vcomponents inside of Rev.app package. Right ? Just COPY VComponents into build of YOUR app package. Actually this is the only way to deploy Revolution + V4REV2 made apps. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Tue Jan 3 11:56:05 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Tue Jan 3 13:57:22 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> I would really like to move the VComponents files (on Mac and Win) >> into my regular directory structure. > > I think you can right now > > V4REV is MACHO. > > Note, that right now you install Vcomponents inside of Rev.app > package. > Right ? Yes. > Just COPY VComponents into build of YOUR app package. > > Actually this is the only way to deploy Revolution + V4REV2 made apps. This I can do without problem. The ideal would be that I could have a structure like this on Windows: ./Myapp.exe ./Resources (folder) ./Resources/externals/V4REV_win.dll ./Resources/externals/VComponents/ My apps are designed so that they can update themselves over the internet without quitting the application. The exe is a stub executable that launches the Revolution stack files found in the "Resources" folder. Sometimes the "Resources" folder is located in the same directory as the application (Program Files/My App). Other times it might be located in an area that a non-admin user has write access to. Being able to keep all Valentina files neatly organized in the Resources folder and in an area that is writable by non-admin users would be very beneficial. Being able to call the following would be very nice: Valentina_SetVComponentsPath "C:/Path/ToResources/Vcomponents/Folder/" -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From Claudius at sailer-online.de Wed Jan 4 11:54:47 2006 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Wed Jan 4 04:56:08 2006 Subject: Reg-Key for viSQL Message-ID: <30CAD8D2-0532-4E79-9E50-C697F59EB2C6@sailer-online.de> Hi, it would be a good thing, when we could get a constant in app or a special modul (without value), what we can looking for and insert there my V4RB2 RegCode. That I don't have to search always for Valentina.Init. Thanks a lot. Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2005r4/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 4 18:50:53 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 4 11:52:18 2006 Subject: Convert_v1_v2 extremely slow on Windows Message-ID: <61B119C3-6DD2-4D18-A449-CDE3373A48AB@mac.com> Hi, Today I made my first tests on Windows converting v1 file to v2. It works but it is very slow. On Mac, it takes 7 seconds. On Windows, it takes 180 seconds (3 minutes) The file is small, 1.8 Mb, about 1300 records, a dozen of tables. Is there a reason for such x60 difference? The PC is A P4/2Ghz. The Mac is a Quad 2.5 Ghz. Stan From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 4 18:59:51 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 4 12:01:13 2006 Subject: Exception when closing app on Windows Message-ID: <30394710-FBE8-47EF-AD04-1A49074E5BC3@mac.com> Hi, I always get an exception when closing my app on Windows. The tipical 'myApp has encountered a problem and needs to close...'. I forgot to say in my previous message, I use V4RB, last fc4. Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 4 21:37:28 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 4 13:38:49 2006 Subject: Collections In-Reply-To: <3756AF0C-B066-4DF2-ABEC-C870B07F7632@econophone.ch> Message-ID: On 1/4/06 9:20 PM, "Philip M?tteli" wrote: Hi Philip, > Am 03.01.2006 um 10:56 schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: >> On 1/3/06 9:35 AM, "Philip M?tteli" >> wrote: >> >> VDK_ this is classes from VSDK 1.x >> >> Again, you need check archive on page: >> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/VSDK >> >> VSDK MAC 2.1 b14 >> >> >> Here you should be able find folder sources >> And there find path >> >> sources/FBL/publ/Interfaces > Yes, I found it. Thanks. > > Perhaps I'm missing something. But where should I put those headers? > In /usr/local/include? What's the idea behind it? Well, installation of VSDK for MAC is next: * you put folder VSDK in any place on your disk * then you copy items of folder "/usr/local/lib" into that location, i.e. You get /usr/local/lib/vcomponents this folder contains dlls * you DO NOT have to copy sources and headers into /usr/local/include Instead simply set in your Xcode project path to folder VSDK/sources. so xcode will see headers. * also you need add to xcode project dlls from VComponents folder, so you will be able link. You can look into VSDK/Examples xcode project to see what dlls to drop into xcode project. > Anyway, thanks to all the types of links, Valentina offers, I think, > I will succeed in writing this interface. Glad to hear this. And I will in rush to add Links with order. > I propose, that I start to design and implement it. Great! > I usually apply an incremental development > process, so I could actually start right now. Ok, ask me any questions. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 4 21:43:02 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 4 13:44:25 2006 Subject: [ANN] 2.1 fc4 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/06 9:56 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: Hi Trevor, I see, you ask about windows. Problem on this way is that Windows do search dlls in the Application folder, and do NOT search its sub-folders. So it seems the way only implement some kind of manual location and load of require dlls. >> Just COPY VComponents into build of YOUR app package. >> >> Actually this is the only way to deploy Revolution + V4REV2 made apps. > > This I can do without problem. > > The ideal would be that I could have a structure like this on Windows: > > ./Myapp.exe > ./Resources (folder) > ./Resources/externals/V4REV_win.dll > ./Resources/externals/VComponents/ > > My apps are designed so that they can update themselves over the > internet without quitting the application. The exe is a stub > executable that launches the Revolution stack files found in the > "Resources" folder. Sometimes the "Resources" folder is located in > the same directory as the application (Program Files/My App). Other > times it might be located in an area that a non-admin user has write > access to. > > Being able to keep all Valentina files neatly organized in the > Resources folder and in an area that is writable by non-admin users > would be very beneficial. Being able to call the following would be > very nice: > > Valentina_SetVComponentsPath "C:/Path/ToResources/Vcomponents/Folder/" -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 4 21:43:56 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 4 13:45:16 2006 Subject: Convert_v1_v2 extremely slow on Windows In-Reply-To: <61B119C3-6DD2-4D18-A449-CDE3373A48AB@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/4/06 7:50 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, > Today I made my first tests on Windows converting v1 file to v2. It > works but it is very slow. > > On Mac, it takes 7 seconds. > On Windows, it takes 180 seconds (3 minutes) > > The file is small, 1.8 Mb, about 1300 records, a dozen of tables. > > Is there a reason for such x60 difference? No reasons. Can you send us this 1.8 mb file ? > The PC is A P4/2Ghz. The Mac is a Quad 2.5 Ghz. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 4 21:44:42 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 4 13:46:02 2006 Subject: Exception when closing app on Windows In-Reply-To: <30394710-FBE8-47EF-AD04-1A49074E5BC3@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/4/06 7:59 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > I always get an exception when closing my app on Windows. The tipical > 'myApp has encountered a problem and needs to close...'. > > I forgot to say in my previous message, I use V4RB, last fc4. I recommend to set ON the log file And see what method of Valentina throw exception. I think that may be you have not set nil some db or cursor -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 4 22:05:36 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 4 15:07:01 2006 Subject: Convert_v1_v2 extremely slow on Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is another file that takes 130s on Windows and is almost instantaneous on the Mac: http://www.maxprog.com/misc/valentina/TestFile.zip It is a fresh file created with v1 version of my app. ~/Stan > On 1/4/06 7:50 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > Hi Stan, > >> Today I made my first tests on Windows converting v1 file to v2. It >> works but it is very slow. >> >> On Mac, it takes 7 seconds. >> On Windows, it takes 180 seconds (3 minutes) >> >> The file is small, 1.8 Mb, about 1300 records, a dozen of tables. >> >> Is there a reason for such x60 difference? > > No reasons. > > Can you send us this 1.8 mb file ? > > >> The PC is A P4/2Ghz. The Mac is a Quad 2.5 Ghz. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Jan 5 11:00:58 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 5 03:02:22 2006 Subject: [VSDK] Collections In-Reply-To: <1376CDDA-CF6E-4745-9884-4A7901980DDF@econophone.ch> Message-ID: On 1/5/06 10:45 AM, "Philip M?tteli" wrote: >>> Have you chosen this distribution and format, because it helps your >>> cross platform ambitions? >> >> Valentina Engine is made from several DLLs. >> 3 own dlls and several IBM ICU unicode library. >> >> Dlls must go into place where OS X see them. This is /usr/local/lib >> can be some other places, e.g. In home. >> >> Sources -- here nothing special, right ? > > On the Mac, the usual way to distribute libraries, headers and other > resources are in the form of frameworks, e. g. "/System/Library/ > Frameworks/AppKit.framework". > In my eyes, this is much easier and it allows for very easy > versioning too. > Of course you can only do that, if you have access to the sources. I see what you mean. We did have framework in v1 Then you are right, framework cause problems if you do cross-platform library. All is okay with framework if you do only it. Problem is that framework require #include style. But e.g. Windows need notmal style. To resolve this in v1 we did use #ifdef for all headers in each pubilic file. This was nightmare. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Thu Jan 5 12:43:51 2006 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Thu Jan 5 13:45:24 2006 Subject: Reg-Key for viSQL In-Reply-To: <30CAD8D2-0532-4E79-9E50-C697F59EB2C6@sailer-online.de> References: <30CAD8D2-0532-4E79-9E50-C697F59EB2C6@sailer-online.de> Message-ID: Hi Claudius, On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:54 AM, Claudius Sailer wrote: > it would be a good thing, when we could get a constant in app or a > special modul (without value), what we can looking for and insert > there my V4RB2 RegCode. That I don't have to search always for > Valentina.Init. I was thinking of adding some code to look for a particular text file with the key in it, but otherwise I have no problem with searching for Valentina.Init - it only appears once. Also, wouldn't you have to search for the special constant or module anyway? Best regards, Frank Schima I'm currently job hunting: From Ed at Kleban.com Thu Jan 5 14:32:02 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Thu Jan 5 14:33:25 2006 Subject: Reg-Key for viSQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not sure I follow this discussion or what it is you're trying to do... make it easy so you don't have to do excessive work to add your valentina serial number to each new project you start? Or am I missing something here. Regardless, I'd like to offer a plug for a great little tool I discovered that you can use to easily your Valentina (or any other) serial number obscure so others can't easily obtain it by scanning your compiled source code: http://www.truenorthsoftware.com/Realbasic/Obfuscate.html Obfuscate (version 1.1) Obfuscate is a program to render obscure a string of text within REALbasic compiled code. Anyone scanning your code with a hex editor will not be able to pick out what you are trying to hide in the code without a lot of work. Use Obfuscate for serial numbers and other key information. System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.2 or later Windows 2000/XP or later Price: Obfuscate is free. Enjoy! On 1/5/06 1:43 PM, "Frank Schima" wrote: > Hi Claudius, > > > On Jan 4, 2006, at 3:54 AM, Claudius Sailer wrote: > >> it would be a good thing, when we could get a constant in app or a >> special modul (without value), what we can looking for and insert >> there my V4RB2 RegCode. That I don't have to search always for >> Valentina.Init. > > I was thinking of adding some code to look for a particular text file > with the key in it, but otherwise I have no problem with searching > for Valentina.Init - it only appears once. Also, wouldn't you have to > search for the special constant or module anyway? > > > Best regards, > Frank Schima > > I'm currently job hunting: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 6 02:45:04 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 5 18:46:28 2006 Subject: Article about SQL, API and Class styles of coding Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:doc umentation:en:articles:choosing_a_style_of_coding At last of end I have spent few hours to write this draft article where are described and compared styles of coding that Valentina supports. It is not completed yet. I still have many points to mention. But I hope, right now it can help better understand styles. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 6 11:22:23 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 6 03:23:49 2006 Subject: Reg-Key for viSQL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/5/06 10:32 PM, "Ed Kleban" wrote: Hi Ed, Okay, I have put this into Valentina WIKI http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:pro ducts:v4rb:how_to_hide_serial_number > Regardless, I'd like to offer a plug for a great little tool I discovered > that you can use to easily your Valentina (or any other) serial number > obscure so others can't easily obtain it by scanning your compiled source > code: > > http://www.truenorthsoftware.com/Realbasic/Obfuscate.html > > Obfuscate (version 1.1) > > Obfuscate is a program to render obscure a string of text within REALbasic > compiled code. Anyone scanning your code with a hex editor will not be able > to pick out what you are trying to hide in the code without a lot of work. > Use Obfuscate for serial numbers and other key information. > > System Requirements: > Mac OS X 10.2 or later > Windows 2000/XP or later > > Price: Obfuscate is free. Enjoy! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Fri Jan 6 08:56:02 2006 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Fri Jan 6 09:57:33 2006 Subject: Reg-Key for viSQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5126B349-5BB1-46ED-B800-B64A89B3C91C@goodeast.com> Hi Ed, On Jan 5, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Ed Kleban wrote: > I'm not sure I follow this discussion or what it is you're trying > to do... > make it easy so you don't have to do excessive work to add your > valentina > serial number to each new project you start? Or am I missing > something > here. Claudius is referring to the specific application ViSQL which I originally made a long time ago. Best regards, Frank Schima I'm currently job hunting: From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 6 21:48:18 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 6 13:49:44 2006 Subject: [ANN] VSDK MAC 2.1 fc5 Message-ID: Hi C++ developers, You can download VSDK MAC build 2.1 fc5. This build have installer which self - installs VComponents folder into /usr/local/lib location - VSDK folder into HOME directory. So everything must be easy, and VSDK_Examples project must work from the box. Let me know if any problems. ----- Justin, in the sources/Vkernel/Vkernel.h you can find functions that you need for Valentina for Cocoa. Btw, Justin, fc5 is about 20-25% faster, so please confirm us this :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 10 11:57:21 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 10 03:59:00 2006 Subject: [ANN] Valentina Studio fc3 uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, Please test fc3 of Vstudio. - 0001157: [Import/Export] Export wizards shows wrong bitmap (Andrey Mezheninov) - 0001195: [Table Browser] Data Browser Window Title (Andrey Mezheninov) - 0001231: [Property Inspector] Now show Formula of Method fields. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001227: [Dialogs] Cannot create field with some types ( unsigned short for example ) (Igor Nikitin) - 0001226: [Application Menu] Refresh problem of main window after maximize (Igor Nikitin) - 0001219: [VServer connection] Crash when close window "Server monitor" (Igor Nikitin) - 0001208: [Structure Browser] [NEW] Double click on table will open Data Browser. (Andrey Mezheninov) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060110/5f8edc6d/attachment-0001.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 10 22:02:21 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 10 14:04:00 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 Message-ID: Hi All, Hi Trevor, Trevor you have ask about ability to deploy app on windows as MyApplicationFolder Myapp.exe VComponents We have got one idea. It is possible to force windows to load dlls from that VComponents folder simply by adding PATH to that folder. If this looks okay, then only we need yet, really specify for API, Function which tell engine where to search for icu dat file and xml error files. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Thu Jan 12 09:18:09 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Thu Jan 12 11:19:48 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Trevor you have ask about ability to deploy app on windows as > > MyApplicationFolder > Myapp.exe > VComponents > > We have got one idea. > > It is possible to force windows to load dlls from that VComponents > folder > simply by adding PATH to that folder. > > If this looks okay, then only we need yet, really specify for API, > Function which tell engine where to search for icu dat file and xml > error > files. Being able to specify that folder to look in for the components would be great. I would assume the same could be done for OS X as well? Most applications would include VComponents in the application bundle but there are situations where this is not the case. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 00:39:13 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 12 16:41:00 2006 Subject: Stand by please.... fc4 is coming Message-ID: Hi All, In nearest 30 minutes I will upload V4RB 2.1 fc4 * we have improve engine to work on get_Field(name) getTable(name) on 15% * and we have made another optimization, that give 7% So I think most developer should see 15-20% speed up in the fc4, Especially who use SQL * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small results. So you can see faster UNIONS now. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 01:06:53 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 12 17:08:38 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/13/06 12:39 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: Hi All again, Actually this is V4RB 2.1 fc5 build. http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta * we have improve engine to work on get_Field(name) getTable(name) on 15% * and we have made another optimization, that gives another 7% So I think most developer should see 15-20% speed up in the fc5, Especially who use SQL * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small results. So you can see faster UNIONS now. * fixed nasty bug introduced in fc4 with db names without extensions. P.S. Jochen, we need Vstudio based on fc5 asap. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 01:08:39 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 12 17:10:23 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/12/06 7:18 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: Hi Trevor, > On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> Trevor you have ask about ability to deploy app on windows as >> >> MyApplicationFolder >> Myapp.exe >> VComponents >> >> We have got one idea. >> >> It is possible to force windows to load dlls from that VComponents >> folder >> simply by adding PATH to that folder. >> >> If this looks okay, then only we need yet, really specify for API, >> Function which tell engine where to search for icu dat file and xml >> error >> files. > > Being able to specify that folder to look in for the components would > be great. I would assume the same could be done for OS X as well? In general yes > Most applications would include VComponents in the application bundle > but there are situations where this is not the case. And what you think about here ? Where you want to put VComponents in this case ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Thu Jan 12 15:23:55 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Thu Jan 12 17:25:39 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 12, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> Most applications would include VComponents in the application bundle >> but there are situations where this is not the case. > > And what you think about here ? > > Where you want to put VComponents in this case ? For one application they would go in a "resource/VComponent" folder in the same folder as the app bundle. We do this for various reasons having to do with how CDs are burned to distribute the executable. I might also want to put the components in user writeable area so that the engine could be updated over the internet without the user having to download an updater. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From j.peters at valentina-db.de Fri Jan 13 06:24:11 2006 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Thu Jan 12 23:25:48 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18896.62.154.199.179.1137129851.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> > > P.S. Jochen, we need Vstudio based on fc5 asap. Ok - i will prepare a new build later this day! -- Best regards, Jochen Peters PIIT GmbH -------------------------- http://www.valentina-db.de From Claudius at sailer-online.de Fri Jan 13 06:36:19 2006 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Thu Jan 12 23:37:59 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Am 13. Jan 2006 um 00:06 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: > > - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, > - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small results. > So you can see faster UNIONS now. really great. I have now 30% more speed in my problematic SQL. Thanks bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2006r1/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.1 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 10:28:36 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 13 02:30:23 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/13/06 7:36 AM, "Claudius Sailer" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > Am 13. Jan 2006 um 00:06 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > >> * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: >> >> - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, >> - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small results. >> So you can see faster UNIONS now. > > really great. I have now 30% more speed in my problematic SQL. Thanks Excellent! So you can CLOSE your reports in mantis about bugs and performance. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Fri Jan 13 10:47:33 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Fri Jan 13 09:49:14 2006 Subject: New crash in fc5 beta In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ruslan, This line did not cause problems before, but now crashes in vshared: call vdb.Table("thereferences").CreateTextField("allFields", 128, EVFlag.fNullable + EVFlag.fIndexed + EVFlag.fIndexByWords,_ "CONCAT(IFNULL(authors,''),' ',IFNULL(title,''),' ',IFNULL(editors,''),' ',IFNULL(journal,''),' ',IFNULL(volume,''),' ',IFNULL(pages,''),' ',IFNULL(thedate,''),' ',IFNULL(publisher,''),' ', IFNULL(location,''),' ',IFNULL(url,''),' ',IFNULL(title2,''),' ',IFNULL(user1,''),' ',IFNULL(user2,''),' ',IFNULL(user3,''),' ',IFNULL(user4,''),' ',IFNULL(abstract,''),' ',IFNULL(keywords,''),' ',IFNULL(notes,''),' ',IFNULL(user5,''),' ',IFNULL(user6,''),' ',IFNULL(user7,''),' ',IFNULL(user8,''),' ',IFNULL(user9,''),' ',IFNULL(user10,''),' ',IFNULL(user11,''),' ',IFNULL(user12,''),' ',IFNULL(user13,''),' ',IFNULL(user14,''),' ',IFNULL(user15,''),' ',IFNULL(user16,''),' ')" ) Here is a crash log Thread 0 Crashed: 0 vshared_carbon_cw.shlb 0x048c6170 0x489f000 + 160112 1 vshared_carbon_cw.shlb 0x048d57b4 0x489f000 + 223156 2 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a9ad94 Find__Q23fbl7HashMapCFPCwl + 172 3 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a9ac64 get_Field__Q23fbl10Record_ImpCFPCw + 44 4 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a49488 get_FieldEx_Internal__Q23fbl5TableCFPCw + 36 5 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a493cc get_Field__Q23fbl5TableCFPCw + 36 6 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a49538 get_Field__Q23fbl5TableCFRCQ23fbl6String + 72 7 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04998f70 CreateFieldInstance__3fblFQ23fbl25smart_ptrRCQ23fbl6StringUlUsQ23fbl39smart_ptr + 76 8 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x04a49b3c CreateField__Q23fbl5TableFPCwUlUsQ23fbl39smart_ptr + 148 9 Plugin Jon From Claudius at sailer-online.de Fri Jan 13 20:40:26 2006 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Fri Jan 13 13:42:09 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24FA5CC3-C383-4FF2-842E-808B15A82293@sailer-online.de> Am 13. Jan 2006 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > On 1/13/06 7:36 AM, "Claudius Sailer" > wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> Am 13. Jan 2006 um 00:06 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: >> >>> * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: >>> >>> - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, >>> - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small >>> results. >>> So you can see faster UNIONS now. >> >> really great. I have now 30% more speed in my problematic SQL. Thanks > > Excellent! > > So you can CLOSE your reports in mantis about bugs and performance. As I can see correct you have to close it and I can support this ;-)) bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2006r1/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.1 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 22:53:47 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 13 14:55:27 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/13/06 1:23 AM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: Hi Trevor, >>> Most applications would include VComponents in the application bundle >>> but there are situations where this is not the case. >> >> And what you think about here ? >> >> Where you want to put VComponents in this case ? > > For one application they would go in a "resource/VComponent" folder > in the same folder as the app bundle. But how this differ App.app/Contents/Resources/VComponents from App.app/Contents/VComponents ? The last is what you have now. App.app/Contents/VComponents > We do this for various reasons > having to do with how CDs are burned to distribute the executable. I > might also want to put the components in user writeable area so that > the engine could be updated over the internet without the user having > to download an updater. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 23:01:00 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 13 15:02:43 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VSDK 2.1 fc6 uploaded Message-ID: * fixed bug introduced with fc5 with hash map. * fixed few glitches in VSDK exmaples -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lists at mangomultimedia.com Fri Jan 13 13:28:14 2006 From: lists at mangomultimedia.com (Trevor DeVore) Date: Fri Jan 13 15:29:55 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 13, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 1/13/06 1:23 AM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: > > Hi Trevor, > >>>> Most applications would include VComponents in the application >>>> bundle >>>> but there are situations where this is not the case. >>> >>> And what you think about here ? >>> >>> Where you want to put VComponents in this case ? >> >> For one application they would go in a "resource/VComponent" folder >> in the same folder as the app bundle. > > But how this differ > > App.app/Contents/Resources/VComponents > from > App.app/Contents/VComponents > ? > > The last is what you have now. > App.app/Contents/VComponents The folder structure would actually be myapp.app resource/Vcomponent The resource folder is at the same level as the app bundle. I also might want to put VComponents in ~/Library/Application/MyApp/VComponents If I have a suite of apps that all rely on Valentina I wouldn't want each app bundle to have to install Vcomponents. That is a lot of extra mega bytes. In this case I want VComponents somewhere where all of MY apps can share it. I say MY apps because I want to control the version that is installed and that I have tested with. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia trevor@mangomultimedia.com From maxprog at mac.com Fri Jan 13 22:52:21 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Fri Jan 13 15:54:02 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored Message-ID: <51F2A0A1-B98D-47C3-8520-129EDAEBE690@mac.com> Hi, Ruslan, this is related to the bug I have reported to Mantis today When I create a new database during a little while my new file is named '$$Testfile$$' or similar (it is very fast). You can see the file with that name then the file is renamed with the name of the folderitem I have submitted (if you create the file on the desktop it jumped like if you were duplicating it btw). During the time the file is named '$$Testfile$$', it gets the default Valentina icon rather than mine. I also found out Valentina doesn't honor the extension I have added to my FolderItem, say, if I submit a FolderItem with name 'myFile.myExt', first I get '$$Testfile$$' with Valentina icon and then my final file with name 'myFile' with a blank Mac OS X unknown doc icon. My extension is gone. Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 13 23:54:26 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 13 15:56:05 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <51F2A0A1-B98D-47C3-8520-129EDAEBE690@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/13/06 11:52 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > Ruslan, this is related to the bug I have reported to Mantis today > > When I create a new database during a little while my new file is > named '$$Testfile$$' or similar (it is very fast). You can see the > file with that name then the file is renamed with the name of the > folderitem I have submitted (if you create the file on the desktop it > jumped like if you were duplicating it btw). During the time the file > is named '$$Testfile$$', it gets the default Valentina icon rather > than mine. I also found out Valentina doesn't honor the extension I > have added to my FolderItem, say, if I submit a FolderItem with name > 'myFile.myExt', first I get '$$Testfile$$' with Valentina icon and > then my final file with name 'myFile' with a blank Mac OS X unknown > doc icon. My extension is gone. Have you test fc6 ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Claudius at sailer-online.de Sat Jan 14 08:21:29 2006 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Sat Jan 14 01:23:13 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.1 fc5 #641 In-Reply-To: <24FA5CC3-C383-4FF2-842E-808B15A82293@sailer-online.de> References: <24FA5CC3-C383-4FF2-842E-808B15A82293@sailer-online.de> Message-ID: <51A79CDF-0612-4AD4-AA89-182D6AF1C393@sailer-online.de> Am 13. Jan 2006 um 20:40 Uhr schrieb Claudius Sailer: > > Am 13. Jan 2006 um 09:28 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > >> On 1/13/06 7:36 AM, "Claudius Sailer" >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> >>> Am 13. Jan 2006 um 00:06 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: >>> >>>> * Claudius, for you also 2 other good news: >>>> >>>> - Ivan have fix bug with Join that you report 2 days ago, >>>> - and he have improve UNION to be on RAM tables for small >>>> results. >>>> So you can see faster UNIONS now. >>> >>> really great. I have now 30% more speed in my problematic SQL. >>> Thanks >> >> Excellent! >> >> So you can CLOSE your reports in mantis about bugs and performance. > > As I can see correct you have to close it and I can support this ;-)) it is #641 :-)) Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 2006r1/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.1 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From maxprog at mac.com Sat Jan 14 18:53:25 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Sat Jan 14 11:55:11 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F3BE73B-EFD4-4DD2-9DEE-B8FFFD7C9FF2@mac.com> Hi, Just tested, same problem. The file is named '$$Testfile$$' during database creation, get Valentina default icon, doesn't honor the file extention I have provided. Also, do you remember the speed problem of Convert_v1_v2 on the PC? It is not only converting but also creating new files. On previous beta versions it was instantaneous, now it takes more than 1 minute to create an empty file. Stan > On 1/13/06 11:52 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Ruslan, this is related to the bug I have reported to Mantis today >> >> When I create a new database during a little while my new file is >> named '$$Testfile$$' or similar (it is very fast). You can see the >> file with that name then the file is renamed with the name of the >> folderitem I have submitted (if you create the file on the desktop it >> jumped like if you were duplicating it btw). During the time the file >> is named '$$Testfile$$', it gets the default Valentina icon rather >> than mine. I also found out Valentina doesn't honor the extension I >> have added to my FolderItem, say, if I submit a FolderItem with name >> 'myFile.myExt', first I get '$$Testfile$$' with Valentina icon and >> then my final file with name 'myFile' with a blank Mac OS X unknown >> doc icon. My extension is gone. > > Have you test fc6 ? > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Sun Jan 15 11:41:34 2006 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Sun Jan 15 13:45:25 2006 Subject: Help us on Freshmeat :-) Message-ID: <20060115194341.E0F597F01F@spatula.dreamhost.com> http://freshmeat.net/projects/valentina/ Hi all, We've listed Valentina on Freshmeat.net in order to raise awareness. Several numbers of people are looking but the only ones really qualified at this point to rate Valentina are our current user base -- you! :-) We would really appreciate your support in visiting the link about and ranking Valentina. Thanks all for your help! Have a great (what remains of the) weekend! Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 13:44:18 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 05:46:07 2006 Subject: Windows deployment of v2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/13/06 11:28 PM, "Trevor DeVore" wrote: Hi Trevor, >> But how this differ >> >> App.app/Contents/Resources/VComponents >> from >> App.app/Contents/VComponents >> ? >> >> The last is what you have now. >> App.app/Contents/VComponents > > The folder structure would actually be > > myapp.app > resource/Vcomponent > > The resource folder is at the same level as the app bundle. Why you want this? This is non standard it seems. Why not inside of .app ? > I also might want to put VComponents in > > ~/Library/Application/MyApp/VComponents > If I have a suite of apps that all rely on Valentina I wouldn't want > each app bundle to have to install Vcomponents. That is a lot of > extra mega bytes. Yes this is clear. Here I agree. > In this case I want VComponents somewhere where > all of MY apps can share it. I say MY apps because I want to control > the version that is installed and that I have tested with. Understood. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 13:46:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 05:48:26 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <2F3BE73B-EFD4-4DD2-9DEE-B8FFFD7C9FF2@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/14/06 7:53 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, > Just tested, same problem. The file is named '$$Testfile$$' during > database creation, get Valentina default icon, doesn't honor the file > extention I have provided. Does this means that ONLY this name of db cause problems? Dbs with normal names get correct icons, right ? > Also, do you remember the speed problem of Convert_v1_v2 on the PC? Yes. > It is not only converting but also creating new files. On previous > beta versions it was instantaneous, now it takes more than 1 minute > to create an empty file. You mean that your app use classes and execute mydb.Create() takes minutes to create empty db? Please send us this project with this create function. Stan, you sure that Debug Level is disabled? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 13:01:59 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:03:53 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0414A841-5139-4839-A12B-1AEEB4B1D99D@mac.com> Hi, >> Just tested, same problem. The file is named '$$Testfile$$' during >> database creation, get Valentina default icon, doesn't honor the file >> extention I have provided. > > Does this means that ONLY this name of db cause problems? Dbs with > normal names get correct icons, right ? The '$$Testfile$$' is not mine. It is a name set by Valentina during creation. I name my file 'myFile.myext' > You mean that your app use classes and execute mydb.Create() takes > minutes > to create empty db? Please send us this project with this create > function. > > Stan, you sure that Debug Level is disabled? Yes, I use the same code on the Mac and on the PC. On the Mac a couple of seconds to create an empty file. On the PC a couple of minutes. I did not change the code for a while. It was working really fine during beta cycle. It has started to behave that way very recently. I juste use a standard Create command with my set of classes. On the PC it is completely unusable for all my projects. For logging I use: #if DebugBuild Valentina.DebugLevel = EVDebugLevel.kLogErrors #else Valentina.DebugLevel = EVDebugLevel.kLogNothing #endif Stan > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 14:13:01 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:14:46 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <0414A841-5139-4839-A12B-1AEEB4B1D99D@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/16/06 2:01 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >>> Just tested, same problem. The file is named '$$Testfile$$' during >>> database creation, get Valentina default icon, doesn't honor the file >>> extention I have provided. >> >> Does this means that ONLY this name of db cause problems? Dbs with >> normal names get correct icons, right ? > > The '$$Testfile$$' is not mine. It is a name set by Valentina during > creation. I name my file 'myFile.myext' So you give normal db name but Valentina create bad ? What version do you use ?! If fc3 then test 2.1 final please. If 2.1 cause this problem then ... How I can reproduce ? Can you change V4RB example to reproduce this ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 14:16:50 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:18:35 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/16/06 2:13 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: >> The '$$Testfile$$' is not mine. It is a name set by Valentina during >> creation. I name my file 'myFile.myext' > > So you give normal db name but Valentina create bad ? > What version do you use ?! > > If fc3 then test 2.1 final please. > > If 2.1 cause this problem then ... How I can reproduce ? > Can you change V4RB example to reproduce this ? Aha, I see some notes from you in the Mantis. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 14:26:11 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:27:56 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/16/06 2:13 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: >> The '$$Testfile$$' is not mine. It is a name set by Valentina during >> creation. I name my file 'myFile.myext' > > So you give normal db name but Valentina create bad ? > What version do you use ?! > > If fc3 then test 2.1 final please. > > If 2.1 cause this problem then ... How I can reproduce ? > Can you change V4RB example to reproduce this ? Stan, I have check V4RB/Examples/Common/MacOS_Creator.rb --------------------------------------------------- dim f as folderitem // obtain folder item for file in the same folder. f = getFolderItem( "DataBase1.vdb" ) // mDatabase in this example -- property of this window. mDataBase = new VDataBase() // we inform instance of database about signature and [optionally] // we must do this BEFORE Create() call. mDatabase.Creator = "MYAP" mDatabase.SetMacTypes( "Mtp1", "Mtp2", "Mtp3", "Mtp4" ) // We will keep db in the one disk file mDataBase.Create( f, 4, 32 * 1024 ) --------------------------------------------------- You should set Creator/Type BEFORE db.Create() call. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 13:38:43 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:40:33 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I provide. I pass the FolderItem 'myFile.myExt' to the create function and I get 'myFile'. Because of that, during file creation I get Valentina default icon rather than mine. Is it possible to tell the create function to create a file with my extension? Using the extension may fix all my icons problems. Stan > On 1/16/06 2:13 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" > wrote: > >>> The '$$Testfile$$' is not mine. It is a name set by Valentina during >>> creation. I name my file 'myFile.myext' >> >> So you give normal db name but Valentina create bad ? >> What version do you use ?! >> >> If fc3 then test 2.1 final please. >> >> If 2.1 cause this problem then ... How I can reproduce ? >> Can you change V4RB example to reproduce this ? > > Stan, > > I have check V4RB/Examples/Common/MacOS_Creator.rb > > --------------------------------------------------- > dim f as folderitem > > // obtain folder item for file in the same folder. > f = getFolderItem( "DataBase1.vdb" ) > > // mDatabase in this example -- property of this window. > mDataBase = new VDataBase() > > // we inform instance of database about signature and [optionally] > // we must do this BEFORE Create() call. > mDatabase.Creator = "MYAP" > mDatabase.SetMacTypes( "Mtp1", "Mtp2", "Mtp3", "Mtp4" ) > > // We will keep db in the one disk file > mDataBase.Create( f, 4, 32 * 1024 ) > --------------------------------------------------- > > > You should set Creator/Type BEFORE db.Create() call. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 13:51:37 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:53:28 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, 2.1 is worst, it even slower to create new databases and now it freezes the whole computer during the process!... My app window becomes completely white, and everything is freezed during more than 2 minutes. Why this? It was working very well during beta cycle. v2.1 is not usable for me right now on the PC. Everything freezes 2 minutes on the 'MaxDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 )' line! > If 2.1 cause this problem then ... How I can reproduce ? > Can you change V4RB example to reproduce this ? ~/Stan From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 13:52:45 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 06:54:34 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 of second. > The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. > > However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I provide. ~/Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 14:58:35 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 07:00:21 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/16/06 2:52 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but > you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 > of second. Stan, This all do not help. Please SEND US project that reproduce problems that you see. AND provide us EXACT and very detailed steps todo to see problem. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 15:04:26 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 07:06:12 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/16/06 2:51 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Wow, 2.1 is worst, it even slower to create new databases and now it > freezes the whole computer during the process!... My app window > becomes completely white, and everything is freezed during more than > 2 minutes. Why this? It was working very well during beta cycle. v2.1 > is not usable for me right now on the PC. Everything freezes 2 > minutes on the 'MaxDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, > EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 )' line! Again, send us your project which have your classes and create this db. How many tables and fields do you have ? What is size of empty db ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From rjb at robelko.com Mon Jan 16 14:15:35 2006 From: rjb at robelko.com (Robert Brenstein) Date: Mon Jan 16 07:34:24 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but >you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 >of second. > >>The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. >> >>However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I provide. > >~/Stan Stan, Ruslan, is it possible that Valentina creates a temp file in the process of creating a new database? Sounds like Stan's computer (file system) is really slow for some reason and the file is visible for a moment. Robert From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 15:37:52 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 07:39:37 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/16/06 3:15 PM, "Robert Brenstein" wrote: >> I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but >> you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 >> of second. >> >>> The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. >>> >>> However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I provide. >> >> ~/Stan > > Stan, Ruslan, is it possible that Valentina creates a temp file in > the process of creating a new database? Sounds like Stan's computer > (file system) is really slow for some reason and the file is visible > for a moment. No, we do not create any tmp files during db.Create() Stan, may be you have some third-party utilities there ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 15:33:53 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 08:35:44 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <561D44AC-BA25-4688-88CC-102B3817DD64@mac.com> Hi, The code is simple: myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) During the time Valentina is doing is job I see the effect in the Finder. Note that I don't mind too much about this, is simply looks ugly. Stan > On 1/16/06 2:52 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but >> you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 >> of second. > > Stan, > > This all do not help. > > Please SEND US project that reproduce problems that you see. > > AND provide us EXACT and very detailed steps todo to see problem. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 15:41:07 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 08:43:03 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A8B0DD-C0C2-4CD9-A53B-C53E2E4CB4B0@mac.com> Hi, msgbox("Begin") myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) msgbox("end") Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 2 minutes with the whole computer frozen. Also: msgbox("Begin") valentina.Convert_1_2( inputFile, outputFile, true ) msgbox("end") Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 4 minutes with the whole computer frozen. Note that my code was working exceptionally fast during beta cycle. I haven't changed the code nor I have edited the table since then. It works fine on the Mac. Originally, during beta cycle it was faster on the PC. I successfully converted a 35,000 records database in a breeze. I use the same 19 tables since the beginning and the v2 created file is 2.42 Mb The file I try to convert from v1 to v2 is 1.14Mb Stan > On 1/16/06 2:51 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Wow, 2.1 is worst, it even slower to create new databases and now it >> freezes the whole computer during the process!... My app window >> becomes completely white, and everything is freezed during more than >> 2 minutes. Why this? It was working very well during beta cycle. v2.1 >> is not usable for me right now on the PC. Everything freezes 2 >> minutes on the 'MaxDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, >> EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 )' line! > > Again, send us your project which have your classes and create this > db. > > How many tables and fields do you have ? > What is size of empty db ? > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 15:42:18 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 08:44:08 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CF525A7-1EC3-4732-8330-CBCFED85D32D@mac.com> The '$$Testfile$$' thing is on the Mac only. The slowness problem is on the PC. One problem has nothing to do with the other. >> I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster >> but you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of >> 1/10 of second. >> >>> The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. >>> >>> However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I provide. >> >> ~/Stan > > Stan, Ruslan, is it possible that Valentina creates a temp file in > the process of creating a new database? Sounds like Stan's computer > (file system) is really slow for some reason and the file is > visible for a moment. > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 15:44:22 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 08:46:12 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55B283C9-71AF-478E-8780-4556D47B5FCB@mac.com> What kind of third party utilities? This is my Mac OS X system. It is a clean Mac OS X system with nothing more than Apple stuff. > On 1/16/06 3:15 PM, "Robert Brenstein" wrote: > >>> I rectify, the problem is still here. The file is renamed faster but >>> you can see how it is called '$$Testfile$$' during a couple of 1/10 >>> of second. >>> >>>> The '$$Testfile$$' problem is gone on v2.1 final. >>>> >>>> However v2.1 final continues stripping the file extension I >>>> provide. >>> >>> ~/Stan >> >> Stan, Ruslan, is it possible that Valentina creates a temp file in >> the process of creating a new database? Sounds like Stan's computer >> (file system) is really slow for some reason and the file is visible >> for a moment. > > No, we do not create any tmp files during db.Create() > > Stan, may be you have some third-party utilities there ? > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 17:14:10 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 09:15:55 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <561D44AC-BA25-4688-88CC-102B3817DD64@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/16/06 4:33 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > The code is simple: myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, > EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) But this is myDatabase, i.e. Set of YOUR classes. > During the time Valentina is doing is job I see the effect in the > Finder. > > Note that I don't mind too much about this, is simply looks ugly. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 17:18:39 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 09:20:25 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <49A8B0DD-C0C2-4CD9-A53B-C53E2E4CB4B0@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/16/06 4:41 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Stan, Exist one russian verb: better once to see than 100 times to hear. We need reproduce your problem somehow. > msgbox("Begin") > myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) > msgbox("end") > > Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 2 minutes with the > whole computer frozen. > > Also: > > msgbox("Begin") > valentina.Convert_1_2( inputFile, outputFile, true ) > msgbox("end") > > Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 4 minutes with the > whole computer frozen. > > Note that my code was working exceptionally fast during beta cycle. I > haven't changed the code nor I have edited the table since then. It > works fine on the Mac. Originally, during beta cycle it was faster on > the PC. I successfully converted a 35,000 records database in a breeze. > > I use the same 19 tables since the beginning and the v2 created file > is 2.42 Mb > The file I try to convert from v1 to v2 is 1.14Mb -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 16:30:59 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 09:32:50 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56BA5E7E-CC26-41D6-A71A-298A7C9C9646@mac.com> Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes time to copy the right code. Where do you want me to send them? > On 1/16/06 4:41 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > Stan, > > Exist one russian verb: > > better once to see than 100 times to hear. > > We need reproduce your problem somehow. > > >> msgbox("Begin") >> myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) >> msgbox("end") >> >> Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 2 minutes with the >> whole computer frozen. >> >> Also: >> >> msgbox("Begin") >> valentina.Convert_1_2( inputFile, outputFile, true ) >> msgbox("end") >> >> Between the two msgbox you have to wait about 4 minutes with the >> whole computer frozen. >> >> Note that my code was working exceptionally fast during beta cycle. I >> haven't changed the code nor I have edited the table since then. It >> works fine on the Mac. Originally, during beta cycle it was faster on >> the PC. I successfully converted a 35,000 records database in a >> breeze. >> >> I use the same 19 tables since the beginning and the v2 created file >> is 2.42 Mb >> The file I try to convert from v1 to v2 is 1.14Mb > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 16 18:18:26 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:20:12 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <56BA5E7E-CC26-41D6-A71A-298A7C9C9646@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/16/06 5:30 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes > time to copy the right code. > Where do you want me to send them? To me and CC to Ivan -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From delong at redcort.com Mon Jan 16 08:31:44 2006 From: delong at redcort.com (Keith DeLong) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:33:32 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <56BA5E7E-CC26-41D6-A71A-298A7C9C9646@mac.com> Message-ID: Stan, I believe REALbasic creates a temporary '$$Testfile$$' when it checks for adequate permissions to write to a directory. Could this be related to what you're seeing? > Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes > time to copy the right code. > Where do you want me to send them? > >> On 1/16/06 4:41 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >> Stan, >> >> Exist one russian verb: >> >> better once to see than 100 times to hear. >> >> We need reproduce your problem somehow. From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 17:47:58 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 10:49:50 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <963AD88F-C039-47D3-9CB2-1512E8EFB77E@mac.com> Ok, I have sent a project, works fine on Mac...but on windows I don't manage to make it run without a Windows exception. It is likely something stupid... Note that I get the 'xxxx has encountered a problem and needs to close....' dialog when I quit the application. Is it possible to avoid that? Stan > On 1/16/06 5:30 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes >> time to copy the right code. >> Where do you want me to send them? > > To me and CC to Ivan > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 18:22:41 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 11:24:30 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <078DC1CB-A876-4BEF-847F-F37C712A0226@mac.com> Hi, Yes, it is. I use class way, not the api way. Stan > On 1/16/06 4:33 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The code is simple: myDatabase.Create( DatabaseFile, >> EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd, 1 * 1024 ) > > But this is myDatabase, i.e. Set of YOUR classes. > >> During the time Valentina is doing is job I see the effect in the >> Finder. >> >> Note that I don't mind too much about this, is simply looks ugly. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 16 18:52:36 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 16 11:54:26 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is possible, actually I see the behavior on the Desktop but not on my home folders. Anyway, when it renames to the name I have provided it should also keep the extension I have submitted. Creator and signature concepts are dying in Unix Mac OS X world... Nothing better than a good unique extension to get your icon properly displayed. You can always add the extension right after Valentina is done, it works but I didn't feel it is correct. ~/Stan > Stan, > I believe REALbasic creates a temporary '$$Testfile$$' when it > checks for > adequate permissions to write to a directory. Could this be related > to what > you're seeing? > > >> Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes >> time to copy the right code. >> Where do you want me to send them? >> >>> On 1/16/06 4:41 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >>> >>> Stan, >>> >>> Exist one russian verb: >>> >>> better once to see than 100 times to hear. >>> >>> We need reproduce your problem somehow. > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Tue Jan 17 12:00:20 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Tue Jan 17 11:02:12 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I've just found the following odd behavior with the latest 2.1fc release: 1. Do an indexed search like this; select id,hit,uniqueID,authors,thedate,title,editors,keywords,authorsSortMethod,thedateSortMethod from thereferences where (left(notes, 4)='test') Get, say, 5 hits. 2. Now, delete the word "test" from the notes field in *one* record. 3. Repeat the search -> 0 hits! Reindexing does no good. 4. Close and reopen database, and the same search now -> 4 hits (correct result). Any ideas what might be going on? Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 17:37:25 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 09:39:14 2006 Subject: [Vstudio] pictures added. More ideas? Message-ID: Hi Jochen, Igor and Andrey last 3 days have made big progress in Vstudio. Monday: they have close about 10 issues Tuesday they have start develop support of pictures of VStudio Wednesday Pictures now work on Windows. fixed some bugs in inspector related to filed type and its change. ------------- Please update from CVS and try build WIN version. Then you can use V4RB or V4MD Examples/API/Field_Picture to generate db with pictures. * to test just open this db in Vstudio * go to browser * you should see in browser something as for Picture fields. * in the menu Record you can choose "view pictures" then you will see preview of pictures for each row. It is possible change height of rows. * double click on Cell of Picture field, open Picture Editor. you can export/import/clear picture of current record. ----------------------------------------------- You need self correct 2 functions in vs_Field2 to read/write pictures on MAC. ----------------------------------------------- Tomorrow guys will try add next features: * contextual menu of cells of picture field. * tool tip on column header of databrowser to show info about field type and flags. Just for comfort. * Drag and Drop of pictures from disk into cell of DataBrowser * Ability to show ALL picture fields of *current* record in the Property Inspector (will looks as slide show do -- one or more pictures by vertical). User can close/open group "pictures" as he can do for other groups of Inspector. * Also we going provide way to LOAD and save picture AS IS without decompression/compression. Engine can do this, task add support of this in Vstudio. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 18 17:51:10 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 18 10:53:07 2006 Subject: Trashing index file Message-ID: <4A8C28B1-DBDC-4EB8-8BF8-AC6BFB82BC8A@mac.com> Hi, Before, when you trashed a database index file, it was rebuilt at app startup. Now I get a 'ERROR: 0x59502 File "0x500070003" does not exist' on Valentina.Open(). Is this part of new v2 behavior or am I missing something? It was handy to be able to trash the index file. Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 19:12:49 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:14:41 2006 Subject: Trashing index file In-Reply-To: <4A8C28B1-DBDC-4EB8-8BF8-AC6BFB82BC8A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/18/06 6:51 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, > Before, when you trashed a database index file, it was rebuilt at app > startup. Now I get a 'ERROR: 0x59502 > File "0x500070003" does not exist' > on Valentina.Open(). Is this part of new v2 behavior or am I missing > something? This should work... > It was handy to be able to trash the index file. Right. It still must work. Please try other dbs (may be from examples). If other dbs work, and your db no -- try to CLONE your database. Then try again. If still problem, send us our db. Do you get this db by db.Create() or convert_1_2_() ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 18 18:28:34 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:30:29 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: <963AD88F-C039-47D3-9CB2-1512E8EFB77E@mac.com> References: <963AD88F-C039-47D3-9CB2-1512E8EFB77E@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, Is there news about my problem? I only get exceptions. Seems 'msl_all_dll90_x86.dll' is the culprit. > > Ok, I have sent a project, works fine on Mac...but on windows I > don't manage to make it run without a Windows exception. It is > likely something stupid... > Note that I get the 'xxxx has encountered a problem and needs to > close....' dialog when I quit the application. Is it possible to > avoid that? > > Stan > >> On 1/16/06 5:30 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> Yes, actually, in the meantime I am preparing the project. It takes >>> time to copy the right code. >>> Where do you want me to send them? >> >> To me and CC to Ivan >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina-beta mailing list >> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Wed Jan 18 12:45:50 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:47:42 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? Message-ID: Sending again... ------------------------------------- Hi Ruslan, I've just found the following odd behavior with the latest 2.1fc release: 1. Do an indexed search like this; select id,hit,uniqueID,authors,thedate,title,editors,keywords,authorsSortMethod,thedateSortMethod from thereferences where (left(notes, 4)='test') Get, say, 5 hits. 2. Now, delete the word "test" from the notes field in *one* record. 3. Repeat the search -> 0 hits! Reindexing does no good. 4. Close and reopen database, and the same search now -> 4 hits (correct result). Any ideas what might be going on? Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 19:48:06 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:50:00 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/06 7:45 PM, "jda" wrote: > Sending again... > > ------------------------------------- > Hi Ruslan, > > I've just found the following odd behavior with the latest 2.1fc release: > > 1. Do an indexed search like this; > > select > id,hit,uniqueID,authors,thedate,title,editors,keywords,authorsSortMethod,theda > teSortMethod > from thereferences where (left(notes, 4)='test') > > Get, say, 5 hits. > > 2. Now, delete the word "test" from the notes field in *one* record. > > 3. Repeat the search -> 0 hits! > > Reindexing does no good. > > 4. Close and reopen database, and the same search now -> 4 hits > (correct result). > > Any ideas what might be going on? > > Thanks, Aha, sorry. Jon, as always -- way to reproduce. Btw, bug with BLOB Ivan have fix. We have extend our tests. Secret was that you use very small segment size. New build may be even today night, or tomorrow morning -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 18 18:49:38 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:51:31 2006 Subject: Trashing index file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I get the problem with both a new database and one converted from v1. As soon as I remove the index file, I get that error. It only happens in one of my project. I have created a very little RB project with a fresh database: http://www.maxprog.com/misc/valentina/Index_Problem.zip It works as is. Move index file outside app folder and you will get the error. Stan > On 1/18/06 6:51 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > Hi Stan, > >> Before, when you trashed a database index file, it was rebuilt at app >> startup. Now I get a 'ERROR: 0x59502 >> File "0x500070003" does not exist' >> on Valentina.Open(). Is this part of new v2 behavior or am I missing >> something? > > This should work... > >> It was handy to be able to trash the index file. > > Right. > > It still must work. > > Please try other dbs (may be from examples). > > If other dbs work, and your db no -- try to CLONE your database. > Then try again. > > If still problem, send us our db. > > Do you get this db by db.Create() or convert_1_2_() ? > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Wed Jan 18 12:51:37 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:53:29 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > >Aha, sorry. > >Jon, as always -- way to reproduce. Easily done. I'll contact you off-list. > >Btw, bug with BLOB Ivan have fix. We have extend our tests. >Secret was that you use very small segment size. >New build may be even today night, or tomorrow morning > Very good. Thank you. Jon Sonny Software From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 19:53:58 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:55:49 2006 Subject: Trashing index file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/06 7:49 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > I get the problem with both a new database and one converted from v1. > As soon as I remove the index file, I get that error. > It only happens in one of my project. I have created a very little RB > project with a fresh database: > > http://www.maxprog.com/misc/valentina/Index_Problem.zip > > It works as is. Move index file outside app folder and you will get > the error. Ivan, please check this project. It sounds like some embedded file go into wrong volume. May be some if() should be added -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 19:55:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 11:57:29 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/06 7:28 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: You ask about slow convert? Yes Ivan say he get slow time on your db also > Is there news about my problem? I only get exceptions. Seems > 'msl_all_dll90_x86.dll' is the culprit. > >> >> Ok, I have sent a project, works fine on Mac...but on windows I >> don't manage to make it run without a Windows exception. It is >> likely something stupid... >> Note that I get the 'xxxx has encountered a problem and needs to >> close....' dialog when I quit the application. Is it possible to >> avoid that? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 18 19:02:03 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 18 12:03:57 2006 Subject: [V4RB] Database file named '$$Testfile$$' and extention not honored In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cool!... I was worried you couldn't reproduce :) > On 1/18/06 7:28 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > You ask about slow convert? > > Yes Ivan say he get slow time on your db also > >> Is there news about my problem? I only get exceptions. Seems >> 'msl_all_dll90_x86.dll' is the culprit. >> >>> >>> Ok, I have sent a project, works fine on Mac...but on windows I >>> don't manage to make it run without a Windows exception. It is >>> likely something stupid... >>> Note that I get the 'xxxx has encountered a problem and needs to >>> close....' dialog when I quit the application. Is it possible to >>> avoid that? > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From Ed at Kleban.com Wed Jan 18 12:24:11 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Wed Jan 18 12:26:07 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/06 11:48 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > > Btw, bug with BLOB Ivan have fix. We have extend our tests. > Secret was that you use very small segment size. > New build may be even today night, or tomorrow morning > Which bug with BLOB field was fixed? The one that caused crashes when using it? The one that required you to use setBlank() on the blob field before you wrote to it? Or something else? From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 20:29:28 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 12:31:20 2006 Subject: Search/index bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/06 8:24 PM, "Ed Kleban" wrote: >> Btw, bug with BLOB Ivan have fix. We have extend our tests. >> Secret was that you use very small segment size. >> New build may be even today night, or tomorrow morning >> > > Which bug with BLOB field was fixed? Jon have found bug in 2.1 It is in Mantis > The one that caused crashes when using it? ? > The one that required you to use setBlank() on the blob field before > you wrote to it? This is not bug > Or something else? Bug which was reported by Jon -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 18 20:00:27 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 18 13:02:21 2006 Subject: A customer send me a movie... Message-ID: <85952F76-9547-45AE-958D-8D73AE8F2B87@mac.com> Hi, This is a rather poor quality movie but I can't manage to understand where all those errors come from. I can't reproduce here. http://www.maxprog.com/misc/valentina/mymovie.mp4 He is using 10.4.4, he doesn't have any duplicate outdated VComponent folder in its Libray/CFMSupport folder. My app is a bundle with libraries incuded that works fine here on a computer where Valentina has never been installed. Any idea? Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 18 22:39:11 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 18 14:41:05 2006 Subject: A customer send me a movie... In-Reply-To: <85952F76-9547-45AE-958D-8D73AE8F2B87@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/18/06 9:00 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > This is a rather poor quality movie but I can't manage to understand > where all those errors come from. I can't reproduce here. > http://www.maxprog.com/misc/valentina/mymovie.mp4 > > He is using 10.4.4, he doesn't have any duplicate outdated VComponent > folder in its Libray/CFMSupport folder. My app is a bundle with > libraries incuded that works fine here on a computer where Valentina > has never been installed. > > Any idea? There is bug with names of HDD that has unicode chars. Check this -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Jan 19 11:23:16 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 19 03:25:28 2006 Subject: [Vstudio] pictures added. More ideas? In-Reply-To: <20582.62.154.199.179.1137660831.squirrel@webmail3.server-einstellung.de> Message-ID: On 1/19/06 10:53 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: >> So for DataBrowser it show info about DATA which I browse now. >> >> For example here can be drawn small diagram of links between top and >> bottom tables >> >>> LinkInfo: >> >> +---------+ +---------+ >> | T1 | 1 Link M | T2 | >> +---------+ +---------+ > Yes - very good! Fully agree! > >>> Pictures Preview >> >> -------------- >> | | >> | | >> | | >> | | >> | | >> -------------- >> >>> I really RECOMMEND to create a new PICTURE BROWSER window for this!! >> >>> Property Inspector is floating pane for property manipulation - it should >>> NOT show any database content! Please provide seperate window for >>> pictures!!!! >> >> You can think about it as NEW window. >> >> When you switch between Schema and Data Browsers the Inspector window >> Change contents. I think very logical and comfortable. > > But not for CONTENT e.g. pictures! > One reason is formal: Metadata versus content Religious issue :-) > another reason: Property inspector is floating palette -> never used for > data elsewhere. Moment. Many MacOS apps open drawer on right side to show preview. For example Path Finder. > More important point: With a seperate new window it will be more logical > like DataBrowser now - because people then can easy open > SEVERAL picture browsers! For example: This makes it easy to compare > pictures in table1 with pictures in table2 ! I see point, also this bring mess. You need to have 2 DataBrowsers opened. And 2 Picture Browser opened. > Another reason: Property inspector now always shows properties of > CURRENT SELECTED object. This would break if we show pictures for > ALL records - but only ONE is selected as current. RIGHT! Note Picture Browser show pictures of CURRENT record in DataBrowser. Let your table have 20 fields, and 3 of them are pictures. (I think in most cases people have table with one picture field only). So our idea was - show this group "Preview". - user can close/open it - if group is closed then no need spend time to show them. For that table I can see 3 picture by vertical. ------- You know, Adobe for example, allow you drag out floating panels, and collect together as you want ... Just a point... Just I not very like idea to have more windows... In any case guys can for now implement it on Inspector windows, Move it to new window will be easy. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Ed at Kleban.com Thu Jan 19 12:00:21 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Thu Jan 19 12:02:48 2006 Subject: [Vstudio] pictures added. More ideas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Let me point out in advance that I'm speaking in 100% complete ignorance here because I haven't fired up the new VS program therefore I have not played with the new picture feature. But I take strong exception with some of the things I've seen go by in the email conversation here. That said, here are a couple comments: On 1/19/06 3:23 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > On 1/19/06 10:53 AM, "Jochen Peters" wrote: > Moment. > > Many MacOS apps open drawer on right side to show preview. No. "Many" apps do not. Pathfinder does -- which is one of the reasons I refuse to use Pathfinder if I need see previews and instead making do with the finder. The only other apps I'm aware of that do this are those which are showing a large collection of thumbnails such as Preview or Acrobat. Relying on the use of drawers to manage the revelation or disclosure of previews makes window management a nightmare for the user in my personal opinion. It's hard enough with limited screen size to figure out where to place and size a window without having to compensate for windows whose size must constantly change outside the borders of the window. If you ever feel compelled to add a drawer, then I recommend you do your users a favor and instead make a window splitter so they can sanely manage their screen real estate and use an interface compatible with multiple platforms. Better yet in this case, be happy there's a separate window. Whether it should be floating and thus steal visible space from other visible windows when you don't want to stare at it is a separate issue. Personally, I'd keep the window, but kill the floating aspect -- or at least give the user a preference whether it must always float and therefore prevent them from seeing what they want. > For example Path Finder. > >> More important point: With a seperate new window it will be more logical >> like DataBrowser now - because people then can easy open >> SEVERAL picture browsers! For example: This makes it easy to compare >> pictures in table1 with pictures in table2 ! > > I see point, also this bring mess. Yes, it may make a mess but it gives US, the user, control instead of requiring us to conform to YOUR, the designer's, sense of what's messy, good, proper, or acceptable. If you believe you're making a tool for novice users and feel compelled to protect them, then you'll end up with an interface like the REALbasic IDE that simply frustrates the heck out of power users -- just look at the litany of feedback requests related to this. But I'd argue very strongly that VS users aren't novices. They are necessarily all power users or they wouldn't be using a tool like this. I recommend you don't put artificial barriers in the way of your users just because it offends your personal sense of aesthetics. Instead give them power and control to your tool the way THEY want for THEIR needs not the way you think they should be using the tool. >> Another reason: Property inspector now always shows properties of >> CURRENT SELECTED object. This would break if we show pictures for >> ALL records - but only ONE is selected as current. > > RIGHT! > > Note Picture Browser show pictures of CURRENT record in DataBrowser. > > Let your table have 20 fields, and 3 of them are pictures. > (I think in most cases people have table with one picture field only). > > So our idea was > - show this group "Preview". > - user can close/open it Please don't make it so we have to close the window to see what's underneath it. Make it so we can click on it to show it or click on a window in front of it to occlude it. > - if group is closed then no need spend time to show them. > > For that table I can see 3 picture by vertical. > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Jan 19 22:54:43 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 19 14:58:16 2006 Subject: [ANN] Vstudio 2.1 fc7 for Windows uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, You can download Vstudio WIN build. Main news here ? support of pictures. I hope Director/V4MD developers will love this. VStudio - 2.1 fc7 ================= - 0001256: [Property Inspector] Now show EditField with Method text. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001255: [Dialogs] Dialog CreateMethod joined with CreateField dialog. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001254: [Property Inspector] Show type of Picture field (Igor Nikitin) - 0001252: [Table Browser] Width of column on open try to show full column name (Andrey Mezheninov) - 0001251: [Table Browser] [NEW] Double Click on Picture field open PictureEditor (Igor Nikitin) - 0001250: [Table Browser] [New] Pictures can be previewed in Inspector window (soon will be separate window). (Igor Nikitin) - 0001249: [Table Browser] Can show pictures now in preview mode (Igor Nikitin) - 0001190: [Links] Please Add Name Of ObjectPtr When Viewing a Link (Igor Nikitin) - 0001218: [Links] Please Show the Link_xxx Related To An ObjectPtr (Igor Nikitin) - 0001156: [Schema Browser] Crash when selcting multiple items in 3. column (Andrey Mezheninov) - 0001196: [Table Browser] On resize of window area of both top and related browsers should grow (Igor Nikitin) - 0001197: [Table Browser] Window splitter dissaper. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001024: [Application Menu] First 3 columns allow resize INTERNAL column. (Jochen Peters) - 0001192: [Schema Browser] [Glitch] Structure Browser 4th column has 3 sub-columns (Igor Nikitin) - 0001246: [Dialogs] Dialog "Create New Field" now handle methods as well. (Igor Nikitin) - 0001245: [Schema Browser] Need to improve resizing of columns in 4th column (fields) (Igor Nikitin) - 0000878: [VServer connection] VStudio crashes when I tried to add record in the databrowser window on WinXP. (Jochen Peters) - 0001244: [Table Browser] Crash on close of browser right after adding of the first record. (Andrey Mezheninov) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060119/0bb46984/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Jan 20 11:05:11 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Jan 20 03:07:12 2006 Subject: Rb 2006 r1 doesn't start // Anybody use 2006 r1 + V4RB ? In-Reply-To: <20060120002228.7692410384CC@lists.realsoftware.com> Message-ID: > From: Bob Gordon > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:49:36 -0800 (PST) Hi Bob, > Never mind. (Partly) > > I also installed the Valentina plug in. When I take it > out of the plugins folder, RB starts up fine. > > Is this a known issue? > > I'll report any results I find. * so Valentina not works for you only with RB 2006 r1 ? with other versions it did work ? Anybody from Valentina V4RB developers do use 2006 r1 with success? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Ed at Kleban.com Fri Jan 20 10:46:23 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Fri Jan 20 10:48:20 2006 Subject: Rb 2006 r1 doesn't start // Anybody use 2006 r1 + V4RB ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/20/06 3:05 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > > Anybody from Valentina V4RB developers do use 2006 r1 with success? > I use V4RB just fine with 2006 r1 and 2004 r4 From Ed at Kleban.com Fri Jan 20 10:49:13 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Fri Jan 20 10:51:08 2006 Subject: Rb 2006 r1 doesn't start // Anybody use 2006 r1 + V4RB ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/20/06 3:05 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Anybody from Valentina V4RB developers do use 2006 r1 with success? > If RB is crashing on start up, best bet is to startup RB 2006 with an empty Plugins folder, and then add back one or two at a time. I had to install new versions of all my Einhugur plugins for example. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Jan 22 17:50:41 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 22 09:52:41 2006 Subject: [V4MD] please read ALL: what about next idea -- let's take some Arca syntax ? Message-ID: Hi Director developers, I have spend some time reading Arca Xtra site and features, and talking to few developers, some of them have choose Arca instead of Valentina, as I understand only because of simpler syntax. So, this is information from Arca site: > myresult = gDB.executeSQL("SELECT name, age FROM users WHERE age<=18") returns: > [#rowschanged: 0, #columns: ["name", "age"], #columntype: ["text", "integer"], > #rows: [["John", 15], ["Mary", 13], ["Paulo", 10]], #errorMsg: 0] What good ideas I see here... 1) single QUERY function in Database class, which eliminates need of cursor at all. Hmm. I believe in V4MD 1.x was such function. Also we did have similar db level function in the Valentina for WebSiphon about 5 years ago. So it is good idea add such function to V4MD 2 back. 2) In Vcursor class we have GetRecordAsPropList(), GetRecordsAsPropList(). and we have functions which can return records as SIMPLE list, and as Strings formated with some delimiters. So we have a lots here. BUT. GetRecordsAsPropList() returns prop list in format [ [#fld1_name:v11, #fld2_name:v21], [#fld1_name:v12, #fld2_name:v22], [#fld1_name:v13, #fld2_name:v23], [#fld1_name:v14, #fld2_name:v24] ] It is easy to see that this function stupidly create field names many times. IF you look on Arca list, then its author have extract field names into separate sublist, and rows go as simple list in fact. ------------------------------------------ So how we can improve V4MD2 to get this idea? A) Arca use SqlExecute() function to execute EXECUTE and SELECT commands. Valentina 2 on C++ Level have 3 functions in fact: db.SqlExecute() as integer db.SqlSelect() as VCursor db.Query() as VResult Function Query() is exactly what we need! So we can add into V4MD new function Vdatabase.Query() -- returns property list in format of Arca do. This can be implemented very easy. (at last of end do simple things is much easier then do hard :-) I think everybody will agree that we can add this function with no problems. IF exists some Lingo developers that prefer this way they will get it. Developers which what more flexibility and control will go to SqlExecute() -- it simply returns integer SqlSelect() -- to get vcursor and its features. -------- B) Now lets think about existed RecordsAsPropList() it looks like will be good idea to change their result. I think we can: * rename existed functions to RecordAsPropList2() // deprecated * and have RecordAsPropList() with new behavior. So people that use them now will need just find/replace to fix existed code. All new code will go with these new methods. What you think about this plan ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From rjb at robelko.com Sun Jan 22 16:51:06 2006 From: rjb at robelko.com (Robert Brenstein) Date: Sun Jan 22 10:12:58 2006 Subject: web glitch Message-ID: Link for downloading Valentina xcmd (VXCMD) is not working. It displays back the "downloads" page. I gather that it should simply go to valentina for revolution (V4REV) page. Robert From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Jan 22 18:14:37 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 22 10:16:39 2006 Subject: web glitch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/22/06 5:51 PM, "Robert Brenstein" wrote: > Link for downloading Valentina xcmd (VXCMD) is not working. It > displays back the "downloads" page. I gather that it should simply > go to valentina for revolution (V4REV) page. Thank you, Robert. We will check. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 11:52:50 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 03:54:54 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded Message-ID: Hi, This build mainly for Stan. Stan, Convert now should work faster on Windows. Please confirm. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 11:45:34 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 04:47:38 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8B0E94BD-85B8-41F9-A636-2E23E92D59B1@mac.com> Hi, The beta are no longer accessible on your site. You go to the beta page and start running in circles. http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/V4RB http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB ...etc... also I build everything on the Mac, including PC versions. Is it possible to get the V4RB MAC 2.2 b2 Stan > Hi, > > This build mainly for Stan. > > Stan, Convert now should work faster on Windows. Please confirm. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 12:52:49 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 04:54:49 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: <8B0E94BD-85B8-41F9-A636-2E23E92D59B1@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/23/06 12:45 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > The beta are no longer accessible on your site. You go to the beta > page and start running in circles. > > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/V4RB > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB > > ...etc... I will check > also I build everything on the Mac, including PC versions. Is it > possible to get the V4RB MAC 2.2 b2 Ok, will make it now -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 14:14:33 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 06:16:36 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/23/06 12:52 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > On 1/23/06 12:45 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The beta are no longer accessible on your site. You go to the beta >> page and start running in circles. >> >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/V4RB >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >> >> ...etc... > > I will check > >> also I build everything on the Mac, including PC versions. Is it >> possible to get the V4RB MAC 2.2 b2 > > Ok, will make it now Stan, Check it now -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 13:44:02 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 06:46:08 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can access the page however I can't mount the V4RB_22b2_mac.dmg file. I get an 'invalid checksum' error. Stan > On 1/23/06 12:52 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" > wrote: > >> On 1/23/06 12:45 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The beta are no longer accessible on your site. You go to the beta >>> page and start running in circles. >>> >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/V4RB >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB >>> >>> ...etc... >> >> I will check >> >>> also I build everything on the Mac, including PC versions. Is it >>> possible to get the V4RB MAC 2.2 b2 >> >> Ok, will make it now > > Stan, > > Check it now > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 18:37:54 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 10:43:20 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/23/06 2:44 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > I can access the page however I can't mount the V4RB_22b2_mac.dmg > file. I get an 'invalid checksum' error. I have re-upload file. Please try again. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 19:00:03 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 12:02:08 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, It works better than before however it is still slower than on the Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a bit is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You are 10s without refresh and my app main window becomes completely blank. It looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor resources. Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- dll90_x86.dll'exception and the app remains forever in Windows Task Manager... Stan > On 1/23/06 2:44 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> I can access the page however I can't mount the V4RB_22b2_mac.dmg >> file. I get an 'invalid checksum' error. > > I have re-upload file. > > Please try again. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 20:24:48 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 12:26:52 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/23/06 8:00 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > It works better than before however it is still slower than on the > Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a > file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a bit > is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You are 10s > without refresh and my app main window becomes completely blank. It > looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor resources. > Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- dll90_x86.dll'exception > and the app remains forever in Windows Task Manager... Ivan, did you see such behavior in Stan app ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 19:58:37 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:00:42 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 Message-ID: <60020C2E-B7D4-4475-A8E4-3640FB4A55C5@mac.com> Hi, The code: -- Dim vdb as vDatabase Dim aFile as FolderItem aFile = GetFolderItem( "myfile.myext" ) vdb = new vDataBase( EVStorageType.kDisk ) vdb.open( aFile ) -- gives the error: "ERROR: 0x59502 File "C: \Documents and Settings\Stanley Roche Busk\Desktop\myfile.myext.vdb" does not exist." Seems this new beta is adding the 'vdb' extension to the folder item I provide. As a result you can never open back a file. Stan From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 20:24:01 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:26:07 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE1AAFB-A295-4CEC-9699-441D28DDACE9@mac.com> Oops sorry I made a mistake here. Convert_v1_v2 no longer works. The app crashes with no exception as soon as I try to run the Convert_v1_v2 function. I don't get anything in RB debugger nor Valentina log. It just crashes silently. What takes 20s is a little schema conversion opening a v2 file, not a conversion from v1 to v2. > Hi, > > It works better than before however it is still slower than on the > Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a > file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a > bit is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You are > 10s without refresh and my app main window becomes completely > blank. It looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor > resources. Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- > dll90_x86.dll'exception and the app remains forever in Windows Task > Manager... > > Stan > >> On 1/23/06 2:44 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> I can access the page however I can't mount the V4RB_22b2_mac.dmg >>> file. I get an 'invalid checksum' error. >> >> I have re-upload file. >> >> Please try again. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina-beta mailing list >> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 21:22:47 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:29:57 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: <60020C2E-B7D4-4475-A8E4-3640FB4A55C5@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/23/06 8:58 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > The code: > > -- > Dim vdb as vDatabase > Dim aFile as FolderItem > > aFile = GetFolderItem( "myfile.myext" ) > vdb = new vDataBase( EVStorageType.kDisk ) > vdb.open( aFile ) > -- > > gives the error: "ERROR: 0x59502 File "C: > \Documents and Settings\Stanley > Roche Busk\Desktop\myfile.myext.vdb" > does not exist." > > Seems this new beta is adding the 'vdb' extension to the folder item > I provide. As a result you can never open back a file. But have you assign before Valentina.SetExtensions() ?! You must do this if you want to use your own extensions. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 21:31:35 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:33:38 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: <3EE1AAFB-A295-4CEC-9699-441D28DDACE9@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/23/06 9:24 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Oops sorry I made a mistake here. Convert_v1_v2 no longer works. The > app crashes with no exception as soon as I try to run the > Convert_v1_v2 function. I don't get anything in RB debugger nor > Valentina log. It just crashes silently. > > What takes 20s is a little schema conversion opening a v2 file, not a > conversion from v1 to v2. Hmm. Please send to Ivan once again all you think he need to reproduce this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 20:31:45 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:33:50 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: <3EE1AAFB-A295-4CEC-9699-441D28DDACE9@mac.com> References: <3EE1AAFB-A295-4CEC-9699-441D28DDACE9@mac.com> Message-ID: Oops again, sorry, just found out it is again the extension problem. Valentina doesn't want to convert a v1 file if the it has not the '.vdb' extension. It simply closes. myfile.myext <- crashes myfile.vdb <- works fine! Hope that helps, I remember that we ran into that issue at some stage of v2.1 beta cycle. > Oops sorry I made a mistake here. Convert_v1_v2 no longer works. > The app crashes with no exception as soon as I try to run the > Convert_v1_v2 function. I don't get anything in RB debugger nor > Valentina log. It just crashes silently. > > What takes 20s is a little schema conversion opening a v2 file, not > a conversion from v1 to v2. > >> Hi, >> >> It works better than before however it is still slower than on the >> Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a >> file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a >> bit is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You >> are 10s without refresh and my app main window becomes completely >> blank. It looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor >> resources. Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- >> dll90_x86.dll'exception and the app remains forever in Windows >> Task Manager... >> >> Stan >> >>> On 1/23/06 2:44 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >>> >>>> I can access the page however I can't mount the V4RB_22b2_mac.dmg >>>> file. I get an 'invalid checksum' error. >>> >>> I have re-upload file. >>> >>> Please try again. >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Ruslan Zasukhin >>> VP Engineering and New Technology >>> Paradigma Software, Inc >>> >>> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >>> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >>> >>> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Valentina-beta mailing list >>> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >>> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina-beta mailing list >> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From ivan_smahin at valentina-db.com Mon Jan 23 21:52:59 2006 From: ivan_smahin at valentina-db.com (Ivan Smahin) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:55:04 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1498213526.20060123215259@valentina-db.com> Hello Ruslan, Monday, January 23, 2006, 8:24:48 PM, you wrote: > On 1/23/06 8:00 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It works better than before however it is still slower than on the >> Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a >> file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a bit >> is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You are 10s >> without refresh and my app main window becomes completely blank. It >> looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor resources. >> Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- dll90_x86.dll'exception >> and the app remains forever in Windows Task Manager... > Ivan, did you see such behavior in Stan app ? No - it works. I use Convert v1_v2 issue.rbp project. As "icash" extension is used - so v1_Database.icash (1.x version) database has been converted. -- Best regards, Ivan mailto:ivan_smahin@valentina-db.com From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 20:55:59 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 13:58:04 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0C3265CF-8791-4AEB-8104-5088B5438643@mac.com> Hi, Yes, right now I am using the application that was working (slow but working) last week. I have a question though. How many times I have to call Valentina.SetExtensions() ? Each time before calling vdb.open ( aFile ) ? Stan > On 1/23/06 8:58 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The code: >> >> -- >> Dim vdb as vDatabase >> Dim aFile as FolderItem >> >> aFile = GetFolderItem( "myfile.myext" ) >> vdb = new vDataBase( EVStorageType.kDisk ) >> vdb.open( aFile ) >> -- >> >> gives the error: "ERROR: 0x59502 File "C: >> \Documents and Settings\Stanley >> Roche Busk\Desktop\myfile.myext.vdb" >> does not exist." >> >> Seems this new beta is adding the 'vdb' extension to the folder item >> I provide. As a result you can never open back a file. > > But have you assign before Valentina.SetExtensions() ?! > > You must do this if you want to use your own extensions. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 23 22:07:00 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Jan 23 14:09:03 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: <0C3265CF-8791-4AEB-8104-5088B5438643@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/23/06 9:55 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, right now I am using the application that was working (slow but > working) last week. I have a question though. How many times I have > to call Valentina.SetExtensions() ? Each time before calling vdb.open > ( aFile ) ? No, enough only once IF all your dbs in app use the same set of extensions. Engine know that set globally. You see? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 21:09:17 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 14:11:23 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b2 uploaded In-Reply-To: <1498213526.20060123215259@valentina-db.com> References: <1498213526.20060123215259@valentina-db.com> Message-ID: <6928CEC5-00AF-4EA0-9D37-10C00802746F@mac.com> Yes, it looks like the Valentina.SetExtensions() is the problem here. So the only problems I have right now is the 'msl_all- dll90_x86.dll'exception. I get it every time I exit the app and how my app unresponsive during file creation. It is funny because it only happen when creating a file not when converting. It looks like my app is crashing the whole system. > Hello Ruslan, > > Monday, January 23, 2006, 8:24:48 PM, you wrote: > >> On 1/23/06 8:00 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >>> Hi, >>> >>> It works better than before however it is still slower than on the >>> Mac. Creating a file is 2s on a Mac, 10 s on the PC. Converting a >>> file is about 3s on the Mac and 20s on the PC. What worries me a bit >>> is how the system stop to respond when creating a file. You are 10s >>> without refresh and my app main window becomes completely blank. It >>> looks like the file creation takes 100% of processor resources. > >>> Also when I quit my app I continue to get a 'msl_all- >>> dll90_x86.dll'exception >>> and the app remains forever in Windows Task Manager... > >> Ivan, did you see such behavior in Stan app ? > > No - it works. I use Convert v1_v2 issue.rbp project. > As "icash" extension is used - so v1_Database.icash (1.x version) > database has been converted. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Ivan mailto:ivan_smahin@valentina-db.com > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From maxprog at mac.com Mon Jan 23 21:14:31 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Mon Jan 23 14:16:37 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2612024E-EA6D-4A7C-83E5-9B9AC88CEC1A@mac.com> Ok. For debugging something I don't remember the SetExtention line was commented, my fault. I guess it was because of the icon issue... I returned the line as it was before and all the extension issues have disappeared. So right now only 2 problems left, my app that remains in task manager because of a DLL exception when I quit, it always happen and that lack of responsiveness when creating new files. btw it doesn't happen when converting, just when creating new files. > On 1/23/06 9:55 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, right now I am using the application that was working (slow but >> working) last week. I have a question though. How many times I have >> to call Valentina.SetExtensions() ? Each time before calling vdb.open >> ( aFile ) ? > > No, enough only once > > IF all your dbs in app use the same set of extensions. > > Engine know that set globally. You see? > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 24 22:55:43 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 24 14:57:51 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4MD MAC 2.2 b3 uploaded. [NEW] db.SqlQuery() method. Message-ID: Hi V4MD Developers! You can download 2.2 b3 build. This build contains new function Vdatabase.SqlQuery() which returns property list. * this method can work with ANY SQL command. * it is expected that it A LOTS simplify usage of V4MD for newbie Director developers. * it also have #errNumberHex, so you can easy see hex value of error code. Please try and let me know your comments. If somebody need WIN build please let me know, I will make it also then. V4MD - 2.2 b3 ============= - 0001271: [Examples] [NEW] SQL/GettingStarted. Demonstrates usage of db.SqlQuery() method. (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001270: [API] [NEW] VDatabase.SqlQuery() method that returns Property List for ANY SQL command. (Ruslan Zasukhin) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060124/0d6715f4/attachment-0001.html From jda at his.com Tue Jan 24 16:02:48 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Tue Jan 24 15:04:54 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4MD MAC 2.2 b3 uploaded. [NEW] db.SqlQuery() method. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I just noticed there's a new b2 for RB. But the Change Log doesn't list 2.2b2. What's new and/or fixed? Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 24 23:05:46 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 24 15:07:50 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4MD MAC 2.2 b3 uploaded. [NEW] db.SqlQuery() method. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/24/06 11:02 PM, "jda" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > I just noticed there's a new b2 for RB. But the Change Log doesn't > list 2.2b2. What's new and/or fixed? For Stan was convert_1_2 made faster on windows -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Tue Jan 24 22:12:16 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Tue Jan 24 15:14:22 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4MD MAC 2.2 b3 uploaded. [NEW] db.SqlQuery() method. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EF373A2-CA9C-4B04-9A7B-3660DA2F00B2@mac.com> ...and it almost works :) ... we are very near perfection :P > On 1/24/06 11:02 PM, "jda" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> I just noticed there's a new b2 for RB. But the Change Log doesn't >> list 2.2b2. What's new and/or fixed? > > For Stan was convert_1_2 made faster on windows > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 25 00:02:55 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 24 16:05:17 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4MD WIN 2.2 b3 uploaded also. [NEW] db.SqlQuery() method. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/24/06 10:55 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Hi V4MD Developers! > > You can download 2.2 b3 build. > > This build contains new function Vdatabase.SqlQuery() which returns property > list. > > * this method can work with ANY SQL command. > * it is expected that it A LOTS simplify usage of V4MD for newbie > Director developers. > > * it also have #errNumberHex, so you can easy see hex value of error > code. > > > Please try and let me know your comments. > If somebody need WIN build please let me know, I will make it also then. > > > V4MD - 2.2 b3 > ============= > - 0001271: [Examples] [NEW] SQL/GettingStarted. Demonstrates usage of > db.SqlQuery() method. (Ruslan Zasukhin) > - 0001270: [API] [NEW] VDatabase.SqlQuery() method that returns Property > List for ANY SQL command. (Ruslan Zasukhin) > -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 25 11:19:23 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 25 03:21:40 2006 Subject: Several Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/25/06 9:28 AM, "? ??" wrote: Hi Jeffrey > We are going to save SQL texts and usually SQL text is Roman character. > In this case, UTF8 will be helpful to reduce the size. I see. The whole database of SQL queries? Or only one column? What other columns will have ? > Ivan emailed me about the In-line issue and he said that he is going to work > on it. > In-line view was introduced into Oracle 8 and I think it is very fantastic in > SQL coding. > If Valentina can fully support the In-line View functionality like Oracle, it > will be huge benifit to SQL developers. * Ivan have implement first draft of this. And I can upload new build of VCOM2 for you. Please note it is not best yet we think. It is required to copy data into tmp table now. * why you think it is so great feature? We do not see strong advantages of its usage * Does oracle execute such queries without performance penalty ? * do you have some URLs into Oracle info about this ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 25 12:52:24 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 25 04:55:09 2006 Subject: Several Questions In-Reply-To: <1184924007.20060125120514@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: On 1/25/06 12:05 PM, "? ??" wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > Thanks for the response. > > Yes, we can transform the SQL. > But but what if this case? > " select a.d_no, a.cnt1, b.cnt2 > from (select d_no, count(*) cnt1 from T1 group by d_no) a, > (select x_no, count(*) cnt2 from T2 group by x_no) b > where a.d_no = b.x_no > and a.d_no in (select d_no from T3 where zzz in (1, 2, 3)) " > > I think flexible aliasing is very very importan in In-Line View style coding. Okay, I see that can exists much more queries based on this technique... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Wed Jan 25 19:51:01 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Wed Jan 25 12:53:17 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: <2612024E-EA6D-4A7C-83E5-9B9AC88CEC1A@mac.com> References: <2612024E-EA6D-4A7C-83E5-9B9AC88CEC1A@mac.com> Message-ID: <71DA7BA3-77D5-464C-94D9-BB363F4243BC@mac.com> Hi, I have arranged that lack of responsiveness and effects pretty well with a better progress dialog on Windows. Right now the only problem that remains is the 'msl_all- dll90_x86.dll' exception when quitting the app. If you fix that I will be ready, Stan > > Ok. For debugging something I don't remember the SetExtention line > was commented, my fault. I guess it was because of the icon > issue... I returned the line as it was before and all the extension > issues have disappeared. So right now only 2 problems left, my app > that remains in task manager because of a DLL exception when I > quit, it always happen and that lack of responsiveness when > creating new files. btw it doesn't happen when converting, just > when creating new files. > >> On 1/23/06 9:55 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, right now I am using the application that was working (slow but >>> working) last week. I have a question though. How many times I have >>> to call Valentina.SetExtensions() ? Each time before calling >>> vdb.open >>> ( aFile ) ? >> >> No, enough only once >> >> IF all your dbs in app use the same set of extensions. >> >> Engine know that set globally. You see? >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina-beta mailing list >> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Jan 25 21:14:54 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Jan 25 13:17:04 2006 Subject: Other problem with V4RB 2.2b2 In-Reply-To: <71DA7BA3-77D5-464C-94D9-BB363F4243BC@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/25/06 8:51 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Hi, > > I have arranged that lack of responsiveness and effects pretty well > with a better progress dialog on Windows. good > Right now the only problem that remains is the 'msl_all- > dll90_x86.dll' exception when quitting the app. If you fix that I > will be ready, Ivan, are you able reproduce this exception ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Jan 26 17:27:31 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Jan 26 09:29:42 2006 Subject: ValentinaSQL.pdf updated Message-ID: http://paradigmasoft.com/docs/ValentinaSQL_2_en.pdf Corrected grammar to reflect * clonedb * convertRDBLink * table_dot_column * table_dot_column_list * column_reference -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Jan 28 10:56:24 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Jan 28 02:58:39 2006 Subject: [Valentina 2] Binary Links are amazing! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/28/06 6:33 AM, "Justin Drury" wrote: Hi Justin, > I just used a binary link on two tables...amazing, I'm blown away... :-) > I'm having a bit of a hard time with the docs, apart from count_linked is > there any other cool functions for binary links? YES. Please check ValentinaSQL.pdf section "Link Functions" Or you ask about API functions? Then you need check I_Link, I_Link2 interfaces. We still will improve these interfaces and exposed methods into plugins. > select * from table1,table2 seems to automatically join, is there anything > else that's nifty? * Also you can find USEFUL new operator -> Please read SQL.pdf if still questions about it, let me know. In short: this is part of SQL2003, but(!) we have extend this idea to be used with our Links feature. We like results :-) This operator can REALLY simply as syntax of your query so increase performance, because it removes need in join. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Frank Schima from Valentina list use this feature very intensive and have offer many ideas how to improve this future more. * Also note that we have extend syntax of join of SL92 SELECT ... FROM T1 JOIN T2 ON link_name When you have 3-4-5 tables to join, such syntax simplify a lots query. Note, in 80% of cases you can use even simpler form: SELECT ... FROM T1 JOIN T2 > BTW, in the api a link is made by passing an array, is there any reason why > there's no? linkRecords(int recID1,int recID2) ? Aha, this is exactly what must be improved. Right now into plugins exposed set of methods which go from general I_Link. I_Link2 have methods which are comfortable for partial case - link between 2 tables. So I_Link2 should have method which you want. And binaryLink should inherit it. > Again... amazing...so easy and powerful, I just used it to join up files on > hard drive in one table with metadata from a mysql dump in another table and > was able to give the client reports on duplicate records, orphaned files on > disk, files in the database without corresponding files.? Amazing... And I hope you have note that BinaryLink can handle M : M link? Actually Links and BinaryLinks is the most REVOLUTIONARY new feature of Valentina 2.x. As I like say: any other DBMS of the world do not have this. It is clean Paradigma Software invention. And as far as I see, developers which have spend time to try it very like it! Also note, on Valentina list we have discuss with Ed new improvements to BinaryLinks. Believe me, it will be just fantastic thing. :-) > and indexing in v2 on a field is sooooo much faster than v1. Good news. Then I think you will be happy that the next build 2.2 fc4 will be able index varchar/string about 3 times faster of 2.1. 2.1 do bench which I have in 100 seconds, 2.2 now in 32 seconds. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From Ed at Kleban.com Sat Jan 28 12:31:28 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Sat Jan 28 12:33:44 2006 Subject: [Valentina 2] Binary Links are amazing! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/28/06 2:56 AM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Also note, on Valentina list we have discuss with Ed new improvements to > BinaryLinks. Believe me, it will be just fantastic thing. :-) Naw, they'll be much better than just fantastic ;-) > >> and indexing in v2 on a field is sooooo much faster than v1. > > Good news. > > Then I think you will be happy that the next build 2.2 fc4 will be able > index varchar/string about 3 times faster of 2.1. > > 2.1 do bench which I have in 100 seconds, 2.2 now in 32 seconds. > We going to see hashed indexes anytime soon? From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Jan 29 10:29:41 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 29 02:32:00 2006 Subject: [Valentina 2] Binary Links are amazing! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/28/06 8:31 PM, "Ed Kleban" wrote: >> Also note, on Valentina list we have discuss with Ed new improvements to >> BinaryLinks. Believe me, it will be just fantastic thing. :-) > > Naw, they'll be much better than just fantastic ;-) > ext >> Then I think you will be happy that the next build 2.2 fc4 will be able >> index varchar/string about 3 times faster of 2.1. >> >> 2.1 do bench which I have in 100 seconds, 2.2 now in 32 seconds. > > We going to see hashed indexes anytime soon? Ed, I cannot say exactly. Soon will be 2.2 Then we going spend time on XML features (at least month). Soon I will describe on beta list what we want todo with XML. Actually next months our main stream of development will be vserver and its features. And yes of course engine still will be improved parallel -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Sun Jan 29 07:26:20 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sun Jan 29 06:28:37 2006 Subject: [Valentina 2] Binary Links are amazing! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Actually next months our main stream of development will be vserver and its >features. > >And yes of course engine still will be improved parallel > Ruslan, does this mean that UTF=8 storage will be put off yet again? Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Jan 29 14:37:30 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 29 06:39:45 2006 Subject: [Valentina 2] Binary Links are amazing! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/29/06 2:26 PM, "jda" wrote: >> Actually next months our main stream of development will be vserver and its >> features. >> >> And yes of course engine still will be improved parallel >> > > Ruslan, does this mean that UTF=8 storage will be put off yet again? No, it is in last phrase. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Jan 29 20:10:09 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 29 12:12:31 2006 Subject: [DOCS] V4MD_Reference_2_en.pdf updated Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigmasoft.com/docs/V4MD_Reference_2_en.pdf You can download update document. * I have add description of new function db.SqlQuery * improved a lots part "Getting Started" pages 5-9. Please check this changes and let me know if anything is missing and should be added. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Jan 30 02:07:21 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Jan 29 18:09:39 2006 Subject: [ANN] Vserver, V4MD, V4RB, VCOM, VNET 2.2 b4 Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta kernel - 2.2 b4 =============== - 0001266: [API] Allow temporary methods (Ivan Smahin) - 0001286: [SQL nodes] ORDER BY - exception on trying to use field which is not mentioned in the select-list. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001285: [Fields] Functions StarWith(), Endswith, Contains() sometimes glitches for TEXT fields. (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001268: [SQL nodes] Crash on GROUP BY if aliases used in select list. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001283: [SQL nodes] Some subqueries (FROM clause) don't work. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001282: [SQL nodes] Group By query crash if select-list does not contain all items mentioned in group-by list. (Ivan Smahin) By human words :-) * Now you can do ORDER BY and GROUP BY on field which is NOT in SELECT clause. this is extension of SQL92 * Now you can create in Table Temporary Methods. This means that info about such method will NOT be stored in system table, so if system failure happens, your database structure is clean. You need drop tmp methods when you do not need any more. For now you cannot create tmp fields. * Now indexing of Varchar field (and probably others) work about 3 times faster. My bench that have take 100 seconds, now work in 32 seconds. * there is expectations that Aggregate methods also will work faster. there was no made benches on this to get exact numbers. * Now work such aggregate functions as SELECT max( length(fld) ) * Kim, Ivan have fix that simple inline FROM-subquery, but more complex queries still not work. So please do not expect for this feature in nearest time. * Eric, you can check this build on your issue. Note update both Vserver and V4MD. Note: uploaded also Vserver demo license files for next month. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060130/d9c052bd/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 31 11:54:57 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 31 03:57:21 2006 Subject: [V4RB2.1] VSet position ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/31/06 11:44 AM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: Hi Daniel, > Hello Ruslan > > how to get the VArraySet position of a record recId ? I need this to > update a slider.value after a recID=table.addrecord() (and update the > VArraySet sorting). > > I don't found nothing about it in docs or archives Do you mean that you have RecID and you want find its position in ArraySet? So you have ArraySet with some records, Then you add record ... Get new RecID And you want insert it into ArraySet ? even more ... To keep array sorted? I think there is no such API now. You want keep it sorting how? By values of RecID? Because if you have array that keep sort order e.g. by field f1, Then you cannot know where to insert that new RecID. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 31 14:20:08 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 31 06:22:39 2006 Subject: [V4RB2.1] VSet position ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/31/06 12:31 PM, "Daniel FLEURY" wrote: >> Do you mean that you have RecID and you want find its position in ArraySet? > > Yes, right > > >> >> So you have ArraySet with some records, >> Then you add record ... Get new RecID >> >> And you want insert it into ArraySet ? >> even more ... To keep array sorted? > > example: > > newRecID=table.addrecord() > allRecords=table.SelectAllRecords() > allRecordsSortedByField=table.Sort(allRecords, table.field("aField"), > true)//I update the VArraySet > > and now I would like something like= > newPosition=allRecordsSortedByField.position(newRecID) Moment. Note that allRecordsSortedByField do NOT contains this new RecID. Because when you have create it this record did not exists. You need self append new item into array and item will go into END of array. So this will be like Windows do :-) > mySlider.value = newPosition Well I see next way: - after add of new record you need create new set and sort it again. - then you can use NEW function which we can add: index = Varray.IndexOf( recid ) So you can set correctly yor slider. >> I think there is no such API now. > > It would be usefull ! Please add request into Mantis >> You want keep it sorting how? By values of RecID? >> Because if you have array that keep sort order e.g. by field f1, >> >> Then you cannot know where to insert that new RecID. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 31 17:03:14 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 31 09:05:37 2006 Subject: V4MD vs Others Message-ID: Hi V4MD Develoeprs! Please take a look on this DRAFT page: http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/en/products/developer/adk/V4MDCMP Here we have try to give more or less objective comparison Of Valentina for Director vs other DB Xtra. IF you will see * any mistakes * missing features or group of features * or you have some advices please let me know. We need yet add before and after table some comments I think. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Tue Jan 31 18:59:53 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Tue Jan 31 12:00:27 2006 Subject: [ANN] Vserver, V4MD, V4RB, VCOM, VNET 2.2 b4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8626D526-2F78-43ED-8DF4-D7E8FEF4BFD2@mac.com> Why the V4RB for Windows is never included for betas? Also, did you fix the DLL exception when quitting? Stan > Hi All, > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > kernel - 2.2 b4 > =============== > - 0001266: [API] Allow temporary methods (Ivan Smahin) > - 0001286: [SQL nodes] ORDER BY - exception on trying to use field > which is not mentioned in the select-list. (Ivan Smahin) > - 0001285: [Fields] Functions StarWith(), Endswith, Contains() > sometimes glitches for TEXT fields. (Ruslan Zasukhin) > - 0001268: [SQL nodes] Crash on GROUP BY if aliases used in select > list. (Ivan Smahin) > - 0001283: [SQL nodes] Some subqueries (FROM clause) don't work. > (Ivan Smahin) > - 0001282: [SQL nodes] Group By query crash if select-list does not > contain all items mentioned in group-by list. (Ivan Smahin) > > > By human words :-) > > * Now you can do ORDER BY and GROUP BY on field > which is NOT in SELECT clause. > this is extension of SQL92 > > > * Now you can create in Table Temporary Methods. > This means that info about such method will NOT be stored in > system table, so if system failure happens, your database > structure > is clean. > > You need drop tmp methods when you do not need any more. > > For now you cannot create tmp fields. > > > * Now indexing of Varchar field (and probably others) work about 3 > times faster. > My bench that have take 100 seconds, now work in 32 seconds. > > * there is expectations that Aggregate methods also will work faster. > there was no made benches on this to get exact numbers. > > * Now work such aggregate functions as > SELECT max( length(fld) ) > > > * Kim, Ivan have fix that simple inline FROM-subquery, but more > complex queries > still not work. So please do not expect for this feature in > nearest time. > > > * Eric, you can check this build on your issue. Note update both > Vserver and V4MD. > > > > Note: uploaded also Vserver demo license files for next month. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Jan 31 20:24:48 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Jan 31 12:27:10 2006 Subject: [ANN] Vserver, V4MD, V4RB, VCOM, VNET 2.2 b4 In-Reply-To: <8626D526-2F78-43ED-8DF4-D7E8FEF4BFD2@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/31/06 7:59 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > Why the V4RB for Windows is never included for betas? Because it is harder produce it, So I prefer build its beta only on request > Also, did you fix the DLL exception when quitting? It seems no. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed]