From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Aug 1 23:16:03 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Aug 1 23:16:12 2005 Subject: Picture Field Issues Revisited In-Reply-To: <20050731165218.5E648360AE3@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050731165218.5E648360AE3@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <23DD899C-5BEE-42B3-BEDA-54A1A756C777@everestkc.net> Maybe someone can help me out here. I'm having hard crashes of my application when I try and add a picture to a database. The example application works great until I modify it to take a graphic file of my choosing. I've tried saving a Pict, JPG and TIFF with either no save (and no error) or a hard crash. Do I have to tell Valentina what type of graphic it is before I attempt to save (i.e. EVPictType)? Given that I open the file as picture shouldn't that be enough to convert it to pict? I've even tried using the MBS plugin to do a .cloneMBS to force it to be a bitmap but to no evail. Here's the EVPictType the documentation says for EVPictType: EVPictType kUnknown = 0 kMacPict = 1 kWinDIB = 10 kJPG = 20 kTIFF = 21 What exactly are we supposed to do with these? I've tried kUnknown with all three of my file types and I still get a hard crash. This is really frustrating. In V1 I saved pictures as a formatted pic but that doesn't seem to be an option in V2. Using RB2005, V4B 2.0fc6 with Tiger. Thanks. Been a long day and night. Bob K. From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 2 16:45:07 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Tue Aug 2 08:45:17 2005 Subject: Picture Field Issues Revisited In-Reply-To: <23DD899C-5BEE-42B3-BEDA-54A1A756C777@everestkc.net> References: <20050731165218.5E648360AE3@edison.macserve.net> <23DD899C-5BEE-42B3-BEDA-54A1A756C777@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <42EF78E3.6070306@public.kherson.ua> Bob Keeney wrote: > Maybe someone can help me out here. I'm having hard crashes of my > application when I try and add a picture to a database. Here is Picture_WriteAs method. Could you show some piece of code which brings the crash? -- Best regards, Ivan Smahin From giv at tlc.kherson.ua Tue Aug 2 16:48:03 2005 From: giv at tlc.kherson.ua (Igor Gomon) Date: Tue Aug 2 08:48:14 2005 Subject: Picture Field Issues Revisited References: <20050731165218.5E648360AE3@edison.macserve.net> <23DD899C-5BEE-42B3-BEDA-54A1A756C777@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <003b01c59768$cdef6b60$3b04a8c0@giv> Hi Bob, > Maybe someone can help me out here. I'm having hard crashes of my > application when I try and add a picture to a database. > > The example application works great until I modify it to take a > graphic file of my choosing. I've tried saving a Pict, JPG and TIFF > with either no save (and no error) or a hard crash. Can you give me an example of your code? -- Best regards, Igor Gomon ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: giv@tlc.kherson.ua web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://listserv.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 3 13:10:01 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 3 05:10:14 2005 Subject: Specification of Encryption for Valentina 2.0 In-Reply-To: <20050731165203.E37A917D204@spatula.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: On 7/31/05 7:52 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: Hi Lynn, > I have a question: Can you think of a possibility in which someone would > need to be granted limited access to part of a database, such as a single > table in a database, or a few fields? In such a case, how would this be > handled? I think you mean now feature Users/Groups which should be added to Vserver. This is not the same as encryption of disk files of database from spy eyes. > Also, we do need some level of error handling if someone doesnt have a > password -- because it certainly happens in real life ;-) Shouldnt there be > a default method and then (in the more powerful C++ SDK) a way for this to > be modified or replaced by custom code? I can see how it may be desirable, > for example, to pass back nothing (but the attempt is logged someplace). I think I have describe errors in specs. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 4 01:30:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 3 17:30:34 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC. In-Reply-To: <12042082.1123080625016.JavaMail.root@wamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 8/3/05 5:50 PM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Hi Anna, > I saw these instructions, but I still don't understand what I'm supposed to do > :( Ops, this is instructions for our developers, NOT for you. > (1)on MAC build plugin that have mac and win versions > 2) using REAL's ConvertPlugin convert it into .rbx format > 3) Compile on Windows the V4RB WIN > 4) copy from MAC the V4RB.rbx plugin into plugins folder of REALbasic on > Windows. > Now we have on Windows plugin that contains mac and windows version. > 5) Run installer Maker. > I use RealBasic 5.5.5 on Windows. I have a Mac (OSX version 10.3.2). Do I > download the Mac version of RealBasic - which now is 2005 - and install it on > ny Mac? No, RB 5.5 also will work > I can't seem to find "ConvertPlugin" - I googled Plugin Converter and > there was a link in the realsoftware archives, but went to freaksw.com which > didn't have anything. You do not need ConvertPlugin. If you will download latest V4RB WIN Archive, Then just try BUILD a macos version of your app (as it was with V4RB 1.x) You must get success -- you should see an MyApplication on your disk. Note, that to run it on MAC, you need also download V4RB MAC archive, And get from here VComponents folders for MAC. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 4 07:36:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 3 23:36:27 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 Message-ID: Hi All, you can download fc7 here: http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta Fixed bugs are: 971 973 974 975 Bob, Dan, please try new Vserver with your projects that use Class-way. Igor have fix problems that you have see. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ayu8 at cdc.gov Thu Aug 4 08:53:32 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Thu Aug 4 07:54:07 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf > Of Ruslan Zasukhin > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:36 AM > To: valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 > > Hi All, > > you can download fc7 here: > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > > Fixed bugs are: > > 971 > 973 > 974 > 975 > > Bob, Dan, please try new Vserver with your projects that use > Class-way. > Igor have fix problems that you have see. > > > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc > Hi Ruslan, I am beginning to do some cross-platform testing/optimizing for my app. I code using a Mac but am starting to test with Win XP. Since I am only running the app on Win XP and not coding on it, all I would need is the Win version of Vcomponents and not the plugin. How difficult/time consuming is it to build the Win version of Vcomponents? If very time consuming, I can delay my cross-platform testing until the release version of 2.0.5. Thanks. -John From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 4 16:46:49 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 4 08:47:02 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/4/05 3:53 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: Hi John, > I am beginning to do some cross-platform testing/optimizing for my app. > I code using a Mac but am starting to test with Win XP. Since I am only > running the app on Win XP and not coding on it, all I would need is the > Win version of Vcomponents and not the plugin. How difficult/time > consuming is it to build the Win version of Vcomponents? If very time > consuming, I can delay my cross-platform testing until the release > version of 2.0.5. You mean to test the same version on both platforms? It is not very many time 10-15 minutes. Today later I will make it. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ayu8 at cdc.gov Thu Aug 4 09:50:47 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Thu Aug 4 08:51:31 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf > Of Ruslan Zasukhin > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:47 AM > To: valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > Subject: Re: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver for mac 2.0.5 fc7 > > On 8/4/05 3:53 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: > > Hi John, > > > I am beginning to do some cross-platform testing/optimizing > for my app. > > I code using a Mac but am starting to test with Win XP. Since I am > > only running the app on Win XP and not coding on it, all I > would need > > is the Win version of Vcomponents and not the plugin. How > > difficult/time consuming is it to build the Win version of > > Vcomponents? If very time consuming, I can delay my cross-platform > > testing until the release version of 2.0.5. > > You mean to test the same version on both platforms? > > It is not very many time 10-15 minutes. > > Today later I will make it. > > > -- > Best regards, > > Ruslan Zasukhin > VP Engineering and New Technology > Paradigma Software, Inc Hi Ruslan, Yes, I mean I am starting to test my built application on both platforms and it would be good if I could use the same version of Valentina on both Mac and Win. Thanks, Ruslan. -John From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Aug 4 09:41:14 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Aug 4 09:41:46 2005 Subject: FC 7 Issue In-Reply-To: <20050804135131.F3CBE36361D@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050804135131.F3CBE36361D@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: On Aug 4, 2005, at 8:51 AM, valentina-beta-request@lists.macserve.net wrote: > Hi All, > > you can download fc7 here: > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > > Fixed bugs are: > > 971 > 973 > 974 > 975 > > Bob, Dan, please try new Vserver with your projects that use Class- > way. > Igor have fix problems that you have see. > First the good news. No hard crash using the class way. Now, the bad news. I get a hang when trying to open the database. Here's the code I'm using: ====================== Valentina.InitClient() dim f as FolderItem f = GetFolderItem( "BKeeney.vdb" ) gdb = new CDatabaseClass(Host,UserName,Password ) try gdb.Open( f ) <-------------Hang and no error catch err as VException gdb.Create( f, EVdbMode.kDsc_Dat_Blb_Ind , 32 * 1024 ) gdb.SetDefaults gdb.SchemaVersion = kSchemaVersion gdb.close gdb.Open(f) return true end ========================= No files are created. This is the correct way of doing it, no? Bob K. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 4 18:23:18 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 4 10:23:27 2005 Subject: FC 7 Issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/4/05 5:41 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: > First the good news. No hard crash using the class way. > > Now, the bad news. I get a hang when trying to open the database. > Here's the code I'm using: > > ====================== > Valentina.InitClient() > dim f as FolderItem > > f = GetFolderItem( "BKeeney.vdb" ) > > gdb = new CDatabaseClass(Host,UserName,Password ) > > try > gdb.Open( f ) <-------------Hang and no error > catch err as VException > gdb.Create( f, EVdbMode.kDsc_Dat_Blb_Ind , 32 * 1024 ) > > gdb.SetDefaults > gdb.SchemaVersion = kSchemaVersion > gdb.close > gdb.Open(f) > return true > end > ========================= > > No files are created. This is the correct way of doing it, no? What means no files are created ? Do you have db files already on disk ? If no, then you need call not open() but create at first. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Aug 4 11:49:40 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Aug 4 10:49:45 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] query selecting BLOB crashes app Message-ID: Here's a problem for fc8. A query of a remote database that selects a BLOB field crashes my app. The same action using a local database works fine. I've now logged it into Mantis (#978), and I sent some example files to Ivan a few days ago. I just confirmed that the problem remains in fc7. -------------- Charles Yeomans From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Aug 4 11:11:41 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Aug 4 11:11:59 2005 Subject: FC 7 Issue In-Reply-To: <20050804135131.F3CBE36361D@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050804135131.F3CBE36361D@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <3F170FA1-9936-4DBC-A824-BD6A7E0AA8AC@everestkc.net> > What means no files are created ? > Do you have db files already on disk ? > If no, then you need call not open() but create at first. No, files are NOT on disk. I am using the exact code from V4RB_Tutorial_2.en.pdf page 5: ======Snip======== dim f as FolderItem f = GetFolderItem( ?dbPersons.vdb? ) mDatabase = new VDatabase // If Database exists we open it, otherwise we create it. try mDatabase.Open( f ) catch err as VException mDatabase.Create( f, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd ) end ======End Snip======== This is what I mean by being frustrated. I follow the documentation and now you say it's not the right way of doing it. From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Aug 4 13:33:04 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Aug 4 12:33:12 2005 Subject: VStudio problems Message-ID: While eating my lunch, I found and reported ten VStudio bugs, three of which lead to crashes. Many of them are the result of obvious problems like menu items being enabled when they should not be. It's been over four months since Valentina 2 was announced. We still do not even have a non-beta version of an essential utility application, and the beta version is basically a piece of shit. -------------- Charles Yeomans From realsoftlists at gmail.com Thu Aug 4 14:10:48 2005 From: realsoftlists at gmail.com (Mathieu Langlois) Date: Thu Aug 4 13:11:01 2005 Subject: FC 7 Issue In-Reply-To: <3F170FA1-9936-4DBC-A824-BD6A7E0AA8AC@everestkc.net> References: <20050804135131.F3CBE36361D@edison.macserve.net> <3F170FA1-9936-4DBC-A824-BD6A7E0AA8AC@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <5d7ca37e0508041110859763f@mail.gmail.com> Bob, While I understand your frustration, you must remember that this is a beta release. Usually betas don't undergo the same quality control as release versions and they are released as soon as available to test the new fixes and to find exactly the kind of problem you're describing. This error would have been caught before the release of 2.0.5 because it is my understanding that they retest every example before shipping. 2.0.4 is the latest release and is the one you should use if you want to avoid the quirks of betas. Math On 8/4/05, Bob Keeney wrote: > > What means no files are created ? > > > Do you have db files already on disk ? > > If no, then you need call not open() but create at first. > > No, files are NOT on disk. I am using the exact code from > V4RB_Tutorial_2.en.pdf page 5: > > ======Snip======== > dim f as FolderItem > f = GetFolderItem( "dbPersons.vdb" ) > mDatabase = new VDatabase > // If Database exists we open it, otherwise we create it. > try > mDatabase.Open( f ) > catch err as VException > mDatabase.Create( f, EVDbMode.kDscDatBlbInd ) > end > > ======End Snip======== > > This is what I mean by being frustrated. I follow the documentation > and now you say it's not the right way of doing it. > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 5 00:23:18 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 4 16:23:30 2005 Subject: Field_Picture Project In-Reply-To: <35117163-FCA0-44EB-95BC-418931F5052D@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/4/05 10:40 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> Okay, am I right that I have improve pictures not so far on YOUR >> request ? >> >> And you still see problems? Okay, we will check... > > Appreciate the time and effort in tracking these things down. Really. > For the picture example it seems better real world example to load a > graphic file rather than from REALbasic project file. BUT THIS DO new example Field_Picture_Compressed Have you try it ? This new example show how to load JPG from file in 3 different ways > Documentation is sparse on exactly what EVPictType constants do and when to > use each type. Ok agree. > For example, I tried to save a tiff file (opened as picture) > using kUnknown and received a hard crash. kUnknown this is just dummy constant. we return it for example, if we cannot determinate what type of picture was given to us. Constants of EVPictType define: how to compress picture which you have provide us. Okay, this info should be added to docs I think: * Vpicture field expect from you a BITMAP file. this is PICT on mac and DIB on Windows. * you can ask Valentina compress this bitmap (i.e. Non-compressed picture) into JPG or TIFF there is no any sense to ask store it as Unknown picture format. Frankly saying, we even did not think that somebody can try do this :-) We need add protection from this case to not crash. * when you read from database a picture, Valentina uncompress it to bitmap again. ********* In the same time you can store existed JPG or TIFF into Vpicture field. For this you need use or -- VBLOB.WriteData() method or -- VBLOB.LoadToFile() ********* Valentina cannot at least now do next: you give it already existed TIFF and ask store it as JPG. this is task for Graphic Converter :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 5 00:26:30 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 4 16:26:41 2005 Subject: Bug fixes in 2.0.5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/4/05 11:23 PM, "jda" wrote: Hi Jon, > Hi Ruslan, > > I'm waiting for Ivan to fix two things: > #964 (reorder of columns when .maxLength is changed) Ivan works on this few days already. As well as preserve of data. Here there was many work todo... > #970 (improvements to db.clone) This was not started yet. > Any news (as I told you earlier, I have to wait for these, at least > #964) before I can release my next update. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 5 16:06:30 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 5 08:07:19 2005 Subject: Special Characters on MAC In-Reply-To: <065445830D7F35439CE1BBEEB0CFF2CE0165507D@md-admin.ags.com> Message-ID: On 8/5/05 2:43 PM, "Wilk, Steven" wrote: Hi Wilk, > Ruslan, > the problem has been solved. Excellent! > First thanks for all your help. I created a small database on the PC and then > copied over to the Mac. Using a simple Director application I displayed the > records. All of the characters showed the same on the PC and Mac, this > eliminated the database from the cause of my issue. > > Now let me explain how we are using the data from the database. > > Our Director application is using three Xtras: Valentia, Webviewer, and > TreeView. > We use web pages to display our search screens these screens pass search > criteria to the application for use in SQL to go against the Valentia > database. > The data that comes out of the query is then used to build a web page using > FileIO. > > The web page is then displayed using WebViewer, this is where the difference > in the characters showed them self's. > The problem there for was in the higher ANSI characters for instead > ? is 154 on the Mac and 246 on the PC, but when the Mac displayed the web > page it would use character 154 from the PC which is ?. So I built a list to > replace the characters on the Mac with the PC numerical representation for > example 154 becomes ö. I see, On the other hand this is issue of encoding it seems. Each web Browser have menu VIEW -> Encodings ... And user can choose a correct one. Cyrilic mac Cyrillic win For example. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 5 22:30:02 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 5 14:30:08 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB + Vserver mac 2.0.5 fc8 uploaded Message-ID: Hi All, You can download it here: http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta Charles, fixed problem with BLOBs Bob, fixed 2 more bugs related for class-way and Vserver. now tutorial code works. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 5 22:35:09 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 5 14:35:15 2005 Subject: Bob, please test stability with fc8 Message-ID: Hi Bob, Ivan have improve some things in this area, Please test fc8 on this issue, Let us know . -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Sat Aug 6 07:59:03 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sat Aug 6 06:59:05 2005 Subject: Can't launch when unicode chars in pathname In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, I'm still getting complaints by users who are frustrated by the fact that they can't even launch my app when there are unicode chars in the pathname (especially the root directory). For some reason they don't like the idea that they have to rename their hard drives to run my app! I reported this as bug #522 way back in the 2.0 beta test period. Doesn't anyone else see this? If Lynn wants to assault the Japanese market this would seem to be a big issue. Please fix this. Thanks, Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 21:00:14 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 13:00:21 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC. In-Reply-To: <6186128.1123350535185.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 8/6/05 8:48 PM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: > Realbasic 5.5 on Win XP So I have V4RB.rbx 795Kb 27.07.2005 16:46 I start RB 5.5.2 Open example Common/Init_Shutdown Open Build Settings menu. set ON for Mac OS X Aha !!! make sure that in the pres for MacOS is choosed MacOS 8-9 an X radio button I think it is Macho on your side -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 21:33:39 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 13:33:46 2005 Subject: VServer Class Way Success and Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/6/05 9:28 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: Hi Bob, Hi Igor, > Using fc8, > > First good news. I was able to create the database on the server and > open it. Yippee! > > Bad news. I've discovered that the method 'RecordExists' does not > work properly. It always returns false. > > Also, I was unable to create a new record using VCursor. Both issues > do not occur in the file version. > > > Let me know if you need exact code snippets for testing. Igor, Try to reproduce this please, If you cannot reproduce then ask Bob send you code or else ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 21:34:59 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 13:35:04 2005 Subject: Bob, please test stability with fc8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/6/05 9:22 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> ?Hi Bob, >> ? >> ?Ivan have improve some things in this area, >> ?Please test fc8 on this issue, >> ? >> ?Let us know . > > Good news!? We've tried to corrupt the database in a number of ways and can't > do it! > > Congratulations! > > Bob K. Very glad to hear this, Ivan, so as you see, your corrections to avoids writes did help. Excellent. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 22:18:08 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 14:18:17 2005 Subject: VServer Class Way Success and Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/6/05 10:05 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: > > On Aug 6, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Igor Gomon wrote: > >> I need code snippet from you that reproduces the problem. >> Because I definitely know that this must work. >> May be you provided wrong cursor mode when building it? Must be >> kServerSide, kReadWrite. > > That would be it then. I was doing client side. > > Silly question. Why can't I update a client side cursor? I do this > in VB and SQL Server/Access all the time. Really? Hard to say...this was our understanding how it should work. And we do this in this way 2 years... MySQL for example absolutely cannot update cursors - recordsets. Actually they name this as result... You need always use UPDATE command for mySQL. Postgre in contrast have ServerSide cursors only. But cursors of Postgre are at SQL level, you need do SQL commands to manage their cursors. --------------- We have as client side cursors similar to mySQL, so serverSide cursors which are more comfortable imho than Postgre have. MS have probably very FAT client, which can do even more ... Well, may be future we will also add that. I have remember now... yes we have discuss MS style. But we have decide this is too complex yet for us. Cursor that you describe must collect data modifications, Then send all changes in batch to server... Somebody from our team also have mention cursors that can be off-line, I.e. Disconnected from server, then on connect send changes..Such cursors have or MS or Borland... Yep, sooner or later we also need improve this. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 22:31:35 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 14:31:40 2005 Subject: VServer Class Way Success and Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/6/05 10:25 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> Yep, sooner or later we also need improve this. >> > > At least I now know and can work around. > Would it be possible throw > an error when trying to update a client side cursor? Hard to say. This is quite often mistake of developers .. Igor, may be really throw error if developer do ClientSide + ReadWrite ? error: "Client side cursor is read only." > I guess it > depends on if you distinguish between and server and file database. > > If I'm using file based, does it matter what the cursor location is > set to? In fact no. Just again, ClientSide cursor will be read only, even if you specify ReadWrite. Igor, add error. This is good idea. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From akritselis at earthlink.net Sat Aug 6 16:24:00 2005 From: akritselis at earthlink.net (Anna Kritselis) Date: Sat Aug 6 15:24:08 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC Message-ID: <3455250.1123359841167.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Can anyone who has Windows try to build a Mac OSX application using the latest download (V4RB_2.0.5fc5_Win) and see if you get the error: Cannot load Mac OS version of plugin "C:\Program Files\Real Software\REALBasic\.\Plugins\V4RB_2\V4RB.dll:-1". I'm using RealBasic 5.5 have tried this on two different machines(both running Win XP). My build settings are: Mac OSX and compatibility with OS 8-9 and X (PEF). I'm using the example programs(Table_Create, etc.). Thanks, Anna From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 23:26:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 6 15:26:28 2005 Subject: Valentina Cocoa demo In-Reply-To: <24527CAD-BB70-4FB5-A76A-77420FCAA6F6@visiblearea.com> Message-ID: On 8/6/05 11:05 PM, "Arthur Clemens" wrote: > I've updated the Cocoa demo for XCode 2.1: http://visiblearea.com/ > valentina/ValentinaCocoaDemo.dmg > > (couple of bug fixes) > > Ruslan, this is the demo in Examples_ThirdParty folder. Ok, thank you Arthur. ------------------------------------------------------ btw, I want inform community about our steps on xCode direction. * few last days me and Totte Alm (Valentina developer veteran, 5 years I think) working on port on Valentina kernel to xCode and GCC 4.0 Today we was able to run our tests. Results are quite good: from 20,000 tests about 50-60 FAILS only. * next week we going finish this port and also get build of Valentina for MAC INTEL with xCode 2.1 Totte already have port to this most third party libs that we use * after this, in the near time we going introduce Valentina C++ SDK for xCode 2.1 and Visual .NET We do not see sense provide version for CodeWarrior. It is dead. * In the same time we are going to start the development of V4Cocoa -- Objective-C wrapper to C++ SDK. I think that this will be main work for Serge. * and after this (or parallel), Serge (and me) will try plug Valentina into CoreData technology. ------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT: * with Valentina 2.0 C++ ADK we have option that you can get 3 levels of access to Valentina sources. * public sources * public sources + protected header * public sources + protected header + protected sources = 95% of all. With last option you get practically full sources of Valentina (except indexing). You will have direct access to our CVS. You will be able fix bugs or add some features that you need. If this is interesting to you please contact Lynn off list to get more details. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From giv at tlc.kherson.ua Sat Aug 6 22:22:55 2005 From: giv at tlc.kherson.ua (Igor Gomon) Date: Sat Aug 6 15:30:13 2005 Subject: VServer Class Way Success and Problems References: <003f01c59ab8$edc5cb70$3b04a8c0@giv> Message-ID: > Silly question. Why can't I update a client side cursor? I do this > in VB and SQL Server/Access all the time. You mean you use ADO, ADO.NET? Because this data access technologies (especially .NET) designed to be used in connectionless mode. This means you don't have to specify any cursor modes (server, client). Your can always do the changes you want. They are collected locally on the client and then are sent to the server in single update operation. Valentina instead is working in "immediate mode" and assumes that connection is always available and all the commands from the client to the server are sent immediately. So to prevent much resources consuming we implemented different cursor modes for different situations. -- Best regards, Igor Gomon ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: giv@tlc.kherson.ua web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://listserv.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From realsoftlists at gmail.com Sun Aug 7 01:16:47 2005 From: realsoftlists at gmail.com (Mathieu Langlois) Date: Sun Aug 7 00:16:55 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC In-Reply-To: <3455250.1123359841167.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3455250.1123359841167.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5d7ca37e05080622161827b5d4@mail.gmail.com> The windows version only has the windows version. The Mac version has both. I guess the mac version could be converted to work on windows but you would need a Mac to convert the plugin. I guess if enough people request it they will release it cross-platform for windows! Math On 8/6/05, Anna Kritselis wrote: > Can anyone who has Windows try to build a Mac OSX application using the latest download (V4RB_2.0.5fc5_Win) and see if you get the error: > > Cannot load Mac OS version of plugin "C:\Program Files\Real Software\REALBasic\.\Plugins\V4RB_2\V4RB.dll:-1". > > I'm using RealBasic 5.5 have tried this on two different machines(both running Win XP). My build settings are: Mac OSX and compatibility with OS 8-9 and X (PEF). I'm using the example programs(Table_Create, etc.). > > Thanks, > > Anna > > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 7 09:32:09 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 7 01:32:18 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC In-Reply-To: <5d7ca37e05080622161827b5d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/7/05 8:16 AM, "Mathieu Langlois" wrote: No no no Mathieu Point is that 2.0.5 fc5 V4RB WIN archive must contains mac and win plugins. You can see that plugin now is V4RB.rbx but not V4RB.dll You can see that its size is about 750Kb but not 350 And for me it works, I can build MAC app on Windows. But Anna still cannot do this on some reason. So we ask other developers to help us and check this issue on YOUR side and inform us. > The windows version only has the windows version. The Mac version has > both. I guess the mac version could be converted to work on windows > but you would need a Mac to convert the plugin. > > I guess if enough people request it they will release it > cross-platform for windows! > > Math > > On 8/6/05, Anna Kritselis wrote: >> Can anyone who has Windows try to build a Mac OSX application using the >> latest download (V4RB_2.0.5fc5_Win) and see if you get the error: >> >> Cannot load Mac OS version of plugin "C:\Program Files\Real >> Software\REALBasic\.\Plugins\V4RB_2\V4RB.dll:-1". >> >> I'm using RealBasic 5.5 have tried this on two different machines(both >> running Win XP). My build settings are: Mac OSX and compatibility with OS >> 8-9 and X (PEF). I'm using the example programs(Table_Create, etc.). -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From miescher at bizdata.com Sun Aug 7 10:36:08 2005 From: miescher at bizdata.com (John W. Miescher) Date: Sun Aug 7 03:36:20 2005 Subject: splitToWords question Message-ID: <000001c59b2b$0f6dcbc0$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Hi Ruslan, I discovered the SplitToWords function in your examples, but nowhere in the documentation. Nice feature, but what is it for? Is there any documentation available? Is there an easy way to assign each resulting word to a record in a (new) table or array that can then be searched using Valentina REGEX as opposed to RB-regex which cannot handle accents except with complex (and CPU-cycles consuming) syntax? thanks and rgs, john m. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050807/f8cec249/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 7 12:48:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 7 04:48:27 2005 Subject: splitToWords question In-Reply-To: <000001c59b2b$0f6dcbc0$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Message-ID: On 8/7/05 11:36 AM, "John W. Miescher" wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > I discovered the SplitToWords function in your examples, but nowhere in > the documentation. Nice feature, but what is it for? This was made on request of Jon (jda) Jon, can you describe how to use it ? > Is there any documentation available? No, because I was not sure that other developers will need it. And only V4RB have it I think. This function split a string into words according to the current settings of the specified String/VarChar/Text field. This is how Valentina split to words when use Index By Words. Jon use this to do some pre-checks in own code before send string to Valentina ... ----------------------- > Is there an easy way to assign each resulting word to a record in a > (new) table or array that can then be searched using Valentina REGEX as > opposed to RB-regex which cannot handle accents except with complex (and > CPU-cycles consuming) syntax? You can use Valentina REGEX without SplitToWords(). Just store string into Valentina filed. And do REGEX search. Easy -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 7 23:31:53 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 7 15:31:59 2005 Subject: V4RB, what people think about switch to Macho ? Message-ID: Hi V4RB developers, I think about porting of everything to xCode ASAP from CW. But this will mean for V4RB -- support of only MACHO targets. No Carbon/PEF as now. What you think about this, guys ? Does exists developers which will get pain from this ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Sun Aug 7 16:55:48 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Sun Aug 7 15:55:52 2005 Subject: V4RB, what people think about switch to Macho ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi V4RB developers, > >I think about porting of everything to xCode ASAP from CW. > >But this will mean for V4RB -- support of only MACHO targets. >No Carbon/PEF as now. > >What you think about this, guys ? > >Does exists developers which will get pain from this ? > My RB app is still PEF (may change for MacTel, though). I think you can have a PEF plug-in for MACH0 apps. Maybe MACH0 plug-ins work with PEF apps? Jon From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Sun Aug 7 17:23:04 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Sun Aug 7 18:23:20 2005 Subject: V4RB, what people think about switch to Macho ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <455695B6-73A0-44D8-9966-EC33DA2830B0@goodeast.com> On Aug 7, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi V4RB developers, > > I think about porting of everything to xCode ASAP from CW. > > But this will mean for V4RB -- support of only MACHO targets. > No Carbon/PEF as now. > > What you think about this, guys ? This is fine with me. I was initially having problems compiling my RB2005 projects in Mach-O but REAL Software seems to have fixed those bugs for RB2005r2 and I can compile again that way. > Does exists developers which will get pain from this ? Best regards, Frank Schima From akritselis at earthlink.net Sun Aug 7 19:47:20 2005 From: akritselis at earthlink.net (Anna Kritselis) Date: Sun Aug 7 18:47:36 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC In-Reply-To: <3455250.1123359841167.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000001c59baa$5db18db0$0200a8c0@Dell1> I think I've figured it out. Bottom line is that I needed to be logged in as user: Administrator during the installation process. Even though my account is an Administrator account - that doesn't appear to matter. Prior to this, I've never had a problem installing from my own account. I installed RealBasic and Valentina on a machine that had never had either installed. After I loaded Valentina I received the following error - This application has failed to start because Kernel_Win32_Final_CW.dll was not found. This was yet a different error and when I looked in the subdirectory structure, the dll was there. So I uninstalled both RB and V4RB, deleted what was remaining in the subdirectory structure, decided to login as Administrator and then I reinstalled, ran an example project and was able to compile. I went back to my machine, uninstalled, reinstalled using the Administrator account and it worked. -----Original Message----- From: valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net [mailto:valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf Of Anna Kritselis Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 4:24 PM To: valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net. Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC Can anyone who has Windows try to build a Mac OSX application using the latest download (V4RB_2.0.5fc5_Win) and see if you get the error: Cannot load Mac OS version of plugin "C:\Program Files\Real Software\REALBasic\.\Plugins\V4RB_2\V4RB.dll:-1". I'm using RealBasic 5.5 have tried this on two different machines(both running Win XP). My build settings are: Mac OSX and compatibility with OS 8-9 and X (PEF). I'm using the example programs(Table_Create, etc.). Thanks, Anna _______________________________________________ Valentina-beta mailing list Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From Claudius at sailer-online.de Mon Aug 8 05:59:40 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Sun Aug 7 22:59:51 2005 Subject: V4RB, what people think about switch to Macho ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 07. Aug 2005 um 22:31 Uhr schrieb Ruslan Zasukhin: > Hi V4RB developers, > > I think about porting of everything to xCode ASAP from CW. > > But this will mean for V4RB -- support of only MACHO targets. > No Carbon/PEF as now. > > What you think about this, guys ? > > Does exists developers which will get pain from this ? this would be okay. Doesthis inculde functionality that V4RB2-stuff is would be in the Application-package and not outside? bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 5.5.5/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 8 08:22:03 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 8 00:22:13 2005 Subject: V4RB, what people think about switch to Macho ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/8/05 6:59 AM, "Claudius Sailer" wrote: >> Hi V4RB developers, >> >> I think about porting of everything to xCode ASAP from CW. >> >> But this will mean for V4RB -- support of only MACHO targets. >> No Carbon/PEF as now. >> >> What you think about this, guys ? >> >> Does exists developers which will get pain from this ? > > this would be okay. > Doesthis inculde functionality that V4RB2-stuff is would be in the > Application-package and not outside? Yes, because we have this right now for Macho. For Carbon also possible do that I believe. In few hours. So this is not main diff between them. Main difference I think is: 1) you cannot distribute app to MacOS 9 2) Jon have own shared library for his app... so Jon will need compile it as Macho also probably. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 8 08:33:09 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 8 00:33:20 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC In-Reply-To: <000001c59baa$5db18db0$0200a8c0@Dell1> Message-ID: On 8/8/05 2:47 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Hi Anna, > I think I've figured it out. Bottom line is that I needed to be logged > in as user: Administrator during the installation process. Even though > my account is an Administrator account - that doesn't appear to matter. > Prior to this, I've never had a problem installing from my own account. This is we talk about Windows, right? Really strange... In both cases it installs into the same location right ? On my XP exists only one account "ruslan" which is also admin. No problems.... I do nObjectTable have account "Administrator" > I installed RealBasic and Valentina on a machine that had never had > either installed. After I loaded Valentina I received the following > error - This application has failed to start because > Kernel_Win32_Final_CW.dll was not found. This happens in case Windows do not see folder Vcomponents. This can happens if A) installer have not add into PATH string that point to VComponents folder B) Installer have add it but PATH your computer have so many installed software that PATH is very long. In this case you can manually copy string forward. This is old know glitch of Windows :-( > This was yet a different error and when I looked in the subdirectory > structure, the dll was there. So I uninstalled both RB and V4RB, deleted what > was remaining in the subdirectory structure, decided to login as Administrator > and then I reinstalled, ran an example project and was able to compile. I think trick is that account Administrator have small PATH variable. I think that if you return back into your account and in the PATH varaible copy our string forward it also will work. > I went back to my machine, uninstalled, reinstalled using the > Administrator account and it worked. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 8 08:41:19 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 8 00:41:31 2005 Subject: split to words and db in Ram In-Reply-To: <000001c59bcc$3fb72cd0$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Message-ID: On 8/8/05 6:49 AM, "John W. Miescher" wrote: Hi John, > Thanks for the explanation. I find splittowords indeed very useful in > conjunction with my proximiy search alias soundex routine (which is > absent from Valentina) because it pre-sorts and also removes duplicates > faster than RB would. Excellent. You mean you use some RB plugin that do soundex ? > In a subsequent step I build a db and fldstring as > per your example except I do it in RAM: > > db = new VDatabase(EVStorageType.kRAM) > db.CollationAttribute( EVColAttribute.kStrength ) = > EVColAttributeValue.kPrimary > > but the CollationAttribute does not seem to have any effect here, i.e. > accents are NOT ignored. Why? Strange... Does our example ignore them? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 8 08:54:37 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 8 00:54:44 2005 Subject: C++ ADK, Cocoa In-Reply-To: <200508071456.AA361693322@crunch-recording.com> Message-ID: On 8/8/05 12:56 AM, "Justin Drury" wrote: Hi Justin, >> Or you mean that you want develop Obj-c wrapper? >> In last case it will be great if we combine efforts on this. >> In any case we want get into Obj-C world. > > Yes, a wrapper. Would be happy to submit whatever I come up with... I used > V4RB quite extensively, but have since moved to Cocoa and haven't looked back. > I really miss Valentina though! Well, then I can subscribe you to our internal vdeveloper list to discuss with Serge, Jochen, Totte, me the structure of Obj-C wrapper. I think you should not write own wrapper, just we will do this for you :-) And if you will have time you can help us. This process will be started in nearest week. Serge start to read few Cocoa books .... > The in memory database is very interesting to me. Especially seeing what type > of memory footprint is required. Apple's NSArray and NSDictionary are very > memory intensive. RAM db/tables use pages in 4 Kb. Next page is allocated when this one is full. The same as on disk. So if you have e.g. Table with one SHORT field, you can insert into this page 16,000 records. >>> BTW - your various sources idea is very interesting. I assume the exposed >>> sources could be purchased as an upgrade once the need for them arrises? >> >> Yes. >> >> First option is not very cheap. $200-300 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ops,I have mean *IS* very cheap >> Second option it seems 800 or 1000. Price is on site. >> > > All very reasonable. We'll be looking at both Mac and PC SDK(C++ on the > windows side) > > All the best...I'll continue reading the beta list with excitement. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 8 19:29:26 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 8 11:29:34 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver mac + win 2.0.5 fc9 Message-ID: Hi All, You can download it here http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta * Here main fix for Frank in joins * and V4RB and V4MD now have new methods for encryption 5 methods for db 5 methods for table 5 methods for field * V4MD have one new example. V4RB do not have example yet. Igor and Ivan tomorrow must make more examples. Who need encryption examples please ask them. They will send examples directly Please test encryption on COPY of your db. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Aug 8 14:59:41 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Aug 8 14:59:51 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver mac + win 2.0.5 fc9 Message-ID: Can we get some preliminary documentation as to what the methods are? From looking at it for 5 minutes it looks like it is vastly different from the reference documentation. Thanks! Bob Keeney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob Keeney wrote: > Can we get some preliminary documentation as to what the methods are? > > From looking at it for 5 minutes it looks like it is vastly different > from the reference documentation. > > Thanks! > > Bob Keeney > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta -- Best regards, Ivan Smahin From rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp Tue Aug 9 07:52:43 2005 From: rbarber at yhb.att.ne.jp (ron barber) Date: Mon Aug 8 17:52:19 2005 Subject: splitToWords question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ruslan, On Aug 7, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/7/05 11:36 AM, "John W. Miescher" wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, >> I discovered the SplitToWords function in your examples, but nowhere >> in >> the documentation. Nice feature, but what is it for? > No, because I was not sure that other developers will need it. > And only V4RB have it I think. > > > This function split a string into words according to the current > settings of > the specified String/VarChar/Text field. I think that this would be a helpful function in my work, since I do a lot of text parsing. Is it possible to make it available for V4REV as well? Thanks Ron From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 9 02:01:10 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Mon Aug 8 18:01:21 2005 Subject: splitToWords question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42F7E436.2050401@public.kherson.ua> Hi, Actually, there is no problem to implement this in the V4REV. You could place your request to the Mantis bug tracking as a feature request. But I thought Revolution has got own powerful string parsing and so on... ron barber wrote: > Hi Ruslan, > > On Aug 7, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 8/7/05 11:36 AM, "John W. Miescher" wrote: >> >>> Hi Ruslan, >>> I discovered the SplitToWords function in your examples, but nowhere in >>> the documentation. Nice feature, but what is it for? > > >> No, because I was not sure that other developers will need it. >> And only V4RB have it I think. >> >> >> This function split a string into words according to the current >> settings of >> the specified String/VarChar/Text field. > > > I think that this would be a helpful function in my work, since I do a > lot of text parsing. Is it possible to make it available for V4REV as well? > > Thanks > Ron > > _______________________________________________ > Valentina-beta mailing list > Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta > -- Best regards, Ivan Smahin From akritselis at earthlink.net Tue Aug 9 06:52:13 2005 From: akritselis at earthlink.net (Anna Kritselis) Date: Tue Aug 9 05:52:23 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC Message-ID: <25937387.1123584733836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Machine 1(Dell) - COMPILES (after I reinstalled as Administrator). PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\VComponents_Win_CW;C:\Program Files\Allume\StuffIt\;C:\Program Files\Allume\StuffIt\OfficeReady StuffIt;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\WinNT;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98\Bin;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\bin Machine 2(HP) - COMPILES (RB/V4RB installed as Administrator) PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program FIles\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel;C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\VComponents_Win_CW; Machine 3(ThinkPad) - DOES NOT COMPILE (have not reinstalled as Administrator). Path is: PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Thinkpad\Utilities;C:\Program Files\Paradigma Software\VComponents_Win_CW -----Original Message----- From: Ruslan Zasukhin Sent: Aug 8, 2005 1:33 AM To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" , "valentina@lists.macserve.net" Subject: Re: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC On 8/8/05 2:47 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Hi Anna, > I think I've figured it out. Bottom line is that I needed to be logged > in as user: Administrator during the installation process. Even though > my account is an Administrator account - that doesn't appear to matter. > Prior to this, I've never had a problem installing from my own account. This is we talk about Windows, right? Really strange... In both cases it installs into the same location right ? On my XP exists only one account "ruslan" which is also admin. No problems.... I do nObjectTable have account "Administrator" > I installed RealBasic and Valentina on a machine that had never had > either installed. After I loaded Valentina I received the following > error - This application has failed to start because > Kernel_Win32_Final_CW.dll was not found. This happens in case Windows do not see folder Vcomponents. This can happens if A) installer have not add into PATH string that point to VComponents folder B) Installer have add it but PATH your computer have so many installed software that PATH is very long. In this case you can manually copy string forward. This is old know glitch of Windows :-( > This was yet a different error and when I looked in the subdirectory > structure, the dll was there. So I uninstalled both RB and V4RB, deleted what > was remaining in the subdirectory structure, decided to login as Administrator > and then I reinstalled, ran an example project and was able to compile. I think trick is that account Administrator have small PATH variable. I think that if you return back into your account and in the PATH varaible copy our string forward it also will work. > I went back to my machine, uninstalled, reinstalled using the > Administrator account and it worked. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] _______________________________________________ Valentina-beta mailing list Valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina-beta From miescher at bizdata.com Tue Aug 9 14:28:48 2005 From: miescher at bizdata.com (John W. Miescher) Date: Tue Aug 9 07:28:58 2005 Subject: split to words and db in Ram In-Reply-To: <20050809105224.05DF5366DE3@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <000001c59cdd$e52a7e80$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> re-bonjour, Ruslan > db = new VDatabase(EVStorageType.kRAM) > db.CollationAttribute( EVColAttribute.kStrength ) = > EVColAttributeValue.kPrimary > > but the CollationAttribute does not seem to have any effect here, i.e. > accents are NOT ignored. Why? >> Strange... Does our example ignore them? Your example works fine, both with db on disk and db in Ram, even without setting the CollationAttribute. So I must look for the quirk in my own code - I may come back for more. rgs, john m. From bkeeney at everestkc.net Sat Aug 13 17:27:31 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Sat Aug 13 17:27:53 2005 Subject: Encryption Documentation/Examples In-Reply-To: <20050806203019.426FE365079@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050806203019.426FE365079@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: I could really use either documentation for encryption or examples that use it. Thanks, Bob Keeney From bkeeney at everestkc.net Sun Aug 14 22:37:37 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Sun Aug 14 22:37:49 2005 Subject: RB 2.05 fc9 -39 Error In-Reply-To: <20050809105223.DF67D366DE2@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050809105223.DF67D366DE2@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <78C53D9B-793E-46E3-AB50-A312A88B6BE2@everestkc.net> Using the latest version I am getting a -39 error on the following command: call gdb.SqlExecute("COMPACT") We have received this after creating a new database, adding maybe a thousand records and a dozen or so linked objects. In testing we did not notice this on fc8 though it could have slipped through the cracks. Any idea on what a -39 error means? Thanks, Bob K. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 11:52:13 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 03:52:27 2005 Subject: Ruslan: I am back from Sweden. Message-ID: Hi All, I have return back from Sweden where there was small Valentina developers conference :-) Totte Alm, Jochen Peters and me. I will provide more info later today, I need now check a lots of email I have in box.... The main news is: we have port Valentina engine to MAC INTEL and xCode 2.1 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 13:13:17 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 05:20:11 2005 Subject: V4MD FC9 issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/11/05 11:34 PM, "Francois Cournoyer" wrote: Hi Francois, Sorry for delay, I have just come back from Sweden and reading a lots of emails now. > Is it me, or the api actually incurred a change??? YES it was changed. But not dramatically. We have made EXPLICITE names for operations. Look: * You want encrypt database? then use db.Encrypt( "passw" ) * You want decrypt database? then use db.Decrypt( "passw" ); in v1 you want need CHANGE password, providing new password as VOID/NULL, which IMHO was more confusing * You want change password? Then use db.ChangePassword() * You want open already encrypted db? so you need inform it about passwords, right? Then use db.UsePassword( "passw" ) IMHO very logically and more clean then it was in v1. > where's SetEncryption gone? deprecated > This is getting ridiculous, and unheard of, API changing between minor > releases? Actually 2.0 did not have encryption implemented right? So only in 2.0.5 we actually introduce it for 2.x > This is highly unprofessional and risky, it makes me wary to actually > upgrade to a new version if it means the risk of having to rewrite huge > parts of code because of this. Francois, encryption happens only on open/create. So it is only 3-5-10 lines of code. > Lucky that it's only 1 function now, but still, what tells me you won't > suddenly decide to change the fields api to use something else than ".value > = ?" Nope :-) > I see that there's now UseEncryptionKey, I supposed this is what's to be > called now? Or is it just an honest mistake, and SetEncryption was just > removed by mistake? It is removed. New examples show how to use it now. On beta list 2 weeks ago was sent specification of new behavior for encryption. We try to make things more simple and less confusing for users regarding encryption. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 15:42:54 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 07:43:03 2005 Subject: splitToWords question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/9/05 1:52 AM, "ron barber" wrote: > I think that this would be a helpful function in my work, since I do a > lot of text parsing. Is it possible to make it available for V4REV as > well? Of course Ron, Ivan, If it is not implemented please add it for next build. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 15:43:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 07:43:52 2005 Subject: splitToWords question In-Reply-To: <42F7E436.2050401@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: On 8/9/05 2:01 AM, "Ivan Smahin" wrote: > Hi, > > Actually, there is no problem to implement this in the V4REV. > You could place your request to the Mantis bug tracking as a feature > request. > > But I thought Revolution has got own powerful string parsing and so on... Ivan, this function is important because it split words using ICU algorithms, and it produce result THE SAME as we have in indexes. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 15:47:18 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 07:47:24 2005 Subject: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC In-Reply-To: <25937387.1123584733836.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 8/9/05 1:52 PM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Igor, Add this into Mantis, V4RB project. OS win. We need check this and try to reproduce. "Non admin account" ... > Machine 1(Dell) - COMPILES (after I reinstalled as Administrator). > PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program > Files\Paradigma Software\VComponents_Win_CW;C:\Program > Files\Allume\StuffIt\;C:\Program Files\Allume\StuffIt\OfficeReady > StuffIt;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\WinNT;C:\Program > Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98\Bin;C:\Program Files\Microsoft > Visual Studio\Common\Tools;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\bin > > Machine 2(HP) - COMPILES (RB/V4RB installed as Administrator) > PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program > FIles\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel;C:\Program Files\Paradigma > Software\VComponents_Win_CW; > > Machine 3(ThinkPad) - DOES NOT COMPILE (have not reinstalled as > Administrator). Path is: > PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program > Files\Thinkpad\Utilities;C:\Program Files\Paradigma > Software\VComponents_Win_CW > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Sent: Aug 8, 2005 1:33 AM > To: "valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net" , > "valentina@lists.macserve.net" > Subject: Re: Valentina 2 V4RB Win => compile to MAC > > On 8/8/05 2:47 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: > > Hi Anna, > >> I think I've figured it out. Bottom line is that I needed to be logged >> in as user: Administrator during the installation process. Even though >> my account is an Administrator account - that doesn't appear to matter. >> Prior to this, I've never had a problem installing from my own account. > > This is we talk about Windows, right? > > Really strange... > In both cases it installs into the same location right ? > > On my XP exists only one account "ruslan" which is also admin. > No problems.... > > I do nObjectTable have account "Administrator" > > >> I installed RealBasic and Valentina on a machine that had never had >> either installed. After I loaded Valentina I received the following >> error - This application has failed to start because >> Kernel_Win32_Final_CW.dll was not found. > > This happens in case Windows do not see folder Vcomponents. > This can happens if > > A) installer have not add into PATH string that point to VComponents folder > > B) Installer have add it but PATH your computer have so many installed > software that PATH is very long. In this case you can manually copy string > forward. This is old know glitch of Windows :-( > > >> This was yet a different error and when I looked in the subdirectory >> structure, the dll was there. So I uninstalled both RB and V4RB, deleted >> what >> was remaining in the subdirectory structure, decided to login as >> Administrator >> and then I reinstalled, ran an example project and was able to compile. > > I think trick is that account Administrator have small PATH variable. > > I think that if you return back into your account and in the PATH varaible > copy our string forward it also will work. > >> I went back to my machine, uninstalled, reinstalled using the >> Administrator account and it worked. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 15:50:11 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 07:50:18 2005 Subject: Encryption Documentation/Examples In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/14/05 1:27 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: > I could really use either documentation for encryption or examples > that use it. Hi Bob, I think tomorrow 16 Aug we will produce new docs for new encryption API. For now you need use EXAMPLES. Ah, V4RB did not have them. Today will be new build . -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 15:51:05 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 15 07:51:13 2005 Subject: RB 2.05 fc9 -39 Error In-Reply-To: <78C53D9B-793E-46E3-AB50-A312A88B6BE2@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/15/05 6:37 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: > Using the latest version I am getting a -39 error on the following > command: > > call gdb.SqlExecute("COMPACT") > > We have received this after creating a new database, adding maybe a > thousand records and a dozen or so linked objects. > > In testing we did not notice this on fc8 though it could have slipped > through the cracks. > > Any idea on what a -39 error means? -39 end of file. MacOS error. Today will be new build. In prev beta Igor have corrupt something adding encryption. Now we have again stable tests results. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From giv at tlc.kherson.ua Mon Aug 15 13:35:34 2005 From: giv at tlc.kherson.ua (Igor Gomon) Date: Tue Aug 16 01:41:54 2005 Subject: Encryption Examples/Documentation? References: <827738925.20050815112208@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: Hi Bob, > Please see the attached sample database that I've been trying to > encrypt/decrypt using the Database_Encrypt_Decrypt example. It seems > that a couple of things are happening in rb fc9. > 1) The .isEncrypted property isn't working properly. It always > brings back a false when I try to encrypt a new Un-encrypted database. Yes, there was a bug in RB plugin. It is already fixed. > 2) If I do the encrypt operation twice it throws an error saying the > encryption key is wrong. This is right behaviour. You can't call Encrypt() on already encrypted database. You can change encryption key for the database or decrypt it. Maybe it will be more clear to throw exception like ERR_ENCRYPTION_ALREADY_ENCRYPTED in this case. We will think on this. > 3) Regardless of the state of the database I select it appears the > decrypting the database always returns the .isEncrypted property as > false. However, if I open the database in Studio data is still > encrypted. Same. -- Best regards, Igor Gomon ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: giv@tlc.kherson.ua web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://listserv.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From bkeeney at everestkc.net Tue Aug 16 10:28:54 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Tue Aug 16 10:29:22 2005 Subject: Encryption Question In-Reply-To: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <219BB397-E2F9-469C-AA5F-81ECB2AFBBE5@everestkc.net> Sorry to be a pain about this but with a client breathing down my neck.... Anyway, I'm looking at the Database_Encrypt_Decrypt example. Seems to work okay. However, when create my own database, set default values, encrypt it and then open it back up all my data appears as garbage. Here is my exact code to open it back up: gDB = new CDatabaseClass gdb.UseEncryptionKey "MyKey" gdb.Open f if gdb = nil then MsgBox "Can't open database. end if So I must be doing something incorrect that I can't glean from the examples. Do I have to decrypt the database to use it? 2nd part of the question: Even with the database encryption, I can open the database in Studio. One of the things I loved about V1 was the structure encryption. Do you expect this feature to make it back into version 2? Thanks, Bob Keeney From bkeeney at everestkc.net Tue Aug 16 11:19:33 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Tue Aug 16 11:19:58 2005 Subject: RB 2.05 fc9 -39 Error In-Reply-To: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: >> Using the latest version I am getting a -39 error on the following >> command: >> >> call gdb.SqlExecute("COMPACT") >> >> We have received this after creating a new database, adding maybe a >> thousand records and a dozen or so linked objects. >> >> In testing we did not notice this on fc8 though it could have slipped >> through the cracks. >> >> Any idea on what a -39 error means? >> > > -39 end of file. MacOS error. > > Today will be new build. > In prev beta Igor have corrupt something adding encryption. > > Now we have again stable tests results. > My beta tester was able to duplicate the -39 error using fc10 using the Compact command. Thanks, Bob Keeney From giv at tlc.kherson.ua Tue Aug 16 18:32:11 2005 From: giv at tlc.kherson.ua (Igor Gomon) Date: Tue Aug 16 13:32:12 2005 Subject: Encryption Question References: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> <219BB397-E2F9-469C-AA5F-81ECB2AFBBE5@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <003a01c572a1$a7d914d0$3b04a8c0@giv> Hi Bob, > Sorry to be a pain about this but with a client breathing down my > neck.... > > Anyway, I'm looking at the Database_Encrypt_Decrypt example. Seems > to work okay. Ok. > However, when create my own database, set default values, encrypt it > and then open it back up all my data appears as garbage. Here is my > exact code to open it back up: > > gDB = new CDatabaseClass > gdb.UseEncryptionKey "MyKey" > > gdb.Open f > if gdb = nil then > MsgBox "Can't open database. > end if This code looks correct. Can you send me small test project that reproduces the problem? > So I must be doing something incorrect that I can't glean from the > examples. Do I have to decrypt the database to use it? No. > 2nd part of the question: > Even with the database encryption, I can open the database in > Studio. One of the things I loved about V1 was the structure > encryption. Do you expect this feature to make it back into version 2? This is what I'm currently implementing. -- Best regards, Igor Gomon ------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: giv@tlc.kherson.ua web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://listserv.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 16 22:31:32 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Aug 16 14:31:58 2005 Subject: RB 2.05 fc9 -39 Error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/16/05 7:19 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> -39 end of file. MacOS error. >> >> Today will be new build. >> In prev beta Igor have corrupt something adding encryption. >> >> Now we have again stable tests results. >> > > My beta tester was able to duplicate the -39 error using fc10 using > the Compact command. On fresh db made with fc10 ? Db is encrypted or no ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From justin at crunch-recording.com Tue Aug 16 15:55:51 2005 From: justin at crunch-recording.com (Justin Drury) Date: Tue Aug 16 14:56:22 2005 Subject: Ruslan: I am back from Sweden In-Reply-To: <20050815125119.86BB536B63B@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050815125119.86BB536B63B@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <7C4F6D01-D1F4-4D70-AD9B-3811C4C6DA1F@crunch-recording.com> > The main news is: > > we have port Valentina engine to MAC INTEL and xCode 2.1 Well that is GREAT news. When do we get to see the results of you fella's hard work? Its gotten to the point where I keep checking http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/2005-August/ every few hours instead of waiting for the digest to come in!!!(Just in case a C++ announcement gets posted) All you REALbasic developers have had the joy of vers 2 long enough! Time to share! Justin From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 16 23:10:16 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Aug 16 15:10:40 2005 Subject: Ruslan: I am back from Sweden In-Reply-To: <7C4F6D01-D1F4-4D70-AD9B-3811C4C6DA1F@crunch-recording.com> Message-ID: On 8/16/05 10:55 PM, "Justin Drury" wrote: >> The main news is: >> >> we have port Valentina engine to MAC INTEL and xCode 2.1 > > Well that is GREAT news. When do we get to see the results of you > fella's hard work? Its gotten to the point where I keep checking > http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/2005-August/ every > few hours > instead of waiting for the digest to come in!!!(Just in case a C++ > announcement gets posted) > > All you REALbasic developers have had the joy of vers 2 long enough! > Time to share! Hi Justin, I agree. I think we will be able upload something about this weekend - next Monday. To make public c++ beta, we need yet polish out some our headers... Then we need make some build scripts to build archives... Annoying work as you know ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Tue Aug 16 20:59:34 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Tue Aug 16 21:00:02 2005 Subject: RB 2.05 fc9 -39 Error In-Reply-To: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <0BA82CA2-250E-4BAA-A386-7B3053DE4D9D@everestkc.net> > the Compact command. > > On fresh db made with fc10 ? > > Db is encrypted or no ? Never mind. My tester had a mixed environment. We just started putting VComponents in the application's folder but we had an older version in the CFM Support directory. Once he removed the CFM Support files everything worked just fine. Sorry for the false alarm. Regards, Bob K. From bkeeney at everestkc.net Wed Aug 17 16:15:19 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Wed Aug 17 16:15:48 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050815125119.7614536B63A@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <945C01EF-D7F8-482C-BE49-DF541F115415@everestkc.net> According to the documentation, if the VComponents are placed in the same directory as the application, Valentina libraries will load and be happy. Based on our own testing, this is not true. VComponents MUST be in the CFM Support folder. Have submitted bug report on this. Thanks, Bob Keeney From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 18 08:50:47 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 18 00:51:20 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: <945C01EF-D7F8-482C-BE49-DF541F115415@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/18/05 12:15 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: Hi Bob, > According to the documentation, if the VComponents are placed in the > same directory as the application, Valentina libraries will load and > be happy. > > Based on our own testing, this is not true. VComponents MUST be in > the CFM Support folder. Have submitted bug report on this. I think you have move the whole VComponents folder into AppFolder AppFolder VComponents This is wrong. Docs says that you need move FILES of VComponents folder AppFolder icu.dlls vkernel.dll ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 18 09:59:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 18 01:59:46 2005 Subject: V4RB/V4MD - App as package DO WORK Message-ID: Hi All, Many times was question: if we can build with e.g. V4RB the package-application. Answer is yes, at least with carbon build. MyApp contents MacOS myapp vkenel.dll icu.dlls vresources vclient ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Aug 18 07:47:02 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Aug 18 07:47:33 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: <20050818055122.241E036F45E@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050818055122.241E036F45E@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <1E461219-E067-4837-9E9E-D5E89839A96F@everestkc.net> > > >> According to the documentation, if the VComponents are placed in the >> same directory as the application, Valentina libraries will load and >> be happy. >> >> Based on our own testing, this is not true. VComponents MUST be in >> the CFM Support folder. Have submitted bug report on this. >> > > I think you have move the whole VComponents folder into AppFolder > > AppFolder > VComponents > > This is wrong. > > Docs says that you need move FILES of VComponents folder > > AppFolder > icu.dlls > vkernel.dll Nope. Only the VComponent files are in the AppFolder. Bob K. From ayu8 at cdc.gov Thu Aug 18 09:06:50 2005 From: ayu8 at cdc.gov (Sims, John) Date: Thu Aug 18 08:07:23 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net > [mailto:valentina-beta-bounces@lists.macserve.net] On Behalf > Of Bob Keeney > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:47 AM > To: valentina-beta@lists.macserve.net > Subject: Re: REALbasic Deployment Question > > > > > > >> According to the documentation, if the VComponents are > placed in the > >> same directory as the application, Valentina libraries > will load and > >> be happy. > >> > >> Based on our own testing, this is not true. VComponents > MUST be in > >> the CFM Support folder. Have submitted bug report on this. > >> > > > > I think you have move the whole VComponents folder into AppFolder > > > > AppFolder > > VComponents > > > > This is wrong. > > > > Docs says that you need move FILES of VComponents folder > > > > AppFolder > > icu.dlls > > vkernel.dll > > > Nope. Only the VComponent files are in the AppFolder. > > Bob K. Hi Bob, Just to clarify, are you talking about for development or for deployment. For development, I believe the Vcomponents files need to be in the CFM Support folder (Ruslan, please correct me if I am wrong). When deploying your application, you should be able to place the files in the same folder as the application/executable. Take care, -John From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 18 18:31:27 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Thu Aug 18 10:31:56 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/18/05 4:06 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: >>> Docs says that you need move FILES of VComponents folder >>> >>> AppFolder >>> icu.dlls >>> vkernel.dll >> >> >> Nope. Only the VComponent files are in the AppFolder. >> >> Bob K. > > > Hi Bob, > > Just to clarify, are you talking about for development or for > deployment. For development, I believe the Vcomponents files need to be > in the CFM Support folder (Ruslan, please correct me if I am wrong). right > When deploying your application, you should be able to place the files > in the same folder as the application/executable. Right, Bob, for example Jon (jda) ship own application in this way already 6 months. So check all once again. Should work Although may be something was broken in latest betas ... You use fc10? Mac? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Aug 18 16:13:24 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Aug 18 16:13:53 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: <20050818055122.241E036F45E@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050818055122.241E036F45E@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <5B8EAEDE-477F-45F7-BAF9-7A556A47110F@everestkc.net> > > On 8/18/05 4:06 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> >> Just to clarify, are you talking about for development or for >> deployment. For development, I believe the Vcomponents files need to be >> in the CFM Support folder (Ruslan, please correct me if I am wrong). > > >> right > > > > When deploying your application, you should be able to place the files > > in the same folder as the application/executable. > > > > Right, > > >Bob, for example Jon (jda) ship own application in this way already 6 >months. > >So check all once again. Should work >Although may be something was broken in latest betas ... > >You use fc10? Mac? Yes, we're using fc10 for REALbasic 2005 r2 Macintosh. Could the problem be that we are compiling as Mac OS X only and not as a Mac OS X/Classic? We've tried this on our test machines (as in no VComponents in CFM Support folder) and Valentina won't load. Bob K. From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Aug 18 17:31:37 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Aug 18 16:32:03 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] another VLink problem Message-ID: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> I'm finding that assigning to VLink.OnDelete results in a silent crash of the current beta of V4Rb2. Here's my example code in case you'd like to crash something. Valentina.Init 16*1024*1024, "", "" dim dlg as new SaveAsDialog dlg.PromptText = "Choose a location for the new database file." dlg.SuggestedFileName = "VLinkTestDB" If dlg.ShowModal <> Nil Then dim db as new VDatabase db.Create dlg.Result dim table1 as VTable = db.CreateTable("Table1") dim table2 as VTable = db.CreateTable("Table2") db.Flush dim newLink as VBinaryLink = db.CreateBinaryLink("TestLink", table1, table2, EVLinkType.kMany, EVLinkType.kMany) newLink.Owner = table1 newLink.OnDelete = EVOnDelete.kCascade newLink.Flush newLink = nil table1 = nil table2 = nil db.Close db = nil End if Valentina.ShutDown -------------- Charles Yeomans From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 19 00:41:23 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Thu Aug 18 16:41:48 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] another VLink problem In-Reply-To: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> References: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> Message-ID: <43050083.3050903@public.kherson.ua> Hello, Charles Yeomans wrote: > I'm finding that assigning to VLink.OnDelete results in a silent crash > of the current beta of V4Rb2. Here's my example code in case you'd like > to crash something. Here is just an exception thrown. BinaryLink with M::M relationship refuces Cascade behavior. -- Best regards, Ivan Smahin From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Aug 18 18:20:36 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Aug 18 17:21:06 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] another VLink problem In-Reply-To: <43050083.3050903@public.kherson.ua> References: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> <43050083.3050903@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <3c709ac0ef0e7e8b0d94cd7ced539512@desuetude.com> On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > Hello, > > Charles Yeomans wrote: >> I'm finding that assigning to VLink.OnDelete results in a silent >> crash of the current beta of V4Rb2. Here's my example code in case >> you'd like to crash something. > > Here is just an exception thrown. > BinaryLink with M::M relationship refuces Cascade behavior. Of course it does; what was I thinking? Nevertheless, the result of my idiocy was not a VException, but a crash. -------------- Charles Yeomans From IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 19 01:38:55 2005 From: IvanSmahin at public.kherson.ua (Ivan Smahin) Date: Thu Aug 18 17:39:18 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] another VLink problem In-Reply-To: <3c709ac0ef0e7e8b0d94cd7ced539512@desuetude.com> References: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> <43050083.3050903@public.kherson.ua> <3c709ac0ef0e7e8b0d94cd7ced539512@desuetude.com> Message-ID: <43050DFF.2060006@public.kherson.ua> Charles Yeomans wrote: > > Nevertheless, the result of my idiocy was not a VException, but a crash. > Fixed. From yeomans at desuetude.com Thu Aug 18 18:48:17 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Thu Aug 18 17:48:44 2005 Subject: [V4Rb 2] another VLink problem In-Reply-To: <43050DFF.2060006@public.kherson.ua> References: <270c4382713aa0533885d0cd994f4c09@desuetude.com> <43050083.3050903@public.kherson.ua> <3c709ac0ef0e7e8b0d94cd7ced539512@desuetude.com> <43050DFF.2060006@public.kherson.ua> Message-ID: <43800e9df457042331d228ddda04c527@desuetude.com> On Aug 18, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Ivan Smahin wrote: > > > Charles Yeomans wrote: >> Nevertheless, the result of my idiocy was not a VException, but a >> crash. > Fixed. > Thanks. -------------- Charles Yeomans From bkeeney at everestkc.net Thu Aug 18 22:37:38 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Thu Aug 18 22:38:10 2005 Subject: REALbasic Deployment Question In-Reply-To: <5B8EAEDE-477F-45F7-BAF9-7A556A47110F@everestkc.net> References: <20050818055122.241E036F45E@edison.macserve.net> <5B8EAEDE-477F-45F7-BAF9-7A556A47110F@everestkc.net> Message-ID: <9A818BB0-D7FC-4882-8104-5083B8861003@everestkc.net> On Aug 18, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Bob Keeney wrote: > > > On 8/18/05 4:06 PM, "Sims, John" wrote: > >> Hi Bob, > >> > >> Just to clarify, are you talking about for development or for > >> deployment. For development, I believe the Vcomponents files > need to be > >> in the CFM Support folder (Ruslan, please correct me if I am > wrong). > > > > >> right > > > > > > When deploying your application, you should be able to place > the files > > > in the same folder as the application/executable. > > > > > > Right, > > > > >Bob, for example Jon (jda) ship own application in this way already 6 > >months. > > > >So check all once again. Should work > >Although may be something was broken in latest betas ... > > > >You use fc10? Mac? > > Yes, we're using fc10 for REALbasic 2005 r2 Macintosh. Could the > problem be that we are compiling as Mac OS X only and not as a Mac > OS X/Classic? > > We've tried this on our test machines (as in no VComponents in CFM > Support folder) and Valentina won't load. Based on discussions in the lists, I *WAS* able to get it to run with the VComponents in the application bundle. Guess it wasn't clear from the documentation that in bundled applications what directory they were supposed to be in. Thanks! Bob K. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 19 10:00:59 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 19 02:01:34 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/19/05 3:49 AM, "Malik Djelil (AlterConcept SAS)" wrote: Hi Malik, > I am new in the development with Valentina and REALbasic. > I have tested the R4RB 2.0.4 plug-in with REALbasic 2005 R2. > > My application is a Mac OS X Mach-O bundle. > I would like to put the VComponents inside the bundle. > I have tried many locations, but it doesn't work. > > For example, I have tried : > MyApp.app/Content/VComponents/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is what we use for Vstudio and VServer > MyApp.app/Content/MacOS/VComponents/ > ... > also, i have put the VComponents content (without the folder) in: > MyApp.app/Content/MacOS/ > ... > Of course, I have read the documentation (deployment as described in the > V4RB reference 2 PDF) and I have looked into the support mail archives. 1) actually I have prove self that works only PEF APP and you put contents of VComponents folder into AppFolder 2) just only Bob have send to list this letter: > Bob says: > Based on discussions in the lists, I *WAS* able to get it to run with > the VComponents in the application bundle. Guess it wasn't clear > from the documentation that in bundled applications what directory > they were supposed to be in. So I wonder, Bob: you build Macho application (which is bundle/package) ?!?! And you have got success with this ? If yes, then, Malik, I think this is because Bob uses 2.0.5 fc10 So you also can test this beta build to see if it will work for you. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Sat Aug 20 10:25:24 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Sat Aug 20 10:26:05 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: <20050819033814.9B08C36FFC9@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050819033814.9B08C36FFC9@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <522DAA1F-91AF-4658-B4A8-86212255113A@everestkc.net> >> Bob says: >> Based on discussions in the lists, I *WAS* able to get it to run with >> the VComponents in the application bundle. Guess it wasn't clear >> from the documentation that in bundled applications what directory >> they were supposed to be in. > > >So I wonder, Bob: > > you build Macho application (which is bundle/package) ?!?! > >And you have got success with this ? > >If yes, then, Malik, I think this is because Bob uses 2.0.5 fc10 >So you also can test this beta build to see if it will work for you. Yes, I am using fc10. Here is my structure: MyApp.app/Content/MacOS/ and all of the VComponents (not the folder) are in MacOS directory of the bundle. From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 20 19:28:01 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 20 11:28:32 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: <522DAA1F-91AF-4658-B4A8-86212255113A@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/20/05 6:25 PM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >>> Bob says: >>> Based on discussions in the lists, I *WAS* able to get it to run > with >>> the VComponents in the application bundle. Guess it wasn't clear >>> from the documentation that in bundled applications what directory >>> they were supposed to be in. >> >> >> So I wonder, Bob: >> >> you build Macho application (which is bundle/package) ?!?! >> >> And you have got success with this ? >> >> If yes, then, Malik, I think this is because Bob uses 2.0.5 fc10 >> So you also can test this beta build to see if it will work for you. > > > Yes, I am using fc10. Here is my structure: > > MyApp.app/Content/MacOS/ > > and all of the VComponents (not the folder) are in MacOS directory of > the bundle. Hi Bob, Very strange...and you use MACHO build ??? For other developers this do not work... Hmm, may be you have not remove VComponents folder from CFVSupport ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 14:05:14 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 06:05:48 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN Message-ID: Hi All, fc11 - is big update, so we update ALL products that everyone can test. Revolution archives will be uploaded in 1-2 hours. * This update finalize ENCRYPTION. - you get 6 new examples on encryption and structure encryption. - you get in class Vdatabase 2 new properties: IsEncrypted IsStructureEncrypted - you get in class Vdatabase 5 new methods: Encrypt(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) Decrypt(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) ChangeEncryptionKey( inOldKey as String, inNewKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) UseEncryptionKey(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly.) RequiresEncryptionKey() - And you get similar 5 methods in the class VTAble and Vfield, but without the last parameter inForData. - parameter inforData on default encrypt only DATA RECORDS. If you want encrypt structure you can specify kStructureOnly. You can even specify kStructureAndRecords, then both will be encrypted by the same password. NOTE: as you see, comparing to v1 we have deprecate set of methods to work with structure encryption. Instead we have now optional parameter in the methods of Vdatabase class. -------------------------------------- FIXED BUGS: * Bob, encryption for project with Classes now must work. * Vserver - Igor have fix 4-5 bugs related to open and connect to databases under server. Charles, now you query not crash server. * Frank, your reported bugs are fixed related to db.CollationAttribute and CONTAINS in SQL searches. * Dan, we hope that now Vserver will work in your project also. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 15:51:22 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 07:51:54 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4REV mac 2.0.5fc11 Message-ID: Hi All, You can download fc11 build of Valentina for Revolution. http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta If anybody needs V4REV WIN let me know -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Sun Aug 21 17:41:03 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Aug 21 08:41:38 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8F942B4B-8979-4909-A8A8-1B454013D493@wanadoo.fr> Le 21 ao?t 05 ? 15:05, Ruslan Zasukhin a ?crit : > Hi All, > > fc11 - is big update, so we update ALL products that everyone can > test. Hi Ruslan, In the archives [V4RB] that I have just downloaded, the size of the plugin is 0 Kb ! Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050821/265f5484/attachment.html From ktekinay at mactechnologies.com Sun Aug 21 09:51:53 2005 From: ktekinay at mactechnologies.com (Kem Tekinay) Date: Sun Aug 21 08:52:25 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: <8F942B4B-8979-4909-A8A8-1B454013D493@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 8/21/05 9:41 AM, Thierry Nauze at ohmitou@wanadoo.fr wrote: > In the archives [V4RB] that I have just downloaded, the size of? the?plugin? > is 0 Kb ! Same here. This is for the Mac. __________________________________________________________________________ Kem Tekinay (212) 201-1465 MacTechnologies Consulting Fax (914) 242-7294 545 Eighth Avenue, Suite 401 Pager (917) 491-5546 New York, New York 10018 http://www.mactechnologies.com To join the MacTechnologies Consulting mailing list, send an e-mail to: mactechnologies_consulting-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 16:57:07 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 08:57:53 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/21/05 4:51 PM, "Kem Tekinay" wrote: >> In the archives [V4RB] that I have just downloaded, the size of? the?plugin? >> is 0 Kb ! > > Same here. This is for the Mac. I am checking this problem. One moment -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 17:28:10 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 09:28:42 2005 Subject: FIXED: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD -- mac archives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/21/05 4:51 PM, "Kem Tekinay" wrote: > On 8/21/05 9:41 AM, Thierry Nauze at ohmitou@wanadoo.fr wrote: > >> In the archives [V4RB] that I have just downloaded, the size of? the?plugin? >> is 0 Kb ! > > Same here. This is for the Mac. Archives are fixed. Problem was that I have switch to Tiger's PAckageMaker, And on default it ignores MAC resources. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Sun Aug 21 11:46:41 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sun Aug 21 10:47:15 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99366dbfae748159439f6fc7f64b5276@desuetude.com> REALbasic (2005 or 5.5) does not load the V4Rb plugin. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 18:53:21 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 10:53:52 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: <99366dbfae748159439f6fc7f64b5276@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/21/05 6:46 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > REALbasic (2005 or 5.5) does not load the V4Rb plugin. Yes I see this guys also now. Sorry. I have switch production computer to CW 9.6 and Tiger, And now unexplained problems ... I search where they come from... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Sun Aug 21 19:55:37 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Aug 21 10:56:14 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: <99366dbfae748159439f6fc7f64b5276@desuetude.com> References: <99366dbfae748159439f6fc7f64b5276@desuetude.com> Message-ID: Le 21 ao?t 05 ? 19:46, Charles Yeomans a ?crit : > REALbasic (2005 or 5.5) does not load the V4Rb plugin. > > -------------- > Charles Yeomans Same problem -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 22:36:10 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 14:36:43 2005 Subject: Okay, now it seems to work. V4RB and V4MD mac Message-ID: Hi All, This was bad moon probably. I have rebuild absolutely everything using CW 9.6 And now REALbasic and Director do see plugins. Probably was some mess between versions of CodeWarrior. Please download V4RB and V4MD mac archives of fc11 again. Let me know how it works now. Anybody have test already Vserver MAC fc11? Revolution? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 22:54:43 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 14:55:17 2005 Subject: Ops, another glitch with archives ... Big icons. Message-ID: Frank, now I see what you mean! .dmg after mounting show 3 package in wrong place and very big icons. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 21 23:10:56 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 15:11:29 2005 Subject: FIXED: Ops, another glitch with archives ... Big icons. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/21/05 10:54 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > > Frank, now I see what you mean! > > .dmg after mounting show 3 package in wrong place and very big icons. > -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Sun Aug 21 15:35:48 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Sun Aug 21 16:36:28 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI everyone, The archives are fixed now - at least for V4RB. If you tried to download fc11 before this email, then please try again! Best regards, Frank Schima From bkeeney at everestkc.net Sun Aug 21 16:42:39 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Sun Aug 21 16:43:18 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: <20050821154716.14D70371DCB@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050821154716.14D70371DCB@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <0904181D-CB8C-4C07-81E9-277580110A87@everestkc.net> >> >> >> Yes, I am using fc10. Here is my structure: >> >> MyApp.app/Content/MacOS/ >> >> and all of the VComponents (not the folder) are in MacOS directory of >> the bundle. >> > > Hi Bob, > > Very strange...and you use MACHO build ??? > > For other developers this do not work... > Hmm, may be you have not remove VComponents folder from CFVSupport ? I'm am absolutely positive that I've gotten it to work in a bundled MachO build. My only-one-file build has been tested on multiple machines that have never seen Valentina before. Makes for one huge file but it's a simpler solution than having the components in the same folder as the app (which doesn't work in MACHO builds anyway). Cheers, Bob From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 22 00:48:05 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 21 16:48:39 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: <0904181D-CB8C-4C07-81E9-277580110A87@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/22/05 12:42 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> >> Very strange...and you use MACHO build ??? >> >> For other developers this do not work... >> Hmm, may be you have not remove VComponents folder from CFVSupport ? > > I'm am absolutely positive that I've gotten it to work in a bundled > MachO build. My only-one-file build has been tested on multiple > machines that have never seen Valentina before. > > Makes for one huge file but it's a simpler solution than having the > components in the same folder as the app (which doesn't work in MACHO > builds anyway). Interesting! Why only you have got success Okay, in the nearest couple of days I will also try do this -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Mon Aug 22 06:53:52 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Sun Aug 21 21:54:28 2005 Subject: [FIXED ? ] V4RB 2.0.5fc11 for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 01:35, Frank Schima a ?crit : > FYI everyone, > > > The archives are fixed now - at least for V4RB. If you tried to > download fc11 before this email, then please try again! While RB 2005r2 works fine with the version 2.04, the application compiled with the version 2.05 fc11 crashs in the launch. That works again by returning in the configuration 2.04 (Components and plugin) Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050822/864a08c0/attachment.html From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Sun Aug 21 21:18:09 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Sun Aug 21 22:18:48 2005 Subject: [FIXED ? ] V4RB 2.0.5fc11 for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Thierry, On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Thierry Nauze wrote: > > Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 01:35, Frank Schima a ?crit : > >> The archives are fixed now - at least for V4RB. If you tried to >> download fc11 before this email, then please try again! > > While RB 2005r2 works fine with the version 2.04, the application > compiled with the version 2.05 fc11 crashs in the launch. > That works again by returning in the configuration 2.04 (Components > and plugin) I'm using RB2005r2 also (on Mac OS X) and it works fine for me. Did you download V4RB after my email - can you try downloading it again? Ruslan had to fix it at least twice before it was working properly. Best regards, Frank Schima From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Mon Aug 22 20:29:29 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Mon Aug 22 11:30:07 2005 Subject: [FIXED ? ] V4RB 2.0.5fc11 for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 07:18, Frank Schima a ?crit : > Hi Thierry, > > On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Thierry Nauze wrote: > > >> >> Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 01:35, Frank Schima a ?crit : >> >> >>> The archives are fixed now - at least for V4RB. If you tried to >>> download fc11 before this email, then please try again! >>> >> >> While RB 2005r2 works fine with the version 2.04, the application >> compiled with the version 2.05 fc11 crashs in the launch. >> That works again by returning in the configuration 2.04 >> (Components and plugin) >> > > I'm using RB2005r2 also (on Mac OS X) and it works fine for me. Did > you download V4RB after my email - can you try downloading it > again? Ruslan had to fix it at least twice before it was working > properly. Hi Franck New downloading: the same test and the same result. It's not simportant because that works fine with the version 2.04 My configuration : MAC 2 x 2 MHz, RAM 1.5 Go, MacOSX 10.4.2 and RB 2005r2 Best regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050822/8e629798/attachment-0001.html From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Aug 22 12:54:52 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Mon Aug 22 11:55:27 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, Vserver 2.0.5fc11 for MAC + WIN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > fc11 - is big update, so we update ALL products that everyone can test. > Revolution archives will be uploaded in 1-2 hours. > > > * This update finalize ENCRYPTION. > > - you get 6 new examples on encryption and structure encryption. > > - you get in class Vdatabase 2 new properties: > > IsEncrypted > IsStructureEncrypted > > - you get in class Vdatabase 5 new methods: > > Encrypt(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) > Decrypt(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) > ChangeEncryptionKey( > inOldKey as String, > inNewKey as String, inForData as Integer = kRecordsOnly) > > UseEncryptionKey(inKey as String, inForData as Integer = > kRecordsOnly.) > RequiresEncryptionKey() > > > - And you get similar 5 methods in the class VTAble and Vfield, > but without the last parameter inForData. > > - parameter inforData on default encrypt only DATA RECORDS. > If you want encrypt structure you can specify kStructureOnly. > > You can even specify kStructureAndRecords, > then both will be encrypted by the same password. > > > NOTE: as you see, comparing to v1 we have deprecate set of methods to > work > with structure encryption. Instead we have now optional parameter in > the > methods of Vdatabase class. > > -------------------------------------- > FIXED BUGS: > > * Bob, encryption for project with Classes now must work. > > * Vserver - Igor have fix 4-5 bugs related to open and connect to > databases > under server. > > Charles, now you query not crash server. It looks like my query still crashes VServer. V4Rb raises a VException with error ERR_STREAM_READ_ERROR, and VServer says "bus error" and quits. -------------- Charles Yeomans From Claudius at sailer-online.de Mon Aug 22 20:05:29 2005 From: Claudius at sailer-online.de (Claudius Sailer) Date: Mon Aug 22 13:06:08 2005 Subject: V4RB 2.0.5fc11 for MAC --> crashing Message-ID: <84EE6A2C-B759-4DCA-9612-5C655142FEA8@sailer-online.de> Hello, did I missed something? My application, running with 2.0.4 without problems, now running in Debug with 2.0.5fc11 crashes after start without error message :-(( I reinstalled very fast 2.0.4 and everything is fine again. I have extremely less time, so I didn't made logfile, but I thought I should give feedback. I will test later Beta or final when I will have more time. bye Claudius -- G4/733 QS / MacOS X 10.4de / RB 5.5.5/ Valentina 1.10.0 & 2.0.4 Homepage http://www.ClaSai.de iChat ryhoruk RealBasic ListBoxes: [ I feel the need...the need for speed!!! ] From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Aug 22 14:09:12 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Mon Aug 22 13:09:48 2005 Subject: [FIXED ? ] V4RB 2.0.5fc11 for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Thierry Nauze wrote: > > Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 07:18, Frank Schima a ?crit : > >> Hi Thierry, >> >> On Aug 21, 2005, at 8:53 PM, Thierry Nauze wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 01:35, Frank Schima a ?crit : >>> >>> >>>> The archives are fixed now - at least for V4RB. If you tried to >>>> download fc11 before this email, then please try again! >>>> >>> >>> While RB 2005r2 works fine with the version 2.04, the application >>> compiled with the version 2.05 fc11 crashs in the launch. >>> That works again by returning in the configuration 2.04 (Components >>> and plugin) >>> >> >> I'm using RB2005r2 also (on Mac OS X) and it works fine for me. Did >> you download V4RB after my email - can you try downloading it again? >> Ruslan had to fix it at least twice before it was working properly. > Hi Franck > > New downloading: the same test and the same result. > > It's not simportant because that works fine with the version 2.04 > > My configuration : MAC 2 x 2 MHz, RAM 1.5 Go,? MacOSX 10.4.2 and RB > 2005r2 I am able to use 2.0.5 fc11 with Rb 2005 v2; my crashes occur at runtime. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 22 21:17:42 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 22 13:18:18 2005 Subject: fc11 reports Message-ID: Hi Guys, Well, we again will test everything here. * Damon, your problem fixed. So next build RBDB will work, * all rest are strange. - Charles, your query did NOT crash on Mac and Win server. may be you can send me again your db + some simple project which connect to server and do query ? - Thierry, so I need take ANY our example. Build app? PEF ? and try to run it? VComponents in the CFVSupport still ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 22 22:48:24 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 22 14:48:59 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and V4MD mac 2.0.5 fc12 Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta We have found and fix one crash. This bug have affect * Bob's project with encryption * Damon's RBDB crash on Windows. So may be the same bug could affect others. Crash did happens when RAM tmp table is used. I also will build and upload now win versions, And Valentina servers ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 22 23:24:28 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 22 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [ANN] Vservers mac 2.0.5 fc12 uploaded Message-ID: http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 23 00:26:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 22 16:27:27 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4MD and V4RB win fc12 uploaded Message-ID: -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 23 00:42:57 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 22 16:43:32 2005 Subject: Updates to RB V2.05fc12 In-Reply-To: <001401c5a761$faf8e8d0$ae00a8c0@DamonsPC> Message-ID: On 8/23/05 12:39 AM, "Damon Pillinger" wrote: > Serge, > > Once again great job, 100's times faster (opening from IDE and viewing > data). :-) wow. I believe that Sergey have not yet implement another idea, Which must cause exactly 100% speed up for RBDB .. So, please stand by ... :-) > Many many thanks > > Is there anything else new in this fc that we should know about? We are finishing adding of encryption now -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Aug 22 17:27:18 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Aug 22 17:28:45 2005 Subject: [V4RB] Mac OS X .app bundle In-Reply-To: <20050822163011.90BB73729A5@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050822163011.90BB73729A5@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <2F306E74-1ECC-4E89-AC2C-E653D28C743F@everestkc.net> On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:30 AM, valentina-beta- request@lists.macserve.net wrote: >>> Hi Bob, >>> >>> Very strange...and you use MACHO build ??? >>> >>> For other developers this do not work... >>> Hmm, may be you have not remove VComponents folder from CFVSupport ? >>> >> >> I'm am absolutely positive that I've gotten it to work in a bundled >> MachO build. My only-one-file build has been tested on multiple >> machines that have never seen Valentina before. >> >> Makes for one huge file but it's a simpler solution than having the >> components in the same folder as the app (which doesn't work in MACHO >> builds anyway). >> > > Interesting! > > Why only you have got success > > Okay, in the nearest couple of days I will also try do this Surprisingly enough, it works on my test machine and on two of my clients test machines. But on another testers machine it didn't. Worked fine after we put the VComponents in the CFM Support folder. I have not tested with fc12 yet. I don't know the specifics of any of the machines except mine (iBook G4 running Panther). Let me know if you want me to track down specifics of the machines it did/didn't work on. Bob K. From ohmitou at wanadoo.fr Tue Aug 23 06:51:20 2005 From: ohmitou at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Nauze) Date: Mon Aug 22 21:51:59 2005 Subject: fc11 reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77DA6E26-3134-4A1A-9107-8C94763A56F8@wanadoo.fr> Le 22 ao?t 05 ? 22:17, Ruslan Zasukhin a ?crit : > Hi Guys, > > Well, we again will test everything here. > > * Damon, your problem fixed. So next build RBDB will work, > > * all rest are strange. > > - Charles, your query did NOT crash on Mac and Win server. > > may be you can send me again your db + some simple project > which connect to server and do query ? > > - Thierry, so I need take ANY our example. > Build app? PEF ? > > and try to run it? > VComponents in the CFVSupport still ? Thanks Ruslan, The version fc12 seems to fix this problem. Regards, -- Thierry NAUZE Saint-Denis de la R?union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050823/0f302411/attachment-0001.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 23 09:04:46 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Tue Aug 23 01:05:33 2005 Subject: Run Time error on Mac In-Reply-To: <29943067.1124757353471.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 8/23/05 3:35 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: Hi Anna, Great! So as I have told it is important to use on both platforms the same version builds. > Hi! > > I just wanted to let you know that I built my app (using fc12) on Windows for > OS X and it ran on the Mac - yippee! Tomorrow I will try encryption... > > Anna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruslan Zasukhin > Sent: Aug 17, 2005 12:56 AM > To: Anna Kritselis > Subject: Re: Run Time error on Mac > > On 8/17/05 4:17 AM, "Anna Kritselis" wrote: > >> When I run Table_Create (which was built on Windows) on the Mac - it crashes. >> You asked if I was able to get Table_Create to compile/run on the Mac so I >> downloaded RB, V4RB for the Mac and it did run on the Mac. >> >> So I thought I'd try the opposite - >> >> I compiled Table_Create on the Mac, then built it as a Windows application. >> On my Windows machine, I created a subdirectory called "MyApp" and copied the >> executable(AppName.exe) and the contents of the VComponents_Win_CW folder >> into >> it. When I ran the program - it launched okay, but when I clicked "Make New >> Instance" the program crashed on my Windows machine. > > I see. > > I think I see where problem can be. > > It is VERY IMPORTANT to use on both platforms THE SAME build version. > > So please wait for our next fc11 or fc12, when we will make build of V4RB > for both platforms. Then we will try again this issue. > -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Tue Aug 23 17:40:14 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Tue Aug 23 17:40:54 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and V4MD mac 2.0.5 fc12 In-Reply-To: <20050823025204.09ECA372EB1@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050823025204.09ECA372EB1@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <9088ABE7-7748-4236-A054-7DE1C2C3961A@everestkc.net> > > Hi All, > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > We have found and fix one crash. > > This bug have affect > * Bob's project with encryption > * Damon's RBDB crash on Windows. > > So may be the same bug could affect others. > Crash did happens when RAM tmp table is used. > > I also will build and upload now win versions, > And Valentina servers ... > Encryption on data file seems to be working great. We haven't experienced any surprises in fc12. I've reported an issue with VServer fc12 which is probably related to using db as class-way. Keep up the great work! Bob Keeney From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 24 09:14:48 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 24 01:15:27 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and V4MD mac 2.0.5 fc12 In-Reply-To: <9088ABE7-7748-4236-A054-7DE1C2C3961A@everestkc.net> Message-ID: On 8/24/05 1:40 AM, "Bob Keeney" wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >> >> We have found and fix one crash. >> >> This bug have affect >> * Bob's project with encryption >> * Damon's RBDB crash on Windows. >> >> So may be the same bug could affect others. >> Crash did happens when RAM tmp table is used. >> >> I also will build and upload now win versions, >> And Valentina servers ... >> > > Encryption on data file seems to be working great. We haven't > experienced any surprises in fc12. We have found yesterday one bug in encryption code, when you move db files between mac - windows. FIXED. > I've reported an issue with VServer fc12 which is probably related to > using db as class-way. > > Keep up the great work! Thank you Bob. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From miescher at bizdata.com Wed Aug 24 23:42:24 2005 From: miescher at bizdata.com (John W. Miescher) Date: Wed Aug 24 16:43:03 2005 Subject: V4RB-WIN fc12 Message-ID: <000001c5a8f4$b7dd56f0$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Hi Ruslan, Have downloaded and installed V4RB-WIN beta 2.0.5fc12. IT CRASHED INSTANTLY Trying to read cursor per your example 'doinits' at for i = 1 to kFldCount vBox.heading(i) = mCursor.Field(i).name RB crashes instantly at the first iteration of the for loop without warning and without leaving an error message in the V4RB_log.txt file. WHY? Luckily I kept a copy of fc5 which works fine. What is new and improved anyhow in fc12? rgs, john m. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050824/f2d9169a/attachment.html From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Thu Aug 25 01:49:15 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 24 17:49:57 2005 Subject: V4RB-WIN fc12 In-Reply-To: <000001c5a8f4$b7dd56f0$0201a8c0@JOHNHP> Message-ID: On 8/25/05 12:42 AM, "John W. Miescher" wrote: Hi John, > Hi Ruslan, > Have downloaded and installed V4RB-WIN beta 2.0.5fc12. > > IT CRASHED INSTANTLY Strange. For most people it works, > Trying to read cursor per your example 'doinits' at > > for i = 1 to kFldCount > vBox.heading(i) = mCursor.Field(i).name I have not catch. Which our example do crashes ? > RB crashes instantly at the first iteration of the for loop without warning > and without leaving an error message in the V4RB_log.txt file. > > WHY? > > Luckily I kept a copy of fc5 which works fine. What is new and improved anyhow > in fc12? Encryption Again, you can see all progress in our but trucker - Matnis http://paradigma.ukrcom.kherson.ua/bt/ -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Fri Aug 26 23:13:46 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 26 15:13:51 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, Servers 2.05fc13 and Vstudio b13 for MAC Message-ID: Hi All, You can download new V4RB and Vservers. * this build fix bug report by Charles in server. * one bug in encryption related to cross-platform move. Vstudio b13. A lots of small and not very small improvements. Now much more properties are show in the Inspector. - 0001037: [Dialogs] Create new ObjectPtr field dialog. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001034: [Property Inspector] If link has no owner Cascade behavior must be unavailable. (Ivan Smahin) - 0000921: [Feature] multitable selection (Khohlov Vadim) - 0001014: [Other] No way to view/change current Collation.Strength Setting (Ivan Smahin) - 0001032: [Dialogs] Prefs dialog resize removed. (Ivan Smahin) - 0000310: [Table Browser] Table Browsers for 2.0 should depend on I_Link interface (Jochen Peters) - 0000979: [VServer connection] VStudio hangs when I attempt to connect to a remote database (Igor Gomon) - 0001030: [Links] Create BinaryLink dialog - LinkOwner could be empty. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001029: [Links] Create BinaryLink dialog and 1:M type. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001028: [Structure Browser] No fields are shown. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001025: [Dialogs] CreateBinaryLink dialog crashes if set M to M link. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001026: [Property Inspector] IndexCount property for empty database show not zero. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001020: [Property Inspector] Table, Links, Fields -- should show ID (Ivan Smahin) - 0001019: [Property Inspector] DateTime format show date format with correct date separator. (Ivan Smahin) - 0001021: [Dialogs] Confirmation dialog on exit is redundant. (Ivan Smahin) - Also Vadim implement preferences to be an XML file. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.macserve.net/pipermail/valentina-beta/attachments/20050826/09d03367/attachment.html From yeomans at desuetude.com Fri Aug 26 17:23:13 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Fri Aug 26 16:27:24 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, Servers 2.05fc13 and Vstudio b13 for MAC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 26, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > You can download new V4RB and Vservers. Links for V4Rb need to be updated. > > * this build fix bug report by Charles in server. > > Yay. Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 27 00:30:37 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 26 16:30:44 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, Servers 2.05fc13 and Vstudio b13 for MAC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/05 12:23 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> * this build fix bug report by Charles in server. >> >> > Yay. Btw, we was not able reproduce you report on Vdatabase.GetLink() So if problem still here please give us simple project -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 27 00:32:08 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 26 16:32:21 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, Servers 2.05fc13 and Vstudio b13 for MAC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/05 12:23 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > > On Aug 26, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> You can download new V4RB and Vservers. > > Links for V4Rb need to be updated. FIXED -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Fri Aug 26 19:39:46 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Fri Aug 26 18:42:20 2005 Subject: VStudio still cannot connect to VServer Message-ID: WIth the current MacOS build of VServer, I still can't connect to a VServer running on the same machine. This was reported as fixed in . -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 27 02:46:51 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 26 18:46:55 2005 Subject: VStudio still cannot connect to VServer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/05 2:39 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > WIth the current MacOS build of VServer, I still can't connect to a > VServer running on the same machine. This was reported as fixed in > . Charles, But we can connect with no problems! I have Vserver with YOUR database registered. I can connect from the same mac, And from the the other Windows in the local network. And Igor have connect using vstudio to my MAC from his windows via Internet... So it MUST WORK! How you connect? in the connect dialog enter "localhost" and "sa" "sa" -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 27 02:53:03 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Fri Aug 26 18:53:07 2005 Subject: VStudio still cannot connect to VServer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/05 2:39 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > WIth the current MacOS build of VServer, I still can't connect to a > VServer running on the same machine. This was reported as fixed in > . Try next please: * stop vserver * remove from databases folder all your dbs to other place. so it will be empty. * RUN vserver * try connect. Works ? * you run vserver on OS X? Right? And client also? ----------- * If above works, then drop into folder your db you have sent me. * now in vstudio you can register "PastEfforts.vdb" * works? --------- * After register you need disconnect and again connect. * Now you must see your database in vstudio. I have see your tables, fields, I was able do SQL queries as SELECT * FROM courts. All this works for me here. And for Igor. We have test on 3 computers in all combinations, mac and win. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Sat Aug 27 12:57:50 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Sat Aug 27 12:00:25 2005 Subject: VStudio still cannot connect to VServer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <187ef7f445c7a57106bf08cf2170324c@desuetude.com> On Aug 26, 2005, at 7:53 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/27/05 2:39 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> WIth the current MacOS build of VServer, I still can't connect to a >> VServer running on the same machine. This was reported as fixed in >> . > > Try next please: > > * stop vserver > > * remove from databases folder all your dbs to other place. > so it will be empty. > > * RUN vserver > > * try connect. Works ? Works. > > * you run vserver on OS X? Right? And client also? Yes. Both on same machine running 10.3.9. > > > ----------- > * If above works, then drop into folder your db you have sent me. > > * now in vstudio you can register "PastEfforts.vdb" > > * works? Works. > > --------- > * After register you need disconnect and again connect. Hangs. Upon reconnect, here is the console output. Sat Aug 27 2005 12:49:48.040396 VServer_Office (2.0.5, Protocol 2.0, Kernel 2.0.5) Maximum number of connections: 5 12:49:48.123160 (2684400292): Database engine inited 12:49:48.201083 (2684400292): Server started at 15432 port 12:50:19.075013 (41979904): Connection established with 'localhost:54344' (14) 12:50:19.087994 (41981952): (14) Database: ; User: sa: OK 12:50:19.305099 (41981952): (14) Database: PastEfforts; User: sa: OK -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sat Aug 27 20:56:45 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sat Aug 27 12:56:47 2005 Subject: VStudio still cannot connect to VServer In-Reply-To: <25b0daf311d1d53532ec7f5f4d67fc58@declareSub.com> Message-ID: On 8/27/05 8:18 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> * After register you need disconnect and again connect. >> >> >> Hangs. Upon reconnect, here is the console output. Yes Charles, We have reproduce using release build. And we have found reason -- CVS did not bring to production computer one file with changes from Igor. We have rebuild at morning, and now we can again open your db. Also we have fix your SECOND crash. Also we have fix another 2 issues related to Vstudio + vserver. And still continue. I try implement that after Register of db it is shown in list of dbs. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 28 22:44:41 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 28 14:44:45 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac Message-ID: Hi All, http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta * Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 * Charles, we have fix second crash you have found in vserver. please try fc14 Note, we not upload Vstudio because Ivan have redesign dialog "CreateField". It works perfect on Windows, but on Mac some edit fields glitches. I think Monday Jochen will try fix this problem, then we upload Vstudio also. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Sun Aug 28 23:01:46 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Sun Aug 28 15:01:49 2005 Subject: External Design Message-ID: Hi Trevor, Ops, I only now have to note this your text. > External Design > > Though the following suggestion isn't critical it would make the Valentina > external feel more natural to Transcript programmers. > > It appears that all Valentina external calls are implemented as functions > (XFUNCTION in the Xternal XTable definition). Ideally some of the handlers in > the external would be defined as commands (XCOMMAND in the Xternal XTable > definition). For example, Valentina_DebugLevel is currently used like this: > > get Valentina_DebugLevel("kLogParams") > > when the Transcript way to do this would be: > > Valentina_DebugLevel "kLogParams" > > The handler doesn't return any data and you are "commanding" the external to > do something. If the command could generate errors then the developer could > check the result(). result() contains whatever the command returns from the > external. Right now the handler returns an integer when it really doesn't > need to return anything. > > Other handlers which might fall into this category include > Valentina_FlushEachLog, Valentina_Init (and _InitClient), Valentina_ShutDown, > etc. > > If this change is made you can visually distinguish the two in the > documentation by including "(", ")" for functions but not for commands. For > example, the docs currently say: > > Valentina_DebugLevel([inLevel]) > > If this were changed to a command it would be documented as: > > Valentina_DebugLevel [inLevel] > > and under the description of the handler you would write > > Valentina_DebugLevel([inLevel]) > Command > Returns: integer (this really should return empty, shouldn't it?) Well, I will check docs again. In fact e.g. DebugLevel works as property: // get Valentina_DebugLevel( inLevel ) // put Valentina_DebugLevel into VAR So if Valentina see ZERO parameters, then this function RETURNS value. ELSE it returns nothing. I think this your text is quite old, before we have update V4REV docs .. But I will check again. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Aug 29 15:37:39 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Mon Aug 29 14:40:14 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4af9ba919d1a478391560ced66f85e5e@desuetude.com> On Aug 28, 2005, at 3:44 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta > > * Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 > > * Charles, we have fix second crash you have found in vserver. > please try fc14 > So far no problems... -------------- Charles Yeomans From jda at his.com Mon Aug 29 15:43:07 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Mon Aug 29 14:43:22 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: <4af9ba919d1a478391560ced66f85e5e@desuetude.com> References: <4af9ba919d1a478391560ced66f85e5e@desuetude.com> Message-ID: >>Hi All, >> >> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >> >>* Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 This seems to have fixed most of the crashes with large dbs that users are reporting. There is one report that the crash persists, which I'm trying to track down now... Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 29 22:55:36 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 29 14:55:40 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: <4af9ba919d1a478391560ced66f85e5e@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/29/05 10:37 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >> >> * Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 >> >> * Charles, we have fix second crash you have found in vserver. >> please try fc14 >> > > So far no problems... Nock nock! :-) Igor have fix 1 or 2 bugs in vstudio more related to vsrver + vstudio. We still wait for Jochen, to fix that dialog and ship new Vstudio build. Actually for windows all works good.. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 29 22:56:57 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 29 14:57:02 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/29/05 10:43 PM, "jda" wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >>> >>> * Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 > > This seems to have fixed most of the crashes with large dbs that > users are reporting. There is one report that the crash persists, > which I'm trying to track down now... Let he do REINDEX DB. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Aug 29 15:09:54 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Aug 29 15:10:23 2005 Subject: fc14 problems. In-Reply-To: <20050826213045.79A0B375A25@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050826213045.79A0B375A25@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <7A0875E0-2F3E-4E70-AEE4-39280B350D42@everestkc.net> I've been having issues with fc14. 1. When I created a new database file I received a -38 error with no description. 2. I've been receiving a hard crash when attempting to open an existing database file. 3. On VServer I've been having all sorts of weird problems. Lot's of VExceptions that I've not experienced before. And before you ask, I'm trying to duplicate all of these in a smaller project. :-) Bob K. From bkeeney at everestkc.net Mon Aug 29 15:23:17 2005 From: bkeeney at everestkc.net (Bob Keeney) Date: Mon Aug 29 15:23:22 2005 Subject: fc14 problems In-Reply-To: <20050829195541.55A21377E54@edison.macserve.net> References: <20050829195541.55A21377E54@edison.macserve.net> Message-ID: <5B1F77F3-28EE-47ED-B720-6FEB8AF12D6D@everestkc.net> Sending VServer example project shortly. From the terminal: [Macintosh:~] bobk% /Library/VServer_Office/VServer_Office.app/ Contents/MacOS/VServer_Office 15:19:39.724994 (42018304): (14) ERROR 0x59502: File "3rd test.vdb" does not exist. VServer_Office(339,0x2810800) malloc: *** vm_allocate (size=2868158464) failed (error code=3) VServer_Office(339,0x2810800) malloc: *** error: can't allocate region VServer_Office(339,0x2810800) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug 15:19:53.194338 (42010624): (14) Unknown error! 15:19:53.194457 (42010624): (14) ERROR 0x8250D: Unknown connection error. From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Aug 29 16:39:21 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Mon Aug 29 15:41:56 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/29/05 10:37 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >>> Hi All, >>> >>> http://paradigmasoft.com/en/products/download/beta >>> >>> * Jon fixed index bug introduced in fc10 >>> >>> * Charles, we have fix second crash you have found in vserver. >>> please try fc14 >>> >> >> So far no problems... > > Nock nock! :-) Too late. I'm getting error &h6050b when doing a search using VField.FindValueAsArraySet. I also got error &h6050a from this operation. I was not able to reproduce it, but VServer logged the following message at that time. 15:54:06.863942 (41987072): (16) ERROR 0x82513: An invalid identifier was specified while processing client request. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Mon Aug 29 23:53:49 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 29 15:53:54 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/29/05 11:39 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > Too late. I'm getting error &h6050b when doing a search using > VField.FindValueAsArraySet. > I also got error &h6050a from this operation. I was not able to reproduce it, > but VServer logged the following message at that time. > > 15:54:06.863942 (41987072): (16) ERROR 0x82513: An invalid identifier > was specified while processing client request. And server have disconnect client... This means that server have got wrong object id. And stop talk. Charles, let me give one point to you and all. IF you are in rush, and need get something working ASAP, Then please use SQL way. Vdaatbase -> Vcursor -> fields. This is simple way, so it is much simpler for testing and implementation. -------- API way with Vserver is something new we try to implement... What exactly you must not do with API way + Vserver is to use this on internet. API way has very complex and reach protocol of talk. API way send many small commands between server and client. IT LOOKS that this have sense to use only on fast networks, i.e. Local networks. Working on this during last months, we have realize that the protocol we use now is not the best for such complex task. But we cannot change it right now, until we get stable release and catch a couple of weeks to change it and build new mechanism. This will not affect your code, only our internal tasks. Again, this is just to get you more info what is going on.. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Mon Aug 29 17:31:24 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Mon Aug 29 16:33:59 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80141056eb4f6dc4b1e2d275430f080b@desuetude.com> On Aug 29, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/29/05 11:39 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> Too late. I'm getting error &h6050b when doing a search using >> VField.FindValueAsArraySet. > >> I also got error &h6050a from this operation. I was not able to >> reproduce it, >> but VServer logged the following message at that time. >> >> 15:54:06.863942 (41987072): (16) ERROR 0x82513: An invalid >> identifier >> was specified while processing client request. > > And server have disconnect client... > > This means that server have got wrong object id. > And stop talk. > > > Charles, let me give one point to you and all. > > IF you are in rush, and need get something working ASAP, > Then please use SQL way. > > Vdaatbase -> Vcursor -> fields. > > This is simple way, so it is much simpler for testing and > implementation. > > > -------- > API way with Vserver is something new we try to implement... > > What exactly you must not do with API way + Vserver is to use this on > internet. > > API way has very complex and reach protocol of talk. > API way send many small commands between server and client. > > IT LOOKS that this have sense to use only on fast networks, i.e. Local > networks. > > Working on this during last months, we have realize that the protocol > we use > now is not the best for such complex task. But we cannot change it > right > now, until we get stable release and catch a couple of weeks to change > it > and build new mechanism. This will not affect your code, only our > internal > tasks. > > Again, this is just to get you more info what is going on.. Yes, this is a handy tip. My other code using API way has been working, though. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Tue Aug 30 00:41:28 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Mon Aug 29 16:41:34 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB and VServer 2.0.5 fc14 mac In-Reply-To: <80141056eb4f6dc4b1e2d275430f080b@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/30/05 12:31 AM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> -------- >> API way with Vserver is something new we try to implement... >> >> What exactly you must not do with API way + Vserver is to use this on >> internet. >> >> API way has very complex and reach protocol of talk. API way send many small >> commands between server and client. >> >> IT LOOKS that this have sense to use only on fast networks, i.e. Local >> networks. >> >> Working on this during last months, we have realize that the protocol we use >> now is not the best for such complex task. But we cannot change it right now, >> until we get stable release and catch a couple of weeks to change it and >> build new mechanism. This will not affect your code, only our internal tasks. >> >> Again, this is just to get you more info what is going on.. > > Yes, this is a handy tip. My other code using API way has been > working, though. Look, I just try to say: we have meet unexpectable complicity in implementation of API way with client-server. Just too many objects/classes: table, fields, sets, links, index styles, collators, ... And too many methods that bring each class. Comparing to SQL way with only 3 classes, API Way is about 10 times harder and bigger. So you can have a lots of methods working, but one ops, is wrong. Igor write more and more tests to add guaranty that it works. And I think that right after 2.0.5 release Igor will start redo protocol for vserver... --- Exists such terms: thing client and FAT client. MySQL, postgre and vserver 1.x did have thing client. Vserver 2.0 have become into FAT. It seems MS and Borland also have FAT clients. May be there is sense split Valentina client in 2 things... And provide thing (SQL only) and fat clients (SQL + API + Classes) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 19:55:08 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 11:55:12 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win Message-ID: Hi All, We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. Please test fc15 build intensively. If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. P.S. Vstudio mac will be uploaded in about 30 minutes -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Wed Aug 31 14:01:18 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Aug 31 13:01:28 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi All, > >We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. > >Please test fc15 build intensively. > >If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. > >P.S. Vstudio mac will be uploaded in about 30 minutes > So far, so good. Does this mean that UTF-8 storage is finally next? :-) Jon From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 21:13:44 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 13:13:49 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/31/05 9:01 PM, "jda" wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. >> >> Please test fc15 build intensively. >> >> If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. >> >> P.S. Vstudio mac will be uploaded in about 30 minutes >> > > So far, so good. Does this mean that UTF-8 storage is finally next? :-) :-) Almost. * As I have told we plan spend next month for - more bug fixes if people will find - Vstudio improvement as much as possible - probably we will try develop new protocol for vserver. * We have practically working Valentina for PHP so in nearest days we should introduce it * and in the nearest days we will introduce C++ SDK. Besides Sergey now study Obj-C and Cocoa, to start development of Valentina 2 for Cocoa. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From jda at his.com Wed Aug 31 14:28:10 2005 From: jda at his.com (jda) Date: Wed Aug 31 13:28:18 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > >* As I have told we plan spend next month for > - more bug fixes if people will find Hi Ruslan, OK, good. In that case, please finally fix bug #522, Can't launch if boot volume has unicode char in name (OS X) I've been asking about this silly bug since March... Jon From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Aug 31 14:50:41 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Aug 31 13:53:15 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94dcd100e86778d1171d6a08a909253f@desuetude.com> On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. > > Please test fc15 build intensively. > > If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. > > P.S. Vstudio mac will be uploaded in about 30 minutes I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, but I get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X and cannot be opened." -------------- Charles Yeomans From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Aug 31 15:03:41 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:06:15 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <530d176e5764d25e449a77fbe3a61933@desuetude.com> On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > Hi All, > > We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. > > Please test fc15 build intensively. > > If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. I'm afraid I've found a problem. Some queries involving joins are returning incorrect recID values matching the cursor position. This occurs only for V4Rb client + server; the same queries performed on a local database return correct recID values. -------------- Charles Yeomans From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 22:06:14 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:06:40 2005 Subject: Vstudio -- b15 -- info Message-ID: Hi All, I want inform you, that we all here more or less have polish * dialog New Field * now you can make Primary Keys * it works with Vserver. Tested all types * dialog New Binary * now works all types of links 1:1, 1:M, M:M * it works with Vserver * Dialog New Foreign Key. * fields of menus show only fields which CAN BE used for FK, i.e. KEYS and unique fields for Target table.. ---------------------- * Property Inspector now show all 10 Local parameters for db, tables and fields. You can change them for db. --------------------- * Preferences * Now preferences are stored as XML file. before it was as Valentina db 1.x. so we have break dependency on 1.x engine. --------------------- * Schema Browser: * in the 3d column you now can select several tables. in the 4th column you then see fields of all fields of selected tables. Now you can use Search field (top right corner) to see only some fields you want. This can be very useful if you browse db with a lots of fields, Or if this is not your db and you need find something. ------------------- * Vserver * now Register/Unregister show/remove db immediately -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 22:06:44 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:06:48 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: <94dcd100e86778d1171d6a08a909253f@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. >> >> Please test fc15 build intensively. >> >> If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. >> >> P.S. Vstudio mac will be uploaded in about 30 minutes > > > I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, but I > get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X and > cannot be opened." Let me check then -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 22:12:10 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:12:13 2005 Subject: client-server, recID wrong for join In-Reply-To: <530d176e5764d25e449a77fbe3a61933@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/31/05 10:03 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We have fix practically all bug reports which we did have on hands. >> >> Please test fc15 build intensively. >> >> If will be not found major problems this will go to 2.0.5 release. > > I'm afraid I've found a problem. Some queries involving joins are > returning incorrect recID values matching the cursor position. This > occurs only for V4Rb client + server; the same queries performed on a > local database return correct recID values. Do you mean something as select A.Recid, b.RecID, * FROM A join B ... Do you see problem for server side or client side cursors ? -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 22:17:40 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:17:55 2005 Subject: Vstudio -- b15 -- info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/31/05 10:06 PM, "Ruslan Zasukhin" wrote: > Hi All, > > I want inform you, that we all here more or less have polish > > * dialog New Field > > * now you can make Primary Keys > * it works with Vserver. Tested all types > > * dialog New Binary > > * now works all types of links 1:1, 1:M, M:M > * it works with Vserver > > * Dialog New Foreign Key. > > * fields of menus show only fields which CAN BE used for FK, > i.e. KEYS and unique fields for Target table.. > > ---------------------- > * Property Inspector now show all 10 Local parameters for db, tables and > fields. You can change them for db. > > > --------------------- > * Preferences > > * Now preferences are stored as XML file. > before it was as Valentina db 1.x. > so we have break dependency on 1.x engine. > > --------------------- > * Schema Browser: > > * in the 3d column you now can select several tables. > in the 4th column you then see fields of all fields > of selected tables. > > Now you can use Search field (top right corner) to > see only some fields you want. this is similar to OS X idea of search. > This can be very useful if you browse db with a lots of fields, > Or if this is not your db and you need find something. > > > ------------------- > * Vserver > > * now Register/Unregister show/remove db immediately --------------------- * Data Navigator * Now works (not completed yet) Related Browser, you will see it only if table A has linked Table(s). wow. First time for years we can see how it works for M:M link! VAPP 1.x did not used this because Binary Link was not implemented yet. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From sunshine at public.kherson.ua Wed Aug 31 22:19:44 2005 From: sunshine at public.kherson.ua (Ruslan Zasukhin) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:19:48 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: <94dcd100e86778d1171d6a08a909253f@desuetude.com> Message-ID: On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, but I > get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X and > cannot be opened." Charles, Try now please -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Aug 31 15:35:04 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Aug 31 14:37:38 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9ce87a1e99732c181de8d6a2b0ae88ee@desuetude.com> On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, but I >> get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X and >> cannot be opened." > > Charles, > > Try now please It worked; thanks. -------------- Charles Yeomans From macsforever2000 at goodeast.com Wed Aug 31 15:17:17 2005 From: macsforever2000 at goodeast.com (Frank Schima) Date: Wed Aug 31 16:17:27 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/31/05 10:35 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> >>>> I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, >>>> but I >>>> get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS >>>> X and >>>> cannot be opened." >>>> >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> Try now please >> >> It worked; thanks. > > Charles, > > Please check version of Vstudio on your side ? > Frank says he see b12 and crash on start. It appears to crash in Tiger only. I believe Charles is still using Panther. -Frank Schima From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Aug 31 17:21:23 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Aug 31 16:23:58 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > On 8/31/05 10:35 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: > >> On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>> >>>> I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, but >>>> I >>>> get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X >>>> and >>>> cannot be opened." >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> Try now please >> >> It worked; thanks. > > Charles, > > Please check version of Vstudio on your side ? > Frank says he see b12 and crash on start. I see b12 in the Get Info window, but b15 in the about window, and no crash. It opened a local database. -------------- Charles Yeomans From yeomans at desuetude.com Wed Aug 31 17:21:52 2005 From: yeomans at desuetude.com (Charles Yeomans) Date: Wed Aug 31 16:24:03 2005 Subject: [ANN] V4RB, V4MD, V4REV, Vserver and Vstudio 2.0.5fc15 mac and win In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Aug 31, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Frank Schima wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> On 8/31/05 10:35 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >> >>> On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/31/05 9:50 PM, "Charles Yeomans" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've downloaded VStudio twice. Each time, the .dmg file mounts, >>>>> but I >>>>> get a message saying "Item "Valentina Studio" is used by Mac OS X >>>>> and >>>>> cannot be opened." >>>>> >>>> >>>> Charles, >>>> >>>> Try now please >>> >>> It worked; thanks. >> >> Charles, >> >> Please check version of Vstudio on your side ? >> Frank says he see b12 and crash on start. > > It appears to crash in Tiger only. I believe Charles is still using > Panther. Yep. -------------- Charles Yeomans