From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 1 22:17:35 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 1 14:20:00 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b5 uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, V4RB - 2.2 b5 ============= - 0001302: [API] [NEW] VBitSet now have methods Invert(), SetAllBits(), ClearAllBits() (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001301: [API] [NEW] VArraySet now have methods InsertAt, RemoveAt, IndexOf (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001300: [API] Need function to find record position in VArraySet (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001217: [Performance] Converting file from v1 to v2 is about 60 times slower on Windows than on Mac OS (Ivan Smahin) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060201/ad8f156b/attachment.html From jda at his.com Wed Feb 1 15:21:39 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Feb 1 14:24:05 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b5 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi All, > >V4RB - 2.2 b5 >============= >- 0001302: [API] [NEW] VBitSet now have methods Invert(), >SetAllBits(), ClearAllBits() (Ruslan Zasukhin) >- 0001301: [API] [NEW] VArraySet now have methods InsertAt, >RemoveAt, IndexOf (Ruslan Zasukhin) >- 0001300: [API] Need function to find record position in VArraySet >(Ruslan Zasukhin) >- 0001217: [Performance] Converting file from v1 to v2 is about 60 >times slower on Windows than on Mac OS (Ivan Smahin) > > Hi Ruslan, Also fix for bug #1267 fix (SQL not finding unicode text)? Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 1 23:05:48 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 1 15:08:12 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b5 uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/1/06 10:21 PM, "jda" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > Also fix for bug #1267 fix (SQL not finding unicode text)? Yes. It is in kernel -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Thu Feb 2 11:39:19 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Thu Feb 2 04:41:26 2006 Subject: V4RB and Windows 98 Message-ID: <76E674A4-1369-4C34-A493-D83EEDADDF52@mac.com> Hi, Does V4RB2 work well with Windows 98? Stan From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 12:53:18 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 04:55:46 2006 Subject: V4RB and Windows 98 In-Reply-To: <76E674A4-1369-4C34-A493-D83EEDADDF52@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/06 12:39 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: Hi Stan, > Does V4RB2 work well with Windows 98? It looks that Valentina 2 do not work on win98 Reason is not clear. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 13:06:22 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 05:08:51 2006 Subject: Mach-O V4RB? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/30/06 10:04 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, Hi All, Well, I have got working V4RB MACHO ! It looks now as: * V4RB.rbx -- plugin that contains ALL 3 platforms: Carbon, Macho and Windows. * in the CFMSupport/VComponents -- carbon libs * REALbasic start and use Carbon plugin during development. * then you can Build as MacOS X only. * and you need manually (or write some Bash script) copy VComponents macho into myapp.app package. DONE. You have app that is Macho, and it keep all inside. -- I will cleanup now my environment to simplify creation of such V4RB.rbx plugin... -- Note, I think VComponents Macho will go by separate archive. Because it is additional 5-6 Mb I think. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 13:40:27 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 05:43:00 2006 Subject: Mach-O V4RB? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 1:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > I have a working approach for this for another MachO library I use at runtime. > I have a copy of the dylib in the same folder as my project file, so it is in > the same folder as my debug application when it is created. When I build a > final version of my app, I copy the dylib inside the bundle, and reference the > bundled copy of the dylib. Then, in RB I have the following declare code > wherever I use the bundle (for example): > > > #if DebugBuild > Const kHIDLib = "@executable_path/../../../libHIDUtilities.dylib" // use > the ?outside? copy > #else > Const kHIDLib = "@executable_path/../Frameworks/libHIDUtilities.dylib" // > use the ?bundled? copy > #endif Wow, REALbasic allow control @executable_path ?! This is good probably > #if TargetMachO > Declare Function HIDGetFirstDeviceElement Lib kHIDLib(inDevicePtr as > integer, inElementTypeMask as integer) as integer > return New HIDElement(HIDGetFirstDeviceElement(Data.Address, > inElementTypeMask), Data.Address) > #endif -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 13:48:31 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 05:51:02 2006 Subject: Mach-O V4RB? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 1:42 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > That would be even better :-) I've found that RB chooses the Mac OS format > to use based on your Build settings. So, if you have "Mac OS X only" > selected in Build Settings, then it will debug as MachO too. Does that > help? Then just EXCELLENT !!!!! :-)) > Dave. > > ------------------------------------ > Dave Addey > dave@dj1800.com > > DJ-1800 > Complete DJ solution for the Mac > http://www.dj1800.com/ > > Support and pre-release forums: > http://forums.dj1800.com/ > > >> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:38:48 +0200 >> To: Dave Addey >> Conversation: Mach-O V4RB? >> Subject: Re: Mach-O V4RB? >> >> On 2/2/06 1:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> I think exists simpler way to test macho libs during development: >> >> * you can remove VComponents Carbon from CFMSupport >> * insert VComponents macho into REALbasic.app/Contents/VComponents >> >> Only problem -- how to make REALbasic to choose on start NOT Carbon but >> macho plugin. >> >> We need try this way, may be carbon plugin simply will fail to load because >> no VComponents Carbon, so RB will try to load MACHO plugin. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From support at dj1800.com Thu Feb 2 12:01:05 2006 From: support at dj1800.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 06:08:20 2006 Subject: Mach-O V4RB? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Fantastic :-) I should add that if you select *both* of "Mac OS X/Classic" and "Mac OS X only" in the Build Settings, then "Mac OS X/Classic" (i.e. Carbon PEF) is used by default when you debug. So you have to be sure to *just* select "Mac OS X only" (and uncheck "Mac OS X/Classic") to debug as MachO by default. Dave. ------------------------------------ Dave Addey dave@dj1800.com DJ-1800 Complete DJ solution for the Mac http://www.dj1800.com/ Support and pre-release forums: http://forums.dj1800.com/ > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:48:31 +0200 > To: Dave Addey , "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > > Conversation: Mach-O V4RB? > Subject: Re: Mach-O V4RB? > > On 2/2/06 1:42 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> That would be even better :-) I've found that RB chooses the Mac OS format >> to use based on your Build settings. So, if you have "Mac OS X only" >> selected in Build Settings, then it will debug as MachO too. Does that >> help? > > Then just EXCELLENT !!!!! :-)) > >> Dave. >> >> ------------------------------------ >> Dave Addey >> dave@dj1800.com >> >> DJ-1800 >> Complete DJ solution for the Mac >> http://www.dj1800.com/ >> >> Support and pre-release forums: >> http://forums.dj1800.com/ >> >> >>> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >>> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:38:48 +0200 >>> To: Dave Addey >>> Conversation: Mach-O V4RB? >>> Subject: Re: Mach-O V4RB? >>> >>> On 2/2/06 1:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> I think exists simpler way to test macho libs during development: >>> >>> * you can remove VComponents Carbon from CFMSupport >>> * insert VComponents macho into REALbasic.app/Contents/VComponents >>> >>> Only problem -- how to make REALbasic to choose on start NOT Carbon but >>> macho plugin. >>> >>> We need try this way, may be carbon plugin simply will fail to load because >>> no VComponents Carbon, so RB will try to load MACHO plugin. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 15:00:11 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 07:02:38 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 Message-ID: Hi All, You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs ------ David, I have to think. Way to use in debugger macho libs will not work in RB. It do work in Revolution for example. In RB problem is that RB produce tmp build app. So we need yet find way which will work in debugger -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 13:10:46 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 07:13:14 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Great news! I see what you mean about the debug application. Would my original idea work? That is, can the plugin: * Call REALInDebugMode() to see if it is in debug or not * if it is in debug, then the plugin looks for its MachO dylibs in the same folder as the debug app's bundle * if it is not in debug, then it looks for the MachO dylibs inside the built app's bundle If I debug my app in MachO format, then it should use the MachO version of the V4RB plugin, enabling you to do the check mentioned above from within the debug application (which RB has just built). Will that work? Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:00:11 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > Hi All, > > You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. > > It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs > > > ------ > David, I have to think. > > Way to use in debugger macho libs will not work in RB. > It do work in Revolution for example. > In RB problem is that RB produce tmp build app. > > So we need yet find way which will work in debugger > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 13:25:16 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 07:27:42 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I downloaded the MachO beta. I just tried running a debug application here, with: Vcomponents (carbon) v2.1 at /Library/CFMsupport/VComponents Vcomponents (macho) v2.2b6 at /Applications/REALbasic 2006 Release 1/REALbasic 2006.app/Contents/VComponents V4RB (macho plugin) v2.2b6 in /Applications/REALbasic 2006 Release 1/Plugins/ I built the application, and copied the VComponents folder to: MyApp.App/Contents/VComponents/ When I launch the app, I get this error: Runtime Error 4: Failed assertion Location: plugin.cpp:7399 Failure condition: pluginEntryTable.GetEntry(entrypointName, out) Failure Message: can?t find plugin method Valentina.CacheSize as Integer Exactly the same thing happens if I try and run the app as a MachO debug as well. Any ideas? Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:00:11 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > Hi All, > > You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. > > It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs > > > ------ > David, I have to think. > > Way to use in debugger macho libs will not work in RB. > It do work in Revolution for example. > In RB problem is that RB produce tmp build app. > > So we need yet find way which will work in debugger > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060202/e2191f4c/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:07:15 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:09:41 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 3:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Exactly the same thing happens if I try and run the app as a MachO debug as > well. > > Any ideas? First of all: can you build RELEASE app and run it ? Yes or no? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:09:34 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:11:59 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 3:10 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, Frankly saying I have not catch yet way which you describe. > Great news! > > I see what you mean about the debug application. Would my original idea > work? That is, can the plugin: > > * Call REALInDebugMode() to see if it is in debug or not ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is function from RB SDK ? > * if it is in debug, then the plugin looks for its MachO dylibs in the same > folder as the debug app's bundle > * if it is not in debug, then it looks for the MachO dylibs inside the built > app's bundle But plugin DO NOT search for dlls This job do MacOS itself using @executable_path > If I debug my app in MachO format, then it should use the MachO version of > the V4RB plugin, enabling you to do the check mentioned above from within > the debug application (which RB has just built). > > Will that work? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:10:22 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:12:48 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 3:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > I downloaded the MachO beta. I just tried running a debug application here, > with: > > Vcomponents (carbon) v2.1 at /Library/CFMsupport/VComponents > Vcomponents (macho) v2.2b6 at /Applications/REALbasic 2006 Release 1/REALbasic > 2006.app/Contents/VComponents > V4RB (macho plugin) v2.2b6 in /Applications/REALbasic 2006 Release 1/Plugins/ Note, V4RB.rbx in fact contains 3 plugins! Carbon, Macho and Windows. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:11:25 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:13:52 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 3:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > I built the application, and copied the VComponents folder to: > > MyApp.App/Contents/VComponents/ > > When I launch the app, I get this error: > > Runtime Error 4: Failed assertion > Location: plugin.cpp:7399 > Failure condition: pluginEntryTable.GetEntry(entrypointName, out) > Failure Message: can?t find plugin method > Valentina.CacheSize as Integer > > Exactly the same thing happens if I try and run the app as a MachO debug as > well. > > Any ideas? Hmm, so RELEASE app do not work also for you ? Let me check again -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:34:05 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:36:31 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 4:11 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > > Hmm, so RELEASE app do not work also for you ? > > Let me check again Reproduced. I see that archive contains somehow wrong VComponents folder. Checking reason -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 14:36:00 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:38:31 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, > Note, V4RB.rbx in fact contains 3 plugins! Carbon, Macho and Windows. Okay. What I meant was that I am using the plugin from the new MachO 2.2b6 archive. > Hmm, so RELEASE app do not work also for you ? Unfortunately not. After building the application, I put the components in MyApp.App/Contents/VComponents/ - is this right? It didn't work. > Frankly saying I have not catch yet way which you describe. Sorry! It may not even be possible, but it sounded good :-) I'll explain further. >> I see what you mean about the debug application. Would my original idea >> work? That is, can the plugin: >> >> * Call REALInDebugMode() to see if it is in debug or not > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is function from RB SDK ? Yes. (I have done some plugin development myself before, for MachO and Win32.) >> * if it is in debug, then the plugin looks for its MachO dylibs in the same >> folder as the debug app's bundle >> * if it is not in debug, then it looks for the MachO dylibs inside the built >> app's bundle > > But plugin DO NOT search for dlls > > This job do MacOS itself using @executable_path Right. Can the path (relative to @executable_path) be defined by the plugn at run-time? I.e. Can it be set when the application runs, rather than when you build the plugin? I've only ever done this from within REALbasic using declares and @executable_path, not from within Xcode in a plugin, so I don't know if this is possible or not. Something like this: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/MachOTopi cs/Articles/loading_code.html Look at the last section on the page. Dave. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 16:46:41 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 08:49:06 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 4:36 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >> But plugin DO NOT search for dlls >> >> This job do MacOS itself using @executable_path > > Right. Can the path (relative to @executable_path) be defined by the plugn > at run-time? I do not have such info > I.e. Can it be set when the application runs, rather than when > you build the plugin? Don't know. Up to this moment I have think that NO. > I've only ever done this from within REALbasic using > declares and @executable_path, not from within Xcode in a plugin, so I don't > know if this is possible or not. I know only one way to change AFTER compilation this path using some comand line utility of OS X. It should work on dylibs. So again problem, because RB everything have hide into .rbx format. > Something like this: > > http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/MachOTopi > cs/Articles/loading_code.html > > Look at the last section on the page. ok -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 14:58:44 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:01:11 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, It looks as though the approach is to make the libraries into a bundle (or bundles), access them with CFBundle, and then load their code. Here's an even better article from Apple: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/LoadingCode/index. html Although it talks about Cocoa, it explains how to do the same thing with CFBundle too. Dave. >> Something like this: >> >> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/MachOTopi >> cs/Articles/loading_code.html >> >> Look at the last section on the page. > > ok > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Thu Feb 2 10:01:32 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:04:01 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b5 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >On 2/1/06 10:21 PM, "jda" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> Also fix for bug #1267 fix (SQL not finding unicode text)? > >Yes. It is in kernel > Hi Ruslan, Would you please check this? It is still not working with unicode text with the new build here... Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 17:13:55 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:16:20 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 4:34 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > On 2/2/06 4:11 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > >> >> Hmm, so RELEASE app do not work also for you ? >> >> Let me check again > > Reproduced. > > I see that archive contains somehow wrong VComponents folder. > Checking reason I have upload archive again. Now release build should work. Please let me know -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 15:24:35 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:27:05 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I downloaded the new archive. Good news: no linker errors any more for the build application. Bad news: I just tried it, and I get this crash on application startup: Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x064e1a78 operator delete(void*) + 32 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05b76b68 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU [in-charge deleting]() + 76 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05cb79f8 fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x060ea780 fbl::String::~String [in-charge]() + 88 9 V4RB.rbx_0.155.dylib 0x02529010 V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 10 V4RB.rbx_0.155.dylib 0x0252908c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + 92 11 V4RB.rbx_0.155.dylib 0x02516b9c PluginEntry + 28 12 V4RB.rbx_0.155.dylib 0x02504284 REALPluginMain + 112 13 rbframework.dylib 0x013a13b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 14 rbframework.dylib 0x013a146c LoadPlugins + 52 15 rbframework.dylib 0x0140af70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + 28 16 DJ-1800 3.0b5 0x0021d6c0 _Main + 68 17 DJ-1800 3.0b5 0x00001b54 % main + 1360 18 DJ-1800 3.0b5 0x003cda5c _start + 184 19 DJ-1800 3.0b5 0x003cd92c start + 48 Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:13:55 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/2/06 4:34 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > >> On 2/2/06 4:11 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: >> >>> >>> Hmm, so RELEASE app do not work also for you ? >>> >>> Let me check again >> >> Reproduced. >> >> I see that archive contains somehow wrong VComponents folder. >> Checking reason > > I have upload archive again. Now release build should work. > > Please let me know > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060202/6c59446c/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 17:34:36 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:37:10 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 5:24 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > I downloaded the new archive. > > Good news: no linker errors any more for the build application. > > Bad news: I just tried it, and I get this crash on application startup: Please try V4RB examples. I have try e.g. Common/Database_CreateCloseOepn -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 2 17:34:49 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:37:15 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b5 uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 5:01 PM, "jda" wrote: >> On 2/1/06 10:21 PM, "jda" wrote: >> >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> >>> Also fix for bug #1267 fix (SQL not finding unicode text)? >> >> Yes. It is in kernel >> > > Hi Ruslan, > > Would you please check this? It is still not working with unicode > text with the new build here... I will test again on MAC your db -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 15:39:38 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 09:42:05 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I just tried Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen in Rb2006r1 with the latest beta for Macho. I changed the project's build settings to be "Mac OS Only", built the application, and copied the VComponents into the MyApplication.app/Contents/ folder. I then launched the project. It crashes with the same error message: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb68 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU [in-charge deleting]() + 76 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f8 fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String [in-charge]() + 88 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00774010 V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077408c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + 92 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00761b9c PluginEntry + 28 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074f284 REALPluginMain + 112 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + 28 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:34:36 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/2/06 5:24 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> I downloaded the new archive. >> >> Good news: no linker errors any more for the build application. >> >> Bad news: I just tried it, and I get this crash on application startup: > > Please try V4RB examples. > > I have try e.g. Common/Database_CreateCloseOepn > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Okay I will again check archive from site. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 16:50:50 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 10:53:17 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Thanks! I've checked through everything again, but I can't find a problem in the set-up this end. Good luck! Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:06:11 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/2/06 5:39 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> I just tried Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen in Rb2006r1 with the latest beta >> for Macho. I changed the project's build settings to be "Mac OS Only", built >> the application, and copied the VComponents into the >> MyApplication.app/Contents/ folder. I then launched the project. It crashes >> with the same error message: > > Strange. Okay I will again check archive from site. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Feb 2 16:45:31 2006 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Feb 2 15:48:00 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. > > It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs > -------------- What does this mean? I have been using V4Rb 2 in Mach-O applications in-house for a few months. Charles Yeomans From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 22:16:56 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 16:19:26 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Charles, It means that the VComponents can be included within the application bundle for a Macho build, as I understand it. (Although it's not quite working for me yet.) MachO apps can happily use the Carbon Vcomponents if they're in the default /Library/CFMSupport/ folder, which is the way I've been developing with V4RB_2 in the meantime. Dave. > From: Charles Yeomans > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:45:31 -0500 > To: Valentina Beta > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > > On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. >> >> It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs >> -------------- > > What does this mean? I have been using V4Rb 2 in Mach-O applications > in-house for a few months. > > Charles Yeomans > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 2 22:23:23 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 2 16:26:00 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Another thing I've just discovered: If I use the new plugin (2.2b6), but don't have the Carbon version of Vcomponents in /Library/CFMsupport/Vcomponents, then REALbasic won't launch (I get this error): Thread 0 Crashed: 0 vshared_carbon_cw.shlb 0x0ada5b78 0xad70000 + 220024 1 vshared_carbon_cw.shlb 0x0ad8b948 0xad70000 + 112968 2 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x0bc40d3c Valentina_Init_ICU__3fblFv + 36 3 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x0bc40a80 ValentinaInit__3fblFUlPcPc + 64 4 Kernel_Carbon_Final.shlb 0x0bc40a00 ValentinaInitL__3fblFUlPcPc + 16 5 Plugin 0x0acf91f4 V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes__Fv + 36 6 Plugin 0x0acdf2b0 PluginEntry + 16 7 Plugin 0x0acc4484 main + 100 8 Plugin 0x06acc884 0x6aad000 + 129156 9 Plugin 0x06acbb4c 0x6aad000 + 125772 10 Plugin 0x06acaf78 0x6aad000 + 122744 11 Plugin 0x06ab0828 0x6aad000 + 14376 12 main 0x022978dc 0x2008000 + 2685148 13 main 0x022aee7c 0x2008000 + 2780796 14 main 0x02296c14 0x2008000 + 2681876 15 main 0x022a9a38 0x2008000 + 2759224 16 main 0x0203b1e8 0x2008000 + 209384 17 0x005908b0 0x4eb000 + 678064 18 0x0059078c 0x4eb000 + 677772 19 main 0x0293d99c 0x2008000 + 9656732 20 main 0x0293e30c 0x2008000 + 9659148 21 main 0x020085bc 0x2008000 + 1468 22 main 0x0294a88c 0x2008000 + 9709708 23 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90b66d2c CCFM_LaunchApplication + 488 24 LaunchCFMApp 0x000024b0 main + 388 (crt.c:355) 25 LaunchCFMApp 0x00001b7c _start + 348 (crt.c:272) 26 LaunchCFMApp 0x00001a1c start + 60 This isn?t a disaster, but it does mean that I need the Carbon Vcomponents to be in the right place, even if I only want to develop for MachO. Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:06:11 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/2/06 5:39 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> I just tried Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen in Rb2006r1 with the latest beta >> for Macho. I changed the project's build settings to be "Mac OS Only", built >> the application, and copied the VComponents into the >> MyApplication.app/Contents/ folder. I then launched the project. It crashes >> with the same error message: > > Strange. Okay I will again check archive from site. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060202/66acd2e7/attachment-0001.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 10:03:30 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 02:05:59 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/3/06 12:23 AM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > Another thing I've just discovered: > > If I use the new plugin (2.2b6), but don't have the Carbon version of > Vcomponents in /Library/CFMsupport/Vcomponents, then REALbasic won't launch (I > get this error): I think this is because REALBasic in fact choose CARBON version of plugin. I think there is sense to ask about ORDER of load of plugins, Or how RB choose between Carbon and Macho plugin. Hmm, I can try remove carbon plugin from V4RB.rbx at all And see what happens. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 10:06:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 02:09:06 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/06 11:45 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: Hi Charles, >> You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. >> >> It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs >> -------------- > > What does this mean? I have been using V4Rb 2 in Mach-O applications > in-house for a few months. You mean that you have Build Option MacOS 9 and MacOSX = OFF MacOS X only = ON. ? And you get MyApplication.app ? Then I assume that you did this only on your own developer computer. And you have not try copy that app to other clean computer. Problem was that MACHO .app package will expect to see VComponents folder at app/contents/VComponents folder. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Fri Feb 3 10:35:12 2006 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Fri Feb 3 09:37:48 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8485becc3427370dfe9a6ab1fc81a7bc@desuetude.com> On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:06 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 2/2/06 11:45 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > > Hi Charles, > >>> You can find now on beta page link to V4RB_2_MACHO archive. >>> >>> It contains all: plugin, examples, VComponents folder with macho libs >>> -------------- >> >> What does this mean? I have been using V4Rb 2 in Mach-O applications >> in-house for a few months. > > You mean that you have Build Option > > MacOS 9 and MacOSX = OFF > MacOS X only = ON. > ? > > And you get MyApplication.app ? Yes. > > Then I assume that you did this only on your own developer computer. > And you have not try copy that app to other clean computer. > > Problem was that MACHO .app package will expect to see VComponents > folder at > app/contents/VComponents folder. I have to install the VComponents on each computer, of course. Since I have more than one application, this is more efficient. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 19:37:42 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 11:40:13 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: <8485becc3427370dfe9a6ab1fc81a7bc@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 2/3/06 5:35 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Then I assume that you did this only on your own developer computer. >> And you have not try copy that app to other clean computer. >> >> Problem was that MACHO .app package will expect to see VComponents >> folder at >> app/contents/VComponents folder. > > I have to install the VComponents on each computer, of course. Since I > have more than one application, this is more efficient. Right, But in fact you have Carbon-MACHO Application which work with CARBON VComponents folder. and V4RB plugin is used CARBON. BTW, one of advantage of V4RB MACHO plugin is that it use true OS X sockets. CARBON plugin uses emulator library GUSI, which is about 3 times slower of native sockets. So developers who use V4RB + Vserver should prefer now V4RB MACHO And build apps as MacOS X only... YET for e.g. Charles we need find way how to make this working when VComponents is outside. REALbasic with its idea put all into .rbx format cause problems here again. You cannot get access to plugin.dylib to change its settings using command line utils of OS X -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 20:49:14 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 12:51:43 2006 Subject: A quick question. RBDB and Vdatabase together? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/3/06 8:22 PM, "Norman Palardy" wrote: Hi Norman, Hi All, Norman have raise issue which was on hold all this time: How we can use in the same time RBDB and Valentina API. Idea is next: * REALbasic offer class Database * V4RB have class VRBDatabase inherited from Database. * V4RB have VDatabase. I have try inherit Vdatabase from VRBDatabase. compile in RB app it works fine. So there is no any possible conflicts between methods of classes. This is good. * I have check as V4RB native examples, so RBB example. All works fine. * So in ideal developer which want this will do dim vdb as VDatabase = new Vdatabase -- and this is also VRBDaatbase. which we can use everythere as RBDB database. Actually still here some work todo I think, Because each class VRBDatabase and Vdatabase keep own pointers to internal engine objects. I need find way join this. So far all looks promising. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 21:41:26 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 13:43:56 2006 Subject: A quick question In-Reply-To: <0d5a87430eb99a6b18b9f2dbb8427c00@great-white-software.com> Message-ID: On 2/3/06 9:32 PM, "Norman Palardy" wrote: >> [OFF a little] >> >> So in RBDB recordset was on the first record from start >> >> I believe ODBC style says that recodset on start has position BEFORE >> first >> record. And ODBC style use the next syntax which is the most short. >> >> rs = db.sqlselect ( ... some query ... ) >> while( rs.NextODBC() ) >> >> wend >> >> If I not mistake this syntax must work for Valentina also. >> Aha, we have not exposure to V4RB function NextRecordODBC(). >> Bad. WE will do this for next build. >> >> But this is not primary syntax for Valentina. Read more. >> Mainly because I do not like idea that recordset can have position >> BEFORE >> first record. IMHO this is not natural idea. > > Ahhh ok > Java RecordSets behave like this too so the style is to write > > while r.nextrecord > > ... do something ... > wend Norman, above I have write that THIS NOT WORKS! And right now I have add to V4RB 4 new methods. Vcursor.NextRecord_ODBC Vcursor.PrevRecord_ODBC Vcursor.FirstRecord_ODBC Vcursor.LastRecord_ODBC I do new example now to test them. So if okay then new build of V4RB will support such syntax. I think in about 30-60 minutes I will get results how it works. You need use for now > r = vdb.SqlSelect("select field1 from test2") > > // we check if cursor have at least one record: > if( r.FirstRecord() ) then > do > > > while( r.NextRecord() ) > endif Or wait up to tomorrow may be for next beta build -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 22:30:19 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 14:32:49 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b7 uploaded. Message-ID: Hi All, http://www.paradigmasoft.com/download/beta/ You can download V4RB 2.2 b7 Added 4 new functions Vcursor.NextRecord_ODBC Vcursor.PrevRecord_ODBC Vcursor.FirstRecord_ODBC Vcursor.LastRecord_ODBC This allow use the most short style to iterate cursor ONCE and FORWARD. This is ODBC style. curs = SLECT while( curs.NextRecord_ODBC ) ... wend ATTENTION: do not mix this 4 navigation functions with normal Vcursor functions !!!! They use different logic and different counters. You can see new EXAMPLE: Sql_way/VCursor_ODBC_StyleLoop -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Fri Feb 3 16:19:08 2006 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Fri Feb 3 15:21:37 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b7 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <862fd3ca1560ded76a7655c779a54060@desuetude.com> I wonder if a separate ODBCCursor class might be the way to go. -------------- Charles Yeomans On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/download/beta/ > > You can download V4RB 2.2 b7 > > Added 4 new functions > > Vcursor.NextRecord_ODBC > Vcursor.PrevRecord_ODBC > Vcursor.FirstRecord_ODBC > Vcursor.LastRecord_ODBC > > This allow use the most short style to iterate cursor ONCE and FORWARD. > This is ODBC style. > > curs = SLECT > > while( curs.NextRecord_ODBC ) > ... > wend > > ATTENTION: do not mix this 4 navigation functions > with normal Vcursor functions !!!! > They use different logic and different counters. > > > You can see new EXAMPLE: Sql_way/VCursor_ODBC_StyleLoop From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 3 23:36:04 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 3 15:38:34 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b7 uploaded. In-Reply-To: <862fd3ca1560ded76a7655c779a54060@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 2/3/06 11:19 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: Hi Charles, > I wonder if a separate ODBCCursor class might be the way to go. But how we will produce it ? Then also required separate SqlSelectODBC() ... Too much. Agree? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Feb 4 16:55:28 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Feb 4 09:25:39 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b8 uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, kernel - 2.2 b8 =============== - 0001308: [Cursors] Crash in VCursor.ToArraySet() for some kinds of queries. (Ruslan Zasukhin) - 0001306: [Encryption] Create field and add records after encrypt database goes to incorrect data store. (Ivan Smahin) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060204/14dc30a7/attachment-0001.html From Ed at Kleban.com Sat Feb 4 12:08:42 2006 From: Ed at Kleban.com (Ed Kleban) Date: Sat Feb 4 12:11:20 2006 Subject: Mach-O V4RB? In-Reply-To: <200602021205.k12C5wPc005473@mail2.sunflow.com> Message-ID: It would be great if after all the dust settles on this someone would write a "Simple guide to making RB Apps with Valentina" either as a chapter of the V4RB reference or on a Wiki page. Thanks! --Ed On 2/2/06 6:01 AM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > Fantastic :-) > > I should add that if you select *both* of "Mac OS X/Classic" and "Mac OS X > only" in the Build Settings, then "Mac OS X/Classic" (i.e. Carbon PEF) is > used by default when you debug. So you have to be sure to *just* select > "Mac OS X only" (and uncheck "Mac OS X/Classic") to debug as MachO by > default. > > Dave. > > ------------------------------------ > Dave Addey > dave@dj1800.com > > DJ-1800 > Complete DJ solution for the Mac > http://www.dj1800.com/ > > Support and pre-release forums: > http://forums.dj1800.com/ > > >> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:48:31 +0200 >> To: Dave Addey , "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" >> >> Conversation: Mach-O V4RB? >> Subject: Re: Mach-O V4RB? >> >> On 2/2/06 1:42 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >> >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> >>> That would be even better :-) I've found that RB chooses the Mac OS format >>> to use based on your Build settings. So, if you have "Mac OS X only" >>> selected in Build Settings, then it will debug as MachO too. Does that >>> help? >> >> Then just EXCELLENT !!!!! :-)) >> >>> Dave. >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> Dave Addey >>> dave@dj1800.com >>> >>> DJ-1800 >>> Complete DJ solution for the Mac >>> http://www.dj1800.com/ >>> >>> Support and pre-release forums: >>> http://forums.dj1800.com/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >>>> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:38:48 +0200 >>>> To: Dave Addey >>>> Conversation: Mach-O V4RB? >>>> Subject: Re: Mach-O V4RB? >>>> >>>> On 2/2/06 1:25 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> I think exists simpler way to test macho libs during development: >>>> >>>> * you can remove VComponents Carbon from CFMSupport >>>> * insert VComponents macho into REALbasic.app/Contents/VComponents >>>> >>>> Only problem -- how to make REALbasic to choose on start NOT Carbon but >>>> macho plugin. >>>> >>>> We need try this way, may be carbon plugin simply will fail to load because >>>> no VComponents Carbon, so RB will try to load MACHO plugin. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Feb 4 15:18:38 2006 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Feb 4 14:21:09 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b7 uploaded. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <631ed11daaa61e1afc27ab8113b05697@desuetude.com> On Feb 3, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 2/3/06 11:19 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > > Hi Charles, > >> I wonder if a separate ODBCCursor class might be the way to go. > > But how we will produce it ? > > Then also required separate SqlSelectODBC() ... > > Too much. Agree? Not necessarily -- perhaps there should be a corresponding ODBCDatabase class that overrides SQLSelect. I don't know enough about ODBC to really understand the problems. Probably the simplest solution would be to force ODBC users to accept your view of how cursors should work :) -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Feb 4 22:25:01 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Feb 4 14:27:33 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b7 uploaded. In-Reply-To: <631ed11daaa61e1afc27ab8113b05697@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 2/4/06 10:18 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: Hi Charles, >>> I wonder if a separate ODBCCursor class might be the way to go. >> >> But how we will produce it ? >> >> Then also required separate SqlSelectODBC() ... >> >> Too much. Agree? > > Not necessarily -- perhaps there should be a corresponding ODBCDatabase > class that overrides SQLSelect. I don't know enough about ODBC to > really understand the problems. Probably the simplest solution would > be to force ODBC users to accept your view of how cursors should work > :) :-) Let they have choice. Also we have implement this functions on engine level first of all for VPHP, because all PHP + db API use this logic. Later we have use this in RBDB API also, because here REAL use the same logic. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From daniel.fleury at free.fr Mon Feb 6 11:48:03 2006 From: daniel.fleury at free.fr (Daniel FLEURY) Date: Mon Feb 6 04:50:38 2006 Subject: Can't compile any Mach-O In-Reply-To: <20060206100000.26D313EAE8F@edison.macserve.net> References: <20060206100000.26D313EAE8F@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: >Message: 9 >Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:57:10 +0100 >From: Erne >Subject: Can't compile any Mach-O >To: Valentina Developers >Message-ID: <3F835412-0F2B-441A-8DC9-49DF305FA0FE@tiscalinet.it> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > >Hello Ruslan, > >I've downloaded V4RB_22b8_mac.dmg and V4RB_22b6_macho.dmg > >I've set up a copy of RB to work with Mach-O vComponents >and another to work with vComponents inside the CFM support folder > >but if I try to debug with build settings Mac OS x only (Mach-O) >(with either copy of RB) >I get a plugin method Valentina.CacheSize not found message I get same message if I change V4RB's name in RB plugin folder regards daniel From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Feb 8 14:04:07 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Wed Feb 8 08:08:04 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I have found out why I was getting this crash. I tried compiling Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen with just the V4RB 2.2b6 plugin (from the Macho package), and no other plugins, and the compiled application launched fine! But, when I add the MonkeyBread plugins to my REALbasic /Plugins/ folder, and compile, then I get the error message below. Just to be clear, I am compiling the built application, and then opening the package and copying the MachO VComponents folder to MyApp.app/Contents/Vcomponents. As I say, with just V4RB 2.2b6, the built application does launch, but with MonkeyBread as well, it does not. As a test, I tried adding some other plugins in to the /Plugins/ folder. Even with ElfData, Einhugur?s StyleGrid and DataGrid, and my own custom plugin, there were no problems. It was only when I added the MonkeyBread plugins that I had the crash problem. I am using MonkeyBread plugins version 5.4. So, it is not just V4RB?s fault! But I do need to be able to use the MBS plugins too :-) Interestingly, the Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen application doesn?t use the MBS plugins, so I don?t know why they cause a problem for the compiled application. But they do. Hope this helps! RB 2006r1, Mac OS X 10.4.4. Dave. From: Dave Addey Reply-To: Valentina Beta Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:39:38 +0000 To: Valentina Beta Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 Hi Ruslan, I just tried Common/Database_CreateCloseOpen in Rb2006r1 with the latest beta for Macho. I changed the project's build settings to be "Mac OS Only", built the application, and copied the VComponents into the MyApplication.app/Contents/ folder. I then launched the project. It crashes with the same error message: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb68 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU [in-charge deleting]() + 76 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f8 fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String [in-charge]() + 88 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00774010 V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077408c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + 92 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00761b9c PluginEntry + 28 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074f284 REALPluginMain + 112 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + 28 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:34:36 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/2/06 5:24 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> I downloaded the new archive. >> >> Good news: no linker errors any more for the build application. >> >> Bad news: I just tried it, and I get this crash on application startup: > > Please try V4RB examples. > > I have try e.g. Common/Database_CreateCloseOepn > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta _______________________________________________ Valentina-beta mailing list Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060208/2bcfca3a/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 8 17:47:42 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 8 09:50:28 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/06 4:04 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > I have found out why I was getting this crash. I tried compiling > Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen with just the V4RB 2.2b6 plugin (from the Macho > package), and no other plugins, and the compiled application launched fine! > But, when I add the MonkeyBread plugins to my REALbasic /Plugins/ folder, and > compile, then I get the error message below. > > Just to be clear, I am compiling the built application, and then opening the > package and copying the MachO VComponents folder to > MyApp.app/Contents/Vcomponents. As I say, with just V4RB 2.2b6, the built > application does launch, but with MonkeyBread as well, it does not. > > As a test, I tried adding some other plugins in to the /Plugins/ folder. Even > with ElfData, Einhugur?s StyleGrid and DataGrid, and my own custom plugin, > there were no problems. It was only when I added the MonkeyBread plugins that > I had the crash problem. I am using MonkeyBread plugins version 5.4. > > So, it is not just V4RB?s fault! But I do need to be able to use the MBS > plugins too :-) Interesting yes? Then try contact Christian...since other plugins do not affect ... > Interestingly, the Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen application doesn?t use the MBS > plugins, so I don?t know why they cause a problem for the compiled > application. But they do. > > Hope this helps! RB 2006r1, Mac OS X 10.4.4. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Feb 8 15:57:02 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Wed Feb 8 10:00:01 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Heh! I was rather hoping you might contact Christian, as I am sure he will say "speak to Ruslan, no other plugins cause problems with the MonkeyBread plugins" if I ask him! I am sure it is easily fixable, but I have no idea what to ask... Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:47:42 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/8/06 4:04 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> I have found out why I was getting this crash. I tried compiling >> Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen with just the V4RB 2.2b6 plugin (from the Macho >> package), and no other plugins, and the compiled application launched fine! >> But, when I add the MonkeyBread plugins to my REALbasic /Plugins/ folder, and >> compile, then I get the error message below. >> >> Just to be clear, I am compiling the built application, and then opening the >> package and copying the MachO VComponents folder to >> MyApp.app/Contents/Vcomponents. As I say, with just V4RB 2.2b6, the built >> application does launch, but with MonkeyBread as well, it does not. >> >> As a test, I tried adding some other plugins in to the /Plugins/ folder. >> Even >> with ElfData, Einhugur?s StyleGrid and DataGrid, and my own custom plugin, >> there were no problems. It was only when I added the MonkeyBread plugins >> that >> I had the crash problem. I am using MonkeyBread plugins version 5.4. >> >> So, it is not just V4RB?s fault! But I do need to be able to use the MBS >> plugins too :-) > > Interesting yes? > > Then try contact Christian...since other plugins do not affect ... > >> Interestingly, the Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen application doesn?t use the MBS >> plugins, so I don?t know why they cause a problem for the compiled >> application. But they do. >> >> Hope this helps! RB 2006r1, Mac OS X 10.4.4. > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 8 18:01:44 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 8 10:04:26 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/06 5:57 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, Hi Christian, > Hi Ruslan, > > Heh! I was rather hoping you might contact Christian, as I am sure he will > say "speak to Ruslan, no other plugins cause problems with the MonkeyBread > plugins" if I ask him! I have CC to Christian. So you Dave point that only V4RB + MBS conflict. V4RB + others = works MBS + others = works > I am sure it is easily fixable, but I have no idea what to ask... I am not so optimistic. > Dave. > >> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >> Reply-To: Valentina Beta >> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:47:42 +0200 >> To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" >> Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 >> Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 >> >> On 2/8/06 4:04 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >> >> Hi Dave, >> >>> I have found out why I was getting this crash. I tried compiling >>> Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen with just the V4RB 2.2b6 plugin (from the Macho >>> package), and no other plugins, and the compiled application launched fine! >>> But, when I add the MonkeyBread plugins to my REALbasic /Plugins/ folder, >>> and compile, then I get the error message below. >>> >>> Just to be clear, I am compiling the built application, and then opening the >>> package and copying the MachO VComponents folder to >>> MyApp.app/Contents/Vcomponents. As I say, with just V4RB 2.2b6, the built >>> application does launch, but with MonkeyBread as well, it does not. >>> >>> As a test, I tried adding some other plugins in to the /Plugins/ folder. >>> Even with ElfData, Einhugur?s StyleGrid and DataGrid, and my own custom >>> plugin, there were no problems. It was only when I added the MonkeyBread >>> plugins that I had the crash problem. I am using MonkeyBread plugins >>> version 5.4. >>> >>> So, it is not just V4RB?s fault! But I do need to be able to use the MBS >>> plugins too :-) >> >> Interesting yes? >> >> Then try contact Christian...since other plugins do not affect ... >> >>> Interestingly, the Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen application doesn?t use the MBS >>> plugins, so I don?t know why they cause a problem for the compiled >>> application. But they do. >>> >>> Hope this helps! RB 2006r1, Mac OS X 10.4.4. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Feb 8 16:22:20 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Wed Feb 8 10:25:05 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan / Christian, (Firstly, hello Christian ? we?re trying to work out what is causing a problem with using the new Valentina for MachO plugin, and the MBS plugins, at the same time.) I have a problem when I compile a MachO application using V4RB Macho 2.2b6 and MBS 5.4. I am compiling the application in REALbasic 2006r1 and then copying the Valentina MachO VComponents folder to MyApp.app/Contents/VComponents/ . When I run the built application, I get a crash. This only happens when I have both V4RB beta and the MBS plugins in my REALbasic /Plugins/ folder. If I remove the MBS plugins from REALbasic?s /Plugins/, I don?t get the crash. I should add that the application doesn?t actually use the MonkeyBread plugins at all. I am testing with one of the Valentina test applications, /V4RB/Examples/Common/DB_CreateCloseOpen.rb , compiled for MachO only. As a test, I thought I should check if the problem still occurs with MBS 6.0, and it does. I still get the same crash when I run my compiled MachO application: Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb04 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU [in-charge deleting]() + 76 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f0 fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String [in-charge]() + 88 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00773010 V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077308c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + 92 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00760b9c PluginEntry + 28 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074e284 REALPluginMain + 112 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + 28 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 Christian, do you have any idea what might be causing the conflict between V4RB and MBS? Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:01:44 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" , > Christian Schmitz > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/8/06 5:57 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > Hi Christian, > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> Heh! I was rather hoping you might contact Christian, as I am sure he will >> say "speak to Ruslan, no other plugins cause problems with the MonkeyBread >> plugins" if I ask him! > > I have CC to Christian. > > So you Dave point that only V4RB + MBS conflict. > > V4RB + others = works > MBS + others = works > >> I am sure it is easily fixable, but I have no idea what to ask... > > I am not so optimistic. > >> Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But how MBS affect this is not clear... > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 > 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 > 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 > 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 > 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 > 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 > 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb04 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU > [in-charge deleting]() + 76 > 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f0 > fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 > 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String > [in-charge]() + 88 > 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00773010 > V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 > 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077308c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + 92 > 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00760b9c PluginEntry + 28 > 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074e284 REALPluginMain + 112 > 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 > 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 > 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + > 28 > 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 > 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 > 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 > 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 > > Christian, do you have any idea what might be causing the conflict between > V4RB and MBS? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Feb 8 16:46:50 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Wed Feb 8 10:49:35 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan / Christian, I wonder... Given where the crash occurs (in V4RB_AddConstant), are both plugins defining a constant with the same name? Or doing something else which is re-defining the same thing in both plugins? Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:32:49 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > On 2/8/06 6:22 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Actually we can see that crash is inside of Valentina... > But how MBS affect this is not clear... > > > >> Thread 0 Crashed: >> 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 >> 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 >> 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 >> 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 >> 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 >> 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 >> 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb04 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU >> [in-charge deleting]() + 76 >> 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f0 >> fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 >> 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String >> [in-charge]() + 88 >> 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00773010 >> V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 >> 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077308c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + >> 92 >> 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00760b9c PluginEntry + 28 >> 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074e284 REALPluginMain + 112 >> 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 >> 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 >> 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + >> 28 >> 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 >> 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 >> 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 >> 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 >> >> Christian, do you have any idea what might be causing the conflict between >> V4RB and MBS? > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Feb 8 18:03:29 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Wed Feb 8 12:06:12 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan / Christian, I have narrowed the problem down further. Here is a list of all of the MBS plugin parts. I have shown which ones can live in the /Plugins/ folder with no problem, and which ones cause the crash to occur. I hope this helps! Dongle - fine JPEG - fine Libs - fine Mac - fine Main - fine OSX - crashes! PDFLib - fine QT - fine Win - fine So the crash only occurs when the OSX plugin is used. All other plugin parts are fine. I tried using the MBS Plugin Manager to narrow the problem down further, using MBS 6.0. But, even with the plugin manager set to "All off", I still have the crash. Dave. > From: Dave Addey > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:46:50 +0000 > To: Valentina Beta > Cc: Christian Schmitz > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 > > Hi Ruslan / Christian, > > I wonder... Given where the crash occurs (in V4RB_AddConstant), are both > plugins defining a constant with the same name? Or doing something else > which is re-defining the same thing in both plugins? > > Dave. > >> From: Ruslan Zasukhin >> Reply-To: Valentina Beta >> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:32:49 +0200 >> To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" >> Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 >> Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 >> >> On 2/8/06 6:22 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: >> >> Actually we can see that crash is inside of Valentina... >> But how MBS affect this is not clear... >> >> >> >>> Thread 0 Crashed: >>> 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90003008 strlen + 8 >>> 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012bb8c _simple_vdprintf + 3544 >>> 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9012c404 _simple_dprintf + 52 >>> 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90126b50 malloc_printf + 180 >>> 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900076dc szone_free + 4060 >>> 5 vsdk_macho.dylib 0x0221fa78 operator delete(void*) + 32 >>> 6 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x058bfb04 fbl::String_ICU::~String_ICU >>> [in-charge deleting]() + 76 >>> 7 Kernel_Macho_BSD_Final.dylib 0x05a009f0 >>> fbl::I_Unknown_Impl::Release() const + 52 >>> 8 VShared_Macho_CW.dylib 0x01634780 fbl::String::~String >>> [in-charge]() + 88 >>> 9 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00773010 >>> V4RB_AddConstant(fbl::ErrorEntry*, unsigned long) + 200 >>> 10 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0077308c V4RB_RegisterErrorCodes() + >>> 92 >>> 11 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x00760b9c PluginEntry + 28 >>> 12 V4RB.rbx_0.129.dylib 0x0074e284 REALPluginMain + 112 >>> 13 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e3b0 Z16LoadMachOPluginsv + 1292 >>> 14 rbframework.dylib 0x0039e46c LoadPlugins + 52 >>> 15 rbframework.dylib 0x00407f70 RuntimeInitExternalClasses + >>> 28 >>> 16 My Application 0x000090d4 _Main + 68 >>> 17 My Application 0x000014f8 % main + 56 >>> 18 My Application 0x000a43cc _start + 184 >>> 19 My Application 0x000a429c start + 48 >>> >>> Christian, do you have any idea what might be causing the conflict between >>> V4RB and MBS? >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ruslan Zasukhin >> VP Engineering and New Technology >> Paradigma Software, Inc >> >> Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com >> >> [I feel the need: the need for speed] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Valentina-beta mailing list >> Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net >> http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 9 00:27:28 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 8 16:30:16 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/8/06 8:03 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave > Hi Ruslan / Christian, > > I have narrowed the problem down further. Here is a list of all of the MBS > plugin parts. I have shown which ones can live in the /Plugins/ folder with > no problem, and which ones cause the crash to occur. I hope this helps! > > Dongle - fine > JPEG - fine > Libs - fine > Mac - fine > Main - fine > OSX - crashes! > PDFLib - fine > QT - fine > Win - fine > > So the crash only occurs when the OSX plugin is used. All other plugin > parts are fine. > > I tried using the MBS Plugin Manager to narrow the problem down further, > using MBS 6.0. But, even with the plugin manager set to "All off", I still > have the crash. Can you give me URL to this OSX plugin ? What is it doing? So to start crash enough only have it in plugins folder? Does this plugin have Carbon/Macho/Windows parts -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 9 08:44:41 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 9 02:47:33 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MACHO uploaded 2.2 b6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan. >> OSX - crashes! >> >> So the crash only occurs when the OSX plugin is used. All other plugin >> parts are fine. > Can you give me URL to this OSX plugin ? Go to http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.info/realbasic/plugins.shtml and download the file MBS-RB-Plugins60Mac.dmg . >From the disk image, copy ?MBS REALbasic OSX Plugin? into your REALbasic /Plugins/ folder. Then, launch RB2006r1, and build the Database_CreateCloseOpen test application as MachO. > What is it doing? I think that this particular plugin contains all of the Mac OS X specific parts of the MBS plugins. Christian has split the MBS plugin into several parts, to enable users to only work with the parts they need. To see exactly what is contained within the OSX plugin, look at this page: http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.info/pluginhelp/plugins-mbsrealbasicosxplugin .shtml > So to start crash enough only have it in plugins folder? Yes. To get the crash, all you have to do is to have the ?MBS REALbasic OSX Plugin? in your Plugins folder when you compile the application. This is true even though the built application does not use the MBS plugin at all. If you remove the plugin and build the application, then it works fine. (In both cases you need to copy VComponents into the built application?s MachO bundle, obviously.) > Does this plugin have Carbon/Macho/Windows parts I?m not entirely sure. This part of the MBS plugin contains all of the code which works on OSX only, I think. But it may still contain ?wrapper? code for Carbon and Windows, to make RB think that it has all three, even though the plugin only does anything on OSX. Christian is the right person to ask :-) Once you have the MBS plugin in your /Plugins/ folder, hopefully you will be able to replicate the problem on your computer. Christian?s comment to the betas list sounds like a possible cause of the crash: >> From: Christian Schmitz >> >> szone_free is calling printf, so I expect it wants to print this warning >> about double free on the console. >> >> Check your code. Looks like you free something one time too often or you >> free a constant string. >> >> Mfg >> Christian I hope this helps, and good luck tracking down the problem! Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060209/47760d90/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 9 19:40:07 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 9 11:42:53 2006 Subject: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/9/06 7:16 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Hi there, > > Is there a download of the 2.2 beta VComponents for Windows? I am compiling a > Win32 application in REALbasic using the 2.2b6 plugin, but it will not run on > Windows using the 2.1 Vcomponents on Windows. > > This page lists a link for 2.2b3 for Windows, but the link is broken: > > http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB Hi Dave, Right now no. I try fix one nasty bug...then will be new build -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Thu Feb 9 19:11:26 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Thu Feb 9 12:14:14 2006 Subject: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6E07BD05-6BF6-49A1-AB0D-7EC80B352928@mac.com> Is it my bug? :) ~/Stan > On 2/9/06 7:16 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Is there a download of the 2.2 beta VComponents for Windows? I am >> compiling a >> Win32 application in REALbasic using the 2.2b6 plugin, but it will >> not run on >> Windows using the 2.1 Vcomponents on Windows. >> >> This page lists a link for 2.2b3 for Windows, but the link is broken: >> >> http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB > > Hi Dave, > > Right now no. > > I try fix one nasty bug...then will be new build > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 9 21:12:55 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 9 13:15:47 2006 Subject: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows In-Reply-To: <6E07BD05-6BF6-49A1-AB0D-7EC80B352928@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2/9/06 8:11 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > > Is it my bug? :) Yes. 4 days of hunting. Crazy -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Thu Feb 9 21:54:49 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Thu Feb 9 15:57:35 2006 Subject: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 4 *days*? That's nasty. Good luck! Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:12:55 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows > Subject: Re: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows > > On 2/9/06 8:11 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> >> Is it my bug? :) > > Yes. > > 4 days of hunting. Crazy > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 10 00:56:02 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 9 16:58:47 2006 Subject: 2.2 V4RB betas for Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/9/06 11:54 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: FIXED! :-) > 4 *days*? That's nasty. > > Good luck! >> On 2/9/06 8:11 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> >>> Is it my bug? :) >> >> Yes. >> >> 4 days of hunting. Crazy -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 10 20:33:32 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 10 12:36:21 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b10 uploaded. Message-ID: Hi All, You can download it here: http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB Windows build on the way. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 10 21:11:42 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 10 13:14:32 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b10 uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, Stan, please check your bug -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Fri Feb 10 21:35:18 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Fri Feb 10 14:38:08 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB WIN 2.2 b10 uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F314E0A-81BD-48C1-921D-633FE07B0CE2@mac.com> IT ROCKS!!!! I will finally be able to release my app next week. Thanks a lot, ~Stan > Hi All, > > Stan, please check your bug > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Sat Feb 11 00:44:46 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Fri Feb 10 18:47:33 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b10 uploaded. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, That's great news - congratulations on the Windows fix! Any news on MachO? :-) Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:33:32 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b10 uploaded. > Subject: [ANN] V4RB MAC 2.2 b10 uploaded. > > Hi All, > > You can download it here: > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta/V4RB > > Windows build on the way. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Feb 12 00:48:23 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Feb 11 16:51:15 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b11 MAC uploaded Message-ID: Fixed bug reported by Jon: If you create Table Method using API, and if you have in text of method unicode chars it works not correctly. Fixed. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Sat Feb 11 17:55:57 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sat Feb 11 16:58:52 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b11 MAC uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Fixed bug reported by Jon: > > If you create Table Method using API, > and if you have in text of method unicode chars > it works not correctly. > >Fixed. > Thank you Ivan! Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Feb 12 11:07:55 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Feb 12 03:10:51 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b11 MAC uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/12/06 12:55 AM, "jda" wrote: >> Fixed bug reported by Jon: >> >> If you create Table Method using API, >> and if you have in text of method unicode chars >> it works not correctly. >> >> Fixed. >> > > Thank you Ivan! So you have check it and it works, yes, Jon? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Sun Feb 12 04:14:21 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sun Feb 12 03:17:15 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b11 MAC uploaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >> Fixed bug reported by Jon: >>> >>> If you create Table Method using API, >>> and if you have in text of method unicode chars >>> it works not correctly. >>> >>> Fixed. >>> >> >> Thank you Ivan! > >So you have check it and it works, yes, Jon? > Hi Ruslan, Yes. What was the solution? Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Feb 12 11:20:57 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Feb 12 03:23:52 2006 Subject: [ANN] V4RB 2.2 b11 MAC uploaded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/12/06 11:14 AM, "jda" wrote: >> So you have check it and it works, yes, Jon? >> > > Hi Ruslan, > > Yes. What was the solution? Simply was not point pointed UTF8 converter for string before parse it. This is thanks to not following rule: Cut a hand that write double code. Cut both hands that write double data. :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Mon Feb 13 17:51:06 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Mon Feb 13 11:54:00 2006 Subject: Macho build? Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Any news on the Macho build? Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060213/2981577f/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Feb 13 20:59:40 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Feb 13 13:02:38 2006 Subject: Macho build? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/13/06 7:51 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > Hi Ruslan, > > Any news on the Macho build? All I can say is that it will work only for RELEASE build. Also I have decide that V4RB_MAC will contains V4RB.rbx (0.8MB) without macho. Problem is that with it people get problems debugging apps as OS X only. Actually this is not very correct to debug with this option, but they want. So, V4RB_MACHO will contains V4RB.rbx (1.4MB) with macho plugin also. And steps are very confusing: 1) you MUST download and install V4RB_mac 2) you must then download V4RB_Macho 3) drop V4RB.rbx into plugins 4) build your app as OS X Only 5) copy into App the VComponents macho. This is ONLY what we can get for now. Debugging will not work until REAL will make REALbasic as true MACHO application. Revolution is true macho, and we have no problems with debugging, we just drop VComponents macho into Revolution/Contents and it works fine. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Mon Feb 13 20:08:31 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Mon Feb 13 14:11:25 2006 Subject: Macho build? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, That is unfortunate (for the reasons you list), but is fine for me! Did you manage to solve the conflict with the MonkeyBread plugin? Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:59:40 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: Macho build? > Subject: Re: Macho build? > > On 2/13/06 7:51 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> Any news on the Macho build? > > All I can say is that it will work only for RELEASE build. > > Also I have decide that V4RB_MAC will contains V4RB.rbx (0.8MB) without > macho. > Problem is that with it people get problems debugging apps as OS X only. > Actually this is not very correct to debug with this option, but they want. > > > So, V4RB_MACHO will contains V4RB.rbx (1.4MB) with macho plugin also. > > And steps are very confusing: > > 1) you MUST download and install V4RB_mac > > 2) you must then download V4RB_Macho > > 3) drop V4RB.rbx into plugins > > 4) build your app as OS X Only > > 5) copy into App the VComponents macho. > > > > This is ONLY what we can get for now. Debugging will not work until REAL > will make REALbasic as true MACHO application. > > Revolution is true macho, and we have no problems with debugging, we just > drop VComponents macho into Revolution/Contents and it works fine. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Feb 13 22:22:06 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Feb 13 14:25:05 2006 Subject: Macho build? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/13/06 10:08 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > That is unfortunate (for the reasons you list), but is fine for me! Did you > manage to solve the conflict with the MonkeyBread plugin? Not yet. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Feb 14 22:32:38 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Feb 14 14:35:44 2006 Subject: [Attention] Mantis moved. Make new BookMarks please. Message-ID: Hi All, We have move Mantis (our bug tracker) Now it is located at http://valentina-db.com/bt/ Please fix your bookmarks. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ernestogiannotta at tiscalinet.it Tue Feb 14 23:19:28 2006 From: ernestogiannotta at tiscalinet.it (Erne) Date: Tue Feb 14 16:22:24 2006 Subject: Macho build? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1642FF3B-22B2-459D-AEC2-31145811886E@tiscalinet.it> Hi Ruslan, On 13-feb-06, at 21:22, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 2/13/06 10:08 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > >> That is unfortunate (for the reasons you list), but is fine for >> me! Did you >> manage to solve the conflict with the MonkeyBread plugin? > > Not yet. > I just want to say I'm interested too I want to release a Mach-O build (some visual RB bug affects my PEF build unfortunately) and need to put all vComponents inside of app bundle Cool Runnings, Erne. / |\ |\ | / ? |/ | \ | ? \ |\ | \| \ From j.peters at valentina-db.de Wed Feb 15 19:01:47 2006 From: j.peters at valentina-db.de (Jochen Peters) Date: Wed Feb 15 12:35:31 2006 Subject: [ANN] Valentina Studio 2.2fc6 uploaded Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Valentina-studio mailing list Valentina-studio@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-studio From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Feb 16 20:31:29 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Feb 16 12:31:58 2006 Subject: C++ SDK for MAC as Universal Binary Message-ID: Hi Valentina C++ Developers, We can produce VSDK_MAC archive as universal binary libs. My question is: you agree that we should drop VSDK with PPC only format ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Tue Feb 21 22:56:45 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Tue Feb 21 16:56:55 2006 Subject: 2.2 and MachO Message-ID: Hi all, Just read Lynn?s post to the REALbasic list, saying that ?Valentina 2.2 ADK for REAL Software's REALbasic includes support for Mach-O?. Did I miss a separate MachO release, or is this still the same MachO support where you put the Vcomponents in /Library/CFMsupport/ ? I could *really* do to start testing native MachO plugins, with the Vcomponents hidden inside the application package... Ruslan, are you any closer to solving the MonkeyBread plugin conflict? Dave. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 22 01:05:50 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Feb 21 17:05:59 2006 Subject: 2.2 and MachO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/22/06 12:56 AM, "Dave Addey" wrote: Hi Dave, > Just read Lynn?s post to the REALbasic list, saying that ?Valentina 2.2 ADK > for REAL Software's REALbasic includes support for Mach-O?. Fixed. > Did I miss a > separate MachO release, or is this still the same MachO support where you > put the Vcomponents in /Library/CFMsupport/ ? > > I could *really* do to start testing native MachO plugins, with the > Vcomponents hidden inside the application package... Ruslan, are you any > closer to solving the MonkeyBread plugin conflict? No, I have not try yet reproduce this conflict. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Feb 22 10:46:25 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Feb 22 02:46:42 2006 Subject: Please note Valentina Database Wiki! Message-ID: Hi All, Please note that we have setup Valentina Database Wiki valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/ We have move here a lots of information from our PDF files. part of VKenrel VSQL.pdf FAQs Tutorials Example Guide We going asap make sure that all info is located here, And drop PDFs for some time. Only V4XX_Reference.pdf will live yet. This is because Wiki is much more comfortable way to provide you up to date information, easy to add/change info. Also exists here area where EVERYBODY from you can write something what you want to share with other people or may be help us with docs. For example we can move your info into our docs later. So please make bookmark on this Wiki, and use it intensively. Learn its syntax (15-20 minutes) if you are not aware to it. Believe you very fast will start love it! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From lfredricks at proactive-intl.com Wed Feb 22 07:38:38 2006 From: lfredricks at proactive-intl.com (Lynn Fredricks) Date: Wed Feb 22 09:38:50 2006 Subject: Want to help with the wiki? (RE: Please note Valentina Database Wiki!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060222153845.38DBC7F03E@spatula.dreamhost.com> > We going asap make sure that all info is located here, And > drop PDFs for some time. > Only V4XX_Reference.pdf will live yet. > > This is because Wiki is much more comfortable way to provide > you up to date information, easy to add/change info. > > Also exists here area where EVERYBODY from you can write > something what you want to share with other people or may be > help us with docs. For example we can move your info into our > docs later. Id like to thank all who have already contributed to the documentation effort, especially -- we would really appreciate any additional feedback or participation. Our goal is to expose as much as our knowledgebase as we can while maintaining enough control to make this a useful site. In addition, a respository of useful articles and tips -- a little live content. One of the challenges we've had especially is that Paradigma is a very international company and a large portion of our staff are not native English speakers. It doesn't always help, for example, for Ruslan's English to be corrected by...our Japanese staff :-) Ruslan and I hope you will take the opportunity to help out - not only in smoothing over rough English but also in helping to expand the communal knowledgebase of how Valentina works. If you'd like to help out, please go ahead and send me an email to discuss -- or just edit away on the public section. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 24 14:33:36 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 24 06:33:40 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds Message-ID: Hi All members of Beta list, I want inform you what to expect in nearest builds. 1) we going put major efforts to improve Valentina Server 2) We work now on adding SQL/XML according to SQL2003 standard. 3) We work now on support of Annotated XSD like MS SQL have. 4) We work now on support of HTTP access to VServer 5) points 2 and 5 open perfect road to using Flash and VServer 6) We work now on adding GRANT/REVOKE/ROLE according to SQL2003 standard 7) We work now on such cosmetic but useful commands as SHOW DATABASES SHOW TABLES SHOW COLUMNS This commands already work, and they will work even in non-server products. ------------ 8) Also we going implement Triggers and Views. But this into 2.4 release. 9) and of course Link improvements as I have discuss with Ed. 10) and we have invent one more cool abstraction to be added into Valentina Database Model. I will not discover for now what is this. 11) and may be after VIEW may be in parallel way we will try implement inheritance ----------- 12) also we consider to add to Vserver support of Rendezvous. 13) also we need probably add support of ADO NET into VNET 14) also we must developer JDBC driver. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Fri Feb 24 08:40:55 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Fri Feb 24 07:41:03 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi All members of Beta list, > >I want inform you what to expect in nearest builds. Hi Ruslan, Although I don't use VServer, I think a big push to improve it is fine. But I would like to remind you that we are nearing the 1 year anniversary of the release of V2 and there are still major features that were promised (like UTF-8 storage) and bugs that were reported at least a year ago that haven't been addressed. I don't want these to be forgotten. Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 24 15:45:39 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 24 07:45:44 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/24/06 3:40 PM, "jda" wrote: >> Hi All members of Beta list, >> >> I want inform you what to expect in nearest builds. > > Hi Ruslan, > > Although I don't use VServer, I think a big push to improve it is > fine. But I would like to remind you that we are nearing the 1 year > anniversary of the release of V2 and there are still major features > that were promised (like UTF-8 storage) and bugs that were reported > at least a year ago that haven't been addressed. I don't want these > to be forgotten. Right, John, although I consider it as bug fix :-) I also do not mention here optimization tasks that also will happens constantly. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Fri Feb 24 14:31:22 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Fri Feb 24 08:31:29 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I have to ask: where does the MachO version of V4RB fit into the roadmap? I couldn't see it anywhere on the list :-( Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:33:36 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds > Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds > > Hi All members of Beta list, > > I want inform you what to expect in nearest builds. > > 1) we going put major efforts to improve Valentina Server > > 2) We work now on adding SQL/XML according to SQL2003 standard. > > 3) We work now on support of Annotated XSD like MS SQL have. > > 4) We work now on support of HTTP access to VServer > > 5) points 2 and 5 open perfect road to using Flash and VServer > > 6) We work now on adding GRANT/REVOKE/ROLE according to SQL2003 standard > > 7) We work now on such cosmetic but useful commands as > > SHOW DATABASES > SHOW TABLES > SHOW COLUMNS > > This commands already work, and they will work even > in non-server products. > > > ------------ > 8) Also we going implement Triggers and Views. But this into 2.4 release. > > 9) and of course Link improvements as I have discuss with Ed. > > 10) and we have invent one more cool abstraction to be added into > Valentina Database Model. I will not discover for now what is this. > > 11) and may be after VIEW may be in parallel way we will try implement > inheritance > > > ----------- > > 12) also we consider to add to Vserver support of Rendezvous. > > 13) also we need probably add support of ADO NET into VNET > > 14) also we must developer JDBC driver. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 24 16:34:43 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 24 08:34:47 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/24/06 4:31 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > I have to ask: where does the MachO version of V4RB fit into the roadmap? I > couldn't see it anywhere on the list :-( Dave, It is on site as release 2.2 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jordan at digi-net.com Fri Feb 24 09:56:17 2006 From: jordan at digi-net.com (Ken Jordan) Date: Fri Feb 24 08:56:18 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43FF1E91.2080002@digi-net.com> Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >On 2/24/06 4:31 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > > > >>Hi Ruslan, >> >>I have to ask: where does the MachO version of V4RB fit into the roadmap? I >>couldn't see it anywhere on the list :-( >> >> > >Dave, > >It is on site as release 2.2 > > And the Linux version of V4RB? :-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20060224/791b80f7/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Feb 24 17:01:02 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Feb 24 09:01:07 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: <43FF1E91.2080002@digi-net.com> Message-ID: On 2/24/06 4:56 PM, "Ken Jordan" wrote: > And the Linux version of V4RB? :-) Anybody from RB developers already have experience of sales Of their applications on Linux ? Compare to other mac + win markets ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Fri Feb 24 15:26:53 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Fri Feb 24 09:26:59 2006 Subject: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, Thanks. My apologies - I didn't realise it was there. Unfortunately, I can't test it until the MonkeyBread plugin conflict is fixed. As soon as this is fixed, I will give it a try. Whilst we're talking about roadmaps, do you have an idea when this fix might be made? :-) Thank you for sharing the road map, by the way. Very useful to know! All the best, Dave. > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Reply-To: Valentina Beta > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:34:43 +0200 > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" > Conversation: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds > Subject: Re: [ANN] ROADMAP for next builds > > On 2/24/06 4:31 PM, "Dave Addey" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> >> I have to ask: where does the MachO version of V4RB fit into the roadmap? I >> couldn't see it anywhere on the list :-( > > Dave, > > It is on site as release 2.2 > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Feb 25 14:02:50 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Feb 25 06:03:03 2006 Subject: [Attn] Mantis now accept files ! Message-ID: Hi All, Please note that Mantis now accept files attached to Bug Reports. I have setup maximum 500Kb for file. Please use compression when you upload. This is more comfortable than send files to me directly, later I send files to developers. Now each developer can extract required file when is needed. So again, please use MANTIS. (as well as Wiki :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ernestogiannotta at tiscalinet.it Sun Feb 26 19:27:20 2006 From: ernestogiannotta at tiscalinet.it (Erne) Date: Sun Feb 26 12:27:27 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! Message-ID: Hello Ruslan & List, this one just to inform you that I can build a working Mach-O app with V4RB_Macho and MBS plugins installed quite tricky since I still can't debug in the same IDE setup as the one used to do the build, but it works! :-) Thank you Ruslan! now looking forward to next step and let we debug with V4RB_Macho installed (way to the top: Include the required VComponents folder in the bundle package automatically ;^) Cool Runnings, Erne. / |\ |\ | / ? |/ | \ | ? \ |\ | \| \ yep! member of the NSC (Never Satisfied Club) From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Feb 26 21:51:29 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Feb 26 13:51:40 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/26/06 8:27 PM, "Erne" wrote: Hi Erne, > Hello Ruslan & List, > > this one just to inform you that I can build a working Mach-O app > with V4RB_Macho and MBS plugins installed > > quite tricky since I still can't debug in the same IDE setup as the > one used to do the build, > but it works! :-) > > Thank you Ruslan! Great! Although I should say I did not make any fix related to MBS... May be you have new MBS ? Or May be release 2.2 build do not have this problem? So Dave also will be happy I think :-) > now looking forward to next step and let we debug with V4RB_Macho > installed > (way to the top: Include the required VComponents folder in the > bundle package automatically ;^) To debug only way -- REALbasic built as Macho app. I think this should happens soon, because REAL need port REALbasic development to xCode to be able produce MacIntel builds also > Cool Runnings, > Erne. > > / |\ |\ | / > ? |/ | \ | ? > \ |\ | \| \ > > yep! member of the NSC (Never Satisfied Club) :-) I also will be member of this club! -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From maxprog at mac.com Sun Feb 26 21:06:02 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Sun Feb 26 14:06:12 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02185699-BAB6-4F73-A904-725238A426AC@mac.com> I have created a very simple droplet that just helps you to do that. You just need to drop your Mach-O application over it and it will copy the whole VComponents into the package /Contents/ folder and then quit. Can't be easier. :) Maybe Ruslan could include it with the V4RB_2_macho distribution ~/Stan > now looking forward to next step and let we debug with V4RB_Macho > installed > (way to the top: Include the required VComponents folder in the > bundle package automatically ;^) From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Feb 26 22:23:57 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Feb 26 14:24:02 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: <02185699-BAB6-4F73-A904-725238A426AC@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2/26/06 10:06 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > I have created a very simple droplet that just helps you to do that. > You just need to drop your Mach-O application over it and it will > copy the whole VComponents into the package /Contents/ folder and > then quit. Can't be easier. :) Maybe Ruslan could include it with the > V4RB_2_macho distribution How big it is ? In any case we can put it simply on FTP -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From akritselis at earthlink.net Sun Feb 26 15:40:30 2006 From: akritselis at earthlink.net (Anna Kritselis) Date: Sun Feb 26 14:40:35 2006 Subject: db.diagnose Message-ID: <22080209.1140986431057.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi All, Has anyone been able to use db.diagnose successfully on the Mac? I built an application(Classic/OS X) using Win XP, RealBasic2006r1, V4RB 2.2 and it crashes at res = db.diagnose. It works fine in my Windows build. I'm trying to determine if my database has been corrupted before the user gets into it. Thanks, Anna From maxprog at mac.com Sun Feb 26 21:44:58 2006 From: maxprog at mac.com (Stan Busk) Date: Sun Feb 26 14:45:06 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57F5E50F-9518-4C12-89E0-CACEC53C1A85@mac.com> It is a very simple app, 3 Mb. It is roughly RB empty project weight. > On 2/26/06 10:06 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > >> I have created a very simple droplet that just helps you to do that. >> You just need to drop your Mach-O application over it and it will >> copy the whole VComponents into the package /Contents/ folder and >> then quit. Can't be easier. :) Maybe Ruslan could include it with the >> V4RB_2_macho distribution > > How big it is ? > > In any case we can put it simply on FTP > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > > Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information > http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > [I feel the need: the need for speed] > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From jda at his.com Sun Feb 26 15:57:21 2006 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sun Feb 26 14:57:26 2006 Subject: db.diagnose In-Reply-To: <22080209.1140986431057.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net > References: <22080209.1140986431057.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net > Message-ID: >Hi All, > >Has anyone been able to use db.diagnose successfully on the Mac? I >built an application(Classic/OS X) using Win XP, RealBasic2006r1, >V4RB 2.2 and it crashes at res = db.diagnose. It works fine in my >Windows build. > >I'm trying to determine if my database has been corrupted before the >user gets into it. > >Thanks, > >Anna Hi, Sounds like a bug I have reported on Mantis: #1288 vdatabase.diagnose -> crash Jon From listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com Sun Feb 26 23:16:13 2006 From: listmail1 at dsl.pipex.com (Dave Addey) Date: Sun Feb 26 17:16:22 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On 2/26/06 8:27 PM, "Erne" wrote: >> this one just to inform you that I can build a working Mach-O app >> with V4RB_Macho and MBS plugins installed > Great! > > Although I should say I did not make any fix related to MBS... > May be you have new MBS ? > Or May be release 2.2 build do not have this problem? > > So Dave also will be happy I think :-) I am very happy! Valentina MachO 2.2, and MBS, work for me now - even when using the same version of MBS as before. Something has changed in the v2.2 release which fixes the problems I was having before. I don't know what it was, but thank you Ruslan! All the best, Dave. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Feb 27 09:21:59 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Feb 27 01:22:08 2006 Subject: V4RB2.2 Mach-O Success! In-Reply-To: <57F5E50F-9518-4C12-89E0-CACEC53C1A85@mac.com> Message-ID: On 2/26/06 10:44 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: > It is a very simple app, 3 Mb. It is roughly RB empty project weight. Okay send it to me please. >> On 2/26/06 10:06 PM, "Stan Busk" wrote: >> >>> I have created a very simple droplet that just helps you to do that. >>> You just need to drop your Mach-O application over it and it will >>> copy the whole VComponents into the package /Contents/ folder and >>> then quit. Can't be easier. :) Maybe Ruslan could include it with the >>> V4RB_2_macho distribution >> >> How big it is ? >> >> In any case we can put it simply on FTP -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Feb 27 09:36:48 2006 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Feb 27 01:37:02 2006 Subject: New Wiki pages about Valentina Kernel Message-ID: Hi All, This weekend I have write about 30 pages into Wiki in the VKernel section Some info is copied from ValentinaKernel.pdf, some info is added. It will be great if you will read that, may be I have miss yet some issues. Thank you for reports of any typos. ----------------- TIP: to see recently changed pages in Wiki you can go to http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/ Then click "Recent Changes" link. You will see list of 20 most recent changed pages. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed]